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Do people really uses 'stones'?

Lansce-IC
31-07-2006, 18:21
In my fat pride post, people kept referring to 'stones' as weight. As an unhealthy American, I use pounds but can understand kilograms... I knew of stones but I thought it was an antiquated mesurement.... am I wrong?
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 18:22
What's the fraction of a stone? A pebble?
Nadkor
31-07-2006, 18:23
Yes.

1 Stone = 14 pounds.

Pretty common in the UK for measuring a persons weight...like 11st 4lb or something like that.

More common, I would say, than kilograms or just pounds.
Liberated New Ireland
31-07-2006, 18:23
Well, I know they were used in the V for Vendetta books... Maybe it's a Brit thing.
Lansce-IC
31-07-2006, 18:24
Well, I know they were used in the V for Vendetta books... Maybe it's a Brit thing.


Yes..... perhaps.....
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 18:24
Yes.

1 Stone = 14 pounds.

Pretty common in the UK for measuring a persons weight...like 11st 4lb or something like that.

More common, I would say, than kilograms or just pounds.

I dunno...I really wanted to use pebble.
Kellarly
31-07-2006, 18:24
16 drams = 1 oz.
16 oz. = 1 lb.
14 lb. = 1 stone
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 18:25
16 drams = 1 oz.
16 oz. = 1 lb.
14 lb. = 1 stone

Now that's just silly. Should be 16 pounds. *nod*
Nadkor
31-07-2006, 18:26
Now that's just silly. Should be 16 pounds. *nod*

You actually expect imperial measurements to make sense?

Silly boy, everybody knows it's all arbitrary :p
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 18:27
Don't forget that 8st = 1cwt. Pointless conversion rates a go go!

Also, I'd always assumed the US put their weights purely in pounds because of Pinball Syndrome - the bigger the score, the better. :D
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 18:28
You actually expect imperial measurements to make sense?

Silly boy, everybody knows it's all arbitrary :p

...True...

Meh. I say we rename drams as pebbles.
Minoriteeburg
31-07-2006, 18:28
Yes.

1 Stone = 14 pounds.

Pretty common in the UK for measuring a persons weight...like 11st 4lb or something like that.

More common, I would say, than kilograms or just pounds.


why 14 pounds?

this is all news to me...
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 18:28
Now that's just silly. Should be 16 pounds. *nod*
It used to be 12.5, hence why a hundredweight is called a hundredweight.

*nod*
Psychotic Mongooses
31-07-2006, 18:28
I use stones too. Most visible number on my weighing scales in the bathroom.

Last I checked I hovered at round 11 st.

Should use metric given we've been metric for, oh, 40 odd years. Meh.
Ieuano
31-07-2006, 18:30
how many stones in an imperial tonne?
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 18:31
It used to be 12.5, hence why a hundredweight is called a hundredweight.

*nod*

Ah...that explains a lot.

...So now they're hundredandtwelveweights?
Greyenivol Colony
31-07-2006, 18:31
It is a British thing.

It's a shame we don't both do the same thing (I don't care who adopts whose method {well, I would prefer not to measure purely in pounds because its a bit silly}), because the conversion is a total bitch.
Nadkor
31-07-2006, 18:32
why 14 pounds?

Hold on until I go and ask whoever made it official about 800 years ago...

I just checked the Wiki article to see if it said anything, and by some obscure coincidence it also uses 11st 4lb as an example...

Seems it just 'is' 14 lb. Doesn't really matter so much why.

this is all news to me...

Did you hear the Titanic sank?
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 18:33
It is a British thing.

It's a shame we don't both do the same thing (I don't care who adopts whose method {well, I would prefer not to measure purely in pounds because its a bit silly}), because the conversion is a total bitch.
Have you heard of the kilogram?
Nadkor
31-07-2006, 18:34
It used to be 12.5, hence why a hundredweight is called a hundredweight.

*nod*

A hundredweight being 112 pounds...how does that relate to stones or a stone being 12.5 pounds?
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 18:34
Ah...that explains a lot.

...So now they're hundredandtwelveweights?
Yep. I forget why, no doubt some interweb researching would reveal an highly interesting yet ultimately pointless explanation as to why.
Ieuano
31-07-2006, 18:35
I use stones too. Most visible number on my weighing scales in the bathroom.

Last I checked I hovered at round 11 st.

Should use metric given we've been metric for, oh, 40 odd years. Meh.

the place where you find metric in the UK is in centimeters and meters for generic measuring, kilometers for measuring in Maths lessons and as soon as your on the road it some how morphs into miles and mph
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 18:35
A hundredweight being 112 pounds...how does that relate to stones or a stone being 12.5 pounds?
Because 1cwt has always been 8st but not always 112lb. Back when 1st was 12.5lb, 1cwt would have been exactly 100lb, hence the name.

EDIT: And I found a page about it.

http://www.sizes.com/units/hundredweight.htm
Nadkor
31-07-2006, 18:36
how many stones in an imperial tonne?

160.
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 18:36
Have you heard of the kilogram?

No. *stabs metric system*

I'll keep the microns and nanometers.
Nadkor
31-07-2006, 18:37
Because 1cwt has always been 8st but not always 112lb. Back when 1st was 12.5lb, 1cwt would have been exactly 100lb, hence the name.

Ahhhhh I get it now.

