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Anti war protestor Ciny Sheehan is a worthless piece of trash. I cant even begin to tell you how utterly angry i am at her. She just recently bought 5 acers of land in Crawford, Texas (right next door to Bush's ranch) for the soul puprose of tormenting President Bush until he resigns. She used the money she got from insurance payments after her son's death in Iraq to fund her little buying spree. She is sickening and should be stopped.

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She was born here, therefore by definition American.

She can buy property wherever she likes. Do you also lament the spending of Old Money heirs because they profit from the deaths in their family? Or is it because she's an evil liberal?

Sadly, Cindy Sheehan is American...but she is also an attention whore.

You're right in one thing, it is her "soul" purpose. I suspect nothing will heal the wound the loss of her son has given her, or any of the parents and relatives of the soldiers and civilians killed in this least necessary of wars.

She was born here, therefore by definition American.

She can buy property wherever she likes. Do you also lament the spending of Old Money heirs because they profit from the deaths in their family? Or is it because she's an evil liberal?


She is using the money from her son's death to torment the president, hopefully to the extent that the man quits his job, and that is the only reason. If her son hadnt died she wouldnt have bought the land.

You're right in one thing, it is her "soul" purpose. I suspect nothing will heal the wound the loss of her son has given her, or any of the parents and relatives of the soldiers and civilians killed in this least necessary of wars.


but somehow tormenting the president is going to help her grieve?

Yay! The Cindy Sheehan Publicity Brigade bangs it's ironic drum keeping us a breast of her doings while shouting through bullhorns and pointing with large foamy fingers "LOOK! OVER THERE! SHE'S AN ATTENTION WHORE! HER, RIGHT THERE! LOOK!" "Let me tell you what she's done now..."

Bless you guys. Without your misplaced hysteria we'd never know what she was up to.

but somehow tormenting the president is going to help her grieve?
Seriously, does George Bush look like he cares what Cindy Sheehan thinks or does, unless someone tells him he should?

Sadly, Cindy Sheehan is American...but she is also an attention whore.
But wouldn't being an attention whore make her even more American?

You know, if you'd stop bringing her up all the time, she'd just fade away.

So stop bringing her up.

A "true" American believes in protest. That is the nature of an American. If you don't like the right to protest you can live in the most suppressive of dictatorships. Only is America and a very few others can anyone protest anything without being labeled "unAmerican. It is those that would deny that right that are truely UNAmerican.

But wouldn't being an attention whore make her even more American?

It's funny 'cause it's true. It's also hilarious, this supposition that not being USian is a bad thing, or some sort of insult.

Its gunna have no have no effect whatsoever, its pathetic. How much time does she think Bush actually spends at the raunch? Whats she gunna do when he actually is there? If she gets too loud police or secret service will be sent round to shut her up.

I'm sure there are much better ways that money could be spent.

... Bush until he resigns. She used the money...She is using the money ..., hopefully to the extent that the man quits his job, and that is the only reason. If her son hadnt died she wouldnt have bought the land.
Best investement ever!!

I am going to send her a couple hundred.. :D

A "true" American believes in protest. That is the nature of an American. If you don't like the right to protest you can live in the most suppressive of dictatorships. Only is America and a very few others can anyone protest anything without being labeled "unAmerican. It is those that would deny that right that are truely UNAmerican.


I dont know, france has always seemed more of a protesting nation. America, at least since vietnam has been largely conformist. yes it is in her right to protest but it is not in her right to torment.

Anti war protestor Ciny Sheehan is a worthless piece of trash. I cant even begin to tell you how utterly angry i am at her. She just recently bought 5 acers of land in Crawford, Texas (right next door to Bush's ranch) for the soul puprose of tormenting President Bush until he resigns. She used the money she got from insurance payments after her son's death in Iraq to fund her little buying spree. She is sickening and should be stopped.

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Stopped from doing what? Owning property? Get over it, dude.

She is sickening and should be stopped.



Yes. Let's just arrest every anti war protestor. That'll solve everything. :rolleyes:

She is using the money from her son's death to torment the president, hopefully to the extent that the man quits his job, and that is the only reason. If her son hadnt died she wouldnt have bought the land.
So what? It's her right to do so.

Yay! The Cindy Sheehan Publicity Brigade bangs it's ironic drum keeping us a breast of her doings while shouting through bullhorns and pointing with large foamy fingers "LOOK! OVER THERE! SHE'S AN ATTENTION WHORE! HER, RIGHT THERE! LOOK!" "Let me tell you what she's done now..."

Bless you guys. Without your misplaced hysteria we'd never know what she was up to.

Seconded. The Busheviks thrive on a persecution complex, even when they're in charge and this is just more of it.

Translation to everyone who posts these Sheehanwatch threads: Nobody in the world gives a shit what Cindy Sheehan is doing except You Comrade.

I dont know, france has always seemed more of a protesting nation. America, at least since vietnam has been largely conformist. yes it is in her right to protest but it is not in her right to torment.

Oh, poor president Bush, all "tormented." Forget those children who've died in his wars - he's got a woman "tormenting" him by voicing dissent! What a freakin' nightmare! Breakin' my heart.

Yay! The Cindy Sheehan Publicity Brigade bangs it's ironic drum keeping us a breast of her doings while shouting through bullhorns and pointing with large foamy fingers "LOOK! OVER THERE! SHE'S AN ATTENTION WHORE! HER, RIGHT THERE! LOOK!" "Let me tell you what she's done now..."

Bless you guys. Without your misplaced hysteria we'd never know what she was up to.
:D

You speak the truth. Seriously, I never read about her except here in General :)

Stopped from doing what? Owning property? Get over it, dude.


have you read the other posts, did you read the article, did you notice what she's using the land for? Thats what why should be stopped, her reasons for buying it. I couldnt care less if she bought it for farming.

Oh, poor president Bush, all "tormented." Forget those children who've died in his wars - he's got a woman "tormenting" him by voicing dissent! What a freakin' nightmare!
Well, now, from the way the Administration and the neo-cons talk, people disagreeing with them is torment (not to mention treason). Disagree with them and the terrorists win! 9/11!

Stopped from doing what? Owning property? Get over it, dude.
But she's not spending it on what he wants. Don't you have a er...a what is it called...a spleen? :(

Yes. Let's just arrest every anti war protestor. That'll solve everything. :rolleyes:

Yes, because according to NationStates Constitutional Expert Barrygoldwater, Dissent provides aid and comfort to the enemy and so it's TREASON.

Oh, poor president Bush, all "tormented." Forget those children who've died in his wars - he's got a woman "tormenting" him by voicing dissent! What a freakin' nightmare! Breakin' my heart.


oh so bush is tormenting our voulenteer army by sending them to do their job? your right, i must have been mistaken.



and dont try to play the "what do you know card," ive got a cousin there.

have you read the other posts, did you read the article, did you notice what she's using the land for? Thats what why should be stopped, her reasons for buying it. I couldnt care less if she bought it for farming.

Ok so you want to make it illegal to protest from her own private property?


Yay for conservatives and their small government convictions, now if you'll excuse me I need to go get the government to tell me who I can marry.

:D

You speak the truth. Seriously, I never read about her except here in General :)

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It's not like she's front page news anymore.

Since when has "You're not American" become an insult?

have you read the other posts, did you read the article, did you notice what she's using the land for? Thats what why should be stopped, her reasons for buying it. I couldnt care less if she bought it for farming.
I couldn't care less what she does with the property. She could start a combination abortion clinic/frozen yougurt restaurant for all I care. Just as long as she doesn't mistake the contense of the biohazard bucket for crushed strawberries in strawberry syrup it's all good.

