NationStates Jolt Archive


I Hope The Day After Tomorrow Was Right

Posi
22-07-2006, 18:21
-ish. A general cooling of upper North America would be nice. This weather is just miserable. Compared to the current summer heat, a year round winter would be nice. Or any winter for that matter.

It's so bloody hot out.:(
Laerod
22-07-2006, 18:22
Well, to be honest, one of the things that a dead gulf stream could mean is more extreme weather, i.e. hotter summers and colder winters...
Posi
22-07-2006, 18:24
Well, to be honest, one of the things that a dead gulf stream could mean is more extreme weather, i.e. hotter summers and colder winters...
Well, I'm north enough that the gulf stream brings up heat, even in the summer.
Zilam
22-07-2006, 18:27
Then we'd all have to move to mexico! the water there is just sub par
Druidville
22-07-2006, 18:28
It wasn't. If the gulf stream stopped tomorrow, we'd be dead before the supercooling hit.
Posi
22-07-2006, 18:29
It wasn't. If the gulf stream stopped tomorrow, we'd be dead before the supercooling hit.
Why?
Posi
22-07-2006, 22:00
Am I the only one who wants Global Warming to cause a temperture decrease in the northern- and southern-most parts of the Earth?
Corneliu
22-07-2006, 22:04
-ish. A general cooling of upper North America would be nice. This weather is just miserable. Compared to the current summer heat, a year round winter would be nice. Or any winter for that matter.

It's so bloody hot out.:(

Well...I'm quite enjoying nice cool weather for a change thanks to the rain that has been hitting here the last two days. The temps are in the low 70s.

As for the Day after Tomorrow, its a great movie but not totally based in reality but then...it is hollywood :D
Corneliu
22-07-2006, 22:06
It wasn't. If the gulf stream stopped tomorrow, we'd be dead before the supercooling hit.

Care to actually back that up?
Posi
22-07-2006, 22:25
Well...I'm quite enjoying nice cool weather for a change thanks to the rain that has been hitting here the last two days. The temps are in the low 70s.

As for the Day after Tomorrow, its a great movie but not totally based in reality but then...it is hollywood :D
I know. The director and producer both said they blew it way out of perportion to make the movie better. They do claim that the basic premise is based on science, and I hope it is right. I'm tired of sweating my balls off.
Lunatic Goofballs
22-07-2006, 22:28
I'm toying with the idea that global warming might actually be stemming off the next ice age. We're actually overdue for one. *nod*

Wouldn't it be screwed up if we were actually saving ourselves with CO2 and once we stop, we plunge Earth into a deep freeze?

I know I'd laugh. :)
Daruhjistan
22-07-2006, 22:28
If you're tired of the heat, move anywhere in Canada. Granted, if you're anywhere south of the NorthWest Territories the summers tend to be a bit on the warm side of things. But if you're anywhere except British Columbia, the winters are cold enough to freeze the balls off of a brass monkey.
Sarkhaan
22-07-2006, 22:31
I'm toying with the idea that global warming might actually be stemming off the next ice age. We're actually overdue for one. *nod*

Wouldn't it be screwed up if we were actually saving ourselves with CO2 and once we stop, we plunge Earth into a deep freeze?

I know I'd laugh. :)
nothing like a twisted sense of irony
Posi
22-07-2006, 22:53
If you're tired of the heat, move anywhere in Canada. Granted, if you're anywhere south of the NorthWest Territories the summers tend to be a bit on the warm side of things. But if you're anywhere except British Columbia, the winters are cold enough to freeze the balls off of a brass monkey.
I'm in the the South Cost of BC. The only part of Canada that never freezes.:(
Druidville
22-07-2006, 23:14
Care to actually back that up?

Sure. Never try to out-snide me. :D

One Opinion Piece (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5058474/)
Another Link (http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2004-05-24-michaels_x.htm)

A more neutral Piece from National Geographic (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/05/0518_040518_dayafter.html)
More informative writing from Nat Geo (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/05/0527_040527_DayAfter.html)
and finally, the Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_After_Tomorrow) article

You'll notice one thread in all that. The supercooling effect couldn't happen in days. At best, it'd take decades or centuries for it the temperature to drop. Hurricanes don't exist over dry land, and they certainly don't bring snow.

