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'Cause theres so many, and most of them are quite awsome ;)

I personally think that Mr 47 of the Hitman series beats the competition though. Sure, HK47 from KOTOR gives him a run for his moeny, but Mr 47 has a few advantages:
1. He doesnt talk. By the time HK47 finishes saying 'affirmation: I am here to kill you' his target will be gone. Mr 47 just kills people.
2. Mr 47 works for money. HK47 doesnt get paid and has been blown up a number of times.
3. You can generaly trust the Agency/Mr 47, provided you hold up your end of the deal. HK47 has killed HOW many of his masters, again?
4. Mr 47 is kind to animals. In Blood Money you can see him cry after he kills his canary, and he had a bunny as a kid. HK47 most likely sees animals as a source of lubricant.
5. HK47 is bright orange/red. Mr 47 wears respectable black.

Let the debate begin :P

The name's Bond . . .James Bond

Leon

'nuff said.

Ehud ben Gera.

That one in Dune

Dread from the Otherworld series.

The one in the Day of the Jackal.

Boba Fett

darth vader

Leon

'nuff said.

too vulnerbale and didn't he need a 12 yr old girl to save his ass?

darth vader

yes the Death Star is a subtle tool for the wouldbe assasin

too vulnerbale and didn't he need a 12 yr old girl to save his ass?

That's part of what made him so cool.

I thought we were looking for the best not the coolest?

yes the Death Star is a subtle tool for the wouldbe assasin

to be fair that was tarkin not vader.

vader generally just clenched a fist to kill someone.

yes the Death Star is a subtle tool for the wouldbe assasin
Well ... subtlety isn't an absolute requirement. Lee Harvey Oswald wasn't exactly subtle, nor was Booth. Of course, killing more than a few people at a time takes you out of assassination into mass murder. I think whacking an entire planet qualifies as the latter.

47 hands down (though I do like Leon, he's just not as professional as Mr. 47) I mean, he's been able to escape time and time again after kills without anyone being the wiser. (or I have anyway) Plus he just looks nasty, would you mess with him? I ure as well wouldn't.

(Plus how awsome is it to garotte a guy while pulling him up an elevator shaft. Then leaving the body on top. Who's ever going to find him?)

to be fair that was tarkin not vader.

vader generally just clenched a fist to kill someone.

Now that is an excellent way to assasinate people. V cool

Well ... subtlety isn't an absolute requirement. Lee Harvey Oswald wasn't exactly subtle, nor was Booth. Of course, killing more than a few people at a time takes you out of assassination into mass murder. I think whacking an entire planet qualifies as the latter.

I would maintain that the difference between assasination and murder is the skill and stealth of the execution.

Kirika from Noir.. followed by Mirielle her partner.
Also, if you kill one or two people thats murder, if you kill a dozen people thats mass murder, if you kill a few hundred thousand, thats genocide.

Silk from the Belgariad and Mallorean.

how about selene from the 2 underworld films!

or

Darth Scion from KOTFR2?

Francisco Scaramanga (Man With the Golden Gun)
Boba Fett in a close second.

OddJob

You can't get much cooler than decapitating people with a hat

The Agent from Serenity. Cold, ruthless, and absolutely committed.

i'm kinda partial to hugh the hand from the deathgate cycle... but apparently cadel was pretty good too in forelands series.

Barry Eisler's "John Rain" is pretty good as is Vince Flynn's "Mitch Rapp".

You have to read books to appreciate them, though.

I say, Boba Fett. People can't think of him, somehow. He's the coolest. I love him.

Boba Fett

Yess! Another Boba Fett fan! *high fives*

'Cause theres so many, and most of them are quite awsome ;)

I personally think that Mr 47 of the Hitman series beats the competition though. Sure, HK47 from KOTOR gives him a run for his moeny, but Mr 47 has a few advantages:
1. He doesnt talk. By the time HK47 finishes saying 'affirmation: I am here to kill you' his target will be gone. Mr 47 just kills people.
2. Mr 47 works for money. HK47 doesnt get paid and has been blown up a number of times.
3. You can generaly trust the Agency/Mr 47, provided you hold up your end of the deal. HK47 has killed HOW many of his masters, again?
4. Mr 47 is kind to animals. In Blood Money you can see him cry after he kills his canary, and he had a bunny as a kid. HK47 most likely sees animals as a source of lubricant.
5. HK47 is bright orange/red. Mr 47 wears respectable black.