Since when has "You're not American" become an insult?
It was briefly in the 1950s for seven minutes.

Ok so you want to make it illegal to protest from her own private property?


Yay for conservatives and their small government convictions, now if you'll excuse me I need to go get the government to tell me who I can marry.
Ask for me, too, will you? And I was thinking of stopping by the bokstore this weekend, if I give the list of titles, will you ask them to check it for me?

It was briefly in the 1950s for seven minutes.

If only good old god fearing Joseph McCarthy was in charge none of this would of ever happened!

oh so bush is tormenting our voulenteer army by sending them to do their job? your right, i must have been mistaken.

He's tormenting the children and other innocent people your volunteer army is killing. Yeah, forget about the casualties of war, having a dissenter is so much worse than being blown up - it's torment!

and dont try to play the "what do you know card," ive got a cousin there.

What, that's supposed to mean something?

Ok so you want to make it illegal to protest from her own private property?


Yay for conservatives and their small government convictions, now if you'll excuse me I need to go get the government to tell me who I can marry.


ok your not getting my point, i can tell. She has a right to protest, she has a right to buy land, but thats not what im saying. I am trying to say that the way she is going about her protest is completely insane. She could sign a petition, organize a march, but to move in next door and launch her liberal agenda on the man's doorstep is too mcuh.

ok your not getting my point, i can tell. She has a right to protest, she has a right to buy land, but thats not what im saying. I am trying to say that the way she is going about her protest is completely insane. She could sign a petition, organize a march, but to move in next door and launch her liberal agenda on the man's doorstep is too mcuh.

What you just figured out she's crazy? Welcome to a year ago. Jebus I knew you weren't particularly bright but I thought you a little faster on the uptake than that.

She could sign a petition, organize a march, but to move in next door and launch her liberal agenda on the man's doorstep is too mcuh.

Too much? It's hardly enough. That man deserves so, so much worse.

It was briefly in the 1950s for seven minutes.

What a time to be alive.

a combination abortion clinic/frozen yougurt restaurant

that's fucking brilliant - imagine the marketing campaigns

He's tormenting the children and other innocent people your volunteer army is killing.


the children, yes im sorry for the innocent children, truly i am. But there are some 10 year-olds running around with AK-47's trying to kill the troops, innocnet children have opted to strap themselves with C4 and walk into markets. So yes, i agree that there are innocent children out there who have unnecessary deaths, but half of the problem there now is being caused by the Iraqi's, not Bush.

that's fucking brilliant - imagine the marketing campaigns
not as good as a combination abortion clinic/sausage factory

Anti war protestor Ciny Sheehan is a worthless piece of trash. I cant even begin to tell you how utterly angry i am at her. She just recently bought 5 acers of land in Crawford, Texas (right next door to Bush's ranch) for the soul puprose of tormenting President Bush until he resigns. She used the money she got from insurance payments after her son's death in Iraq to fund her little buying spree. She is sickening and should be stopped.

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Did po' baby get his feeling hurt?

Grow up and get a grip

the children, yes im sorry for the innocent children, truly i am. But there are some 10 year-olds running around with AK-47's trying to kill the troops, innocnet children have opted to strap themselves with C4 and walk into markets. So yes, i agree that there are innocent children out there who have unnecessary deaths, but half of the problem there now is being caused by the Iraqi's, not Bush.

Let me ask you something. If a nation invaded your country, brought chaos, death and destruction would you stand back and lament that they're having such a hard time? I wouldn't. No patriot would.

So go ahead, lament our difficulties in Iraq, but don't you for a second demonize any actual Iraqis who don't want us there. They have good reason not to.

I hope I'm not the first person to point this out, but it's kind of hard to take the OP's patriotism seriously when he has a name like "Amadinijad"

but somehow tormenting the president is going to help her grieve?

Whatever works.

ok your not getting my point, i can tell. She has a right to protest, she has a right to buy land, but thats not what im saying. I am trying to say that the way she is going about her protest is completely insane. She could sign a petition, organize a march, but to move in next door and launch her liberal agenda on the man's doorstep is too mcuh.
I think she tried all those other approaches, and the response was some sort of ordinance to keep her farther away so as not to disturb the President while he was clearing brush on the ranch. Considering that the man spends more of his time in Crawford (or appears to) than he does attending to the nation's business this time of year, buying land nearby sounds like a plan.

But again, really, Bush is not losing a minute's sleep because Cindy Sheehan is now his neighbor. Not a minute.

Anti war protestor Ciny Sheehan is a worthless piece of trash. I cant even begin to tell you how utterly angry i am at her. She just recently bought 5 acers of land in Crawford, Texas (right next door to Bush's ranch) for the soul puprose of tormenting President Bush until he resigns. She used the money she got from insurance payments after her son's death in Iraq to fund her little buying spree. She is sickening and should be stopped.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14062166/:upyours: :upyours: :upyours:Exactly. The government must step in and prevent citizens from doing what they want with their money :rolleyes:

Let me ask you something. If a nation invaded your country, brought chaos, death and destruction would you stand back and lament that they're having such a hard time? I wouldn't. No patriot would.

So go ahead, lament our difficulties in Iraq, but don't you for a second demonize any actual Iraqis who don't want us there. They have good reason not to.

Plenty of reason, however, to demonize the ones who weren't Iraqi who came there to foment violence against both Iraqis and the US.

Especially those who kill civilians for sport and are trying to intentionally provoke a Sunni/Shia civil war.

Too much? It's hardly enough. That man deserves so, so much worse.


Jesus Christ! FOR WHAT? Will you people just stop for a minute and look at the situation as it was back in 2003. Honestly, the man went to war with iraq because THE WORLD, had agreed that saddam had WMDs. He went to war to protect people of a threat THE ENTIRE WOLRD deemed imminent. It was wrong, the world was wrong, its not like dictator Bush woke up one morning and decided to kill thousands. So what are you going to do, string him up?

OMG shes a genius!

That properties value shot up the minute she purchased it.

Not only is she giving us some hilarious entertainment by tormenting Bush she is making a killer investment on the govt.s dime at the same time.


PWND

Plenty of reason, however, to demonize the ones who weren't Iraqi who came there to foment violence against both Iraqis and the US.

Especially those who kill civilians for sport and are trying to intentionally provoke a Sunni/Shia civil war.

Absolutely, but his assertion that it's the Iraqi's fault that their people are dying is absurd and insulting.

Jesus Christ! FOR WHAT? Will you people just stop for a minute and look at the situation as it was back in 2003. Honestly, the man went to war with iraq because THE WORLD, had agreed that saddam had WMDs. He went to war to protect people of a threat THE ENTIRE WOLRD deemed imminent. It was wrong, the world was wrong, its not like dictator Bush woke up one morning and decided to kill thousands. So what are you going to do, string him up?

Lying, mass murder, grand theft, corruption, filching the public treasury, abridging our rights.

If all this scumbag gets is "tormented" by cindy sheehan, justice has left the world.

Are you of religious inclination? Just imagine the "torments" that await in the hereafter.

Let me ask you something. If a nation invaded your country, brought chaos, death and destruction would you stand back and lament that they're having such a hard time? I wouldn't. No patriot would.

