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If this is for real it shows how crazy these people are.

The Washington Times

By Arnold Beichman


Iran's parliament is preparing fashion designs for national Islamic costumes to combat what they call the corrupting influence of Western fashion.
Agence France Presse reports the move comes after the supreme leader of the Islamic Republic, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, warned the nation about a "cultural invasion" and the dangers to public morality of imitating foreigners. Iranians needed to design their own styles, he said.
A special Parliamentary committee report has been submitted with recommendations for national costumes. Here are some ideas the Iranian parliamentary committee should consider:
New and special costumes are needed to go with the historic vocations of the new Iran. These fashion designs reject undesirable and corrupting Western styles. These fashion proposals are in strict harmony with Iranian religious practice.
Adulterers are generally stoned to death by assembled onlookers in keeping with Islamic teachings. Therefore, a pleated dress shirt should be made for stoning adulterers, preferably in white silk to attest to the stone-throwers' purity. The stone-throwers should have a free throwing arm, so both right and left sleeves should be amply (mutton-shaped) proportioned from shoulder to forearm. Stoning adulterers is a religious rite and participants should dress as for a holy day.
For the lesser punishment of whipping, as prescribed for violators of Islamic law, a different colored shirt -- red -- should be designed for the whipper and witnesses. An experienced whipper will start guilty blood flowing and even spurting from the criminal. This would discolor a white shirt and make it perhaps unsuitable for normal wear. A red shirt would eliminate that problem.
Different costumes are needed for those who fulfill the religious authorities' orders to inflict pain on sinners. (We repudiate designation of these devout Muslims as "torturers" when, as is well known, the punishment is a form of penance to assure the victim a place in paradise.) Pain inflicters need a sleeveless shirt to keep the swinging arm free from the shoulder down.
Special costumes are needed for the dedicated hangmen, one for those who prepare male sinners for hanging and another for those who prepare the hanging of women, especially young female law violators. It is not morally proper or civilized that the hangman who oversaw the execution of a 16-year-old girl sinner last week should wear the same costume as a hangman who supervises the ultimate fate of a hardened criminal.
The 16-year-old girl, Ateqeh Sahaleh, was publicly hanged in the city center on Sunday, Aug. 15, in the town of Neka. The sentence was issued by the head of Neka's Justice Department and subsequently upheld by the mullahs' Supreme Court.
At her trial, the teenager had no lawyer, and her family's efforts to recruit a lawyer were to no avail.
Ateqeh personally defended herself. She told the religious judge, Haji Rezaii, he should punish the main perpetrators of moral corruption, not the victims. After her execution, Judge Rezai said he had her killed for her "sharp tongue."
Above all, there must be an extraordinary costume for Muslim men and women who make the ultimate sacrifice as jihadists (the infidel description of "suicide bombers" should be repudiated). The holy martyrs will be arriving at a heaven that will welcome them with open arms, and they should have a costume that shows they are faithful followers of Islam. For these holy martyrs, we will design a gown of gold-streaked silk with a green band hem on which will be imprinted the sacred words "Allah Akhbar" and the photograph of the revered and immortal Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.
If necessary, a fatwa will be issued coincident with Iran National Fashion Week to ensure these recommendations are fulfilled.

Arnold Beichman is a Hoover Institution research fellow. His updated biography "Herman Wouk, the Novelist as Social Historian," will be published next month.

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=125

*Shrugs*

It's an internal matter. I don't see them invading other countries and forcing their penal code on other people.

It is not morally proper or civilized that the hangman who oversaw the execution of a 16-year-old girl sinner last week should wear the same costume as a hangman who supervises the ultimate fate of a hardened criminal.

Yes, ofcourse, that's the moral issue that needs to be addressed here! How barbaric that the hangmen wear the same costume!

Personally, I think the Iranians went off the deep end some time ago. Now it's just a matter of how far into the depths of insanity they can sink.

preferably in white silk to attest to the stone-throwers' purity
Disgusting. No-one is without sin and none may throw the first stone as it were. I would be surprised if the Koran doesn;t say something like this.

For these holy martyrs, we will design a gown of gold-streaked silk with a green band hem on which will be imprinted the sacred words "Allah Akhbar" and the photograph of the revered and immortal Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.
Dude we should support a measure that would make suicide bombers so easy to identify!

*Shrugs*

It's an internal matter. I don't see them invading other countries and forcing their penal code on other people.
Human rights are everyone's business.

