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after fleeing to Jordan and saying he'ld never go back. He's wanted in Syria so he can't go there either.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006330629,00.html

(the sun but still.. can anyone confirm this?)

Banished Islamofascist Begs For Britain's Protection

O, the irony! Omar Bakri fled the UK after spending years preaching hate from his London mosque, and got out just ahead of a British deportation order. The Home Secretary banned him from ever returning to Britain after Bakri left -- for Lebanon. Now that the Hezbollah lunatics he supports started a war they cannot handle, Bakri now demands that Britain allow him to return -- on humanitarian grounds!

In the somewhat purple prose of the British tabloid, The Sun:

EXILED preacher of hate Omar Bakri has begged the Royal Navy to rescue him from war-torn Beirut.

The Muslim cleric who fled Britain last year, tried to board a ship full of women and children yesterday but was turned away.

He also wrote to the British embassy asking to be allowed back on “humanitarian grounds”.

In an email to officials, dole scrounger Bakri pleaded: “The current situation in Beirut left me without any choice but to appeal to you to grant me a visit visa to see my children for one month.”

Bakri left his family behind when he took off for Lebanon, and apparently they have not made much of an attempt to join him. They must have strong ties to Britain; Bakri himself spent twenty years in the UK after fleeing Syria in the wake of a coup attempt there. That is one of the reasons why Bakri begged Britain to allow him back; he's still a wanted man in Syria and cannot exit Lebanon through Damascus. Apparently the Assads like him even less than the British.

When he did leave Britain, he made it clear that he would never willingly return to the nest of infidels he had left behind. Just four months ago, he told reporters: “When I left England I bought a one-way ticket out. I never want to see the place again.” Now, apparently, he wants to make that a round trip.

Britain has thus far refused, and an evacuation crew kicked him off a ship in Beirut when he attempted to stow away. Why should they allow him to return? He preached hate and war, praised al-Qaeda, and railed endlessly about the evils of the West and Zionists. Now he finds himself in the middle of the war he actively demanded and pursued, and all of a sudden he wants the Western infidels to rescue him from it.


http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006330629,00.html

(the sun but still.. can anyone confirm this?)

(the sun but still.. can anyone confirm this?)
Never fear, I read the story last night at the one news resource you need: the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5202018.stm).

Well, he's got balls, you have to give him that.

For running away from immediate danger into a place he was just barely not desported from?
Pussy.

Though if he was smart, he would escape to a different country instead.

Never fear, I read the story last night at the one news resource you need: the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5202018.stm).

I bow to your Google-Fu. That makes me feel much better.

Never fear, I read the story last night at the one news resource you need: the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5202018.stm).

Oh Gawd a BBC shill.

Anyway, single source news aside, I'll bet 13 cookies to 2 that the UK lets him back in within 5 years should he survive that long.

For running away from immediate danger into a place he was just barely not desported from?
Pussy.

Though if he was smart, he would escape to a different country instead.

It seems, the only options he has is Isreal (not a good idea) and Syria, where he's wanted.

Well, I say if he preached for a war, then he's got what he wanted.

Maybe now that he's accomplished his goal of starting a war, he wants to do music videos with Madonna, or open a show on Drury Lane.

Or maybe he doesn't want to fight in a war until he gets that liposuction job (look at his jowls).

Object lesson in burning bridges behind one. Let him lie in the bed he made.

after fleeing to Jordan and saying he'ld never go back. He's wanted in Syria so he can't go there either.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006330629,00.html

(the sun but still.. can anyone confirm this?)

Banished Islamofascist Begs For Britain's Protection

O, the irony! Omar Bakri fled the UK after spending years preaching hate from his London mosque, and got out just ahead of a British deportation order. The Home Secretary banned him from ever returning to Britain after Bakri left -- for Lebanon. Now that the Hezbollah lunatics he supports started a war they cannot handle, Bakri now demands that Britain allow him to return -- on humanitarian grounds!

In the somewhat purple prose of the British tabloid, The Sun:

EXILED preacher of hate Omar Bakri has begged the Royal Navy to rescue him from war-torn Beirut.

The Muslim cleric who fled Britain last year, tried to board a ship full of women and children yesterday but was turned away.

He also wrote to the British embassy asking to be allowed back on “humanitarian grounds”.

In an email to officials, dole scrounger Bakri pleaded: “The current situation in Beirut left me without any choice but to appeal to you to grant me a visit visa to see my children for one month.”

Bakri left his family behind when he took off for Lebanon, and apparently they have not made much of an attempt to join him. They must have strong ties to Britain; Bakri himself spent twenty years in the UK after fleeing Syria in the wake of a coup attempt there. That is one of the reasons why Bakri begged Britain to allow him back; he's still a wanted man in Syria and cannot exit Lebanon through Damascus. Apparently the Assads like him even less than the British.

When he did leave Britain, he made it clear that he would never willingly return to the nest of infidels he had left behind. Just four months ago, he told reporters: “When I left England I bought a one-way ticket out. I never want to see the place again.” Now, apparently, he wants to make that a round trip.

Britain has thus far refused, and an evacuation crew kicked him off a ship in Beirut when he attempted to stow away. Why should they allow him to return? He preached hate and war, praised al-Qaeda, and railed endlessly about the evils of the West and Zionists. Now he finds himself in the middle of the war he actively demanded and pursued, and all of a sudden he wants the Western infidels to rescue him from it.


http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006330629,00.html

(the sun but still.. can anyone confirm this?)
Since it's been confirmed...let the stupid bigot pay for his crimes. Britain shouldn't step in.