So go ahead, lament our difficulties in Iraq, but don't you for a second demonize any actual Iraqis who don't want us there. They have good reason not to.


how many times do you have to say "lament?" i think ive got you at 3 now, but we'll see what happens as the post progresses.

Lying, mass murder, grand theft, corruption, filching the public treasury, abridging our rights.

If all this scumbag gets is "tormented" by cindy sheehan, justice has left the world.

Are you of religious inclination? Just imagine the "torments" that await in the hereafter.

Well, we can hope. Though you may recall that god told him to invade iraq.

Jesus Christ! FOR WHAT? Will you people just stop for a minute and look at the situation as it was back in 2003. Honestly, the man went to war with iraq because THE WORLD, had agreed that saddam had WMDs. He went to war to protect people of a threat THE ENTIRE WOLRD deemed imminent. It was wrong, the world was wrong, its not like dictator Bush woke up one morning and decided to kill thousands. So what are you going to do, string him up?
Yeah, the world thought he had WMD, but no, the world didn't deem him a threat. Only Bush and company did. Maybe not even them. They went in for purely ideological aims. Bring down Saddam and the middle east becomes democratic. Yeah right. Maybe they took him down in order to better play the Iranians and the Sunni nations against each other. Whatever. The fact is hardly anyone saw him as a threat.

Lying, mass murder, grand theft, corruption, filching the public treasury, abridging our rights.

If all this scumbag gets is "tormented" by cindy sheehan, justice has left the world.

Are you of religious inclination? Just imagine the "torments" that await in the hereafter.

That's just too funny to finish reading. I mean, the stretches you're having to make...

how many times do you have to say "lament?" i think ive got you at 3 now, but we'll see what happens as the post progresses.

I'm sowwy are da big words hurtin baby's head?

I shall endeavor to refrain from my polysyllabic tendencies, and furthermore to reign in my verbosity in an effort to render my prose more palatable to the less erudite amongst us.

Shes gonna love the property tax.

Lying, mass murder, grand theft, corruption, filching the public treasury, abridging our rights.

If all this scumbag gets is "tormented" by cindy sheehan, justice has left the world.

Are you of religious inclination? Just imagine the "torments" that await in the hereafter.


hmm maybe you would like to tell me where the situations where bush pulled out his trusty nuclear football and gave the order to launch nukes on his own people, when was the grand theft incident? I dont seem to remember that one, filching the public treasury too, ummm dont exactly remember that, corruption, um ok w/e.

all the stuff you just said there, didnt happen. So, i think what you need to do is stop pretending bush has done all this stuff. Ok, the man's fucked up, but what president doesnt. so, i would actually go and check your facts before you start making those kinds of false accusations, thats slander.

Jesus Christ! FOR WHAT? Will you people just stop for a minute and look at the situation as it was back in 2003. Honestly, the man went to war with iraq because THE WORLD, had agreed that saddam had WMDs. He went to war to protect people of a threat THE ENTIRE WOLRD deemed imminent. It was wrong, the world was wrong, its not like dictator Bush woke up one morning and decided to kill thousands. So what are you going to do, string him up?

Actually, most of world was going "umm, would you please be so kind as not to invade them on such flimsy grounds." Really, if France of all countries gets to tell you "I told you so," you fucked up big time. Bush deserves nothing but scorn and revilement.

I'm sowwy are da big words hurtin baby's head?

I shall endeavor to refrain from my polysyllabic tendencies, and furthermore to reign in my verbosity in an effort to render my prose more palatable to the less erudite amongst us.


ok go off on your little english rant, i was just trying to point out that you people who think your so smart really dont know anything but what comes out of websters.

Actually, most of world was going "umm, would you please be so kind as not to invade them on such flimsy grounds." Really, if France of all countries gets to tell you "I told you so," you fucked up big time. Bush deserves nothing but scorn and revilement.

France and Germany had a vested interest in keeping Saddam in power by way of the oil for food program and their lucrative contracts.

Of course Cheney, Bush et al had an interest in getting him out of power by laundering cash through Halliburton.

ok go off on your little english rant, i was just trying to point out that you people who think your so smart really dont know anything but what comes out of websters.

That's right only idiots use words with more than five letters. Plainly I'm a fucking moron.

Absolutely, but his assertion that it's the Iraqi's fault that their people are dying is absurd and insulting.


and show me the exact spot where i blamed the iraqi's for this situation.

That's right only idiots use words with more than five letters. Plainly I'm a fucking moron.


im glad you could figure that one out on your own.

the children, yes im sorry for the innocent children, truly i am. But there are some 10 year-olds running around with AK-47's trying to kill the troops, innocnet children have opted to strap themselves with C4 and walk into markets. So yes, i agree that there are innocent children out there who have unnecessary deaths, but half of the problem there now is being caused by the Iraqi's, not Bush.

Ask and you shall RECEIVE!

Anti war protestor Ciny Sheehan is a worthless piece of trash. I cant even begin to tell you how utterly angry i am at her. She just recently bought 5 acers of land in Crawford, Texas (right next door to Bush's ranch) for the soul puprose of tormenting President Bush until he resigns. She used the money she got from insurance payments after her son's death in Iraq to fund her little buying spree. She is sickening and should be stopped.

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good for her!

whats more american than putting your money where you mouth is?

if only she had a chance of suceeding in her quest to make bush resign. sigh

France and Germany had a vested interest in keeping Saddam in power by way of the oil for food program and their lucrative contracts.

So? Doesn't take away the least from the fact that they were right.

Of course Cheney, Bush et al had an interest in getting him out of power by laundering cash through Halliburton.

That and of course using war as distraction for their populace whom they like to use fear to subdue.

ok go off on your little english rant, i was just trying to point out that you people who think your so smart really dont know anything but what comes out of websters.
I don't really care what comes out of webster. That's kind of gross.

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Anti war protestor Ciny Sheehan is a worthless piece of trash. I cant even begin to tell you how utterly angry i am at her. She just recently bought 5 acers of land in Crawford, Texas (right next door to Bush's ranch) for the soul puprose of tormenting President Bush until he resigns. She used the money she got from insurance payments after her son's death in Iraq to fund her little buying spree. She is sickening and should be stopped.

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Yes, because we don't put up with political dissent in America. Our Founders clearly did not approve of uppity citizens who criticize the existing powerstructure, nor would they look kindly upon anybody who advocates radical or unpopular political ideologies.

*sarcasm generator explodes in a cloud of irony*

Actually, most of world was going "umm, would you please be so kind as not to invade them on such flimsy grounds." Really, if France of all countries gets to tell you "I told you so," you fucked up big time. Bush deserves nothing but scorn and revilement.


Russia, Israel, the UK, Saudi Arabia, the UN, France all had the same view that saddam was harboring WMDs. Some of them may have not supported the war, but they sure has hell believed that he had the weapons.

So? Doesn't take away the least from the fact that they were right.



That and of course using war as distraction for their populace whom they like to use fear to subdue.

It made their opinons rather suspect, and hindsight is 20/20. We knew he had WMD because we sold them to him and he couldn't account for a considerable portion. We figured he was hiding them from the UN (since no one listens to the UN). Not an unreasonable assumption given the details available to the public at the time. Though in retrospect I have no doubt Bush and company knew he probably didn't have any.