*adds to useless knowledge corner of brain*
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 18:38
Ahhhhh I get it now.

*adds to useless knowledge corner of brain*

You'd think more than a corner would be required eventually.
ConscribedComradeship
31-07-2006, 18:42
*Runs away from thread, hugging the metric system*
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 18:42
No. *stabs metric system*

I'll keep the microns and nanometers.
But they don't make sense without the meter! :confused:

And once you have the meter, you have the centimeter and the cubic centimeter. And 1 cc of water weights 1 gram. So you may as well have the kilogram as well.
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 18:42
I use stones too. Most visible number on my weighing scales in the bathroom.

Last I checked I hovered at round 11 st.

Should use metric given we've been metric for, oh, 40 odd years. Meh.
It's the same reason that we still order pints of milk and beer, or deal in miles for distance and mph for speed. They're simple units that mean more to people than their metric equivalents. A good reason for decimalisation was that it made simple maths easier - taking it as far as converting measures used, most often, on their own (e.g. when talking about long distance you'd just judge to the nearest mile, as discussing anything less than a mile accurately is seen as pedantic and rightly so) is pointless.
Pure Metal
31-07-2006, 18:43
Pretty common in the UK for measuring a persons weight...like 11st 4lb or something like that.

More common, I would say, than kilograms or just pounds.
agreed.
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 18:43
It's the same reason that we still order pints of milk and beer, or deal in miles for distance and mph for speed. They're simple units that mean more to people than their metric equivalents. A good reason for decimalisation was that it made simple maths easier - taking it as far as converting measures used, most often, on their own (e.g. when talking about long distance you'd just judge to the nearest mile, as discussing anything less than a mile accurately is seen as pedantic and rightly so) is pointless.
BS. People use what they're used to. If they got used to metric they would estimate in metric.
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 18:46
But they don't make sense without the meter! :confused:

And once you have the meter, you have the centimeter and the cubic centimeter. And 1 cc of water weights 1 gram. So you may as well have the kilogram as well.
Only at 4°C.

EDIT: Forgot to put [/pedant] on this.

[/pedant]
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 18:48
BS. People use what they're used to. If they got used to metric they would estimate in metric.
And I agree with you. I'm just saying that a vast proportion of the populace would be annoyed about having to order a half-litre of beer. I remember being pissed off when our local sweet shops all converted from a quarter pound of sweets to 100g.
Nadkor
31-07-2006, 18:50
You'd think more than a corner would be required eventually.

Oh, it's a very big corner :p
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 18:50
And I agree with you. I'm just saying that a vast proportion of the populace would be annoyed about having to order a half-litre of beer. I remember being pissed off when our local sweet shops all converted from a quarter pound of sweets to 100g.
Well, people would be annoyed at almost anything given half the chance. If it were up to them Spring would be starting in the middle of February or something.
Ieuano
31-07-2006, 18:52
160.

thanks

so

16 drachms = 1 ounce
16 ounces = 1 pounds
14 pounds = 1 stone
2 stone = 1 quarter
4 quarters = 1 hundredweight
20 hundredweights = 1 ton
Nadkor
31-07-2006, 18:53
Well, people would be annoyed at almost anything given half the chance. If it were up to them Spring would be starting in the middle of February or something.

Change would be change for change's sake, not for any practical advantage to the average person.

If it ain't broken, don't fix it.
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 18:53
Well, people would be annoyed at almost anything given half the chance. If it were up to them Spring would be starting in the middle of February or something.
It's more to do with people disliking change, I reckon. Once your brain's got something figured out, changing the way you look at it's just another burden you don't need.

EDIT: Or, what Nadkor said.
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 19:07
But they don't make sense without the meter! :confused:

And once you have the meter, you have the centimeter and the cubic centimeter. And 1 cc of water weights 1 gram. So you may as well have the kilogram as well.

Feh, micron doesn't say meter on it so that doesn't matter. And we can use Angstroms if we can't have th nanometer, doesn't matter, everyone will call them nanomachines, and nano-circuits. And I know lots of people who don't think cc is cubic centimeter. Sides, we just have to avoid 4 degrees Celcius.


In fact. *stabs Centigrade scale* Fahrenheit and Kelvins!
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 19:11
Oh, it's a very big corner :p

*pokes* T'would require a big brain. ;)
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 19:13
Feh, micron doesn't say meter on it so that doesn't matter. And we can use Angstroms if we can't have th nanometer, doesn't matter, everyone will call them nanomachines, and nano-circuits. And I know lots of people who don't think cc is cubic centimeter. Sides, we just have to avoid 4 degrees Celcius.


In fact. *stabs Centigrade scale* Fahrenheit and Kelvins!
Nah, the Fahrenheit scale sucks bum. At least Celcius and Kelvin share a common unit size, and Celcius is a useful scale because it's based on water.
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 19:16
Change would be change for change's sake, not for any practical advantage to the average person.

If it ain't broken, don't fix it.
The system is broken. That the average British and US person is used to the quirks and the advantages of metric are not readily seen is a different matter. And they use partly metric anyway, it would just be going all the way.
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 19:17
Nah, the Fahrenheit scale sucks bum. At least Celcius and Kelvin share a common unit size, and Celcius is a useful scale because it's based on water.

