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can't we all just get along?

Smunkeeville
24-07-2006, 18:02
I have noticed in the past, that there are some people that just don't like me (okay a LOT of people that don't like me, and some for good reason) but, I can be nice, mostly.

Now, I was thinking, can I really be nice? I mean really?

probably, mostly, sometimes.

What is this thread about?! do I know?

probably, mostly, sometimes.......

oh, wait.

Okay, can you name a poster (or two, or five) that even though you disagree with, that you respect?

I can name a few. I think we could all get along if we built the forum on mutual respect, except some people well, they will never have my respect, but in the sense of being nice, let's all focus on the positive.

No flaming, no "I can tell you who I will never respect" none of that.

who do you respect? whether you disagree with them or not.

My list?

Bottle

Grave_n_Idle

UpwardThrust

yeah, that's about it for now, can't really list everyone. Those are the three though that I can debate for hours, disagree the whole time and still respect them, never think of a good flame, they are of blameless character.

So, whatcha got?



*note this is Not a popularity thread, no use in naming all your buddies....
Londim
24-07-2006, 18:12
I like you Smunkee:D

Who do I respect but not agree with most of the time

Designated Marksman

Outcast Jesuits


Thats all I can think of for the most part
Dinaverg
24-07-2006, 18:17
...Adrattica

Umm...

Uhhh....
Psychotic Mongooses
24-07-2006, 18:19
*puts hand up*

I respect you. I don't always agree with you, but that doesn't diminish my respect for you.


(and I see this thread ending badly for some reason....
:( )
Gravlen
24-07-2006, 18:20
We should all be able to play nicely :)

(And I like and respect you...)
Insert Quip Here
24-07-2006, 18:20
I rarely think in those terms. I guess the best I could say is I respect those I am disinclined to mock ;)
Ashmoria
24-07-2006, 18:20
there are too many to remember or list.

most people who stay here long enough to remember their names are worthy of respect. most make good solid points when they can be bothered to try. many (bites fingers to keep from naming names) have annoying quirks and blind spots that bug me greatly but not so much that i dont respect them in other aspects of their NS life

i do want to give a special mention of melkor unchained whose posts i love even though i disagree with him on his most important issues.
Minoriteeburg
24-07-2006, 18:22
I have noticed in the past, that there are some people that just don't like me (okay a LOT of people that don't like me, and some for good reason) but, I can be nice, mostly.

Now, I was thinking, can I really be nice? I mean really?

probably, mostly, sometimes.


Smunkee i think you kick some serious ass! :D

Seriously thouhg I have been posting a lot since nov 2005 and i dont think ive really had a problem with any of the generalites on here ( a few of the trolls on the other hand are a different story) though i do stay away from the argument threads, and many people on heres opinon differ from mine im sure, but i respect everyones opinion no matter how dumb they sound :D

hopefully people think the same about me (i doubt it though)
Nadkor
24-07-2006, 18:26
Well, I can think of only a few posters off the top of my head that I disagree with on everything.

And they only usually last a month or so, how could I come to respect them if they don't stick around?
Insert Quip Here
24-07-2006, 18:28
Smunkee i think you kick some serious ass! :D

Seriously thouhg I have been posting a lot since nov 2005 and i dont think ive really had a problem with any of the generalites on here ( a few of the trolls on the other hand are a different story) though i do stay away from the argument threads, and many people on heres opinon differ from mine im sure, but i respect everyones opinion no matter how dumb they sound :D

hopefully people think the same about me (i doubt it though)

Who's a troll?
*shifty eyes*
Khadgar
24-07-2006, 18:30
A lack of conflict and diverse opinion leads to group think. Which is always a bad thing.
Minoriteeburg
24-07-2006, 18:30
Who's a troll?
*shifty eyes*


TROLL! WHERE!?!?

*takes out winchester*
Smunkeeville
24-07-2006, 18:31
A lack of conflict and diverse opinion leads to group think. Which is always a bad thing.
can you not have conflict while still having respect? that seems to work out in my marriage.....
Sinuhue
24-07-2006, 18:34
I honestly don't know why you get so much flak, Smunkee...I remember you from the very first, with people jumping down your throat and making all sorts of crazy assumptions about you based on the fact you stated you were religious.

