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Batman vs Superman

Xisla
23-07-2006, 06:29
Of all the popular superheroes, I think Batman and Superman are as opposite as they get.

I prefer Batman because I identify with him so much more. Here is my detailed argument (http://freshbrainz.blogspot.com/) why.

Superman feels really irrelevant to me.

And I like Spiderman too, not for any character reasons, but because he gets to fuck Kirsten Dunst.

Lucky bastard.
Harlesburg
23-07-2006, 06:32
What the shit happened to Xislikania?

Batman is cooler!
Dobbsworld
23-07-2006, 06:36
Batman had a better TV show.

http://www.crazyabouttv.com/ImagesTwo/batman.gif
Wilgrove
23-07-2006, 06:37
I like Batman more, he seems more human. Superman character just seems so artifical, and fake.
New Stalinberg
23-07-2006, 06:37
To put it simply, Superman sucks. He's completley invincible unless you shoot him with kryptonite.
Xisla
23-07-2006, 06:39
What the shit happened to Xislikania?

Batman is cooler!

Xislakilinia fell off a building, got rescued by stray cats and is busy stitching up a leather catsuit, thank you very much. :D

Meh. Nation got zapped and I moved on. Nothing to see here.
Wilgrove
23-07-2006, 06:41
To put it simply, Superman sucks. He's completley invincible unless you shoot him with kryptonite.

Yea, and if you follow Superman's comic covers from the years, it seems like everyone plus their grandma can get a hand on kryptonite.
Xisla
23-07-2006, 06:41
Batman had a better TV show.

http://www.crazyabouttv.com/ImagesTwo/batman.gif

That is so blatantly gay!

Have you seen the "ambiguously gay duo" before on SNL?
Dobbsworld
23-07-2006, 06:43
That is so blatantly gay!
Yeah, it's great.
Have you seen the "ambiguously gay duo" before on SNL?
I fail to see how I might've missed it. Ace & Gary ROCK!
Xisla
23-07-2006, 06:49
Yeah, it's great.

I fail to see how I might've missed it. Ace & Gary ROCK!

Cum again?
Dobbsworld
23-07-2006, 06:51
Cum again?
Now what's everybody looking at?
Xisla
23-07-2006, 06:58
Now what's everybody looking at?

Yeah! Move along now, nothing to see here.

*pats on their butts*

Cum let's see Ace and Gary, Superhero Partners! In Crime Fighting!

Ace and Gary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-CH6EZgOpk&search=ambiguous%20gay%20duo)
Empress_Suiko
23-07-2006, 07:03
Batman, more realistic and modern. Superman is soooo 1980's.
Sonaj
23-07-2006, 07:07
I just saw all three original Superman movies, so how can I not vote for him? :p
Xisla
23-07-2006, 07:20
I just saw all three original Superman movies, so how can I not vote for him? :p

When I watched the original Superman lately it strikes me how dated the special effects look. When I first watched it as a kid, it felt so real it was scary.

Especially the flying around bit. Nowadays we have computers to stitch the images and adjust colors so that the background and the superhero mash perfectly. In Superman (and Star Wars 4 and 5!) there seems to be this "shake" and color disparity that tells you that the background and foreground are separate shots.
H4ck5
23-07-2006, 07:20
Batman, infact it was a Batman plan smuggled that nearly killed Superman. Bats stashed away some red kryptonite (polymorphs Superman) and the scarecrow found it and used it on him.

I'm sure Batman has other color kryptonites ready to use against Superman if he ever had to.. Batman always has a plan and a will to win, that's why he beats Superman.
Posi
23-07-2006, 07:25
When I watched the original Superman lately it strikes me how dated the special effects look. When I first watched it as a kid, it felt so real it was scary.

Especially the flying around bit. Nowadays we have computers to stitch the images and adjust colors so that the background and the superhero mash perfectly. In Superman (and Star Wars 4 and 5!) there seems to be this "shake" and color disparity that tells you that the background and foreground are separate shots.
That's what I hated about the Matrix: Reloaded. You could tell when Neo was CG and when he was real.
Myotisinia
23-07-2006, 07:28
I always liked Batman better because he actually had to use ingenuity to vanquish a good many of his villians. Superman was always sort of a bull in a china shop, and if you bring Kryptonite into the picture, why, hell, even I could kick his *ss.