So? Fahrenheit is based on a mixture of water salt and ice, and a healthy horse. Besides, if we have Kelvins, we can replace Celsius with it.
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 19:18
In fact. *stabs Centigrade scale* Fahrenheit and Kelvins!
But kelvin doesn't make sense without celsius :confused:
Fartsniffage
31-07-2006, 19:19
And I agree with you. I'm just saying that a vast proportion of the populace would be annoyed about having to order a half-litre of beer. I remember being pissed off when our local sweet shops all converted from a quarter pound of sweets to 100g.

I'd be very annoyed if they changes it from pints to 1/2 litres. There's more than 500mls in a pint but they wouldn't change the price would they?
A Lynx Bus
31-07-2006, 19:20
Nah, the Fahrenheit scale sucks bum. At least Celcius and Kelvin share a common unit size, and Celcius is a useful scale because it's based on water.
No, I'm sorry but saying it's 33+ degrees is just not high enough to express how hot it is outside.
Pure Metal
31-07-2006, 19:21
No, I'm sorry but saying it's 33+ degrees is just not high enough to express how hot it is outside.
it is when you know 0 is freezing :p
Fartsniffage
31-07-2006, 19:21
No, I'm sorry but saying it's 33+ degrees is just not high enough to express how hot it is outside.

So you believe in the imperial system because the numbers are bigger so it makes you feel better? :confused:
A Lynx Bus
31-07-2006, 19:21
it is when you know 0 is freezing :p
Yes, coldness is the only thing it expresses well.

So you believe in the imperial system because the numbers are bigger so it makes you feel better? :confused:It expresses the overall feeling better.
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 19:22
No, I'm sorry but saying it's 33+ degrees is just not high enough to express how hot it is outside.
It's done me fine for the last 19 years. I always think of it as 25+ is hot, 30+ really hot, 35+ is a bloody joke. Then again, I'm English, so technically 15°C+ is a warm day :D
BAAWAKnights
31-07-2006, 19:22
Have you heard of the kilogram?
Kilogram = SI unit of mass
Newton = SI unit of weight (kg * m/s^2)

We do not ever, under any circumstances, EVER, measure weight with kilograms, despite what some people might think.
Ieuano
31-07-2006, 19:23
It's done me fine for the last 19 years. I always think of it as 25+ is hot, 30+ really hot, 35+ is a bloody joke. Then again, I'm English, so technically 15°C+ is a warm day :D

nice comfy 24°C today, not like the rediculous 35's we were having
Nadkor
31-07-2006, 19:24
*pokes* T'would require a big brain. ;)

What can I say, it's well provided for ;)
A Lynx Bus
31-07-2006, 19:24
It's done me fine for the last 19 years. I always think of it as 25+ is hot, 30+ really hot, 35+ is a bloody joke. Then again, I'm English, so technically 15°C+ is a warm day :D
Where my aunt and cousin are right now, it'd be a little more than 38, that sounds a lot less dramatic than 102. 102 expresses how terrible it actually is.
Romanar
31-07-2006, 19:25
It's done me fine for the last 19 years. I always think of it as 25+ is hot, 30+ really hot, 35+ is a bloody joke. Then again, I'm English, so technically 15°C+ is a warm day :D

Meh! You Europeans are wimps about the heat. When it gets to 40, you complain as if it were 104! ;)

Edit: Which it is, here is Missouri!
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 19:25
Kilogram = SI unit of mass
Newton = SI unit of weight (kg * m/s^2)

We do not ever, under any circumstances, EVER, measure weight with kilograms, despite what some people might think.
So, you order ham by mass, so what? Unless gravity changes or you move to another planet, it makes no difference in everyday life, only to physics teachers.
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 19:26
But kelvin doesn't make sense without celsius :confused:

Of course it does. Starting with zero at absolute zero, now that makes sense.
Psychotic Mongooses
31-07-2006, 19:28
Meh! You Europeans are wimps about the heat. When it gets to 40, you complain as if it were 104! ;)

Edit: Which it is, here is Missouri!
We don't do air conditioning.
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 19:29
Kilogram = SI unit of mass
Newton = SI unit of weight (kg * m/s^2)

We do not ever, under any circumstances, EVER, measure weight with kilograms, despite what some people might think.
That's just one of those things that physics teachers have to point out to students in order that they pass their exams. In terms of buying food, you wouldn't care if its weight differed in different gravitational fields, as long as you were getting the same amount of food. Mass is technically correct, but weight is in common useage.

EDIT: What Iztatepopotla said.
Fartsniffage
31-07-2006, 19:31
Kilogram = SI unit of mass
Newton = SI unit of weight (kg * m/s^2)

We do not ever, under any circumstances, EVER, measure weight with kilograms, despite what some people might think.

You go with that science pedantry.

My personal bugbear is people using the word 'volatile' incorrectly.
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 19:31
We don't do air conditioning.
Damn right we don't, bloody waste of power.

Except in modern cars. And many office buildings. And shops.

But not at home! Oh no. For wimps, y'see.
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 19:32
Of course it does. Starting with zero at absolute zero, now that makes sense.
Well, I guess you can define the unit using calories or something.
Pure Metal
31-07-2006, 19:32
Where my aunt and cousin are right now, it'd be a little more than 38, that sounds a lot less dramatic than 102. 102 expresses how terrible it actually is.
only because you're used to imperial systems.

we're used to 38 sounding fucking hot, thank you.
everything is relative, not to mention subjective (so this is rather pointless)
A Lynx Bus
31-07-2006, 19:32
Damn right we don't, bloody waste of power.

