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What should the age of consent be for any activity deemed adult in manner?

What should the age of consent be for any activity deemed adult in manner?

26.

EDIT: Yes, I'm serious.

26.

EDIT: Yes, I'm serious.


Why do you say so?

BTW I am in favour for 18 being age of consent, just like lowering the drinking age to 18 and raising the driving age to 18..

On sex:
If it is fully consenual for both parties, why should it even be an issue? I think the only job of the law should be for to educate people about all possible risks and ways to prevent them.

On drinking:
I think it's ok, but it would be better if there was less of a social stress on it, for example, teaching that alcohol is something that should be enjoyed in moderation as a social sort of thing. So maybe lower than 21....16? Of course, in America I know this wouldn't work out too well....

On driving:
17 or 18. At 16, risk and judgment parts of the brain aren't completely developed, hence not a good idea.

On jobs:
Well, as long as the job isn't too risky, 13. For more skilled/high risk jobs, 17 or 18.

If it is fully consenual for both parties, why should it even be an issue? I think the only job of the law should be for to educate people about all possible risks and ways to prevent them.

The argument being at what time they can be considered mature enough to give consent.

The argument being at what time they can be considered mature enough to give consent.

If educated by parents and schools about social effects and risks and so forth, couldn't the person in question make the descision alone?

If educated by parents and schools about social effects and risks and so forth, couldn't the person in question make the descision alone?


But is every child going to recieve the adequate ammount of education on the subjects?

depends on the environment of the area the law is being applied but for my little old England 16 is a good age though I expect this to become less and less of an issue especially if the "offenders" are of the same age

the reason I say it shouldn't be lower under law is the vagina has trouble with semen and child birth usually before this age (yeah I paid attention during sex education)

please remember everyone is different in this area and it should be more to do with how the participants feel in this act than what a law states also note that a surprisingly small number of people have actually had sexual intercourse even at my age (16)

18 across the board. voting included

If educated by parents and schools about social effects and risks and so forth, couldn't the person in question make the descision alone?

Well, do you believe that, for example, a nine year old can really give consent?

Why do you say so?
Because engaging in adult activities without the mental maturity to deal with adult relationships is asking for disaster.

BTW I am in favour for 18 being age of consent, just like lowering the drinking age to 18 and raising the driving age to 18..
Actually, I don't think there should be an age of consent at all, but if there has to be one, my suggestion is in accordance with the paragraph above. I understand why society says there needs to be one -- protection against pedophiles and such -- but I'm more for subjective requirements in this case than an arbitrary age.

Because engaging in adult activities without the mental maturity to deal with adult relationships is asking for disaster.



Well if you go by that standards then there would be no AoC, because many people mature mentally at different ages..

Well if you go by that standards then there would be no AoC, because many people mature mentally at different ages..
yep, but if I'm forced to create an arbitrary number I say 26, because by then close to 99% of the population has that maturity...

(Don't yell SOURCE! at me because I pulled the number outta my arse.)

I'd say 18. Because it's cool.:D

Nah, really; it's the average age when people can think on WTF is anybody doing and why.

yep, but if I'm forced to create an arbitrary number I say 26, because by then close to 99% of the population has that maturity...

(Don't yell SOURCE! at me because I pulled the number outta my arse.)


yeah i was thinkg actually the last part of the brain get done, forming/maturing at like...22 or something.

16. We let people commit themselves to military training at 16. For the most part we start letting children get ready to "leave the nest" at 16. Why the hell shouldn't they be able to vote or screw. Drinking... Well... If they have to, 18 is probably better. Driving at 16 is dumb. 18 maybe, but 16-year-olds are shit drivers. I should know, since I am one (and I'm not getting my liscence until 18. All I need is my permit for now, since I really don't want to drive beyond the minimum effort needed to stay in practice).

yeah i was thinkg actually the last part of the brain get done, forming/maturing at like...22 or something.

Well, I'm 20 and all my personalities are mature.

-Me too.

-And me. :D

Nah, seriously, psichologists say that the age when the adolescence ends has always been thought to be 19.

Drinking and voting, just like driving: 16

Sex with someone within four years your own age: 13

Sex with anyone at any age: 16 (consensual sex assumed, but stated because of certian people's tendencies to jump on stuff like this)

Joining the army: 50. Let all the old fuckers do it if they love it so much.

Joining the army: 50. Let all the old fuckers do it if they love it so much.
Amen to that! The draft should be for only senior citizens.

