NationStates Jolt Archive


Rest In Peace Pennies

The Genius Masterminds
26-07-2006, 00:37
No-more-pennies bill in Congress
By Beth Furtwangler
Cox News Service
WASHINGTON - They can be found collecting dust in jars, weighing down pockets, caught in sidewalk cracks and buried under sofa cushions.

Pennies, says Rep. Jim Kolbe, R-Ariz., are a "nuisance." Not only that, but pennies now cost more than their face value to manufacture.

Kolbe introduced legislation Tuesday to "drastically" reduce the demand for the penny and modernize the currency system.

"Our currency and coinage policies are quite simply pound wise and penny foolish," Kolbe said at a news conference. "So it's time for us to say that the penny stops here."

Under Kolbe's legislation, cash transactions would be rounded to the nearest nickel. For example, a purchase totaling $4.98 would be rounded to $5 and $4.97 would be rounded to $4.95.

This rounding system would only apply to cash purchases. Credit card purchases and electronic transfers would still be calculated to the cent.

Kolbe stressed that the system favors neither the consumer nor the retailer because the probability of rounding up or down is equal.

"The proof that nobody wants [pennies] can be found at the supermarket, where there are 'leave a penny, take a penny' dishes next to the cash registers," said Francois Velde, a senior economist at the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago and co-author of "The Big Problem of Small Change."

The U.S. Mint projects that by the end of the year, it will cost 1.4 cents to manufacture one penny - up from 0.97 cents last year and 0.8 cents in 2001.

The Mint reported that the annual cost to produce pennies could exceed revenues by around $20 million.

"That is the worst kind of waste because there is no reason for it," Kolbe said.

A hearing on the bill is scheduled for today by the House Financial Services Committee.

http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/news/nation/15070751.htm

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What do you all think? I think it'll just cause a hassle if electronic machines do not do the rounding on their own.
Call to power
26-07-2006, 00:42
I don't support this because there is usually a spare change box next to the counter supporting some charity

Also it says how pennies are worth more than there face value to produce isn’t that one of the basics of currency?
Epsilon Squadron
26-07-2006, 01:05
I don't support this because there is usually a spare change box next to the counter supporting some charity

Also it says how pennies are worth more than there face value to produce isn’t that one of the basics of currency?
Not that I've ever heard, but could be I guess /shrug

Australia had done away with $0.01 currency long ago and it doesn't seem to have caused any horrendous economic effect.

And people can still donate nickles to whatever charity.
Dinaverg
26-07-2006, 01:09
Hmmm...What ever happened to the ha'penny anyways?
Pledgeria
26-07-2006, 01:33
He's introduced this bill before. It failed then and it'll probably fail now. I wouldn't care one way or the other if it does. I just roll my change at the end of the day, including pennies, until I have enough to justify taking my coin to the bank and depositing it.
Andaluciae
26-07-2006, 01:37
It's Kolbe's personal crusade, to eliminate the penny. It makes no sense that he'd be so damn persistent on such a tiny issue.
Kyronea
26-07-2006, 01:39
It's Kolbe's personal crusade, to eliminate the penny. It makes no sense that he'd be so damn persistent on such a tiny issue.
All politicians have their pet issues. It's a hobby.
Sel Appa
26-07-2006, 01:50
HELL NO! I love pennies just as much as I love quarters. Especially copper, being my favorite metal. How about this revolutionary idea: Deflating the money supply and going back to backed money. Our money is backed by nothing...well actually it's backed by debt of the government I think, but anyway. Bring back the gold...well silver standard.

Liberty Dollar! (http://www.libertydollar.org)
Katganistan
26-07-2006, 01:51
I Want My Pennies, Dang It!
Dinaverg
26-07-2006, 02:12
I Want My Pennies, Dang It!

Title of a book? Sounds intresting, I'll check the library.
Insert Quip Here
26-07-2006, 02:15
I don't support this because there is usually a spare change box next to the counter supporting some charity

Also it says how pennies are worth more than there face value to produce isn’t that one of the basics of currency?
You have it backwards. If the metal in a penny is worth more that $0.01, then you could make a profit buying pennies and selling the metal.
Kyronea
26-07-2006, 02:43
You have it backwards. If the metal in a penny is worth more that $0.01, then you could make a profit buying pennies and selling the metal.
You would have to make an initial investment, of course, in some machinary to melt the pennies down. I don't know if it could be a worthwhile investment, but might be good for some money on the side. Depends on costs, of course.
Rainbowwws
26-07-2006, 02:58
You have it backwards. If the metal in a penny is worth more that $0.01, then you could make a profit buying pennies and selling the metal.
No, The metal isn't worth more than 1 cent. The process of melting them and stuff costs more than 1 cent.
Dododecapod
26-07-2006, 03:12
Australia got rid of all of it's one and two cent pieces a decade or so ago, maybe more, I don't remember. The rounding rules are simple, doesn't cause any problems.