Read a bit, and you'll see.
Posi
22-07-2006, 23:18
Sure. Never try to out-snide me. :D

One Opinion Piece (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5058474/)
Another Link (http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2004-05-24-michaels_x.htm)

A more neutral Piece from National Geographic (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/05/0518_040518_dayafter.html)
More informative writing from Nat Geo (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/05/0527_040527_DayAfter.html)
and finally, the Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_After_Tomorrow) article

You'll notice one thread in all that. The supercooling effect couldn't happen in days. At best, it'd take decades or centuries for it the temperature to drop. Hurricanes don't exist over dry land, and they certainly don't bring snow.

Read a bit, and you'll see.
Oh, you mean dead by natural causes.

I read it as "The super cooling wouldn't kill you because you would already by killed by X."
Druidville
22-07-2006, 23:26
Oh, you mean dead by natural causes.

I read it as "The super cooling wouldn't kill you because you would already by killed by X."

Oh. In my original OP, Yeah. You'd be dead from old age, car accident, smoking, liver damage, or whatnot before all this happened. :)
Corneliu
22-07-2006, 23:28
Sure. Never try to out-snide me. :D

One Opinion Piece (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5058474/)
Another Link (http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2004-05-24-michaels_x.htm)


I'm ignoring these two pieces because they are opinions.

A more neutral Piece from National Geographic (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/05/0518_040518_dayafter.html)

An interesting article. I especially like this line But most scientists agree that the abrupt climate change depicted in the movie could not happen. And in response to concerns about this being extreme Emmerich dismisses such worries. "People are smart enough to know this is a movie," he said, "and in a movie everything is more extreme."

Environmentalists really need to learn the difference between fact and fiction and this movie is most definitely fiction.

More informative writing from Nat Geo (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/05/0527_040527_DayAfter.html)

I think this debunks your original comment: One of the effects created by the superstorms in the movie is the pulling down of supercool air from the troposphere that freezes people in a matter of seconds. There is nothing that suggests this could happen.

and finally, the Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_After_Tomorrow) article

And I believe this just talks about the movie

You'll notice one thread in all that. The supercooling effect couldn't happen in days. At best, it'd take decades or centuries for it the temperature to drop. Hurricanes don't exist over dry land, and they certainly don't bring snow.

Yes they do. Anyone with an ounce of sense could tell you that.

Read a bit, and you'll see.

Then why the hell did you say that we would be dead in seconds?
Posi
22-07-2006, 23:29
Oh. In my original OP, Yeah. You'd be dead from old age, car accident, smoking, liver damage, or whatnot before all this happened. :)
;) Gotcha.

I was sure you ment "The Gulf Stream stopping would cause a metor to land on your house.":headbang:
Wilgrove
22-07-2006, 23:30
I wouldn't mind an ice age. We could all ride around in dog sleds! MUSH!
Posi
22-07-2006, 23:31
I wouldn't mind an ice age. We could all ride around in dog sleds! MUSH!
Talk about a car alram.:)
Naliitr
22-07-2006, 23:32
Twas 107*F here yesterday. Not even the air conditioner and five fans makes things bearable.
Wilgrove
22-07-2006, 23:33
Talk about a car alram.:)

lol. Well I think in the Ice Age, the cars that aren't 4 wheel drive, and don't have snow threads (or snow chains) will pretty much be useless. So, buy those Huskies while you can!
Posi
22-07-2006, 23:36
Twas 107*F here yesterday. Not even the air conditioner and five fans makes things bearable.
*converts to Celcius*

Meh, 41C. It was 45C in my living room yesterday afternoon. That's 113F to you yanks.
Daruhjistan
22-07-2006, 23:37
I'm tired of sweating my balls off.

BC isn't usually that bloody hot, is it not? Eastern Ontario, though, gets bloody brutal summers.


I'm in the the South Cost of BC. The only part of Canada that never freezes.

Then move anywhere East of the Rockies. Say, I don't know, Winnipeg or Wainwright? That should give you the cold you crave comes wintertime. :P
Wilgrove
22-07-2006, 23:38
Hmm, too bad we can't move the earth away from the sun, making a longer orbit.
Eutrusca
22-07-2006, 23:39
-ish. A general cooling of upper North America would be nice. This weather is just miserable. Compared to the current summer heat, a year round winter would be nice. Or any winter for that matter.

It's so bloody hot out.:(
Ahhh! Global warming. Don'tcha jus' love it! :rolleyes:
Corneliu
22-07-2006, 23:39
Hmm, too bad we can't move the earth away from the sun, making a longer orbit.