If this is for real it shows how crazy these people are.

The Washington Times

By Arnold Beichman


Iran's parliament is preparing fashion designs for national Islamic costumes to combat what they call the corrupting influence of Western fashion.
Agence France Presse reports the move comes after the supreme leader of the Islamic Republic, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, warned the nation about a "cultural invasion" and the dangers to public morality of imitating foreigners. Iranians needed to design their own styles, he said.
A special Parliamentary committee report has been submitted with recommendations for national costumes. Here are some ideas the Iranian parliamentary committee should consider:
New and special costumes are needed to go with the historic vocations of the new Iran. These fashion designs reject undesirable and corrupting Western styles. These fashion proposals are in strict harmony with Iranian religious practice.
Adulterers are generally stoned to death by assembled onlookers in keeping with Islamic teachings. Therefore, a pleated dress shirt should be made for stoning adulterers, preferably in white silk to attest to the stone-throwers' purity. The stone-throwers should have a free throwing arm, so both right and left sleeves should be amply (mutton-shaped) proportioned from shoulder to forearm. Stoning adulterers is a religious rite and participants should dress as for a holy day.
For the lesser punishment of whipping, as prescribed for violators of Islamic law, a different colored shirt -- red -- should be designed for the whipper and witnesses. An experienced whipper will start guilty blood flowing and even spurting from the criminal. This would discolor a white shirt and make it perhaps unsuitable for normal wear. A red shirt would eliminate that problem.
Different costumes are needed for those who fulfill the religious authorities' orders to inflict pain on sinners. (We repudiate designation of these devout Muslims as "torturers" when, as is well known, the punishment is a form of penance to assure the victim a place in paradise.) Pain inflicters need a sleeveless shirt to keep the swinging arm free from the shoulder down.
Special costumes are needed for the dedicated hangmen, one for those who prepare male sinners for hanging and another for those who prepare the hanging of women, especially young female law violators. It is not morally proper or civilized that the hangman who oversaw the execution of a 16-year-old girl sinner last week should wear the same costume as a hangman who supervises the ultimate fate of a hardened criminal.
The 16-year-old girl, Ateqeh Sahaleh, was publicly hanged in the city center on Sunday, Aug. 15, in the town of Neka. The sentence was issued by the head of Neka's Justice Department and subsequently upheld by the mullahs' Supreme Court.
At her trial, the teenager had no lawyer, and her family's efforts to recruit a lawyer were to no avail.
Ateqeh personally defended herself. She told the religious judge, Haji Rezaii, he should punish the main perpetrators of moral corruption, not the victims. After her execution, Judge Rezai said he had her killed for her "sharp tongue."
Above all, there must be an extraordinary costume for Muslim men and women who make the ultimate sacrifice as jihadists (the infidel description of "suicide bombers" should be repudiated). The holy martyrs will be arriving at a heaven that will welcome them with open arms, and they should have a costume that shows they are faithful followers of Islam. For these holy martyrs, we will design a gown of gold-streaked silk with a green band hem on which will be imprinted the sacred words "Allah Akhbar" and the photograph of the revered and immortal Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.
If necessary, a fatwa will be issued coincident with Iran National Fashion Week to ensure these recommendations are fulfilled.

Arnold Beichman is a Hoover Institution research fellow. His updated biography "Herman Wouk, the Novelist as Social Historian," will be published next month.

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=125

Actually its rather slyly done. I looked for the orginal article on AFP but didnt find it. However -

Iran's parliament is preparing fashion designs for national Islamic costumes to combat what they call the corrupting influence of Western fashion.
Agence France Presse reports the move comes after the supreme leader of the Islamic Republic, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, warned the nation about a "cultural invasion" and the dangers to public morality of imitating foreigners. Iranians needed to design their own styles, he said.
A special Parliamentary committee report has been submitted with recommendations for national costumes.

is the only part of the above article that refers to what AFP are supposed to have reported. The other two thirds or more are the authors invention. Following what I've bolded above he inserts "Here are some ideas the Iranian parliamentary committee should consider:".

There is no plan referring to executioners, or specific methods of execution, whatsover, at all, in any way shape or form other than that made up by Mr Beichmann. Yet we already have posts referring to penal codes and executioners.

Its curious that some of the facts that are stated in that article have little backing in the news.

For example, I googled the hanging of Ateqeh Sahaleh, and all I got is circular references of that event, i.e., a bunch of sites (generally associated with people against the current iranian regime) quoting that event.