People I respect but may not always agree with:

Alien Born
Santa Barbara
Drunk Commies Deleted
Melkor (put out that cigarette you bloody ingrate!)
Syniks

That's all I can think of right now...I disagree with these people a lot, but not on everything.
Insert Quip Here
24-07-2006, 18:36
TROLL! WHERE!?!?

*takes out winchester*
I've always thought of myself as a "hit and run humourist" but maybe I should duck?
Free shepmagans
24-07-2006, 18:38
I respect Katganistan, though I often disagree with her. I also respect Ny Nordland, mostly because he's honest in his radical views on a board where almost everyone *including me* will jump on his back about those views. That takes hootsba.
Compulsive Depression
24-07-2006, 18:41
Philosophy. I've had a few decent arguments with him, despite being able to insult him entirely accidentally.
Cabra West
24-07-2006, 18:44
Deep Kimchi comes to mind.
And you, too, Smunkee, although there are plenty of things we don't agree on.

I also respect Baguetten (Fass) and Eutrusca, although they both have the slightly irritating tendency to get insulting very easily ;)
Minoriteeburg
24-07-2006, 18:46
Deep Kimchi comes to mind.
And you, too, Smunkee, although there are plenty of things we don't agree on.

I also respect Baguetten (Fass) and Eutrusca, although they both have the slightly irritating tendency to get insulting very easily ;)


fass? get insulting? never.
Not bad
24-07-2006, 18:47
Junii always seems to try to cool down situation. He seems able to argue in a way that cools a hothead rather fan a flamer.

Jacobia is respectable and unwavering.

Same with katganistan.

Upwardthrust is reasonable even when I disagree with him.

I heat up over stuff too much and then cool down fairly quickly too.
Cabra West
24-07-2006, 18:48
fass? get insulting? never.

It never ceases to astonish me how similar these two charcters seem to be.
And now I had better find a really good place to hide...
Psychotic Mongooses
24-07-2006, 18:50
It never ceases to astonish me how similar these two charcters seem to be.
And now I had better find a really good place to hide...
They're like... an old married couple. :D
Khadgar
24-07-2006, 18:50
can you not have conflict while still having respect? that seems to work out in my marriage.....


Well you can but that's much less fun!

I'm so bored at work...
Not bad
24-07-2006, 18:50
It never ceases to astonish me how similar these two charcters seem to be.
And now I had better find a really good place to hide...

Agreed if you mean baguetten and eutrusca. Eerily similar in style but not viewpoint.
Cabra West
24-07-2006, 18:51
They're like... an old married couple. :D

I found a loose floorboard. Help me pry it up to hide under there before either of them read those posts...
Sinuhue
24-07-2006, 18:53
They're like... an old married couple. :D
Oh, stop it. It's so untrue. Rather than list why (and risk flaming), I'll just say...you are exaggerating.
Psychotic Mongooses
24-07-2006, 18:56
Oh, stop it. It's so untrue. Rather than list why (and risk flaming), I'll just say...you are exaggerating.
You know I honestly doubt either would take what I said seriously, maliciously or in fact, give a damn about my humorous observation.
Minoriteeburg
24-07-2006, 19:02
I found a loose floorboard. Help me pry it up to hide under there before either of them read those posts...

no let them see. they need to see the truth.
Cabra West
24-07-2006, 19:04
no let them see. they need to see the truth.

I don't mind them seeing the truth. I just don't want to be standing next to it when they see it :D
Carnivorous Lickers
24-07-2006, 19:11
I hardly ever agree with anyone in here.

Wether I agree with you or not, Smunkee, I've always liked you anyway.
Minoriteeburg
24-07-2006, 19:13
I don't mind them seeing the truth. I just don't want to be standing next to it when they see it :D


you can hide in my NS bomb shelter. forgot to store extra food, so all i have at the moment is chips and beer.
Carnivorous Lickers
24-07-2006, 19:30
you can hide in my NS bomb shelter. forgot to store extra food, so all i have at the moment is chips and beer.


I hope the chips are those Herr's jalepeno kettle chips.

They're damn good.
Minoriteeburg
24-07-2006, 19:36
I hope the chips are those Herr's jalepeno kettle chips.

They're damn good.