Except in modern cars. And many office buildings. And shops.

But not at home! Oh no. For wimps, y'see.
I hope y'all use deoderant.

only because you're used to imperial systems.

we're used to 38 sounding fucking hot, thank you.
everything is relative, not to mention subjective (so this is rather pointless)On a 1-100 scale(or 0 in this case) which is quite common, 38 is wicked low. Stop getting offended because I don't like your low numbers.
Psychotic Mongooses
31-07-2006, 19:34
I hope y'all use deoderant.
You don't?
Bleugh.
A Lynx Bus
31-07-2006, 19:38
You don't?
Bleugh.
Where in that was the implication that I didn't? I'm not French.
Pure Metal
31-07-2006, 19:39
I hope y'all use deoderant.

On a 1-100 scale(or 0 in this case) which is quite common, 38 is wicked low. Stop getting offended because I don't like your low numbers.
offended? i couldn't give a shit less what you think :p

thing is F isn't a scale of 1 to 100. a percentage based temperature system would be interesting though...

... oh wait. we have that. the temperature water boils is 100*C. and it freezes at 0*C...... hmm.
Psychotic Mongooses
31-07-2006, 19:39
I'm not French.
No, but you are American. Therefore you must be obese. And obese people smell terribly.
Nadkor
31-07-2006, 19:39
Where in that was the implication that I didn't? I'm not French.

Where in that was the implication you were French?
Kzord
31-07-2006, 19:40
Awesome people use stones.
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 19:41
offended? i couldn't give a shit less what you think :p

thing is F isn't a scale of 1 to 100. a percentage based temperature system would be interesting though...

... oh wait. we have that. the temperature water boils is 100*C. and it freezes at 0*C...... hmm.

And then there's negative numbers, so it's really...not.

Now, if you wanted to take absolute zero as zero, then figure out the highest possible temperature and make that 100, you'd have something.
Ieuano
31-07-2006, 19:42
offended? i couldn't give a shit less what you think :p

thing is F isn't a scale of 1 to 100. a percentage based temperature system would be interesting though...

... oh wait. we have that. the temperature water boils is 100*C. and it freezes at 0*C...... hmm.

pure water that is [/pedant]
A Lynx Bus
31-07-2006, 19:42
offended? i couldn't give a shit less what you think :p

thing is F isn't a scale of 1 to 100. a percentage based temperature system would be interesting though...

... oh wait. we have that. the temperature water boils is 100*C. and it freezes at 0*C...... hmm.
I didn't say it was on a 1-100 scale, smart guy.


No, but you are American. Therefore you must be obese. And obese people smell terribly.What are you, British? So you have bad teeth and breath, can't cook for shit, and many people on the isle fuck sheep? cheers

Where in that was the implication you were French? That made no sense. We were talking about deoderant and a stereotype is that the French don't use it, try to keep up.

Awesome people use stones. No, awesome people throw stones.
Ieuano
31-07-2006, 19:43
And then there's negative numbers, so it's really...not.

Now, if you wanted to take absolute zero as zero, then figure out the highest possible temperature and make that 100, you'd have something.

increamentations would be to be, you could freeze and boil at say 3 degrees Dinaverg Scale
Fartsniffage
31-07-2006, 19:44
pure water that is [/pedant]

You also have to take air pressure into account. It only works at standard atmospheric pressure.
A Lynx Bus
31-07-2006, 19:45
Good god, this is now situational?
Psychotic Mongooses
31-07-2006, 19:47
What are you, British? So you have bad teeth and breath, can't cook for shit, and many people on the isle fuck sheep? cheers
No. Not British.

That made no sense. We were talking about deoderant and a stereotype is that the French don't use it, try to keep up.
*WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH*

Clearly didn't get my point did you?
A Lynx Bus
31-07-2006, 19:50
No. Not British.


*WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH*

Clearly didn't get my point did you?
Unless you just made a stereotype about Americans not using deoderant, that wasn't the same at all. You had to use a currently existing stereotype to make another joke. Mine was a straight up stereotype, see the difference?
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 19:50
increamentations would be to be, you could freeze and boil at say 3 degrees Dinaverg Scale

Well we'd divide it up. MilliDinas, MicroDinas, NanoDinas, pico, femto, atto...
Psychotic Mongooses
31-07-2006, 19:51
Unless you just made a stereotype about Americans not using deoderant, that wasn't the same at all. You had to use a currently existing stereotype to make another joke. Mine was a straight up stereotype, see the difference?
No, but you are American. Therefore you must be obese

What do I have to do? Club you over the head? Jesus....
BAAWAKnights
31-07-2006, 19:52
So, you order ham by mass, so what? Unless gravity changes or you move to another planet, it makes no difference in everyday life, only to physics teachers.
Simply saying that something "weights" such and such kilograms is wrong, especially when the metric-users like to say that their system is superior, yet don't know the correct units which they are speaking of.
Ieuano
31-07-2006, 19:52
Well we'd divide it up. MilliDinas, MicroDinas, NanoDinas, pico, femto, atto...

