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I'm sure you've been talking to someone at, say 1 am and said
"tomorrow", even though you meant the same day. So, to avoid this I propose we move the start of the day to 6am. Any takers?

Poll ahoy!

That seems to happen more often then not. I dictate the start of the new day when my alarm goes off.

Naw, if I mean tomorrow as in today, then I'll say today.

This is silly. Move it to spam! :D

This is silly. Move it to spam! :D
Your post count sky-rocketed 200 posts since yesterday...

While we're at it, we should make hours last longer so there are only 10 of them per day.

And add three days to the weekend, so there are 10 days in a week.

I believe the Romans did something like this that is why Noon is 12 instead of 9...

I vote a definative yes! I'm active duty military and I can't remember the last time I got to sleep in that late.

I'm sure you've been talking to someone at, say 1 am and said "tomorrow", even though you meant the same day. So, to avoid this I propose we move the start of the day to 6am. Any takers?

A new day is when I wake up the first time in the morning and I think I have an understanding that that is what I mean with everyone I know.

Your post count sky-rocketed 200 posts since yesterday...
I don't want to look like a n00b anymore. I'm trying hard to catch up with my old nations postcount.
And no I'm not just posting smilie spam and crap like that. :gundge:

I don't care. I sleep whenever and I'm always confused as to what day it is anyway.

600 is quite early. Many people are still up at 600. Move it to something reasonable, like 1430.

While we're at it, we should make hours last longer so there are only 10 of them per day.

And add three days to the weekend, so there are 10 days in a week.
Deciaml time! Wh00t! While we're at it, start the year coutn at the Founding of Rome...I think its 2759 or so now.

I usually get up at 5:30 anyway

well in Majora's Maks the day begins at 6 but in Oblivion it begins at 8... and today started 1 hour and 6 minutes(ish) ago.

wait how the hell was anything in my last post relivent?

I say not because no matter what time you place it at somebody will think that it is totally arbitrary. Rather than overhaul an entire system just to deal with your problem it would probably be better to simply adjust to the system. People slip up all of the time, this doesn't mean that your slip-ups are any more special or signs of problems in the system itself, all that will probably happen is your complaint about when the day starts will be matched by another who finds your change to be annoying.

I used to get up at 0500, but that was when I was active military and had to make sure a couple of my guys would decide to make it to formation. Now since my first class is at 10 I get up about 0800 or 0830. I like being a civilian at times.

0:00 should be at what is now 6:00.

0:00 should be at what is now 6:00.
and that really screws with any new years celebration.

Once metric time is implemented all of our time measurement troubles will be over

Excellent idea!

Happens to me all the time to get all confused when talking about "tomorrow" when it should technically be "later today".

I'd even selfishly advocate to move it up to 7am, because I'm too often still awake at 6, whereas 7 is probably the time I'm awake at least often of all.

But eh, 6am would be a start. *nods* :p

Excellent idea!

Happens to me all the time to get all confused when talking about "tomorrow" when it should technically be "later today".

I'd even selfishly advocate to move it up to 7am, because I'm too often still awake at 6, whereas 7 is probably the time I'm awake at least often of all.

But eh, 6am would be a start. *nods* :p

Better yet, switch noon and midnight. That how long I'd like to sleep, and the ensuing chaos would be fun.

I'd even selfishly advocate to move it up to 7am, because I'm too often still awake at 6, whereas 7 is probably the time I'm awake at least often of all.

Motion seconded :p

You know what? Screw it all!! Days are a tool of oppression! We always complain about not having enough time? You know why? Time is just an artificial constraint, we would be freer if we abolished it!! Should we allow ourselves to be oppressed by these clocks? NO!!! Should we allow ourselves to have our lives dictated to us by callendars? NO!!! Throw off these shackles brothers and sisters and join me in a timeless society for all to enjoy!:D

You know what? Screw it all!! Days are a tool of oppression! We always complain about not having enough time? You know why? Time is just an artificial constraint, we would be freer if we abolished it!! Should we allow ourselves to be oppressed by these clocks? NO!!! Should we allow ourselves to have our lives dictated to us by callendars? NO!!! Throw off these shackles brothers and sisters and join me in a timeless society for all to enjoy!:D

When will we revolte?

When will we revolte?
STOP USING THE TOOLS OF THE OPPRESSOR!!! We revolt! There is no when! There is only revolution!

Motion seconded :p Yay! :fluffle: :p

I can see the corperations now crying because they lost 6 hours of possible income for a day if this changeover ever happens

I can see the corperations now crying because they lost 6 hours of possible income for a day if this changeover ever happens
Hunh? How do they lose anything? They might be annoyed by having to change all of their clocks and scheduling but no time is removed. If we defined an hour as being 1/36 of a day that doesn't mean that corporations would be happier at getting about 4 more hours of everyone's time.

Why not Metric-ize time (http://zapatopi.net/metrictime/)? It's at least as stupid an idea as starting the day at 6 AM.

Why not Metric-ize time (http://zapatopi.net/metrictime/)? It's at least as stupid an idea as starting the day at 6 AM.

The only Metric (http://ilovemetric.com/music.html) I aprove of has a lead singer named Emily Haines. If we're going to Metric-ize time, let's name each 'hour' after each track on Old World Underground. (Damnit, I had to get up at half-past Wet Blanket this morning).

Interestingly enough the BBC officially start their day at 7:00 AM.