Anyone here ever read Man Of Steel, Woman Of Kleenex by Larry Niven? It's an essay on why it is not a very good idea for Lois Lane to have sex with the Man of Steel. Hilarious stuff.
GreaterPacificNations
23-07-2006, 07:30
Of all the popular superheroes, I think Batman and Superman are as opposite as they get.

I prefer Batman because I identify with him so much more. Here is my detailed argument (http://freshbrainz.blogspot.com/) why.

Superman feels really irrelevant to me.

And I like Spiderman too, not for any character reasons, but because he gets to fuck Kirsten Dunst.

Lucky bastard.
The two are more similar than most would think. Superman is just in denial. Eventually he will become batman. On the inside he already is.
GreaterPacificNations
23-07-2006, 07:33
Batman, more realistic and modern. Superman is soooo 1980's.
Batman made his resurgence in the 80's. Frank Miller re-invented him into the dark knight we know and love today in "The Dark Knight Returns". Burton Furthered the legend with the first two Batman movies.
Xisla
23-07-2006, 07:36
That's what I hated about the Matrix: Reloaded. You could tell when Neo was CG and when he was real.

Yeah, it is kinda of distracting to the narrative when that happens.
GreaterPacificNations
23-07-2006, 07:38
Batman, infact it was a Batman plan smuggled that nearly killed Superman. Bats stashed away some red kryptonite (polymorphs Superman) and the scarecrow found it and used it on him.

I'm sure Batman has other color kryptonites ready to use against Superman if he ever had to.. Batman always has a plan and a will to win, that's why he beats Superman.
Did you read that awesome fight scene in "The Dark Knight Returns" between Batman and Superman in the Batcave. It is perhaps my favourite comic book sequence ever. "I'm done talking. Get out of my cave"
Xisla
23-07-2006, 07:38
The two are more similar than most would think. Superman is just in denial. Eventually he will become batman. On the inside he already is.

What do you mean? How can Superman "catch up" with Batman's hate?
Posi
23-07-2006, 07:38
Who else voted "I'd like to fuck Kirsten Dunst. Please?"
Empress_Suiko
23-07-2006, 07:38
Batman made his resurgence in the 80's. Frank Miller re-invented him into the dark knight we know and love today in "The Dark Knight Returns". Burton Furthered the legend with the first two Batman movies.



More of the late 80's, Superman just seems campy and childish to me.
GreaterPacificNations
23-07-2006, 07:40
Favourite Batman quote ever:
CRIMINAL: Hey you can't do that! I've got rights!
BATMAN: Yeah, you got rights. Lots of rights. Sometimes I count them to make myself feel crazy.
Xisla
23-07-2006, 07:40
Who else voted "I'd like to fuck Kirsten Dunst. Please?"

I voted for Batman since I was the OP. If not, I would have voted for Kirsten Dunst, any day.
Wilgrove
23-07-2006, 07:41
I always liked Batman better because he actually had to use ingenuity to vanquish a good many of his villians. Superman was always sort of a bull in a china shop, and if you bring Kryptonite into the picture, why, hell, even I could kick his *ss.

Anyone here ever read Man Of Steel, Woman Of Kleenex by Larry Niven? It's an essay on why it is not a very good idea for Lois Lane to have sex with the Man of Steel. Hilarious stuff.

http://www.rawbw.com/~svw/superman.html

This is a link to that essay!
GreaterPacificNations
23-07-2006, 07:45
More of the late 80's, Superman just seems campy and childish to me.
True, though he doesn't have to be. Much like Batman I very much prefer new superman to old superman (in the Comics). You should read the awesome 'what if' superman comic 'Red Son' which details a world in which Superman's pod landed in USSR instead of the USA. Very interesting. A good peview of things to come for the real Superman IMO. After all, it has been prophesised in the comics that superman will eventually try to destroy earth. Superman is actually fucked in the head, he just has a very beleivable facade. So beleivable, that he also beleives in it.
Xisla
23-07-2006, 07:51
http://www.rawbw.com/~svw/superman.html

This is a link to that essay!