:eek: it could be a plan, but then the highest temp is infinity or somethjing
Nadkor
31-07-2006, 19:52
What do I have to do? Club you over the head? Jesus....

That would be nice...
Pure Metal
31-07-2006, 19:52
And then there's negative numbers, so it's really...not.

Now, if you wanted to take absolute zero as zero, then figure out the highest possible temperature and make that 100, you'd have something.
its 3.0041543% degrees today! phew! :P
Ieuano
31-07-2006, 19:53
You also have to take air pressure into account. It only works at standard atmospheric pressure.

that is true, im not cut out to ba a proper pedant :(
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 19:53
:eek: it could be a plan, but then the highest temp is infinity or somethjing

...No, there has to be a limit...
Ieuano
31-07-2006, 19:53
...No, there has to be a limit...

infinity - 1 ;)
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 19:53
That would be nice...

Do it! Do it! Do it!....
A Lynx Bus
31-07-2006, 19:55
What do I have to do? Club you over the head? Jesus....
I asked if you people used deoderant. You said, "you don't?" and then you went with obesity. You first implied that because I was American that I didn't use deoderant, you tard.

What do I have to do? hit you in the temple with a giant turkey leg?
Romanar
31-07-2006, 19:55
...No, there has to be a limit...

I don't know what that limit is, but the core of our sun is something like 20 million degrees! And some stars are a lot hotter than that!!
Psychotic Mongooses
31-07-2006, 19:56
I asked if you people used deoderant. You said, "you don't?" and then you went with obesity. You first implied that because I was American that I didn't use deoderant, you tard.
Wow. You're stupid too. You really are an American! :eek:
Nadkor
31-07-2006, 19:57
Do it! Do it! Do it!....

Yes, do it, do it!
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 19:57
I don't know what that limit is, but the core of our sun is something like 20 million degrees! And some stars are a lot hotter than that!!

I know, but a NanoDina would be a billionth of a hundredth of the hottest possible temperature, so even if the highest possible temperature was a trillion degrees, a NanoDina would only be about ten degrees.
A Lynx Bus
31-07-2006, 19:57
Wow. You're stupid too. You really are an American! :eek:
You're calling me stupid because you fucked up. Brilliant
Psychotic Mongooses
31-07-2006, 19:59
You're calling me stupid because you fucked up. Brilliant
*WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH* again.

[I should really stop. I'm gut-laughing so hard I'm getting strange looks from people around me]
The South Islands
31-07-2006, 19:59
Blunt Object Fight!!!
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 19:59
Simply saying that something "weights" such and such kilograms is wrong, especially when the metric-users like to say that their system is superior, yet don't know the correct units which they are speaking of.
Yes, it is wrong to use the incorrect unit, but it doesn't affect the measurement in everyday life. At least it's not like Imperial or Standard users that go "Oh, but our system is much better because it makes sense. Is this a 60 watt light bulb?"
:D
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 20:00
I know, but a NanoDina would be a billionth of a hundredth of the hottest possible temperature, so even if the highest possible temperature was a trillion degrees, a NanoDina would only be about ten degrees.
Except on Summer. On Summer it could be 20 degrees.
A Lynx Bus
31-07-2006, 20:01
*WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH* again.

[I should really stop. I'm gut-laughing so hard I'm getting strange looks from people around me]
Are you completely retaded? Nothing you're saying it going over anyone's head because you haven't said anything profound or even intelligent. Yea, you made another common stereotype...hahaha, you're hilarious in your own mind. That's nice, the first time you fucked up, good job.
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 20:02
Except on Summer. On Summer it could be 20 degrees.

Summer? Huh?
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 20:03
Are you completely retaded? Nothing you're saying it going over anyone's head because you haven't said anything profound or even intelligent. Yea, you made another common stereotype...hahaha, you're hilarious in your own mind. That's nice, the first time you fucked up, good job.

Technically, if it did go over your head, you wouldn't be able to tell if it's intelligent on not.
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 20:04
You're calling me stupid because you fucked up. Brilliant
That's the point though, he didn't fuck up. He never said Americans don't use deodourant, he questioned whether you do. Then he used the stereotype that all Americans were fat. He never implied that it was a stereotype that Americans don't use deodourant, you introduced that idea as a stereotype after his post about you.
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 20:04
Summer? Huh?
Well, in Summer is hotter, so the highest possible temperature is higher still. Besides, it would make people feel better "What do you mean it's the worst Summer yet? It's the same as in February!"
A Lynx Bus
31-07-2006, 20:04
Technically, if it did go over your head, you wouldn't be able to tell if it's intelligent on not.
My my do I love technicalities.

That's the point though, he didn't fuck up. He never said Americans don't use deodourant, he questioned whether you do. Then he used the stereotype that all Americans were fat. He never implied that it was a stereotype that Americans don't use deodourant, you introduced that idea as a stereotype after his post about you. It's this simple, he/she/it said I was American, said "you don't" in terms of using deoderant. Yes, then there was the fat stereotype. Then it was Americans are fat, they smell.
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 20:05
Well, in Summer is hotter, so the highest possible temperature is higher still. Besides, it would make people feel better "What do you mean it's the worst Summer yet? It's the same as in February!"
We're not talking about the highest possible temperature on Earth at a certain point, we want the highest possible temperature in the universe, ever.
Psychotic Mongooses
31-07-2006, 20:05
That's the point though, he didn't fuck up. He never said Americans don't use deodourant, he questioned whether you do. Then he used the stereotype that all Americans were fat. He never implied that it was a stereotype that Americans don't use deodourant, you introduced that idea as a stereotype after his post about you.

http://wiki.coolmon.org/files/cookie.jpg :fluffle:
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 20:07
Blunt Object Fight!!!
Fight! Fight! Fight!