Nothing on AP, reuters, cnn, even fox news.

Incidentally, i went to HRW web page on Iran (http://www.hrw.org/doc?t=mideast&c=iran), and there is nothing there about this event (though you get alot more on other things).

But thing is.. the credibility of the original post seems dubious for me.

Human rights are everyone's business.
Yet the US constantly tells everyone else to butt out when they execute minors, support muderous dictatorships etc. So maybe it's only everyone's business when it's the 'bad guys'?

Actually its rather slyly done. I looked for the orginal article on AFP but didnt find it. However -

Iran's parliament is preparing fashion designs for national Islamic costumes to combat what they call the corrupting influence of Western fashion.
Agence France Presse reports the move comes after the supreme leader of the Islamic Republic, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, warned the nation about a "cultural invasion" and the dangers to public morality of imitating foreigners. Iranians needed to design their own styles, he said.
A special Parliamentary committee report has been submitted with recommendations for national costumes.

is the only part of the above article that refers to what AFP are supposed to have reported. The other two thirds or more are the authors invention. Following what I've bolded above he inserts "Here are some ideas the Iranian parliamentary committee should consider:".

There is no plan referring to executioners, or specific methods of execution, whatsover, at all, in any way shape or form other than that made up by Mr Beichmann. Yet we already have posts referring to penal codes and executioners.
How typical. Well, I thought I smelled a troll...I suppose we can all move on now.

Iran wants special clothes for hangmen, stoners, etc.

http://i17.ebayimg.com/05/i/06/a7/d3/fa_1_b.JPG

Well, that's the stoners sorted, now what about the hangmen?

Understandable but it is still 100% disgusting.

Actually its rather slyly done. I looked for the orginal article on AFP but didnt find it. However -

Iran's parliament is preparing fashion designs for national Islamic costumes to combat what they call the corrupting influence of Western fashion.
Agence France Presse reports the move comes after the supreme leader of the Islamic Republic, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, warned the nation about a "cultural invasion" and the dangers to public morality of imitating foreigners. Iranians needed to design their own styles, he said.
A special Parliamentary committee report has been submitted with recommendations for national costumes.

is the only part of the above article that refers to what AFP are supposed to have reported. The other two thirds or more are the authors invention. Following what I've bolded above he inserts "Here are some ideas the Iranian parliamentary committee should consider:".

There is no plan referring to executioners, or specific methods of execution, whatsover, at all, in any way shape or form other than that made up by Mr Beichmann. Yet we already have posts referring to penal codes and executioners.
Ooooh, clever!

You did well in spotting the BS. Another non-story just like the "Jew badges"-story some time ago.

Moving right along!

How hypocritical of the US to judge! America has special clothes for stoners too. Usually, a baggy T-shirt and faded jeans.

If this is for real it shows how crazy these people are.

The Washington Times

By Arnold Beichman


Iran's parliament is preparing fashion designs for national Islamic costumes to combat what they call the corrupting influence of Western fashion.
Agence France Presse reports the move comes after the supreme leader of the Islamic Republic, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, warned the nation about a "cultural invasion" and the dangers to public morality of imitating foreigners. Iranians needed to design their own styles, he said.
A special Parliamentary committee report has been submitted with recommendations for national costumes. Here are some ideas the Iranian parliamentary committee should consider:
New and special costumes are needed to go with the historic vocations of the new Iran. These fashion designs reject undesirable and corrupting Western styles. These fashion proposals are in strict harmony with Iranian religious practice.
Adulterers are generally stoned to death by assembled onlookers in keeping with Islamic teachings. Therefore, a pleated dress shirt should be made for stoning adulterers, preferably in white silk to attest to the stone-throwers' purity. The stone-throwers should have a free throwing arm, so both right and left sleeves should be amply (mutton-shaped) proportioned from shoulder to forearm. Stoning adulterers is a religious rite and participants should dress as for a holy day.
For the lesser punishment of whipping, as prescribed for violators of Islamic law, a different colored shirt -- red -- should be designed for the whipper and witnesses. An experienced whipper will start guilty blood flowing and even spurting from the criminal. This would discolor a white shirt and make it perhaps unsuitable for normal wear. A red shirt would eliminate that problem.
Different costumes are needed for those who fulfill the religious authorities' orders to inflict pain on sinners. (We repudiate designation of these devout Muslims as "torturers" when, as is well known, the punishment is a form of penance to assure the victim a place in paradise.) Pain inflicters need a sleeveless shirt to keep the swinging arm free from the shoulder down.
Special costumes are needed for the dedicated hangmen, one for those who prepare male sinners for hanging and another for those who prepare the hanging of women, especially young female law violators. It is not morally proper or civilized that the hangman who oversaw the execution of a 16-year-old girl sinner last week should wear the same costume as a hangman who supervises the ultimate fate of a hardened criminal.
The 16-year-old girl, Ateqeh Sahaleh, was publicly hanged in the city center on Sunday, Aug. 15, in the town of Neka. The sentence was issued by the head of Neka's Justice Department and subsequently upheld by the mullahs' Supreme Court.
At her trial, the teenager had no lawyer, and her family's efforts to recruit a lawyer were to no avail.
Ateqeh personally defended herself. She told the religious judge, Haji Rezaii, he should punish the main perpetrators of moral corruption, not the victims. After her execution, Judge Rezai said he had her killed for her "sharp tongue."
Above all, there must be an extraordinary costume for Muslim men and women who make the ultimate sacrifice as jihadists (the infidel description of "suicide bombers" should be repudiated). The holy martyrs will be arriving at a heaven that will welcome them with open arms, and they should have a costume that shows they are faithful followers of Islam. For these holy martyrs, we will design a gown of gold-streaked silk with a green band hem on which will be imprinted the sacred words "Allah Akhbar" and the photograph of the revered and immortal Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.
If necessary, a fatwa will be issued coincident with Iran National Fashion Week to ensure these recommendations are fulfilled.