That isn't going to do this planet any good.
Wilgrove
22-07-2006, 23:41
That isn't going to do this planet any good.

Eh, couldn't hurt to try though. and beside, we'll all be a bit cooler before we die of frost bite.
Posi
22-07-2006, 23:43
BC isn't usually that bloody hot, is it not? Eastern Ontario, though, gets bloody brutal summers.It is. The North is decent, you can wear sweatshirts some summer nights, but the coast and interior are literally on fire.

Then move anywhere East of the Rockies. Say, I don't know, Winnipeg or Wainwright? That should give you the cold you crave comes wintertime. :P
I might go to Fort McMurry, Alberta, if I fail my drivers test, again. If I pass, I'll be going to uni down here.
Posi
22-07-2006, 23:45
That isn't going to do this planet any good.
I dunno, if we are orbiting between Jupiter and Saturn, no amount of CO2 will keep us warm.
Wallonochia
23-07-2006, 00:27
I'm in the the South Cost of BC. The only part of Canada that never freezes.:(

If you want cold move to Sault Sainte Marie or Thunder Bay. They're both right on Lake Superior, and it gets pretty damned chilly there. I lived in Sault Sainte Marie, Michigan for a while, and I can attest that Soo, Canada is cold as hell.
Pepe Dominguez
23-07-2006, 00:29
It's 114 degrees here right now according to Weather.com.. feels like it too.
Posi
23-07-2006, 00:34
If you want cold move to Sault Sainte Marie or Thunder Bay. They're both right on Lake Superior, and it gets pretty damned chilly there. I lived in Sault Sainte Marie, Michigan for a while, and I can attest that Soo, Canada is cold as hell.
Then I would be an Ontarian. Everyone east of Alberta sucks pretty hardcore, but Ontarians are the worse of the bunch.:mad:
Quebec could be an exception if they ditched the language police.
Wallonochia
23-07-2006, 01:31
Then I would be an Ontarian. Everyone east of Alberta sucks pretty hardcore, but Ontarians are the worse of the bunch.:mad:
Quebec could be an exception if they ditched the language police.

Ah yes, the famous Western hatred for Ontario. Although I think it'd be safe to say that everyone except Ontarians hate Ontario.

I've heard a lot of good things about Edmonton. I've always wanted to visit.
Wanderjar
23-07-2006, 01:33
-ish. A general cooling of upper North America would be nice. This weather is just miserable. Compared to the current summer heat, a year round winter would be nice. Or any winter for that matter.

It's so bloody hot out.:(


Oh trust me, it is. There's another Ice Age coming in a few hundred, to a thousand years. Except, part of an Ice Age coming is sharp rise in temperature. Global Warming, which everyone seems so afraid of, is merely something the planet does before it goes into a big freeze...lol :)
Sel Appa
23-07-2006, 02:03
I don't think the Scots would like -130 degree blizzards...
New Granada
23-07-2006, 02:03
It was 118 degrees yesterday.
Wanderjar
23-07-2006, 02:10
I don't think the Scots would like -130 degree blizzards...


Much colder than that man. Scotland would become a giant glacier...which is sucks because the Highlands are beautiful.... :(
Posi
23-07-2006, 02:13
Ah yes, the famous Western hatred for Ontario. Although I think it'd be safe to say that everyone except Ontarians hate Ontario.

I've heard a lot of good things about Edmonton. I've always wanted to visit.
They deserve it *shakes fist*

Ignoring us and such.:mad:
Posi
23-07-2006, 02:14
I don't think the Scots would like -130 degree blizzards...
Well, the scots are going to have to adapt now aren't they?
JiangGuo
23-07-2006, 02:14
-ish. A general cooling of upper North America would be nice. This weather is just miserable. Compared to the current summer heat, a year round winter would be nice. Or any winter for that matter.

It's so bloody hot out.:(

As you wish. Tsunami coming right up!
Posi
23-07-2006, 02:18
As you wish. Tsunami coming right up!
I may not be an expert, but if there is a giant sheet of ice covering much of the north pacific, how are tsunami's going to be a threat?
Anglachel and Anguirel
23-07-2006, 02:39
-ish. A general cooling of upper North America would be nice. This weather is just miserable. Compared to the current summer heat, a year round winter would be nice. Or any winter for that matter.

It's so bloody hot out.:(
You think you've got it bad-- I spent today pulling out ivy in the Stygian humidity and hellish heat.