Let the debate begin :P


Richard Melon Scafe's William Jefferson Clinton. The way he masterminded that massive cocaine smuggling operation, and murdered his friend and made it all look like a suicide even though the entire country knew about it. Best fictional character ever.

I'd have to say God. He killed millions with a flick of the wrist. No sweat.

I'd have to say God. He killed millions with a flick of the wrist. No sweat.

Smart bugger...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mechanic

Aloysius Knight - Mercenary.

What about Lord Venetari from Terry Pratchett's Discworld?

The Agent from Serenity. Cold, ruthless, and absolutely committed.


Damn good answer!

That one in Dune
Do you mean the Emperor's friend, Hamsir Fenring? Or possibly the mentat Thurfir?
What about Lord Venetari from Terry Pratchett's Discworld?
Damn you, I wanted to say that :p. Got to be one of the best fictional assassins ever.

The Phantom of the Opera was a pretty good assassin in his youth, while he lived in Persia. He was a master of the Punjab lasso, made of catgut, which he used to garrote people very quickly. And who else would think of using mirrors to kill? This is what he said in Phantom by Susan Kay, a book based on the original novel. "Mirrors can kill, Daroga...you may safely take my word for that."

How could it be anyone but James Bond? Or if it has to be assassination-only operatives, it's got to be Jason Bourne.

John Gales, from "The Last Contract". A little film from Sweden which gives a theory about who really killed the Prime Minister. Micheal Kitchen was just fucking awesome. Mostly because he doesn't look like some gigantic hardass, which a real assassin wouldn't. And he spends a lot of the film planning, organising and not doing anything remotely violent. But when he strikes, holy shit. Cold-Blooded, insanely skilled and utterly badass.

yes the Death Star is a subtle tool for the wouldbe assasin
You, sir, have my my MSN quotation.

The Agent from Serenity. Cold, ruthless, and absolutely committed.
Can't argue with that. I really can't think of any better than the ones already mentioned.

Members of the Dark Brotherhood and the Morag Tong from the elder scrolls games are pretty beastly, especially the DB missions in Oblivion.

What about Lord Venetari from Terry Pratchett's Discworld?


That is what I've been going to say, you bastard! Beat me to it. :p

I would say also, Pteppic of Djelibeybi from the same series would have made a good assasin. Sure, he didn't really have the gus to do it, but anyone who can fire a crossbow into a wall and have the bolt ricochet to embed itself in someone across the room by accident surely has a divine calling to become an assasin.

Even if the person was a wooden dummy.


Oh yes, and Mr. Teatime. Crazy-ass motherfucker right there.

Artemis Entreri

Out of the Bond group (Besides Bond)
Scaramanga (Talk about an angle, a golden bullet to do someone in.)
Xena Onattop (She Karma Sutra'ed people to death, though her death was kind of lame.)

oh and if you are talking about video games I have to say that backstabbing cardboard hiding Sibling killing Solid Snake.

Do you mean the Emperor's friend, Hasimir Fenring? Or possibly the mentat Thufir?
I will never be able to decide on a single best assassin in Dune... on the one hand, any of the Bene Gesserit can rip someone apart in seconds with their bare hands, but they are not as into the special weaponry (shigawire, hunterseekers, etc.). Then there are the facedancers of the Bene Tleilax. Oh, and don't forget the Fremen.

Then there are the Matres from the latter two Dune books... or for that matter, Duncan Idaho (Version XVI), or even better, Teg (after all, he can slaughter a building full of Matres before they know what's happening).

The problem we encounter is that proper assassins, in fiction, are most often villains, and as such, they usually fail in the end. So even if they far outshine their protagonist counterparts, their inevitable failures cannot usually compare to the inevitable successes of the protagonist.

The problem we encounter is that proper assassins, in fiction, are most often villains, and as such, they usually fail in the end. So even if they far outshine their protagonist counterparts, their inevitable failures cannot usually compare to the inevitable successes of the protagonist.
Which is why I like Mr 47. You just cant kill him. Last time somebody tried, everybody at his funeral died and the body vanished.

Vlad Taltos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_Taltos) - killed a god.

Gologo 13/Duke Togo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golgo_13) - hard core freelance version of 007.

I'd have to say God. He killed millions with a flick of the wrist. No sweat.

did'nt he use his angels to instigate it? Gabriel or whoever?