What an issue of global proportions!
Iansisle
23-07-2006, 07:58
I've got to go with the Man of Steel on this one. I grew up watching Superman cartoons (you know the real old school ones in black and white. I remember one in particular where Lois Lane went to some south sea island for something or the other and Superman had to rescue her from falling chunks of molten rock. Badass! But I'm getting a little distracted) and never got into Batman until much later. Besides, what most people consider 'camp', I consider 'nostalgic charm' =P

However, I've tons of respect for Batman. I went to see his new movie (granted, I didn't drag my best friend out to see the first showing on the night before he had to catch a flight to Europe like I did for Superman Returns, but I did see it in theaters, which is a major accomplishment for me) and still think he's pretty cool. Not as great as Superman, though; he's still on that plateau of superheroism which requires you to go after the bad guy as your primary objective; he hasn't quite evolved to the level of awesomeness where the supervillain is a secondary concern to limiting collateral damage. Still Batman's original DC and that alone makes him superior to all those whiney Marvel pukes.

In conclusion, I voted for Superman. *nod*
Solarlandus
23-07-2006, 08:40
Batman is all about the advantages that inherited wealth can buy with intelligence and determination while Superman is all about how far you can go with natural talent used with intelligence and determination. On that basis I prefer Superman. :)

That said, I have to agree with Iansisle on the merits of DC heroes vs. their Marvel counterparts who were a little too prone to self-pity. ^_~
Demented Hamsters
23-07-2006, 09:08
The two are more similar than most would think. Superman is just in denial. Eventually he will become batman. On the inside he already is.
I think if Superman ever went to the darkside, he'd end up like Judge Dredd. Completely sure of himself that his way is the only way and that excessive force not only is useful but necessary in most, if not all, occassions.

Either that, or he'll go the way of Marvelman (sorry, Miracleman to you yanks) by the end of his series and set himself up as the Earth's protector against us weak, useless, violent humans who are incapable of looking after ourselves without wanting to kill or destroy others.
Demented Hamsters
23-07-2006, 09:20
Batman had a better TV show.

http://www.crazyabouttv.com/ImagesTwo/batman.gif
I see you gay 60's TV show and raise you the really gay 50's TV show:
http://www.briansdriveintheater.com/superhero/georgereeves/georgereeves3.jpg

Look, in this pic he's even getting ready for some hot backdoor lovin'!
http://www.crazyabouttv.com/ImagesTwo/superman.jpg
BackwoodsSquatches
23-07-2006, 10:18
Superman is a coward with all the power in the world.
He can never walk amongst regular people, as he is.
Superman must attempt to pass for a human, to interact with us.

Im sure many of you have seen Kill Bill, and seen David Carradine's monologue about Clark Kent being Supermans critique on the human race.

Nervous, insecure, helpless, and weak, and afraid.

So, ultimately, Superman is a time bomb waiting to happen.

How long can a person who considers you weak and helpless, maybe even stupid, act as your eternal and undefeatable guardian, before he begins to resent you for it?

How long will he answer your every call against battles you cant win?
How long will it be before simply stops coming, or worse....begins to hate you for your weakness?

Batman, however...

Its not the martial arts that makes Batman dangerous.
Its not the exspensive toys, nor the scary costume.
Batman is fucking insane.

Dedication is one thing, fanaticism another.
Beyond zealotism, or bezerk blind dogged relentlessness, there is Batman.

Batman doesnt call himself Bruce Wayne, he calls himself Batman.
Bruce Wayne was consumed by an entity that itself, was consumed by revenge and rage.
It just so happens that the focus of all that hate is injustice, and corruption.
It is FORTUNATE that Bats is on the side of the law, for if he wasnt, and murder not an issue...he would slaughter anyone who got in his way, and if he couldnt, plot and scheme, and try again, relentlessly, until that person is dead.