300 quadloos on the newcomers!
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 20:08
We're not talking about the highest possible temperature on Earth at a certain point, we want the highest possible temperature in the universe, ever.
Doesn't the Universe have summers? Anyway, the temperature at the start of the Universe, right at the moment of the Big-bang. That's the one you want.
Ieuano
31-07-2006, 20:09
Fight! Fight! Fight!

300 quadloos on the newcomers!

I raise you One Zimbabwean Dollar!
A Lynx Bus
31-07-2006, 20:09
The turkey leg is going to be replaced by a hockey stick unless Canadian products aren't allowed.
Psychotic Mongooses
31-07-2006, 20:09
http://www.elyonline.co.uk/images/wp_feature_images/cartman.gif

CRIPPLE FIGHT!!!
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 20:09
Doesn't the Universe have summers? Anyway, the temperature at the start of the Universe, right at the moment of the Big-bang. That's the one you want.

Yes. We must find that temperature. Who shall join me in this quest!
Ieuano
31-07-2006, 20:14
Yes. We must find that temperature. Who shall join me in this quest!

*turns on oven*

Ill join you!
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 20:15
It's this simple, he/she/it said I was American, said "you don't" in terms of using deoderant. Yes, then there was the fat stereotype. Then it was Americans are fat, they smell.
But he never said it was a famed stereotype that Americans don't use deodourant - the 'you' was singular. As for the Last part, that's just an extrapolation.

EDIT: @PM - ta for that cookie. I'd eat it now but my English teeth are far too diseased to chew it.
A Lynx Bus
31-07-2006, 20:17
But he never said it was a famed stereotype that Americans don't use deodourant - the 'you' was singular. As for the Last part, that's just an extrapolation.
I never said it was a famed stereotype either, I said it would've had to have been made up. Me being an American should've been of no consequence.
Fartsniffage
31-07-2006, 20:19
I never said it was a famed stereotype either, I said it would've had to have been made up. Me being an American should've been of no consequence.

Dude, drop it. You screwed up and are making yourself look very silly at the moment.
Pure Metal
31-07-2006, 20:19
http://www.elyonline.co.uk/images/wp_feature_images/cartman.gif

CRIPPLE FIGHT!!!
lmao! :p
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 20:20
*turns on oven*

Ill join you!
A covenant, to take a termometer and stick up the black hole at the start of the universe. It shall be the Fellowship of the Ring... of Fire.
Ieuano
31-07-2006, 20:21
A covenant, to take a termometer and stick up the black hole at the start of the universe. It shall be the Fellowship of the Ring... of Fire.

itll have to ba a big thermometer then
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 20:23
Dude, drop it. You screwed up and are making yourself look very silly at the moment.
I think I'll give up before he does. It's like trying to knock down a wall with my face.
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 20:23
itll have to ba a big thermometer then

A rectal one?
Teneur
31-07-2006, 20:24
The Imperial system is based on 12's, where as the Metric system is based on 10's. Therefore it is much much easier to convert to smaller and larger units using the Metric system as you do not have to deal with fractions and decimals.

To name a few examples:
A Metric tonne is 1000 kilograms (2205 pounds in the imperial system)
A kilometer is 1000 meters (0.621 miles in the imperial system)

>>MATH LESSON<<
Generally the smallest practical measurement of distance in the metric system is 1 milimeter.
10 milimeters makes 1 centimeter, 100 centimeters makes 1 meter, 1000 meters makes 1 kilometer.

Now compare that to the Imperial system of distance
12 inches makes 1 foot, 3 feet makes 1 yard, 1,760 yards (or 5,280 feet) makes 1 mile.

which system is easier to understand and easier to convert to smaller and larger units? The Metric System (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_system)
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 20:24
I think I'll give up before he does. It's like trying to knock down a wall with my face.
:headbang:?
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 20:26
A rectal one?
Well, obviously, it being the black hole of the universe and all.
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 20:27
The Imperial system is based on 12's, where as the Metric system is based on 10's. Therefore it is much much easier to convert to smaller and larger units using the Metric system as you do not have to deal with fractions and decimals.

To name a few examples:
A Metric tonne is 1000 kilograms (2205 pounds in the imperial system)
A kilometer is 1000 meters (0.621 miles in the imperial system)

>>MATH LESSON<<
Generally the smallest practical measurement of distance in the metric system is 1 milimeter.
10 milimeters makes 1 centimeter, 100 centimeters makes 1 meter, 1000 meters makes 1 kilometer.

Now compare that to the Imperial system of distance
12 inches makes 1 foot, 3 feet makes 1 yard, 1,760 yards (or 5,280 feet) makes 1 mile.

which system is easier to understand and easier to convert to smaller and larger units? The Metric System (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_system)

Too bad it's already been stabbed then.
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 20:28
:headbang:?
Well yeah, but that's on my list of banned smilies. Aside from the fact I don't like the aesthetics of it, that one smacks of n00b.
Romanar
31-07-2006, 20:28
Well, obviously, it being the black hole of the universe and all.

