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and concludes that Bush is not a conservative.

From the CBS interview:

I think Mr. Bush faces a singular problem best defined, I think, as the absence of effective conservative ideology — with the result that he ended up being very extravagant in domestic spending, extremely tolerant of excesses by Congress," Buckley says. "And in respect of foreign policy, incapable of bringing together such forces as apparently were necessary to conclude the Iraq challenge.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/22/eveningnews/main1826838.shtml

I've been saying that to my friends forever.
Did they listen?
No.

Will anyone listen to this guy?
Probably not.

Still, I agree.

I tend to agree as well.

He and the neocons backing him are really more statists/proto-fascists than actual conservatives.

He and the neocons backing him are really more statists/proto-fascists than actual conservatives.
Toldja so.

He and the neocons backing him are really more statists/proto-fascists than actual conservatives.
Your point?

and concludes that Bush is not a conservative.

From the CBS interview:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/22/eveningnews/main1826838.shtml
I don't believe that Bush is "compassionate" or "conservative". I have felt that way for quite some time. He seems to have a reverse Midas Touch and I think that the only passion he has, is for power and supporting his base.

My 2.04 (adjusted for inflation) cents worth.

I don't believe that Bush is "compassionate" or "conservative". I have felt that way for quite some time. He seems to have a reverse Midas Touch and I think that the only passion he has, is for power and supporting his base.

My 2.04 (adjusted for inflation) cents worth.

He lost any claim to being compasionate the moment he ridiculed Karla Faye Tucker in the Tucker Carlson interview. Any man who can mock a condemned prisoner's plea for leaniency has no compassion.

Ja. But at least he cuts taxes. What? I like to find the silver lining of even the darkest clouds. You're really f****d when you can't. What we need is a good Libertarian.

Ja. But at least he cuts taxes. What? I like to find the silver lining of even the darkest clouds. You're really f****d when you can't. What we need is a good Libertarian.

And spends enough that taxes will have to be raised again. Every silver lining has it's dark cloud. ;)

He lost any claim to being compasionate the moment he ridiculed Karla Faye Tucker in the Tucker Carlson interview. Any man who can mock a condemned prisoner's plea for leaniency has no compassion.
That and the execution of the mentally retarded (http://archives.cnn.com/2000/LOCAL/southwest/08/10/hci.bush.executions/)in Texas.

I won't be surprised if the Busheviks (in general, not NS General although I won't be surprised either if they join in) start calling William Buckley a Liberal Al Qaeda Cindy Sheehan Hugging Traitor.

And if they do, they will only make themselves look worse. William Buckley is an extremely well-educated and respected pundit... even us damned liberals listen to him. ;)

And spends enough that taxes will have to be raised again. Every silver lining has it's dark cloud. ;)
"Always look on the bright side of life"
The Life of Brian

and concludes that Bush is not a conservative.

From the CBS interview:


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/22/eveningnews/main1826838.shtml

Damn that man is ugly! What is it with old american conservatives looking worse than something dug out of a pyramid in egypt? Does evil corrupt the body as well as the mind?

I won't be surprised if the Busheviks (in general, not NS General although I won't be surprised either if they join in) start calling William Buckley a Liberal Al Qaeda Cindy Sheehan Hugging Traitor.


Well first tell me who the fuck he is....and then consider that if he thinks Bush isn't a Conservative he may be to the right of Ghengis Khan .

What the fuck is a Bushevik? is that a liberal with a bad hair piece ?

A new name for lesbians ?

Bill Buckley wakes up to the real GWB...

and concludes that Bush is not a conservative.
Although the term is a bit overused, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservative) Bush is still a form of conservative. Buckley has undoubtedly concluded [as has anyone else with two neurons to rub together for warmth] that Bush is not a Paleoconservative, nor is he any sort of embodiment of what Republicanism has professed to stand for in the last 20 years.

When the Soviet Union fell, Neoconservatism lost the boogieman it so badly needs. When September 11th came around, a new boogieman was born and Neconservatism flew out of the woodwork again. Hooray.

Bill Buckley wakes up to the real GWB...

and concludes that Bush is not a conservative.
Although the term is a bit overused, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservative) Bush is still a form of conservative. Buckley has undoubtedly concluded [as has anyone else with two neurons to rub together for warmth] that Bush is not a Paleoconservative, nor is he any sort of embodiment of what Republicanism has professed to stand for in the last 20 years.

When the Soviet Union fell, Neoconservatism lost the boogieman it so badly needs. When September 11th came around, a new boogieman was born and Neconservatism flew out of the woodwork again. Hooray.

Well first tell me who the fuck he is....and then consider that if he thinks Bush isn't a Conservative he may be to the right of Ghengis Khan .

What the fuck is a Bushevik? is that a liberal with a bad hair piece ?

A new name for lesbians ?

Err... aren't you from the US? You've always come across that way, but if you aren't familiar with Bushevik (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bushevik)
or William F. Buckley, Jr. I guess you musn't be.

William F. Buckley, Jr. is one of the most famous political comenmators in the US. Among his most outstanding accomplishments was the founding of the National Review, an important conservative political magazine.

Melkor Unchained, wouldn't Bill be more of a paleolibertarian? (Especially considering his early connection to Libertarianism's kissing cousin Objectivism...)

I don't know anything! WAAAAH! I hate you all!!!

Me too. Me too.

BTW, talking about Bush... Has anybody seen THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw4Bhmm22xo) video?

I felt :eek: and :rolleyes: when I saw it.

Bill Buckley concluded this a good bit ago. It is perhaps to the discredit of the Republican Party faithful they haven't really bothered listening to Buckley for a while. The neocons do not trust elitists, ours or their own and if William F. Buckley, Jr isn't a highly educated elite then I'm mad as a hatter.

Heck, just read Francis Fukiyama, he is a reformed neo-con, kind of...sort of. He also fell off the Bush bandwagon a good bit ago.