Batmans weapon is fear.
If your enemy is terrified of you, you have already beat him, and you dont need super powers.
JiangGuo
23-07-2006, 12:12
Who else voted "I'd like to fuck Kirsten Dunst. Please?"

Me! Me! Me!
JiangGuo
23-07-2006, 12:14
Good to see a number of us see there are important things in life than comparing fictional characters, like equally worthless ideas about getting sexual favors from under-25 starletts.
Super-power
23-07-2006, 13:07
Batman. Relying upon your intelligence as opposed to brute strength.
Saxnot
23-07-2006, 13:09
The Dark Knight, in his Frank Miller form.
Peisandros
23-07-2006, 13:10
Hmmm... Kirsten Dunst.

:fluffle:

Batman pwns.
The Aeson
23-07-2006, 15:19
Batman. You wanna know why?

Superman= Last Survivor of a Dying World. Except for Supergirl. And Superboy. Krypto... Sparky... Super-Horse... a goddamn Monkey! Those dudes in the phantom zone... those robots in his fortress... the bottle city... Yeah. He's the last of 'em. Yep.

Batman= Parents gunned down in front of his eyes. That is like holy scripture. Even in all of their retcons, I'm pretty sure DC hasn't touched that.

Superman got his powers from the yellow sun.

Batman had to earn his abilities.

There was (seriously) a comic where Red Kryptonite (actually might not have been authentic. The imp from the fifth dimension was involved and everything got weird) made Superman lose his powers, and it was actually a big deal that he had to think his way out of a situation.

Batman is the world's greatest detective.

Considering how much Kryptonite there is around, and the above^ if Batman and Superman ever seriously have it out, Batman will see it coming, and Batman will be ready. Check out Dark Knight Returns. Batman had Superman on the ropes until he faked his heart attack.
Hortopia
23-07-2006, 15:27
He is the capitalist's super hero. His only power is being really, really rich. As a Western European i have no choice but to side with Batman.
The Tribes Of Longton
23-07-2006, 15:44
Superman would kick Batman's arse six ways from Sunday, unless Bruce used his wealth to build a suit of Kryptonite or something. However, it doesn't mean that Batman isn't far the superior comic.
The Aeson
23-07-2006, 16:06
Superman would kick Batman's arse six ways from Sunday, unless Bruce used his wealth to build a suit of Kryptonite or something. However, it doesn't mean that Batman isn't far the superior comic.

That's what I'm saying. Batman is the type of guy who, if he knew he was going to fight Superman (and he would) would be carrying Kryptonite Brass Knuckles or something.

Oh, and just for the record, Kryptonite is not Superman's only weakness. His two other weaknesses (that I know of) are red sunlight (drives out his superpowers) and magic (it effects him like everyone else).

Not to mention that it is possible, just extremely difficult, to go toe-to-toe with Superman. (Doomsday)
Cluichstan
23-07-2006, 16:27
Who else voted "I'd like to fuck Kirsten Dunst. Please?"

How could I not? She's fuckin' HAWT! *drool*

http://www.crystalacids.com/database/images/kirsten_dunst_full.jpg

Oh, but for the record, Batman is much cooler than Superman.
Free shepmagans
23-07-2006, 17:00
How could I not? She's fuckin' HAWT! *drool*
*sniptydoda*
Oh, but for the record, Batman is much cooler than Superman.
She looks like one of her eyes is asleep in the pic. :p
Cluichstan
23-07-2006, 17:01
She looks like one of her eyes is asleep in the pic. :p

*thwap*
The Tribes Of Longton
23-07-2006, 17:02
She looks like one of her eyes is asleep in the pic. :p
You're looking at her eyes? The shot is virtually engineered to get the male brian looking at her boobs, dude. Come on.
Cluichstan
23-07-2006, 17:03
You're looking at her eyes? The shot is virtually engineered to get the male brian looking at her boobs, dude. Come on.