Russia, Israel, the UK, Saudi Arabia, the UN, France all had the same view that saddam was harboring WMDs. Some of them may have not supported the war, but they sure has hell believed that he had the weapons.
But none of them saw him as a threat. That's the thing. Lots of dusty little countries have WMD in the form of chemical or biological weapons, but as long as they don't pose a threat to real people, like Iraq didn't pose a threat, nobody cares.

dont you just love a debate? i mean seriously. whats better on a thursday afternoon then yelling idiotic remarks at someone you think is an utter dumbass?

It made their opinons rather suspect, and hindsight is 20/20. We knew he had WMD because we sold them to him and he couldn't account for a considerable portion. We figured he was hiding them from the UN (since no one listens to the UN). Not an unreasonable assumption given the details available to the public at the time. Though in retrospect I have no doubt Bush and company knew he probably didn't have any.

It doesn't help that Tenet said that it was a "slam dunk" that there were WMD. A President doesn't really have foreign sources of intelligence outside of the NSA, DIA, and CIA.

When the head of the CIA adamantly tells you there are WMD, what are you supposed to believe?

Of course, I know that the CIA couldn't tell you the baseball scores after the games were played, so maybe that question is rhetorical.

Russia, Israel, the UK, Saudi Arabia, the UN, France all had the same view that saddam was harboring WMDs. Some of them may have not supported the war, but they sure has hell believed that he had the weapons.

And none except the Idiotic leaders of the UK saw him as a threat, and several were actually pointing out to the US that the beliefs were flimsy indeed.

The war was wrong then, it is wrong now. Bush and his ilk deserve all the crap they get.

But none of them saw him as a threat. That's the thing. Lots of dusty little countries have WMD in the form of chemical or biological weapons, but as long as they don't pose a threat to real people, like Iraq didn't pose a threat, nobody cares.


He used them against his own people. i dont know what could be considered as more of a threat than that.

dont you just love a debate? i mean seriously. whats better on a thursday afternoon then yelling idiotic remarks at someone you think is an utter dumbass?

We don't think you're a dumbass. You've given ample proof that you are infact a dumbass. It is not an opinion.

Russia, Israel, the UK, Saudi Arabia, the UN, France all had the same view that saddam was harboring WMDs. Some of them may have not supported the war, but they sure has hell believed that he had the weapons.Believing he has weapons vs. believing he was going to use them are two seperate things. The UK was convinced that he wasn't more of a threat than before.

He used them against his own people. i dont know what could be considered as more of a threat than that.
You Iraqi?

Cindy Sheehan is more than a dissenter. She is the propaganda tool of a defamation machine who's only interest is to damage the security of the United States. She has called the President a liar without evidence. She has made outragous statements about Israel and our role in causing civilian casualties in Iraq. She has more criticism for George Bush then for Saddam Hussein. She has more criticism for our tactics than the tactics of Al-queda. She claims to be acting on behalf of her son but has neglected his grave while she parades around the country grandstanding. Her son was a volunteer, he went to war and got killed. Now she wants us to pull out and make everything that all of the soldiers fought for have been in vain.

Anti war protestor Ciny Sheehan is a worthless piece of trash.
Oh Jesus, not this shit again.

Cindy Sheehan is more than a dissenter. She is the propaganda tool of a defamation machine who's only interest is to damage the security of the United States.
Why would any American wish to damage the security of his or her own country?

He used them against his own people. i dont know what could be considered as more of a threat than that.
Right, he used them against his own people, who don't really matter to the US or Europe. He wouldn't have dared use them on a nation that could kick the crap out of his. He wasn't a threat to us.

And don't tell me that foreign lives matter. If they did we'd be invading Sudan and China would be politically and economically isolated for it's trade in human organs harvested from people who's only crime is having the wrong religion.

We don't think you're a dumbass. You've given ample proof that you are infact a dumbass. It is not an opinion.


thats what i get for trying to be civil. sad world we live in.

You Iraqi?
No he's not, but he's obviously aware that Saddam would of used his extensive (non-existant) connections to Al-Qaeda to dissemenate chemical and biological weapons to terrorists which would posssibly, at some point in the future, assuming those idiots didnt kill themselves with them, maybe end up being used against American citizens.

It made their opinons rather suspect, and hindsight is 20/20.

Their foresight proved to be 20/20, too, and their opinions were not nearly as suspect as those of the shit heads ruling the US.

We knew he had WMD because we sold them to him and he couldn't account for a considerable portion. We figured he was hiding them from the UN (since no one listens to the UN). Not an unreasonable assumption given the details available to the public at the time. Though in retrospect I have no doubt Bush and company knew he probably didn't have any.

He didn't even care seeing as he was gunning for Iraq no matter what. All the war is is a projection of power by a belligerent nation who wishes to subdue others and look out for number one. At least admit that, and don't give me the "oooh, they had a noble goal" bull.

Why would any American wish to damage the security of his or her own country?

She is not doing it on purpose. She is just not very bright. Read my last post again. ( have you ever heard her speak too? What is she on?)

Cindy Sheehan is more than a dissenter. She is the propaganda tool of a defamation machine who's only interest is to damage the security of the United States. She has called the President a liar without evidence. She has made outragous statements about Israel and our role in causing civilian casualties in Iraq. She has more criticism for George Bush then for Saddam Hussein. She has more criticism for our tactics than the tactics of Al-queda. She claims to be acting on behalf of her son but has neglected his grave while she parades around the country grandstanding. Her son was a volunteer, he went to war and got killed. Now she wants us to pull out and make everything that all of the soldiers fought for have been in vain.Hate to break it to you, but just about anything that attempts to convince you of something is propaganda in some form or other: Commercials, ads, editorials, protesters, State of the Union Addresses...

Why would any American wish to damage the security of his or her own country?


well it goes back to the title of this wonderful little thread. she's not an american. well she is, she was born here, but she doesnt deserve the title.

make everything that all of the soldiers fought for have been in vain.

Everything they fought for is in vain.

Right, he used them against his own people, who don't really matter to the US or Europe. He wouldn't have dared use them on a nation that could kick the crap out of his. He wasn't a threat to us.

And don't tell me that foreign lives matter. If they did we'd be invading Sudan and China would be politically and economically isolated for it's trade in human organs harvested from people who's only crime is having the wrong religion.

He violated U.N. resolution after U.N. resolution and the U.N. ( as usual) did not have the balls to stand up to him.

Hate to break it to you, but just about anything that attempts to convince you of something is propaganda in some form or other: Commercials, ads, editorials, protesters, State of the Union Addresses...


switching sides for a minute... im going to hafta agree with you on this one. shit, the declaration of independence was propaganda.

ok, going back to neocon mode.

Yay! The Cindy Sheehan Publicity Brigade bangs it's ironic drum keeping us a breast of her doings while shouting through bullhorns and pointing with large foamy fingers "LOOK! OVER THERE! SHE'S AN ATTENTION WHORE! HER, RIGHT THERE! LOOK!" "Let me tell you what she's done now..."

Bless you guys. Without your misplaced hysteria we'd never know what she was up to.

YAY! :D

He violated U.N. resolution after U.N. resolution and the U.N. ( as usual) did not have the balls to stand up to him.


BAM...thank you!

He didn't even care seeing as he was gunning for Iraq no matter what. All the war is is a projection of power by a belligerent nation who wishes to subdue others and look out for number one. At least admit that, and don't give me the "oooh, they had a noble goal" bull.


I don't think so. I think it was more about cleaning up a Neo-con mess. Remember Rumsfeld was Saddam's bestest buddy a couple decades back. Bush Sr's administration gave approval for Saddam to invade Kuwait and then turned on Saddam. Why do that? Saddam was no longer of value to them or the US. His country however is. So we weakened him, tried to get a couple revolutions to go off without success. Bush decided to use the best excuse that's come along since to oust him from power.