Drinking and voting, just like driving: 16

Sex with someone within four years your own age: 13

Sex with anyone at any age: 16 (consensual sex assumed, but stated because of certian people's tendencies to jump on stuff like this)

Joining the army: 50. Let all the old fuckers do it if they love it so much.


I still say that 16 is too young, its like...the climax of puberty for most.and many just think with their dicks(guys anyways), but when you get a little older then you can perhaps think a little more clearly, IMO

Joining the army: 50. Let all the old fuckers do it if they love it so much.

Good point.


BTW I like it how it's in Spain right now:

-13 for under-18 sex.
-16 for over-18 sex.
-16 for working.
-23 for the weapons permission.
-For everything else, Masterc... er, 18.

I still say that 16 is too young, its like...the climax of puberty for most.and many just think with their dicks(guys anyways), but when you get a little older then you can perhaps think a little more clearly, IMO
Think a little more clearly? I beg to differ...

The fact is, 16 year olds are already screwing like rabbits. It hasn't caused society to crumble.

Nah, seriously, psichologists say that the age when the adolescence ends has always been thought to be 19.

So me still running around having crushes on people, getting excited about stupidly loud music, and bearing ill-defined grudges against authority figures at the ripe old age of 34 is just a case of arrested development?


Come to think of it, this is hardly a surprising diagnosis.

The funny thing is that the older you get the more you realise that you younger self knew so little and was so ill-informed. It is not a case that your older self knows it all, but has just gained a hint of Socrates was talking about. This leads to the tendency to feel that AoC should if anything be higher rather than lower.

21 for most things 25 for marriage

So me still running around having crushes on people, getting excited about stupidly loud music, and bearing ill-defined grudges against authority figures at the ripe old age of 34 is just a case of arrested development?

Great t.v. show :D

I'm done, I'll leave.

Amen to that! The draft should be for only senior citizens.


Wars would be almost amusing if that were the case.

Abe: Hold on -I gotta switch to my other glasses before I can fire off this rocket launcher... Hey, Henry! Balance the back of that thing, I'm about to break my hip!"
Henry: Ah, crap! I think I just filled my depends!
Benny: Hold on! My dentures fell out! Everybody stop! I need to find my teeth!
Abe: Great, that means I have to put the glasses I just had back on!
Henry: Yep. Definitely soiled my depends.
Joe: Who're we fighting again?
Fred: Isn't it time for Jell-O?

So me still running around having crushes on people, getting excited about stupidly loud music, and bearing ill-defined grudges against authority figures at the ripe old age of 34 is just a case of arrested development?


Come to think of it, this is hardly a surprising diagnosis.


It's a problem of maturity and temper, not a problem of critical thought; if you being a teenager lived surrounded by loud music, when you're 34 and you see a teenager hearing loud music probably you won't get excited about stupidly loud music.

Furthermore, a 34 years old guy never says "bbe, dontcha luv me bbe?"

On sex:
If it is fully consenual for both parties, why should it even be an issue? I think the only job of the law should be for to educate people about all possible risks and ways to prevent them.
The state owes you nothing, and most ceartainly does not need to put a helmet on the retarded peverbal social child who rams thier head into a wall. Mindyou, if you wish to go to a private school where they teach sex ed then fine, but don't go wasting my tax money on your bad parental skills..

A new system should be made, they should go back to courting, where there needs to be written consent by the legal gaurdians, and the boy or girl for to have the permission to engage in sexual activity. This encourages people to be honost with thier parents, and open about thier feelings, as it will show that parents aren't just discipliners, they're people, and they understand how you feel.

On drinking:
I think it's ok, but it would be better if there was less of a social stress on it, for example, teaching that alcohol is something that should be enjoyed in moderation as a social sort of thing. So maybe lower than 21....16? Of course, in America I know this wouldn't work out too well....
Sixteen is a reasonable age, that's when people start drinking anyway. Nothing wrong with a little alchahol, it's excessvely that endangers lives, and even then as long as they're not driving while under the influence.

On driving:
17 or 18. At 16, risk and judgment parts of the brain aren't completely developed, hence not a good idea.
I see people at thirty who's brains aren't completely developed. You underestimate the youth, sixteen is an okay age for driving. Driving is a huge step in the direction of self-depedance, which is precisely what we need to teach this generation.

On jobs:
Well, as long as the job isn't too risky, 13. For more skilled/high risk jobs, 17 or 18.
I'd say the same, maybe even twelve for mediocre jobs to sixteen for skilled jobs. The young as long as they're competant can be just as good a worker as the old, sure thier muscles are not fully developed, but they have the energy of a champion, and the will to prove us wrong. And that's really all one needs.