Oh, and it works! :D
Free shepmagans
23-07-2006, 17:04
You're looking at her eyes? The shot is virtually engineered to get the male brian looking at her boobs, dude. Come on.
I'm attracted to women's faces and legs. I have no love for the other bits, so hit me.

*thwap*

Ow! :(
Xisla
23-07-2006, 17:43
You're looking at her eyes? The shot is virtually engineered to get the male brian looking at her boobs, dude. Come on.

Best boobs this side of the Galaxy.

When I saw those puppies I knew I'd marry a Kirsten Dunst.
Cluichstan
23-07-2006, 17:46
Best boobs this side of the Galaxy.

When I saw those puppies I knew I'd marry a Kirsten Dunst.

When I saw those puppies, when I was looking for a pic to post in this thread, I knew I needed some Cluich time. :p
Xisla
23-07-2006, 17:47
When I saw those puppies, when I was looking for a pic to post in this thread, I knew I needed some Cluich time. :p

Ick.
Xisla
23-07-2006, 17:54
This was the first picture that acquainted me to Kirsten Dunst's glorious bosom.

Virgin Suicides (http://www.famousbabes.com/pics118/kirstenD/kirstenD222.jpg)

I have been in love with them since then.
Harlesburg
24-07-2006, 08:50
Xislakilinia fell off a building, got rescued by stray cats and is busy stitching up a leather catsuit, thank you very much. :D

Meh. Nation got zapped and I moved on. Nothing to see here.
Honest?:eek:
Gartref
24-07-2006, 08:54
Superman is an illegal alien taking jobs away from real American superheroes.
Damor
24-07-2006, 11:49
I voted batman, as I don't care much for Kirsten Dunst (even aside from not caring to fuck anyone I don't actually know). But don't be offended, look at it as increasing the chance you'll ever have her to yourself.
Demented Hamsters
24-07-2006, 12:09
I voted batman, as I don't care much for Kirsten Dunst (even aside from not caring to fuck anyone I don't actually know). But don't be offended, look at it as increasing the chance you'll ever have her to yourself.
How noble of you to take yourself out of the running like that.
Yet at the same time, how egotistical that you think of yourself as being better than the rest of us in that you appear confident in the knowledge Kirsten would pick you over the rest of us if she was ever forced to choose between NS'ers.
German Nightmare
24-07-2006, 12:30
Batman anyday.

Besides, have you ever tried to get out of your pants in a phone booth? Yeah, I ain't Superman, either.

And I'd like to fuck Kirsten Dunst, thank you very much! http://www.weboldies.de/images/smilies/hechel.gif
Damor
24-07-2006, 13:48
How noble of you to take yourself out of the running like that.
Yet at the same time, how egotistical that you think of yourself as being better than the rest of us in that you appear confident in the knowledge Kirsten would pick you over the rest of us if she was ever forced to choose between NS'ers.Actually, I was basing it (unrealistically) on a uniform distribution of Kirsten choosing any male on the planet. So, me taking myself out of the running would increase everyone's chance by roughly 1/9 quintillionth (1/9*10^-18)
Demented Hamsters
24-07-2006, 15:32
Actually, I was basing it (unrealistically) on a uniform distribution of Kirsten choosing any male on the planet. So, me taking myself out of the running would increase everyone's chance by roughly 1/9 quintillionth (1/9*10^-18)
Don't try to weasel out of it now.
Just be man enough to admit that full-length mirrors are the main reason you're always late to anything.
Minoriteeburg
24-07-2006, 16:08
batman movies have hotter villians (even though the movies might suck a little more)


http://www.myblog.fr/albums/movies/47621.jpg
Free shepmagans
24-07-2006, 16:09
batman movies have hotter villians (even though the movies might suck a little more)
Hotter? What about mister Freeze? He was quite cold... :p
Minoriteeburg
24-07-2006, 16:12
Hotter? What about mister Freeze? He was quite cold... :p


quite cold indeed. my favorite villian on the good animated series. and the comics. the worst villian in the movies tied with bane.