Ahh, the chickens will come home to roost. Someone is kicked out of Great Brittan for spouting hate and encouraging terrorism. He goes to Lebanon and is now afraid for his life because terrorists in Lebanon started a war with Israel. :rolleyes: How ironic. How cowardly of him. If he truly believed what he preached, he would be in Southern Lebanon working with the terrorists.

The sad part is that he'll probably find a way of getting here. Our gov't is usually pretty shit on that front - look at all the crap we've had to put up with the likes of Abu Hamza - I'd like to rip that bloody hook off and force-feed him with it!!! :mad:

It seems, the only options he has is Isreal (not a good idea) and Syria, where he's wanted.

What is he wanted for in Syria?

Never fear, I read the story last night at the one news resource you need: the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5202018.stm).

I have to second that........but only as my aunt and uncle work for news 24 :p

What is he wanted for in Syria?
Being a douche, probably of the wrong Muslim sect.

Well, I say if he preached for a war, then he's got what he wanted.

Maybe now that he's accomplished his goal of starting a war, he wants to do music videos with Madonna, or open a show on Drury Lane.

Or maybe he doesn't want to fight in a war until he gets that liposuction job (look at his jowls).

He want's a tour with Babs to raise money for "The poor and opressed of Lebanon." :rolleyes:

What is he wanted for in Syria?
Ironically, for treason. :rolleyes:

Ironically, for treason. :rolleyes:

Well, he can't go through Syria, it wouldn't be wise for him to try to go South through Israel. The Brits won't let him on the boat. Guess he need to learn to swim or head to Turkey. :p

Being a douche, probably of the wrong Muslim sect.He's wanted for attempting to bring down the Baathist regime in Syria. People would probably be praising his efforts had his coup plot been part of another government's plot and had been sucessful. I guess one could draw parallels how one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist, what with the US having being so intent on bringing down the Baathist regime in Iraq. And the US eventually citing a poor human rights record as a reason for the invasion, after several months of not being able to find any WMD. Syria doesn't exactly have a clean sheet when it comes to human rights.

I also noticed someone comparing Abu Hamza and Omar Bakri. Bakri and Omar aren't on the same wavelength. Whilst Bakri has made some rather questionable statements, he was also frequently quoted out of context, and has made calls that the Islamist terrorist movement not to target any civilians and spoken out against terrorism as well. I believe he was one of the many British Muslims to speak out against the kidnapping and subsequent beheading of Ken Bigley in Iraq. Whereas Hamza was convicted by a British court and has made public his support for al Qaida.

All-in-all, I probably wouldn't be opposed to Bakri's readmission to the UK.

I do like one of his quote particularly. It just makes me smile, a very dark a dry smile that is.
I think that would be political suicide for the British government if they started to deport and imprison all extremists and radicals, Because if, God forbid, something happened again, they would have nobody left to blame

I also noticed someone comparing Abu Hamza and Omar Bakri. Bakri and Omar aren't on the same wavelength. Whilst Bakri has made some rather questionable statements, he was also frequently quoted out of context, and has made calls that the Islamist terrorist movement not to target any civilians and spoken out against terrorism as well. I believe he was one of the many British Muslims to speak out against the kidnapping and subsequent beheading of Ken Bigley in Iraq. Whereas Hamza was convicted by a British court and has made public his support for al Qaida.

All-in-all, I probably wouldn't be opposed to Bakri's readmission to the UK.

I do like one of his quote particularly. It just makes me smile, a very dark a dry smile that is.

And this is taken out of context how:

"We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."

"As stated, there is no restriction on place (it could even occur in Mecca)—so schools are legitimate targets of jihad, but it is up to local mujahedeen [those who engage in jihad] to decide the best strategy."

His idea of "equality":

No private schools will be allowed, and there will be an Islamically influenced national curriculum. No new churches will be permitted, but existing ones will be allowed. Private consumption of alcohol will be permitted, but not its public sale. All state officials must be Muslims, save for the Caliph's assistants to advise him about relations with non-Muslim citizens. Muslims could not convert to Christianity on pain of execution. Evangelistic campaigns would be forbidden, but people would be free to present Christianity on TV, in debates, etc.

And this is taken out of context how:

"We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."

"As stated, there is no restriction on place (it could even occur in Mecca)—so schools are legitimate targets of jihad, but it is up to local mujahedeen [those who engage in jihad] to decide the best strategy."

His idea of "equality":

No private schools will be allowed, and there will be an Islamically influenced national curriculum. No new churches will be permitted, but existing ones will be allowed. Private consumption of alcohol will be permitted, but not its public sale. All state officials must be Muslims, save for the Caliph's assistants to advise him about relations with non-Muslim citizens. Muslims could not convert to Christianity on pain of execution. Evangelistic campaigns would be forbidden, but people would be free to present Christianity on TV, in debates, etc.I did say he had also made questionable statements. Did I not? Besides, he's is also quoted as saying the opposite of the quotes you gave.

He can rant and rave about wanting an islamic state all he wants. He's not going to get it. And if he somehow did it would be through the political apathy of the nation. And then hence, in my eyes, they would deserve it. Perhaps your concern about institutionalised religion would better be saved for the religion that actually is rather than the religion that could be.

Omar Bakri is painted as a threat to the UK. He is merely a scapegoat. If anything is a threat to the UK then it comes from those who erode the civil liberties of this country in the name of protecting us from people like Omar Bakri.

In the end I believe he should be let in, not because he is a good innocent man, but because I'd wish to think that this country still has a modicum of humanity left and will not resort to 'an eye for an eye' politics.