I have those as well as the jalepeno New york deli chips.

mmmm mmmm bitch!
Sinuhue
24-07-2006, 19:42
You know I honestly doubt either would take what I said seriously, maliciously or in fact, give a damn about my humorous observation.
Oh, I'm afraid of the opposite...that they'll fall in love...*shudders*
Intangelon
24-07-2006, 19:45
I don't always agree with but certainly respect:

Minoriteeburg
Sinuhue
Deep Kimchi
Cluichistan
Katganistan, and most of the Mods, actually
Baguetten/Fass
Keruvalia
Kinda Sensible People
Canuck Heaven
Carnivorous Lickers
Legless Pirates
Cabra West
Not Bad

...and a few others whose names I can't remember now, but will add when I do.

I flat-out dig and agree with (95% or better):

Bottle
Cat_Tribe
Grave_n_Idle
Whereyouthinkyougoing
Gartref

...and a few others whose names I can't remember now, but will add when I do.
Not bad
24-07-2006, 19:47
Oh, I'm afraid of the opposite...that they'll fall in love...*shudders*

They already have crushes. Dont you see how they pick at one another and have little tiffs and squabbles in moderation to get one another's attentioon? Its just a matter of time and opportunity I reckon.
Dempublicents1
24-07-2006, 20:19
I've actually met quite a few people on here that I respect, and quite a few I don't. There are, of course, the in betweens, but they get lost in the shuffle, it seems.

Off the top of my head, I can name:

Smunkeeville (yes, I'm a suck-up =)
Sinuhue
Jocabia
Grave_n_Idle
The_Cat_Tribe (although I guess he must be gone now?)
Keruvalia
Bottle
Eutrusca
UpwardThrust

I'll almost definitely add later. If I left out someone's name, don't be offended! I have a poor memory for these things. Most often, it's more that I see a name and then remember that I was impressed by that person before.
Unlucky_and_unbiddable
24-07-2006, 21:10
The Mods
Smunkee
Baguetten
Drunk Commies Deleted
Sinuhue
Bottle.

I usually agree with them though. The only time I bother to check the screen name of someone I disagree with is when they're stupid. But I won't name anyone.
Sinuhue
24-07-2006, 21:13
I find it hard to name anyone, because I agree with a lot of people...or I simply don't respect certain others...
Whereyouthinkyougoing
24-07-2006, 21:28
I find it hard to name anyone, because I agree with a lot of people...or I simply don't respect certain others...
Ha, perfect. I just spent ten minutes unsuccessfully trying to say basically that and eventually giving up.
Philosopy
24-07-2006, 21:34
I tend to like everyone except the really rude. I would never dislike someone just because they held different political views to me; in many ways, it's much more interesting to have friends you can debate with than ones who just agree with everything you say.
Not bad
24-07-2006, 21:44
Added to my list of argumentative folk who are wrong when they disagree with me but I can still tolerate them because either I like their personalities, style, or even wisdom are

Cabra West
Sinuhue
Smunkeeville
Eutrusca
Baguetten
Deep Kimchi
Designated Marksman
Fascist Dominion (when he gets off his spammy butt and debates)
And even Congressional Dimwits for apologising to me once.
Much as I hate to admit it I can appreciate 5 castes willingness to continue on his peculiar oddysey of debate as well.
IL Ruffino
24-07-2006, 21:49
I'm going to say.. TG.
IL Ruffino
24-07-2006, 21:51
Baguetten
That whole Geno's thing..

Add him to my list.
Soheran
24-07-2006, 21:52
Disagree with, yet respect... I'll exclude the left-anarchists and left-liberals, then.

Vetalia
Neu Leonstein
Europa Maxima
Vittos Ordination2 (though I agree with him more and more these days)
Andaluciae
Kyronea

There are others.
Sinuhue
24-07-2006, 21:54
I tend to like everyone except the really rude. I would never dislike someone just because they held different political views to me; in many ways, it's much more interesting to have friends you can debate with than ones who just agree with everything you say.
Yes, though I'll admit I can't tolerate racists, polite or not.
Bottle
24-07-2006, 22:11
Okay, can you name a poster (or two, or five) that even though you disagree with, that you respect?

...

My list?

Bottle

Right back atcha. You certainly would make my list. Demipublicents makes it too, since we often disagree on the subject of religion but we do so in a way that makes me respect her even more than I already do. In fact, now that I think about it, most of the people who I disagree with on a regular basis are people who I also respect...the trolls tend to fade away quickly, I guess, and I'm left with a bunch of worthy opponents.