Saddam went from being our pet to our enemy to our prisoner. Because he ceased to be useful to us.

thats what i get for trying to be civil. sad world we live in.
No, it is not the world. Its the lefties on this thread. If all else fails they will deny your terms, your facts, and your intelligence in a desperate attempt to prove they have not been bested. It is a tactic..and a poor one at that. I have seen it again and again.

He violated U.N. resolution after U.N. resolution and the U.N. ( as usual) did not have the balls to stand up to him.

Israel violates resolution after resolution after resolution. China does. The US does. And so on. That's no reason to invade them or any country without UN approval - approval the US and its little gang did not have.

He violated U.N. resolution after U.N. resolution and the U.N. ( as usual) did not have the balls to stand up to him.

So does North Korea, so does Lebanon, so does Israel, so does China, so do we when it suits us. Come up with a decent reason please?

You may or not like Cindy Sheehan and what she is doing, or what her message is. However, as an American, she has every right to express her views as long as they do not result in commiting a crime. Purchasing land next door to the President is perfectly legal, and her message is legal as well.

To say she does not have the right to express this is stepping on the fundamental rights that America was built on. You dont have to like to message or messanger, but as an American you have a right to speak it. To you say you dont, or try to censor that is more un-american than what she is doing. I always thought we had this little thing called freedom of speech and expression in the constitution, has that changed?

I don't think so. I think it was more about cleaning up a Neo-con mess. Remember Rumsfeld was Saddam's bestest buddy a couple decades back. Bush Sr's administration gave approval for Saddam to invade Kuwait and then turned on Saddam. Why do that? Saddam was no longer of value to them or the US. His country however is. So we weakened him, tried to get a couple revolutions to go off without success. Bush decided to use the best excuse that's come along since to oust him from power.

Saddam went from being our pet to our enemy to our prisoner. Because he ceased to be useful to us.

So, basically "all the war is is a projection of power by a belligerent nation who wishes to subdue others and look out for number one."

You Iraqi?


nope, south carolinian.

He violated U.N. resolution after U.N. resolution and the U.N. ( as usual) did not have the balls to stand up to him.
Fuck the UN. Nobody pays attention to them. Shit, I'm sure the US has violated a few UN resolutions. The UN is full of shit. Look at all the resolutions it has against Israel. If violating it's resolutions is grounds for a US invasion we'd be fighting the IDF, and I certainly don't want that.

Fact is Saddam was a usefull attack dog against Iran, but Bush took him out back and shot him. Now Iran thinks it can just jump the fence into our yard and mess around in our sandbox (the middle east) anytime it wants.

Their foresight proved to be 20/20, too, and their opinions were not nearly as suspect as those of the shit heads ruling the US.

He didn't even care seeing as he was gunning for Iraq no matter what. All the war is is a projection of power by a belligerent nation who wishes to subdue others and look out for number one. At least admit that, and don't give me the "oooh, they had a noble goal" bull.

I see the level of debate has been elevated once again by a far left person. let me respond on your level......UGH, UGH.....WAR GOOD, SADDAM BAD

He used them against his own people. i dont know what could be considered as more of a threat than that.

Checks map ...

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h224/Snoo_Snoo/World.gif

Nope! Not a threat.

Yay! The Cindy Sheehan Publicity Brigade bangs it's ironic drum keeping us a breast of her doings while shouting through bullhorns and pointing with large foamy fingers "LOOK! OVER THERE! SHE'S AN ATTENTION WHORE! HER, RIGHT THERE! LOOK!" "Let me tell you what she's done now..."

Bless you guys. Without your misplaced hysteria we'd never know what she was up to.
That's another new computer monitor you owe me for.

Honestly, can't you just quit making me spit my soda all over the place? :D

nope, south carolinian.
Well then, not a threat to you was he.

Hate to break it to you, but just about anything that attempts to convince you of something is propaganda in some form or other: Commercials, ads, editorials, protesters, State of the Union Addresses...

Very true. I agree. The difference is the following:

Commercials try to get you to buy a product
ads try to get your to buy a product
editorials try to convince you of an opinion
protests try to change your mind
the State of the Union lays out policy for the coming year

Cindy Sheehan's hateful rants are sponsered by a billion dollar strong smear merchent ring who want to see the war effort undermined for political reasons. Ever heard of George soros?

I see the level of debate has been elevated once again by a far left person.

Coming from you of all people, that's hilarious in how it reflects on you.

So does North Korea, so does Lebanon, so does Israel, so does China, so do we when it suits us. Come up with a decent reason please?

you forgot Iran.

ummm, what other reason do you want, he violated international law, and apparently posed an imminent threat to world security. As far as i can tell violating UN resolutions while apparently gearing up for is a good enough reason for war.

Actually i may not like it, but its probably going to happen with N. Korea and Iran in the next 5 or so years. so my buddy barrygoldwater has a pretty good reason.

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Cindy Sheehan's hateful rants are sponsered by a billion dollar strong smear merchent ring who want to see the war effort undermined for political reasons. Ever heard of George soros?
Want to talk about a smear ring? Look up Richard Mellon Scaife. The Republicans give alot harder than they get from Soros.

and apparently posed an imminent threat to world security.

No, he did not.

you forgot Iran.

ummm, what other reason do you want, he violated international law, and apparently posed an imminent threat to world security. As far as i can tell violating UN resolutions while apparently gearing up for is a good enough reason for war.

Actually i may not like it, but its probably going to happen with N. Korea and Iran in the next 5 or so years. so my buddy barrygoldwater has a pretty good reason.

I wasn't about to list every nation that's ever violated a UN resolution, I haven't the time, nor an atlas. Just nations that have done it that we're not ever going to attack.

Well then, not a threat to you was he.


depends on how you interpret the intelligence from what was then the most credible source in the modern world. and that intelligence said WMDs were a, "Slam Dunk." Which generally can only be interpreted one way, and that is that it was a threat to me.

Want to talk about a smear ring? Look up Richard Mellon Scaife. The Republicans give alot harder than they get from Soros.

Saw on Fox news yesterday or day before how Soros was funding international terrorism.

No, he did not.


actually the "apparently" was there to mean that at the time the intelligence strongly supported that he had them. apparently was there to back up my statement but also to show that he infact did not have the weapons.

No, he did not.

I think he did pose a threat to the world of fashion.

http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2004-07/13262411.jpg

That tie and that hat? Eww.

I don't think so. I think it was more about cleaning up a Neo-con mess. Remember Rumsfeld was Saddam's bestest buddy a couple decades back. Bush Sr's administration gave approval for Saddam to invade Kuwait and then turned on Saddam. Why do that? Saddam was no longer of value to them or the US. His country however is. So we weakened him, tried to get a couple revolutions to go off without success. Bush decided to use the best excuse that's come along since to oust him from power.

Saddam went from being our pet to our enemy to our prisoner. Because he ceased to be useful to us.

Ah, you feel for the defamation machine's line. Do you know when Rumsfeld met Hussein? When he was Reagan's ambassador for mid-east arms control. Look it up. Where are your sources that the Bush administration cleared Hussein to invade Kuwait ( remember it must be a credible source of any kind)? Lets see.......when Bush the second came into office offical U.S. policy had been regime change in Iraq since a bill that Bill Clinton signed in 1998......Numerous U.N. resolutions were being broken by Iraq, and the cease fire from 1991 was being broken. We had every right to destroy his government and replace it with a Democracy, which, no thanks to the left, was what went down.

depends on how you interpret the intelligence from what was then the most credible source in the modern world.