What about Lord Venetari from Terry Pratchett's Discworld?

Good lord no, Teatime is waaaaay better, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Teatime I mean the guy can assassinate DEATH for craps sake, Teatime FTW!!!!

i'd say it's a toss up betweent james bond and james bolivar 'slipery jim' deGriz, the stainless steel rat in the concrete wainscotting of society.

james bond has the most fun toys, but the stainless steel rat is sort of a super joe sixpack doing what can't be done because no one ever convinced him that it can't be. starting with his getting away with the impossible in his military carrier. (ucmj? what ucmj? chain of command? he just walks out of brigs like they were made out of cardboard. risk of life? what him worry? ...)

although there was a japanese anime thing, possibly dan cougar, or possibly some other name, i'm really not sure what the name was, only saw it once, was pretty good too. (it was of 70s vintage, or 80s at the lateset)

=^^=
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Artemis Entreri


Ding! Ding!

We have a winner!

Why, aside from your choice of Artemis Enteri, do you win?

Becuase neither James Bond, nor Boba Fett are assassins.

Bond is a spy.
Hes gets paid to steal documents, or secret plans, and yes, occasionally kill people.
An assassin, is someone who kills people for money.

Boba Fett, is a Bounty Hunter.
He gets paid to capture people, preferably alive.
Like Bond, he occasionally gets to kill them, but does not exsclusively kill people for money.

Artemis....kills people for money.
Aside from not knowing when to leave Drizz't Do Urdern the hell alone, when he kicks your ass time after time....is a slick, and dangerous mutha.

as a second choice, I nominate Miho, from Farnk Miller's Sin City.

Ding! Ding!

We have a winner!

Why, aside from your choice of Artemis Enteri, do you win?

Becuase neither James Bond, nor Boba Fett are assassins.

Bond is a spy.
Hes gets paid to steal documents, or secret plans, and yes, occasionally kill people.
An assassin, is someone who kills people for money.

Boba Fett, is a Bounty Hunter.
He gets paid to capture people, preferably alive.
Like Bond, he occasionally gets to kill them, but does not exsclusively kill people for money.

Artemis....kills people for money.
Aside from not knowing when to leave Drizz't Do Urdern the hell alone, when he kicks your ass time after time....is a slick, and dangerous mutha.

There you go. James Bond kills people because he's paid to and your definition of an assasin is someone who is paid to kill people (on a full-time professional basis) therefore James Bond IS an Assasin.

James Bond is licensened to kill not licensed to spy.

Sidney from Alias :p

i used to want to BE her

'Cause theres so many, and most of them are quite awsome ;)

I personally think that Mr 47 of the Hitman series beats the competition though. Sure, HK47 from KOTOR gives him a run for his moeny, but Mr 47 has a few advantages:
1. He doesnt talk. By the time HK47 finishes saying 'affirmation: I am here to kill you' his target will be gone. Mr 47 just kills people.
2. Mr 47 works for money. HK47 doesnt get paid and has been blown up a number of times.
3. You can generaly trust the Agency/Mr 47, provided you hold up your end of the deal. HK47 has killed HOW many of his masters, again?
4. Mr 47 is kind to animals. In Blood Money you can see him cry after he kills his canary, and he had a bunny as a kid. HK47 most likely sees animals as a source of lubricant.
5. HK47 is bright orange/red. Mr 47 wears respectable black.

Let the debate begin :P

1. But that's what makes HK so cool! :p He has the most awesome quotes of any video game. "Expletive: Dammit, master, I'm an assassin droid, not a dictionary!"
2. Well HK47 is less greedy then :p
3. Um, that was because they tended to jump in front of his fire or stab his electrical circuits with metal objects.
5. It's not bright, it's dull.

i'd say it's a toss up betweent james bond and james bolivar 'slipery jim' deGriz, the stainless steel rat in the concrete wainscotting of society.

james bond has the most fun toys, but the stainless steel rat is sort of a super joe sixpack doing what can't be done because no one ever convinced him that it can't be. starting with his getting away with the impossible in his military carrier. (ucmj? what ucmj? chain of command? he just walks out of brigs like they were made out of cardboard. risk of life? what him worry? ...)

Don't you dare dirty Jim's name with a lable like that. He abhored killing.

The Agent from Serenity. Cold, ruthless, and absolutely committed.

I'm torn between him and Garak. Oh the Count of Monte Cristo makes a pretty good assassin too, if you read the book.