Arnold Beichman is a Hoover Institution research fellow. His updated biography "Herman Wouk, the Novelist as Social Historian," will be published next month.

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=125


The Germans have these really cool SS uniforms...maybe they are appropriate ?

The Germans have these really cool SS uniforms...maybe they are appropriate ?

that is one of th emost inane comments i have ever read.

very sad:gundge:

that is one of th emost inane comments i have ever read.

very sad:gundge:


why ?


Black ...so the blood splashes from the stones impact wont show .

and the really cool skull and crossbones and the lightning bolts show you mean business.

Chill dude .

Dude we should support a measure that would make suicide bombers so easy to identify!
LOL! Pure genius

why ?


Black ...so the blood splashes from the stones impact wont show .

and the really cool skull and crossbones and the lightning bolts show you mean business.

Chill dude .
BS non-story warning.

LOL! Pure genius



orange vest like hunters wear ?

why ?


Black ...so the blood splashes from the stones impact wont show .

and the really cool skull and crossbones and the lightning bolts show you mean business.

Chill dude .

the story is BS and do we have to go through the tiresome game of comparing everyone the US has a problem with to nazis?

its boring

there is plenty to criticise the iranian govt about without inventing bull.

Yet the US constantly tells everyone else to butt out when they execute minors, support muderous dictatorships etc. So maybe it's only everyone's business when it's the 'bad guys'?
Shut up, Canadian, or we'll take back the warship fleet, by which I mean the rowboats on Lake Erie.

BS non-story warning.



Ok...seems Irans " President " sent a letter to GERMANY inquiring about his Jewish problem ..etc.

RELEVANCE .


Crazy iranians want to put the stoners and hangmen in special UNIFORMS

Link to the relevance .

I just killed two birds with one stoner .

orange vest like hunters wear ?
No, it said a robe thing that says "Allah Ackbar," with a picture of Ayatollah Khomeini. That is even more identifiable than a orange friggin vest. I mean, this could make my life so much easier when I'm in Afghanistan. Granted, they're probably gonna want me to shoot every military age male anyways, but still it would be funny to see ;) .


:upyours: to everyone who is about to bitch about that post :D

I thought about a new line of clothing products:

"ExecutionerWear"

lol

Ok...seems Irans " President " sent a letter to GERMANY inquiring about his Jewish problem ..etc.

RELEVANCE .


Crazy iranians want to put the stoners and hangmen in special UNIFORMS

Link to the relevance .

I just killed two birds with one stoner .

you clealy havent read the thread if you still believe that. refresh, it was an opinion piece and the writer MADE THAT BIT UP.

you have no idea and no way of knowing what the letter said as the german govt are refusing to elaborate on the contents.

in short, you are talking out of your poo pipe

I thought about a new line of clothing products:

"ExecutionerWear"

lol


Bet some goth dude/dudette already sells it :D

Crazy iranians want to put the stoners and hangmen in special UNIFORMS
No, that's just suggestions presented by Arnold Beichman. Most of the OP is just an opinion by him, not reports of Iranian policy.