I'm sorry, I wasn't paying attention. Are we talking about Uranus?
Ieuano
31-07-2006, 20:31
A rectal one?

naturally
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 20:31
I'm sorry, I wasn't paying attention. Are we talking about Uranus?
No, there's already been much talk around that one... and on top of it...

But I'd rather not discuss that at the moment! It's the quest for the highest temperature in the universe ever.
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 20:33
EDIT: Scratch that, I've upped it to 10e32K!
The South Islands
31-07-2006, 20:34
I've got 100e9K over here!
Penis?
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 20:35
I've got 100e9K over here!

100,000,000,000?
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 20:36
100,000,000,000?
Right idea, but I've changed it. The interweb's fun like that.
Ieuano
31-07-2006, 20:36
i have 1.1e12
Kellarly
31-07-2006, 20:37
The Imperial system is based on 12's, where as the Metric system is based on 10's. Therefore it is much much easier to convert to smaller and larger units using the Metric system as you do not have to deal with fractions and decimals.

To name a few examples:
A Metric tonne is 1000 kilograms (2205 pounds in the imperial system)
A kilometer is 1000 meters (0.621 miles in the imperial system)

>>MATH LESSON<<
Generally the smallest practical measurement of distance in the metric system is 1 milimeter.
10 milimeters makes 1 centimeter, 100 centimeters makes 1 meter, 1000 meters makes 1 kilometer.

Now compare that to the Imperial system of distance
12 inches makes 1 foot, 3 feet makes 1 yard, 1,760 yards (or 5,280 feet) makes 1 mile.

which system is easier to understand and easier to convert to smaller and larger units? The Metric System (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_system)


So I challenge my brain less. Whoopdeedoo.

I've grown up with it, I use it, I'm used to it.

And please, you have to fuck about with decimals and fractions that much. In fact the old pound, which was made up of 240 pence, was incredibly useful as it was divisible by, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12, 15, 16, 20, 24, 30, 40, 48, 60, 80, 120 and itself.

100 is divided into 1, 2, 4, 5, 10, 20, 25, 50.

Which one is more practical by being easily divisible by more numbers? Oh wait...

And which one do you have to mess about with more decimals? Oh wait...
Ieuano
31-07-2006, 20:38
EDIT: Scratch that, I've upped it to 10e32K!

tecnically that should be 1e33K
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 20:38
EDIT: Scratch that, I've upped it to 10e32K!
I've got 10e32 K too, at 10e-43 seconds.
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 20:39
Found it! But it may be a bit too large.

141,679(11),000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_temperature)
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 20:39
tecnically that should be 1e33K
No. 1 multiplied 33 times by itself is 1. 10 multiplied 32 times by itself is 100000000000000000000000000000000 (if I didn't lose count)
DHomme
31-07-2006, 20:50
16 drams = 1 oz.
16 oz. = 1 lb.
14 lb. = 1 stone
A dram of weed is worth 10 pounds on the nose. Thats awesome.
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 20:50
No. 1 multiplied 33 times by itself is 1. 10 multiplied 32 times by itself is 100000000000000000000000000000000 (if I didn't lose count)
Nah, he's right. The e denotes 10^x. It should have been 1e32, or 10^32.

My bad. My old physics teacher would kill me if they saw this :eek:
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 20:52
Nah, he's right. The e denotes 10^x. It should have been 1e32, or 10^32.

My bad. My old physics teacher would kill me if they saw this :eek:
Really? It's been too long for me too, then.
Les Drapeaux Brulants
31-07-2006, 20:53
I just finished stacking 6000 pounds of stones. Or was that 430 stones of rocks?
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 20:54
Really? It's been too long for me too, then.
Meh, it's just more proof that I secretly hate the internet.

WHY WON'T YOU LET ME USE SUPERSCRIPT? WHY!?
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 20:58
Hmm. Well, that's far too large for what I had in mind. I say we switch the upperbound of the system to ten teraKelvins. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_E12_K)
Nadkor
31-07-2006, 21:01
Hmm. Well, that's far too large for what I had in mind. I say we switch the upperbound of the system to ten teraKelvins. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_E12_K)


Ah...Kelvin. Another great Belfast man.
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 21:03
Ah...Kelvin. Another great Belfast man.

Behold, the worlds largest dry dock!
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 21:09
I know someone called Kelvin. It's his first name. Strange or what?
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 21:11
I know someone called Kelvin. It's his first name. Strange or what?

Aye that's weird. Now, to find someone named Cent E. Grade
The South Islands
31-07-2006, 21:11
I know someone called Kelvin. It's his first name. Strange or what?

Was he hot?
Nadkor
31-07-2006, 21:11
Behold, the worlds largest dry dock!

And the oldest still published English language newspaper in the world!


Yes, Belfast truly is a place of wonder.


(I adore it really)
Nadkor
31-07-2006, 21:12
Aye that's weird. Now, to find someone named Cent E. Grade

Don't forget Farren Hyte.
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 21:13
And the oldest still published English language newspaper in the world!


Yes, Belfast truly is a place of wonder.


(I adore it really)

It does seem to be very useful. *nod*
Fartsniffage
31-07-2006, 21:13
And the oldest still published English language newspaper in the world!