It was not the "most credible source in the modern world." It's never been.

depends on how you interpret the intelligence from what was then the most credible source in the modern world. and that intelligence said WMDs were a, "Slam Dunk." Which generally can only be interpreted one way, and that is that it was a threat to me.


Don't confuse most highly paid with most credible. The CIA couldn't find shoes in a shoe box. Don't you wonder why there's not more of a fuss about Bush's wiretapping? Hell Osama could be standing in the middle of times square with a huge metal box labeled "NUKE" and the CIA/NSA/FBI wouldn't find out for five years.

I dont know, france has always seemed more of a protesting nation. America, at least since vietnam has been largely conformist. yes it is in her right to protest but it is not in her right to torment.
The French are the masters of protest, as their nation is founded on similar values to those of the USA.

Stopped from doing what? Owning property? Get over it, dude.
*insert communist slogan*

oh so bush is tormenting our voulenteer army by sending them to do their job? your right, i must have been mistaken.

CIVILIANS DIE IN WARS you moron.

the children, yes im sorry for the innocent children, truly i am.
Then repent and promise never to do this again. If you're sorry that civvies die in wars, then guess what. Don't launch gratuitous wars.

I really have to go now but I am sure that my brilliant counter part from Iran ( hehe) can more than handle you guys.:p

Don't confuse most highly paid with most credible. The CIA couldn't find shoes in a shoe box. Don't you wonder why there's not more of a fuss about Bush's wiretapping? Hell Osama could be standing in the middle of times square with a huge metal box labeled "NUKE" and the CIA/NSA/FBI wouldn't find out for five years.

I would sadly have to agree....altho I think the NY populice would take care of things better if that were the case ;)

Saw on Fox news yesterday or day before how Soros was funding international terrorism.
Nice. You know, I could tie almost any American in to international terrorism. It just takes some creative spin. Own stocks in GM? You're investing in a company that ensures US funds will be funneled to the middle east through Saudi princes into the hands of Al Qaeda.

You're right in one thing, it is her "soul" purpose. I suspect nothing will heal the wound the loss of her son has given her, or any of the parents and relatives of the soldiers and civilians killed in this least necessary of wars.
Speaking from experience, yes, there is something that will heal that wound. It's called time. Fucking drama-queens... :fluffle:

I think he did pose a threat to the world of fashion.

http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2004-07/13262411.jpg

That tie and that hat? Eww.

At least Saddam had some flair. Bush's "style," and I use the term loosely seeing as he has none, just exudes "mediocre loser."

Checks map ...

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h224/Snoo_Snoo/World.gif

Nope! Not a threat.

ok ok ok, i know you just dissed me, but ive gotta hand it to you, that was good.

At least Saddam had some flair. Bush's "style," and I use the term loosely seeing as he has none, just exudes "mediocre loser."

That's true and, in his defense (Saddam's), he did buy a really nice suit for court.

ok ok ok, i know you just dissed me, but ive gotta hand it to you, that was good.

Hehe ... that actually took me 4 whole minutes. The 'S' in 'Saddam' kept coming out funny looking.

Again, since when did it become un-american to voice your opinion? I thought that is part of what makes American the country it is. You dont have to agree but its her right period. You dont like it, dont listen to it.

but somehow tormenting the president is going to help her grieve?
She wants Bush to suffer like she does of course. It's Revenge, she holds Bush at fault and she'll make sure he doesn't have a moments peace because of it.

That's true and, in his defense (Saddam's), he did buy a really nice suit for court.
He and his top aids all bought their suits from a tailor in Turkey. The guy's got the measurements of the entire former Iraqi government on file.

BTW, I don't think he bought that suit. I think the tailor sent him a couple as a gift on finding out he'd been captured.

She wants Bush to suffer like she does of course.

She should shoot Jenna and not tell anyone why.

That's true and, in his defense (Saddam's), he did buy a really nice suit for court.

Yeah, and the beard has been very in these past seasons, this one particularly. At least he tries, because that means he sometimes does succeed.

He and his top aids all bought their suits from a tailor in Turkey. The guy's got the measurements of the entire former Iraqi government on file.

Wow ... I wonder what that would go for on eBay ...

That's true and, in his defense (Saddam's), he did buy a really nice suit for court.


you know, for his situation, your right. its too bad he need to get it taken down a few inches after that nasty little eating dissorder.

Ah, you feel for the defamation machine's line. Do you know when Rumsfeld met Hussein? When he was Reagan's ambassador for mid-east arms control. Look it up. Where are your sources that the Bush administration cleared Hussein to invade Kuwait ( remember it must be a credible source of any kind)? Lets see.......when Bush the second came into office offical U.S. policy had been regime change in Iraq since a bill that Bill Clinton signed in 1998......Numerous U.N. resolutions were being broken by Iraq, and the cease fire from 1991 was being broken. We had every right to destroy his government and replace it with a Democracy, which, no thanks to the left, was what went down.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein#Tensions_with_Kuwait

You deny we funded his wars? Do you deny our refusal to forbid the invasion was equivalent to tacit approval? Do you ignore that his usefulness ran out about the same time the Soviet Union collapsed? Do you deny that we sold him chemical and biological weapons?

Yeah, and the beard has been very in these past seasons, this one particularly. At least he tries, because that means he sometimes does succeed.

Oh the beard is kickin'! I'm thinkin' he's never looked better. Would be a shame to execute him.

At least Saddam had some flair. Bush's "style," and I use the term loosely seeing as he has none, just exudes "mediocre loser."

"flair" thats great.

President Bush is exceptionally well dressed. "mediocre loser"? Now your a fashion critic?

If Bush wore what saddam was wearing in that pic, you'd criticize him for that.
Dont lose any more credibility.

She should shoot Jenna and not tell anyone why.

actually she should use the excuse that Jenna was a terrorist threat and that the evidence she has is a slam dunk.

At least Saddam had some flair. Bush's "style," and I use the term loosely seeing as he has none, just exudes "mediocre loser."
It's the frat-boy smirk that irks me more than anything.

Given everything he knew or didn't know in 2003, before the invasion, assuming he was honestly and genuinely convinced that Saddam Hussein was about to launch an attack on the United States or about to enable al-Qaeda to do so, given all that ... you'd think that now, after we know the reasons that everyone believed in good faith aren't true, we might hear something along the lines of an admission that we were mistaken. An adult makes mistakes and owns up to them, a child denies the mistake and tries to blame it on someone else. All we hear from this Administration ... well, what I hear is John Lovitz's "liar" character ... "WMDs ... yeah ... no, wait, spreading democracy in the Middle East, yeah, that's the ticket ..."

Is it 2008 yet?

It's not like she's front page news anymore.
Ah. So therefore her detracters have to mention her everytime she breathes. Got it ;)

actually she should use the excuse that Jenna was a terrorist threat and that the evidence she has is a slam dunk.

Now *that* would make great television!

Oh the beard is kickin'! I'm thinkin' he's never looked better.

Yeah, the moustache alone was getting stale and just screaming "I think it's still the 70s and I'd like to do some low-qual analingus porn."

Would be a shame to execute him.