I think during the summer we should move to siester time.
Wake up really early in the morning,
work until midday
Take a short nap
Do some more work
Relax/ have dinner
Go to sleep
Repeat

and that really screws with any new years celebration.
but it gives you an excuse to party all night on new years eve, not just to midnight.

but it gives you an excuse to party all night on new years eve, not just to midnight.
Excuse me? Who stops partying at midnight, especially on New Years Day? That's when the whole fun with fireworks and stuff really starts. Drunks with fireworks! [That would make a perfect band-name!]

I say, let the day start at 00:00 and end at 24:00.

Instead of changing the time the day begins, better switch to the 24h system. And as for saying "tomorrow" after midnight and meaning that very day. Well, that's a mistake, 'cause it ain't tomorrow. You'll never reach tomorrow once the next day has started, because then it already is today. :D

Instead of changing the time the day begins, better switch to the 24h system. And as for saying "tomorrow" after midnight and meaning that very day. Well, that's a mistake, 'cause it ain't tomorrow. You'll never reach tomorrow once the next day has started, because then it already is today. :D

Maybe it's tomorrow...and maybe it's not...or maybe to some people, it's Friday night, and to others, it's Saturday morning. I used to keep really late hours ad I saw that all the time. I would actually eat breakfast right before going to bed.

Seriously, though, switching to military time is not a half-bad idea. I wouldn't mind getting off at 17:00 (though the drinker's cry "It's 5:00 somewhere" becomes almost insane, and "It's 1700 hours somewhere" will sound a little awkward for a while. But I'm a teetotaler, so I don't really give a damn.)

While we're at it, metric time sucks as it's written, but a metric calendar may be workable. Think about it - a three-digit date and a 10-day week. There would have to be some "unmarked" days, but that's fine with me. It's better than the insane system we have now.

I created a calendar for metric time. It starts at the Founding of Rome. Each week is ten days and is given a letter or number. Then, each day of the weeak is given a number from 0-9 (or 1-0, I can't remember). So a date might be I4 or Q7 or 33. The last five days of the year make up a New Year's Holiday, which everyone would get off if they wanted to, except essential workers. I laso figured leapyears and stuff like that and the most common one is every 34 years or so.

I created a calendar for metric time. It starts at the Founding of Rome. Each week is ten days and is given a letter or number. Then, each day of the weeak is given a number from 0-9 (or 1-0, I can't remember). So a date might be I4 or Q7 or 33. The last five days of the year make up a New Year's Holiday, which everyone would get off if they wanted to, except essential workers. I laso figured leapyears and stuff like that and the most common one is every 34 years or so.

That's workable as long as people want to count in base 36. I like it, though; my thought was a little different.

The year is split into four equal time periods, numbered 1, 2, 3, and 4. Billing cycles would take place three times within a "quarter." Each "quarter" is 90 days exactly, and it takes the first digit in the date. So in the first quarter, every date is "1XX". Within those quarters, each week has 10 days, so there are nine weeks to a quarter. Therefore, the first day of the first quarter is labeled "110." It's no harder labeling today as "326" than it is as "July 29th" or "7/29."

In a non-leap year, there would be three unmarked days at the starts of the season. They would simply be known as 1, 2, and 3. There would be two unmarked days at the end, labeled 4 and 5. In a leap year, day 6 becomes New Year's Eve. The rules on leap years still remain the same - every four years, none in years divisible by 100 unless they are also divisible by 400. Leap Day effectively becomes December 32nd for our purposes; February 29th, as we know it, becomes a relic, and those born on that day would celebrate on March 1st like they do most years. Those born on day 6 would probably celebrate it on day 5. Frankly, if I'm a doctor, I try to keep any kid from being born on that or any other holiday if I can.

The calendar would translate as follows:

New Year's Day = Day 1
January 4th = 110
St. Patrick's Day = 182
April 3rd = 199
April 4th = 210
May 25th = 261, likely observed as U.S. Memorial Day
July 1st = 298, observed as Canada Day
July 4th = 311, observed as American Independence Day
September 2nd = 371, likely observed as U.S. Labor Day
October 12th = 421, likely observed as Canada's Thanksgiving
November 11th = 452 (I had to put my birthday in here...too bad it's on the equivalent of a Tuesday every year)
December 25th = 495, observed as Christmas
December 30th = Day 4
December 31st = Day 5, New Year's Eve
In leap years, Leap Day = Day 6, New Year's Eve

In a week, Zero would be the equivalent of Sunday and Nine would be Saturday; it would be expected that those days would be weekend days. The other days of the week would be business days, but it would be expected that the average worker would be off on one of those days. A seven-day work week would not be seen as prohibitively overworked; rather, it would be a standard, much like the five-day week now. Weeks would be something like 56 hours, at least for work. Someone may work One, Two, Three, Four, Six, Seven, and Eight from 8:00 until 17:00. We can name the days if we feel like it or just use numbers or variants on numbers (hmmm...days named Null, Ace, Deuce, Trey, Quad, Fife, Hex, and probably a few other names for Seven, Eight, and Nine, hopefully all starting with different letters of the alphabet and all monosyllabic.)

but it gives you an excuse to party all night on new years eve, not just to midnight.
You can't make up your own excuse? I am more concerned about the very young and the old people that cannot possibly deal with any lack of sleep, not those who can party all night long anyway. Seriously, you really NEED any excuse to party all night long? I am ashamed.

That's too complicated. Mine pwns yours. :P

600 is quite early. Many people are still up at 600. Move it to something reasonable, like 1430.
Yeah and a 3 hour work day with an hour for lunch and 2 30 minute smoko breaks!:cool:

Yeah and a 3 hour work day with an hour for lunch and 2 30 minute smoko breaks!:cool:
Nah, we'd just work from 1600-2400. It's simple really.

Nice idea. But it would confuse the fuck out of me.