Thoughts About Communism
Sedation Ministry
29-07-2006, 23:45
Ok, thinking about "true" Communism.
We're stranded on an island, just like the show, "Survivor".
We're all healthy, etc. And we're starving, because we can find water, but no food on the island.
Would it be true communism to pick a "volunteer" at random, then strangle them and eat them to prevent the rest of us from being starved? From "each" according to their ability, to "each" according to their need?
Or would we all starve together as brothers?
United Chicken Kleptos
29-07-2006, 23:51
Ok, thinking about "true" Communism.
We're stranded on an island, just like the show, "Survivor".
We're all healthy, etc. And we're starving, because we can find water, but no food on the island.
Would it be true communism to pick a "volunteer" at random, then strangle them and eat them to prevent the rest of us from being starved? From "each" according to their ability, to "each" according to their need?
Or would we all starve together as brothers?
You would all starve together.
Hydesland
29-07-2006, 23:52
Maybe you would all eat each other at the same time.
Dissonant Cognition
29-07-2006, 23:55
I would think it would be far more practical to learn how to fish, rather than sit around worrying about which particular economic system to create and practice.
It wouldn't be communism. It would be anarchy.
You aren't going to be starving on an island, and trying to pick an economic system to follow.
Dinaverg
29-07-2006, 23:58
Finding edible plants?
Greyenivol Colony
30-07-2006, 00:03
Everyone volunteers a few fingers, we fry them up, and share them between us.
(That's what I don't get about this whole Desert Island scenario, there are many ways in which you can eat from a person without killing them...)
Holyawesomeness
30-07-2006, 00:05
How would you do it in a capitalist system?
You couldn't. Communism and capitalism in their ideal forms could not account for this kind of situation, it really comes down to political power struggles as somebody's right's have to be removed and it will end up being the weakest person in terms of political struggles.
Greyenivol Colony
30-07-2006, 00:24
How would you do it in a capitalist system?
You couldn't. Communism and capitalism in their ideal forms could not account for this kind of situation, it really comes down to political power struggles as somebody's right's have to be removed and it will end up being the weakest person in terms of political struggles.
Morally Ambiguous Survivor: Hey. I'm a millionaire back home - I'll write you a cheque for a million dollars if you let me eat you.
Incredibly Stupid Survivor: It's a DEAL!!!
Conscience and Truth
30-07-2006, 00:47
Ok, thinking about "true" Communism.
We're stranded on an island, just like the show, "Survivor".
A lot of atheists yearn for communism, it is incompatible with individual liberty.
Tech-gnosis
30-07-2006, 01:34
A lot of atheists yearn for communism, it is incompatible with individual liberty.
A lot of atheist yearn for libertarianism, conservatism, liberalism of any type, and social democracy. So what?
Vittos Ordination2
30-07-2006, 01:36
Communism, capitalism, whatever, does not apply to the situation you describe.
Vittos Ordination2
30-07-2006, 01:37
A lot of atheists yearn for communism, it is incompatible with individual liberty.
You are a nut.
If you are a troll, you are far too subtle. Go really apeshit and make a name for yourself.
New Xero Seven
30-07-2006, 01:38
Mangos, papayas, and watermelons sound scrumptious... but human flesh is truly to die for.
Conscience and Truth
30-07-2006, 01:57
A lot of atheist yearn for libertarianism, conservatism, liberalism of any type, and social democracy. So what?
Communism isn't compatible with liberty. Free people are obliged to fight socialism and communism.
Vacuumhead
30-07-2006, 02:10
Communism isn't compatible with liberty. Free people are obliged to fight socialism and communism.
Really now! :eek:
You seem to always want to enforce your beliefs on everyone else.
I don't see any problems with socialism, I don't feel obliged to fight it.
Tech-gnosis
30-07-2006, 02:11
Communism isn't compatible with liberty. Free people are obliged to fight socialism and communism.
Why did you associate communism with atheists when atheists follow many different ideologies. There was a movement that called for Christian scocialism. Let us then bash all Christians.
wow, communism is now all about canniballism, anti-liberty, and reality tv shows.
Communism is one mans answer to the "pursuit of happiness" ideal, with a completely thought out answer that the world, with its capitalistic greed and inherantly corrupt rulers, seems to be incapable of realizing
Call to power
30-07-2006, 02:17
Communism isn't compatible with liberty. Free people are obliged to fight socialism and communism.
capitalism really isn't compatible with liberty either after all how are you free if you still serve a greedy tyrant who holds the power to make you starve (fire you).
so as you can see liberty is bullshit and its promises and obligations should be avoided like the plague
but back to the topic its simple really the party members will eat everyone before spreading there dangerous ideals to other islands to consume the survivors who inhabit them
Freilund
30-07-2006, 02:23
The ideals of true Communism are very good on paper, of course, but put into practice is a completely different story. What a cliche thing to say, I know, because I've heard it hundreds of times. Caring about one another, and collectivism? It takes a mature group of individuals for this to work, but if it did work it'd be perfect utopia. Another problem is that Communism calls for a head of state to set everything in order, then for that head of state to step down and let the society take over. Of course, the head of state (thus far, in communist nations) has never stepped down. The idea of Communism having a Head of State is a paradox in the way that you can't all be equals when someone is barking orders and others are obeying. So what it comes down to is if all of the people on the island are mature enough to let it work.