The Irish can read? :eek:
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 21:16
Don't forget Farren Hyte.

Ah, yes of course. Alternatives include Cynthia(Cint for short) E. Grade, Xe L. Sius, Chel C. Aus, and Faire N. Hyte.
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 21:25
Was he hot?
Nah, he's an absolute zero.

Only joking, he's the most disgustingly funny person I know.
Nadkor
31-07-2006, 21:25
The Irish can read? :eek:

No, no, we just look at the pictures and pretend we understand the words.
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 21:27
No, no, we just look at the pictures and pretend we understand the words.
And drunkenly brawl with anyone who questions your literacy, don't forget that.
Fartsniffage
31-07-2006, 21:28
No, no, we just look at the pictures and pretend we understand the words.

Ahh, now I feel that the world has come back into balance. I was getting afraid that my world view was skewed.:cool:
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 21:29
And drunkenly brawl with anyone who questions your literacy, don't forget that.

Aye, aye. Mustn't forget that.
Nadkor
31-07-2006, 21:34
And drunkenly brawl with anyone who questions your literacy, don't forget that.

Oh, of course, it's central to the Irish identity.
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 21:55
Aha! One nanodegree Dinaverg will be 180 degrees Fahrenheit.

Therefore, common measurements will be made in picodegrees.
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 21:59
Aha! One nanodegree Dinaverg will be 180 degrees Fahrenheit.

Therefore, common measurements will be made in picodegrees.
No offence meant to your system, but I'll be sticking with celcius. :p
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 22:02
No offence meant to your system, but I'll be sticking with celcius. :p

Oh yeah! Well...See how you like it when you're at 1.53 nanodegrees!
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 22:10
Oh yeah! Well...See how you like it when you're at 1.53 nanodegrees!
Is that a threat, sir?

No seriously, is that a threat. I'm having some trouble with your system. :p
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 22:19
Is that a threat, sir?

No seriously, is that a threat. I'm having some trouble with your system. :p

Hmm...It seems to be -184.27 degrees Fahrenheit, so yes.
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 22:25
Hmm...It seems to be -184.27 degrees Fahrenheit, so yes.
Curses! Must...strike..heroic...pose!
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 22:31
We shall freeze (apparently) the enemies of the system!

3 nano degreees is about 80 degrees Fahrenheit!
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 22:33
We shall freeze (apparently) the enemies of the system!

3 nano degreees is about 80 degrees Fahrenheit!
A good standard, that.
Not bad
31-07-2006, 22:34
We shall freeze (apparently) the enemies of the system!

3 nano degreees is about 80 degrees Fahrenheit!

Did you ever jump ladders? Is that what this deviant temperature behavior is all about?
Posi
31-07-2006, 22:34
You actually expect imperial measurements to make sense?

Silly boy, everybody knows it's all arbitrary :p
Or, it appears that way to an untrained eye. Really, the British designed the system to be as difficult as possible, because they are idiots.
Nadkor
31-07-2006, 22:35
Or, it appears that way to an untrained eye. Really, the British designed the system to be as difficult as possible, because they are idiots.

That's a very large possibility...
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 22:37
Did you ever jump ladders? Is that what this deviant temperature behavior is all about?

*koff* Why whatever are you speaking of? I surely have no idea. :)
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 22:38
That's a very large possibility...

Keep the subjects uneducated, eh! Well....errr....They're lucky my country already revolted!
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 22:39
Or, it appears that way to an untrained eye. Really, the British designed the system to be as difficult as possible, because they are idiots.
Aye, this is true. We're lovable idiots, though, like a labradour.
Posi
31-07-2006, 23:08
Aye, this is true. We're lovable idiots, though, like a labradour.
I'd like to think that the Brits are smarter than the Labs. I've seen a lab walk into a chair. Was a sad, sad sight.
Theoretical Physicists
31-07-2006, 23:38
BS. People use what they're used to. If they got used to metric they would estimate in metric.
It's true, I've been using metric estimates in real life because I got used to it in school physics.

In fact. *stabs Centigrade scale* Fahrenheit and Kelvins!
The only difference between centigrade and kelvin is 273.15.

And then there's negative numbers, so it's really...not.

Now, if you wanted to take absolute zero as zero, then figure out the highest possible temperature and make that 100, you'd have something.
Something where room temperature can be easily expressed as 0.0003415.

...No, there has to be a limit...
Temperature is a measure of the average energy of something. Hence, the highest possible temperature in the universe would be where all matter but one elementary particle was converted into energy for that particle.
Nadkor
31-07-2006, 23:39
Keep the subjects uneducated, eh! Well....errr....They're lucky my country already revolted!

Pity it seems to be following the "keep the subjects uneducated" route, though :p
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 23:52
The only difference between centigrade and kelvin is 273.15.

So it doesn't matter if I stab one.


Something where room temperature can be easily expressed as 0.0003415.

Actually, .0003415 is about 340 microdegrees, so it's about 61 million degrees Fahrenheit.

Temperature is a measure of the average energy of something. Hence, the highest possible temperature in the universe would be where all matter but one elementary particle was converted into energy for that particle.

Eh, it was too big, we simplified to .00001 seconds after the Big Bang.
Dinaverg
31-07-2006, 23:53
Pity it seems to be following the "keep the subjects uneducated" route, though :p

True...:p