Maybe that's why I still hang around this joint. ;)
Smunkeeville
24-07-2006, 22:13
Right back atcha. You certainly would make my list. Demipublicents makes it too, since we often disagree on the subject of religion but we do so in a way that makes me respect her even more than I already do. In fact, now that I think about it, most of the people who I disagree with on a regular basis are people who I also respect...the trolls tend to fade away quickly, I guess, and I'm left with a bunch of worthy opponents.

Maybe that's why I still hang around this joint. ;)
You know what I like about you though? even if you do think my religious belief is stupid, you don't try to say that I am stupid.

I can respect you because you can debate it, without going the "low road" and saying "you are stupid and believe in fairy tales"

;)
Baguetten
24-07-2006, 22:13
You know I honestly doubt either would take what I said seriously, maliciously or in fact, give a damn about my humorous observation.

While you are right about me not giving a damn, your observation is not humorous. It is simply wrong.
Baguetten
24-07-2006, 22:14
That whole Geno's thing..

You were served. Get over it.
The Atlantian islands
24-07-2006, 22:33
Well....for those who I respect but disagree with...hmm...hard to say.

Neu Leonstein?

Maybe Tactical Grace...though I BEYOND disagree with him.

I think thats it.

There are a few others who I admit own in debates...even if I dont agree with them.

Jocabia...
GNI...
^Those stick out in my mind.
IL Ruffino
24-07-2006, 22:46
You were served. Get over it.
I'm sorry, can you please point to which cheese you wanted?
Baguetten
24-07-2006, 23:04
I'm sorry, can you please point to which cheese you wanted?

En castellano, por favor.
IL Ruffino
24-07-2006, 23:07
En castellano, por favor.
El cheez whiz?

:p
Dobbsworld
24-07-2006, 23:19
The day we all 'get along' on NSG is the day I stop showing up. There's nothing worse than convening a meeting of the head-nodding club, in my estimation. Conflict is good, disagreement key; provided it's adequately nourished by insightful wit, an incitement to riot makes for good clean family fun all 'round.

See, I don't mind being slagged - just so long as I'm being slagged cleverly. I just wish others'd pick up on what I'm trying to lay down more often, so I don't have to endure the whingeing of the witless, the head-scratching of the humourless, or the finger-pointing of the finger-painting crowd, in the Moderation forum.

Up Loki!
Smunkeeville
24-07-2006, 23:20
The day we all 'get along' on NSG is the day I stop showing up. There's nothing worse than convening a meeting of the head-nodding club, in my estimation. Conflict is good, disagreement key; provided it's adequately nourished by insightful wit, an incitement to riot makes for good clean family fun all 'round.

See, I don't mind being slagged - just so long as I'm being slagged cleverly. I just wish others'd pick up on what I'm trying to lay down more often, so I don't have to endure the whingeing of the witless, the head-scratching of the humourless, or the finger-pointing of the finger-painting crowd, in the Moderation forum.

Up Loki!
did you like not read my OP or what?;)
Baguetten
24-07-2006, 23:21
El cheez whiz?

:p

Usted falla.
Ilie
24-07-2006, 23:24
Hm. I don't engage in a ton of debate, but I'd say I unfailingly respect Not Bad, Dobbsworld, and LaDameSansMerci.
Dobbsworld
24-07-2006, 23:24
did you like not read my OP or what?;)
Yeah, but it read too much like a popularity contest to follow your instructions. The people I respect already know I respect 'em. The people who wanna lynch me know I couldn't care less about 'em. The two aren't one and the same, they're mutually exclusive.

It seemed far more to the point to talk about getting along.
IL Ruffino
24-07-2006, 23:30
Usted falla.
Maldición :(
Psychotic Mongooses
24-07-2006, 23:44
While you are right about me not giving a damn, your observation is not humorous. It is simply wrong.
I'm stunned.
United Chicken Kleptos
24-07-2006, 23:53
I have noticed in the past, that there are some people that just don't like me (okay a LOT of people that don't like me, and some for good reason) but, I can be nice, mostly.

Now, I was thinking, can I really be nice? I mean really?

probably, mostly, sometimes.

What is this thread about?! do I know?

probably, mostly, sometimes.......

oh, wait.

Okay, can you name a poster (or two, or five) that even though you disagree with, that you respect?

I can name a few. I think we could all get along if we built the forum on mutual respect, except some people well, they will never have my respect, but in the sense of being nice, let's all focus on the positive.

No flaming, no "I can tell you who I will never respect" none of that.

who do you respect? whether you disagree with them or not.

My list?