It's a problem of maturity and temper, not a problem of critical thought; if you being a teenager lived surrounded by loud music, when you're 34 and you see a teenager hearing loud music probably you won't.

I can't quite unpack that sentence, is there a word missing or something towards the end?

Furthermore, a 34 years old guy never says "bbe, dontcha luv me bbe?"

Bbe, dontcha luv me bbe? - and thus I refute this part.

The state owes you nothing, and most ceartainly does not need to put a helmet on the retarded peverbal social child who rams thier head into a wall...

...A new system should be made, they should go back to courting, where there needs to be written consent by the legal gaurdians, and the boy or girl for to have the permission to engage in sexual activity.

So, you believe the state owes people nothing, but should enforce some peculiar kind of wooing practice? Something of a contradiction there, no?

I can't quite unpack that sentence, is there a word missing or something towards the end?

Whoops! Fixed


Bbe, dontcha luv me bbe? - and thus I refute this part.

Damn! You've ruined for this week my plan to rule the world! :mp5:
-And mine.
-And mine too.

:D

It's a problem of maturity and temper, not a problem of critical thought; if you being a teenager lived surrounded by loud music, when you're 34 and you see a teenager hearing loud music probably you won't get excited about stupidly loud music.

Ah, but I do, and indeed on a pretty much daily basis, I just display my excitement in a slightly more laidback manner.

Ah, but I do, and indeed on a pretty much daily basis, I just display my excitement in a slightly more laidback manner.

Hmm, I see.

I guess, listening/playing Masterplan's "Spirit Never Die" on 10?

BTW, when I look for mental relaxation I nibble my knuckles, it feels so [sometimes painful, but so] great...

Don't look me with those eyes, I'm telling the truth! Oh, please! stop looking at me with those eyes!

Age of consent should be as follows:
16 for a Learner's Permit on Driving. after six-months, a comprehensive driving course, and a rigorous exam, driving except between 1am to 5am. After 17, full driving priveleges. For those that don't complete the outlined pre-requisites, then 17 for 1am to 5am and 18 for full driving.

Sex: 18, but legal if there is less than a two year difference, but always illegal if one party is under 14.

Drinking, voting, smoking, etc.: 18. If you are old enough to serve your country in war, you are old enough to get piss drunk, vote a loser into office, start the acquisition of lung cancer, and gamble away everything but your soul.

Putting your soul on the line (selling, gambling, betting, leasing, etc): Never. This way we can stop worrying about the Devil coming up with catchy sales propositions, and any and all contracts signed become null and void since they would be outlawed in the area where they are signed.

Drinking and voting, just like driving: 16

Sex with someone within four years your own age: 13

Sex with anyone at any age: 16 (consensual sex assumed, but stated because of certian people's tendencies to jump on stuff like this)

Joining the army: 50. Let all the old fuckers do it if they love it so much.

With the exception of joining the army, I concur. Really, even though there are more baby boomers than the most of the people in the common age range of this forum, they aren't the people I really want defending me if we are attacked by army full of 20 year olds.

With the exception of joining the army, I concur. Really, even though there are more baby boomers than the most of the people in the common age range of this forum, they aren't the people I really want defending me if we are attacked by army full of 20 year olds.
Maybe they wouldn't be so eager to start the conflicts if their own wrinkled arses are on the line.

Maybe they wouldn't be so eager to start the conflicts if their own wrinkled arses are on the line.

Sounds like a bit of ageism in your tone there... you aren't anti-boomer are you?

Sounds like a bit of ageism in your tone there... you aren't anti-boomer are you?
They are the ones sending kids to die in Iraq...so I suppose I have a definate bias.

They are the ones sending kids to die in Iraq...so I suppose I have a definate bias.

I get that. If only they didn't outnumber us in the voting process... at least conscription isn't a factor... yet.

I get that. If only they didn't outnumber us in the voting process... at least conscription isn't a factor... yet.
And I apologise, that last comment was really too US-centric. I'd like to take this opportunity to also blast the Canadian government for letting our people die in Afghanistan. Fuck you Harper...I'd like to see the day the leaders go out to the front lines and try it out.

And I apologise, that last comment was really too US-centric. I'd like to take this opportunity to also blast the Canadian government for letting our people die in Afghanistan. Fuck you Harper...I'd like to see the day the leaders go out to the front lines and try it out.

In all fairness, those people in Afghanistan are volunteers. I'm not necessarily pro-Harper, but I'm pro-stability in Afghanistan... it's too bad that it was a US-led thing from the beginning. People wouldn't think twice if the US hadn't led the initial invasion.

Just like Chef said is should be 17.