Shame, human rights violation, it's all bad.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein#Tensions_with_Kuwait

You deny we funded his wars? Do you deny our refusal to forbid the invasion was equivalent to tacit approval? Do you ignore that his usefulness ran out about the same time the Soviet Union collapsed? Do you deny that we sold him chemical and biological weapons?


of course... Barry ignores and denys all facts that he doesnt like.

Yeah, the moustache alone was getting stale and just screaming "I think it's still the 70s and I'd like to do some low-qual analingus porn."



Shame, human rights violation, it's all bad.
Mustaches are coming back in style.

Yeah, the moustache alone was getting stale and just screaming "I think it's still the 70s and I'd like to do some low-qual analingus porn."


Ugh I know. *shudder* No man should wear just a 'stache.


Shame, human rights violation, it's all bad.

Aye. What I think would be the ultimate in irony would be to give him life in prison and while he's there, he writes a book that goes to #1 and he makes billions.

Imagine the frothing at the mouth over that one. Pure entertainment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein#Tensions_with_Kuwait

You deny we funded his wars? Do you deny our refusal to forbid the invasion was equivalent to tacit approval? Do you ignore that his usefulness ran out about the same time the Soviet Union collapsed? Do you deny that we sold him chemical and biological weapons?


We all know the huge mistake we made in selling Iraq arms during the Iraq Iran war. AND, actually saddam invaded kuwait before the soviet union was dissolved.

She is using the money from her son's death to torment the president, hopefully to the extent that the man quits his job, and that is the only reason. If her son hadnt died she wouldnt have bought the land.
I find it amusing that you feel "protesting the war in Iraq" is "tormenting the president".

Since when has "You're not American" become an insult?
Only in the United States.

Jesus Christ! FOR WHAT? Will you people just stop for a minute and look at the situation as it was back in 2003. Honestly, the man went to war with iraq because THE WORLD, had agreed that saddam had WMDs. He went to war to protect people of a threat THE ENTIRE WOLRD deemed imminent. It was wrong, the world was wrong, its not like dictator Bush woke up one morning and decided to kill thousands. So what are you going to do, string him up?
I remember the world believing he didn't have WMDs and thinking Bush was trying to finish the war his father started.

Cindy Sheehan's hateful rants are sponsered by a billion dollar strong smear merchent ring who want to see the war effort undermined for political reasons. Ever heard of George soros?
Nope.

[url] Do you deny that we sold him
chemical and biological weapons?

We didn't sell him chemical weapons. I posted the links yesterday. The last Sarin production in the US was 1970, and the stuff is just not shelf stable. UK Porton Down tests on the shells used at Halabja show Sarin reaction byproducts. German companies were implicated in the provision of feedstocks and machinery necessary to produce Sarin in Iraq.

Try again.

If allowing him access to university collections of biologicals (as we allowed nearly every country prior to 9-11) is "selling biological weapons" then not only is the US guilty of trafficking in "biological weapons", but many major universities in many major countries are guilty as well.

*Blah blah blah*
We had every right to destroy his government and replace it with a Democracy, which, no thanks to the left, was what went down.
Yeah... That's it. Blame Phillip!

*Shakes fist at Philip Slater*
SLAAAAAATEEEEEERR!!!

Now *that* would make great television!

well if someone says its a slam dunk and shows blurry pictures of "mobile chemical weapons factories" that "proves" it, then it HAS to be credible.

why would anyone make up something like that?

George Soros is a multi-billionaire who contributes heavily to the Democratic Party. He's a favored target of the right wingers because he has the gall to spend money on their opponents.

President Bush is exceptionally well dressed. "mediocre loser"?

If by "exceptionally well dressed" you mean "stuck in a rut that not even Angelina Jolie can match," then sure. And, yes, very, very mediocre loser. The sort of loser that fails when not even trying to assemble a wardrobe.

Now your a fashion critic?

You apparently aren't.

well if someone says its a slam dunk and shows blurry pictures of "mobile chemical weapons factories" that "proves" it, then it HAS to be credible.

why would anyone make up something like that?
Still talking about Jenna? Personally I think the congress should pass a law opening their environmentally sensitive wetlands for public drilling.

She is not doing it on purpose. She is just not very bright. Read my last post again. ( have you ever heard her speak too? What is she on?)
I know she's not bright.
She is the propaganda tool of a defamation machine who's only interest is to damage the security of the United States.
If someone has an interest in a goal, then yes they are deliberately working towards it.

Point is, there is no American machine or group, on the left at least*, that is deliberately trying to damage the nation's security.


*I almost forgot Fred Phelps (http://www.godhatesamerica.com/)

well she is, she was born here, but she doesnt deserve the title.
"American" isn't a honorary title.

She does not wish to damage national security. That would be suicidal.

He violated U.N. resolution after U.N. resolution and the U.N. ( as usual) did not have the balls to stand up to him.
All they did was pass resolutions against him. The UN can't do any more than that unless the member states will it.

switching sides for a minute... im going to hafta agree with you on this one. shit, the declaration of independence was propaganda.
ok, going back to neocon mode.
wtf? is your country so polarised that even agreeing with an opponent on a minor point is "switching sides"?

I see the level of debate has been elevated once again by a far left person. let me respond on your level......UGH, UGH.....WAR GOOD, SADDAM BAD
Way to bury your head in the sand. Why respond to Baguetten's arguments when you can flame, huh?

why would anyone make up something like that?

I dunno ... but I bet it'll all be in Saddam's book.

Bush's father was smart enought to not invade Iraq because he knew this kind of thing (ie the civil strife/war) may happen. He was told by his advisors to stop after liberating Kuwait and he did. Bush Sr's cabinet knew better than to go into Iraq.Obviously Jr didnt take the same heed.

Mustaches are coming back in style.

No. Just no. They're still as stupid as they ever were. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise - they just want you to make a fool of yourself.

Still talking about Jenna? Personally I think the congress should pass a law opening their wetlands for public drilling.

Well whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

I don't even know what I mean

Ugh I know. *shudder* No man should wear just a 'stache.

No woman, either.

Aye. What I think would be the ultimate in irony would be to give him life in prison and while he's there, he writes a book that goes to #1 and he makes billions. Imagine the frothing at the mouth over that one. Pure entertainment.

Hmm, my liberal heart would only allow me a momentary lapse of judgement before I demanded the book money be funnelled into charities and restitutions.

No. Just no. They're still as stupid as they ever were. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise - they just want you to make a fool of yourself.
Been "making a fool of myself" since I was 15 then. Started with the Fu Manchu mustache, now just a plain mustache with a soul patch.

Why respond to Baguetten's arguments when you can flame, huh?
It did occur to me that this thread was flame-bait from the start, but it was sort like an accident on the side of the road, you berate yourself for looking but you can't help it.

well people, i know you're going to hate it, but im leaving.

and to all the enemies i made today, i would like to leave you with this: :upyours:

...until next time.

well people, i know you're going to hate it, but im leaving.

and to all the enemies i made today, i would like to leave you with this: :upyours:

...until next time.
What a swell guy.

If by "exceptionally well dressed" you mean "stuck in a rut that not even Angelina Jolie can match," then sure. And, yes, very, very mediocre loser. The sort of loser that fails when not even trying to assemble a wardrobe.



You apparently aren't.


He's the Presdient of The United States- he wears well tailored,conservative, suits. I wouldnt expect him to dress any other way while he holds office.

I'm sure you'd like him more if he dressed like Elton John, buts its not going to happen.