That's why we're saying it's a BS Non-story.

Why is this thread still alive?

Ok then we should all be making fun at the Arnold beicman crazy dude who cooked up this pile of shit...no problem .

I still like the idea of putting suicide bomberrs in hazmat colors with warning labels...

so at least some good has come of this mess.


Arnolds a short fat nearsighted mole looking old fart with major ear hair and has not been laid once in his life...so we should all pity him . thats why he has time to print this stuff . Its revenge for his life .

Why is this thread still alive?
-.-.- LACK OF CHEESE ERROR -.-.-

you clealy havent read the thread if you still believe that. refresh, it was an opinion piece and the writer MADE THAT BIT UP.

you have no idea and no way of knowing what the letter said as the german govt are refusing to elaborate on the contents.

in short, you are talking out of your poo pipe

I clearly have NOT read the entire thread..I am still not bind nor frothing from the mouth or spanking my dog with a spiked baseball bat..some threads
should actually have hazmat warnings ...come to think of it .:eek:

Actually its rather slyly done. I looked for the orginal article on AFP but didnt find it. However -

Iran's parliament is preparing fashion designs for national Islamic costumes to combat what they call the corrupting influence of Western fashion.
Agence France Presse reports the move comes after the supreme leader of the Islamic Republic, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, warned the nation about a "cultural invasion" and the dangers to public morality of imitating foreigners. Iranians needed to design their own styles, he said.
A special Parliamentary committee report has been submitted with recommendations for national costumes.

is the only part of the above article that refers to what AFP are supposed to have reported. The other two thirds or more are the authors invention. Following what I've bolded above he inserts "Here are some ideas the Iranian parliamentary committee should consider:".

There is no plan referring to executioners, or specific methods of execution, whatsover, at all, in any way shape or form other than that made up by Mr Beichmann. Yet we already have posts referring to penal codes and executioners.
Good job!!! You win the thread!! :cool:

Why is this thread still alive?
Good question!!

Spam value ?

Um, before it's dead, I re-iterate for those who don't know-

The Washington Times is owned lock, stock, barrel by the Moonies. And, should it come to a question of WHAT GETS REPORTED AND HOW, their content and spin is under the auspices of the Rev.

The Rev is, among other things, batshit crazy. He is also "right-wing", though this is a gross misuse of the term, as his regressive "political" aims are too bizarre to affix to a modern axial tilt.

The WaTimes, to put it lightly, lies all the time. For the Greater Work, you see.

I think I got to the point about the whippings when I realized that this couldn't be entirely serious... I mean, if you get whipped so hard that the blood is spurting out, your shirt's gonna be ruined no matter what damn color it is. I didn't think shirts were generally worn for whippings, either.

I think I got to the point about the whippings when I realized that this couldn't be entirely serious... I mean, if you get whipped so hard that the blood is spurting out, your shirt's gonna be ruined no matter what damn color it is. I didn't think shirts were generally worn for whippings, either.
*Congrats* You get a cookie for being such a clever boy.

And to everyone who believed this thing was entirely true, open your MIND! Good lord, that's weak...

Spam value ?
Spam alert has now been issued:

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/archives/spam2.jpg

And to everyone who believed this thing was entirely true, open your MIND! Good lord, that's weak...

Actually, I believe the problem is almost the opposite. As they say, "it is important to keep an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out." I suspect it's a lack of THINKING rather than a lack of OPEN-MINDEDNESS that would lead people astray. In short, their minds are already so open that their brains fell out.

I didn't think shirts were generally worn for whippings, either.
No, I don't think they are...you see, in the movies I've seen, where the kidnapped white woman who breaks the rules of the harm she is sold into slavery to is whipped, the man whipping her is dressed in flowing pants, and is bare-chested (and often oiled). Of course...she ends up liking the whipping, and no blood is shed...oh, and sometimes the person whipping here is a naked woman who for some reason has her face obscured by a veil...

As they say, "it is important to keep an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out."
Sigged...finally...I've been looking for a good quote for AGES!

Actually, I believe the problem is almost the opposite. As they say, "it is important to keep an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out." I suspect it's a lack of THINKING rather than a lack of OPEN-MINDEDNESS that would lead people astray. In short, their minds are already so open that their brains fell out.
LOL! Excellent, very tacit