Bottle

Grave_n_Idle

UpwardThrust

yeah, that's about it for now, can't really list everyone. Those are the three though that I can debate for hours, disagree the whole time and still respect them, never think of a good flame, they are of blameless character.

So, whatcha got?



*note this is Not a popularity thread, no use in naming all your buddies....

I'm friendly. Ohio is friendlier though. Go to the beach there and women will crawl all over you.
Baguetten
24-07-2006, 23:57
I'm stunned.

Intriguing how similar that state is to your default disposition.
Neo Undelia
25-07-2006, 00:18
First of all, who the hell doesn’t like Smunkee? I may disagree with her on a lot of things, but I for one am glad that someone who seems to be reasonably responsible is raising kids. Maybe they’ll grow up into people I won’t hate, maybe.

As for posters I disagree with on certain issues, some more than others, but still respect:

Deep Kimchi- Coolest conservative ever
Drunk Commies Deleted- Purely badass really
Fass (I can’t spell whatever his new nation in is)- Every forum should have a Fass. How else is anybody going to know that they've just made a shit thread?
Peechland- Disagree with on nearly everything and actually managed to disgust on more than one occasion, but me disgusting someone is probably a good sign of their compasion
Neu Leonstein- Funny, as he's become teh under capitalist, I've managed to slightly mello in that catergory.
Psychotic Mongooses
25-07-2006, 00:30
Intriguing how similar that state is to your default disposition.
Shocking isn't it?
Baguetten
25-07-2006, 00:34
Shocking isn't it?

I used "intriguing," but that was me acting nice.
Psychotic Mongooses
25-07-2006, 00:37
I used "intriguing," but that was me acting nice.
Odd. You never act nice.

I take that back- you do 'act' nice sometimes. Much like a cat toying with a mouse ;)
Sinuhue
25-07-2006, 00:40
Quit flirting you two.
Psychotic Mongooses
25-07-2006, 00:52
Quit flirting you two.
A boy can dream ;)
Europa Maxima
25-07-2006, 02:25
My list:
-Neu Leonstein (we may be on the same side, but we do have some disagreements)

-Soheran (about the only leftie I like here)

-Fass

-Cat Tribes

Some others too, but none come to mind right now.
Lunatic Goofballs
25-07-2006, 02:52
I have noticed in the past, that there are some people that just don't like me (okay a LOT of people that don't like me, and some for good reason) but, I can be nice, mostly.

Now, I was thinking, can I really be nice? I mean really?

probably, mostly, sometimes.

What is this thread about?! do I know?

probably, mostly, sometimes.......

oh, wait.

Okay, can you name a poster (or two, or five) that even though you disagree with, that you respect?

I can name a few. I think we could all get along if we built the forum on mutual respect, except some people well, they will never have my respect, but in the sense of being nice, let's all focus on the positive.

No flaming, no "I can tell you who I will never respect" none of that.

who do you respect? whether you disagree with them or not.

My list?

Bottle

Grave_n_Idle

UpwardThrust

yeah, that's about it for now, can't really list everyone. Those are the three though that I can debate for hours, disagree the whole time and still respect them, never think of a good flame, they are of blameless character.

So, whatcha got?



*note this is Not a popularity thread, no use in naming all your buddies....

How could anybody NOT ike you? :confused:

You are the Forum Mommy. :)
Taredas
25-07-2006, 03:10
You know, there was a person who asked if humanity could just get along for a change. We nailed Him to some planks, then repented, started calling him the Son of God and made a religion that was initially based on his teachings. In the end, however, said religion was warped by the powers that be into something completely unlike the spirit of His original message. Do we really want to ask people to get along?

Sorry, couldn't resist. Since I'm here, I might as well list five posters that I respect but often disagree with...

Fass
Eutrusca
Lunatic Goofballs (I fail to understand his intense attraction to mud)
Celtlund
Smunkeeville

And, for good measure, here's two posters who I really respect, but who I agree with enough that they don't match Smunkeeville's exact criteria:

Bottle
Dempublicents1 (sp?)
Conscience and Truth
25-07-2006, 03:14
I am a progressive fundamentalist, nobody likes me. :( :(
Maineiacs
25-07-2006, 03:47
Eutrusca. and you too, Smunkee
Maineiacs
25-07-2006, 03:48
I am a progressive fundamentalist, nobody likes me. :( :(



Isn't that an oxymoron? :D