And no-I'm no fashion critic,I'd never aspire to be such a useless low-life.
I am well dressed,however-totally secure and always appropriate with my choices.

She wants Bush to suffer like she does of course. It's Revenge, she holds Bush at fault and she'll make sure he doesn't have a moments peace because of it.
But everyone should know by now Bush dosn't actually make any decisions. He's just the face the decision makers show the public. And lets face it, they can't make decisions worth a damn, because that wasn't exactly the prettiest face.

well people, i know you're going to hate it, but im leaving.

and to all the enemies i made today, i would like to leave you with this: :upyours:

...until next time.

How to make friends and influence people. ^

What a swell guy.


i know, dont you just love me?

What a swell guy.
I have to admit, he helped my afternoon go by a little quicker.

Been "making a fool of myself" since I was 15 then.

Oh, you poor thing.

Started with the Fu Manchu mustache, now just a plain mustache with a soul patch.

Those aren't the kind of moustache we were talking about "just a 'stache," but they're still kinda tacky.

Bush's father was smart enought to not invade Iraq because he knew this kind of thing (ie the civil strife/war) may happen. He was told by his advisors to stop after liberating Kuwait and he did. Bush Sr's cabinet knew better than to go into Iraq.Obviously Jr didnt take the same heed.

Well heres the thing.....the resolution to liberate Kuwait only passed the Senate 52-48. It was obvious that political will to finish the job simply did not exist in 1991 with all of those Democrats in power. It was not until 1998, after 7 years of broken ceasfire and broken U.N. resolutions, that President Clinton officialy made regime change our policy in Iraq by signing a bill that overwhelmingly passed the Senate. in 2003 we did invade with the purpose of regime change, after it had been proven that political will was there to do so in the United States. One more think, calling President Bush "Jr" is not accurate as his name is not a duplicate of his father's.

Oh, you poor thing.



Those aren't the kind of moustache we were talking about "just a 'stache," but they're still kinda tacky.
They serve me well. Some criminals think I'm a cop becaue I wear them. Then again, every cop I've met thinks I'm a criminal, but that could be for other reasons.

He's the Presdient of The United States- he wears well tailored,conservative, suits.

That's a euphemism for "he looks like his geriatric mother (and, mind, you, Barbara is the blandest of bland stuck in a time warp that's gone a few circles 'round the singularity all on her own) dressed him."

And no-I'm no fashion critic

You don't say! Shocked, I am! Shocked and dismayed!

They serve me well. Some criminals think I'm a cop becaue I wear them. Then again, every cop I've met thinks I'm a criminal, but that could be for other reasons.

You should do fetish porn, lest it be horrible to see that duality go to waste.

You post on a thread about Cindy Sheehan. People disagree with you. You call them dumb. They leave. One comes back and finds you talking about suits, mustashes, and fetishes instead of the idiot whom the thread is about. That is telling.:D

well people, i know you're going to hate it, but im leaving.

and to all the enemies i made today, i would like to leave you with this: :upyours:

...until next time.
Careful what you say, or I'll invade your country and nuke Tehran.

That's a euphemism for "he looks like his geriatric mother (and, mind, you, Barbara is the blandest of bland stuck in a time warp that's gone a few circles 'round the singularity all on her own) dressed him."



You don't say! Shocked, I am! Shocked and dismayed!


You can cool down your pompous-twat impersonation.

I'll still tolerate you no matter how hard you try.

Careful what you say, or I'll invade your country and nuke Tehran.

Yes, that is one good way to pull out of Iraq.

You should do fetish porn, lest it be horrible to see that duality go to waste.
I'd rather play a role in a low-budget cop or gangster movie, but thanks anyway.

You post on a thread about Cindy Sheehan. People disagree with you. You call them dumb. They leave. One comes back and finds you talking about suits, mustashes, and fetishes instead of the idiot whom the thread is about. That is telling.:D
Yes, it tells us that the only people who care about Cindy Sheehan are the fire-breathing extreme right-wing people who hate her.

Yes, it tells us that the only people who care about Cindy Sheehan are the fire-breathing extreme right-wing people who hate her.

which means you just said that her own "supporters" do not care about her. They want to use her. This is what I have been saying all along. Why did we have to debate it?

You can cool down your pompous-twat impersonation.

I'd ask you to cool down your lack of personality, but that's asking a lot.

I'll still tolerate you no matter how hard you try.

I'll still keep forgetting who you are, so it evens out.

Been "making a fool of myself" since I was 15 then. Started with the Fu Manchu mustache, now just a plain mustache with a soul patch.
I have a full goatee. Mustaches can be sexy if they're with a soul patch or some kind of beard, but I can't condone them otherwise.

Careful what you say, or I'll invade your country and nuke Tehran.


PLEASE, go ahead. I hate Iran and amadenijad, i just needed the name so my region looked better.

I'd rather play a role in a low-budget cop or gangster movie, but thanks anyway.

See, you're wasting it!

And nobody ever mentioned the point of the thread again.

I'd ask you to cool down your lack of personality, but that's asking a lot.



I'll still keep forgetting who you are, so it evens out.


You've nothing to base that on, my sour friend. We dont agree, so I have no personality? Thats weak,even for you.

You'll never forget me-we both know it. ;)

Cindy Sheehan is just a medium and a tool for the ultra-left soros/Moore crowd who seem to be more interested in tearing down the future of Democracy in Iraq to score political points than giving her son a proper burial.

They have more bad things to say about Bush ( who they wanted to remove from power) than Hussein ( who they wanted to keep in power). They have more to say that is bad about our tactics ( strategic bombing) than they do about al-queda's tactics ( blow up a public market). Backwards.

You've nothing to base that on, my sour friend. We dont agree, so I have no personality? Thats weak,even for you.

Well, you would certainly seem to have first-hand knowledge of weakness if we'll use this thread to judge you.

You'll never forget me-we both know it. ;)

I'm serious. 7000+ posts and I don't recall you at all before this, and I doubt I will afterwards.

Anti war protestor Ciny Sheehan is a worthless piece of trash. I cant even begin to tell you how utterly angry i am at her. She just recently bought 5 acers of land in Crawford, Texas (right next door to Bush's ranch) for the soul puprose of tormenting President Bush until he resigns. She used the money she got from insurance payments after her son's death in Iraq to fund her little buying spree. She is sickening and should be stopped.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14062166/:upyours: :upyours: :upyours:
Wow thanks for telling me … it is kind of funny that the right wing is keeping her in the public eye. We would have let it die by now but you guys must have some strange attraction to her.

Her only power is publicity , and you guys are giving her all she wants

Well, you would certainly seem to have first-hand knowledge of weakness if we'll use this thread to judge you.



I'm serious. 7000+ posts and I don't recall you at all before this, and I doubt I will afterwards.


Eh you're still new, you'll get to know the regular folks eventually.

Eh you're still new, you'll get to know the regular folks eventually.


it's Fass - lol

Eh you're still new, you'll get to know the regular folks eventually.

Sure I am. New. Pristine, even.

it's Fass - lol

Hush! Can't you see I'm basking in innocence?

Yes ... darn that Cindy Sheehan. HOw dare she criticize an elected official ... in a democracy no less! Shame on her.

Hush! Can't you see I'm basking in innocence?

yes, but it doesnt look good on you.

Hush! Can't you see I'm basking in innocence?


Hey I can't be expected to remember everyone's alt nations. Hell I don't usually remember regulars.