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This afternoon was punctuated by an attempt by my loving mother and family to have me committed into an 'institution' for my 'drug and alcohol problem'. Neglecting, of course, the fact I no longer smoke pot and my drinking is funny, frankly.

Yes, I have two glasses of vodka and coke first thing in morning, followed by three shots of tia maria in my latte, but I also have five cups of flat white, completely alcohol free. I also don't drink again until well into the afternoon, when I'll normally have a couple glasses of spirits, and cap the night off with a bottle of good Riesling. The thing is, I still maintain my affairs, study harder then I would sober, and enjoy a balanced life. This doesn't make me a drunk or an alcoholic, it makes me a poor little rich kid who likes to drink, because looking at his life without the aid of 75mg of Zoloft, a half dozen Vicodin and thrice the legal blood alcohol limit is depressing.

I need to deal with my girlfriends bulimia and BPD, I need to deal with my mother's alcoholism and manic mood swings, I need to deal with my myriad of mentally unbalanced, but lovable friends, I need to deal my own mind crumbling around me, I need to deal with the fact no one around me is stable enough to help me when I need help. So I drink.

I drink, I fall down and never sleep because my dreams are to horrid for even me to sit through. If any person out there can say that holding the lives of all those around you together, whilst your's falls apart, doesn't entitle you to a few moments of guilty pleasure, I'll call you a liar.

Bottoms up.

You sound like an alcoholic to me.

You're an alcoholic. *nod*

You sound like an alcoholic to me.
That's a humorous, classy, high-functioning, alcoholic, to you, Mister!

If that's alcoholism, it certainly isn't the worst case I've ever heard of, and it sounds like you can function. An intervention seems overkill. Might want to work on it over time though.

try going through two days without a drink, if you survive your not an alchaholic, if you dont you are

You're an alcoholic. *nod*
I can still recite the entire script to Othello, I'm good:P

psh.. if you dont' go to meetings, you aren't an alcoholic.

you are however, a more than recreational drinker.

pickled liver, anyone?

If that's alcoholism, it certainly isn't the worst case I've ever heard of, and it sounds like you can function. An intervention seems overkill. Might want to work on it over time though.
Hmmm... I like this plan

psh.. if you dont' go to meetings, you aren't an alcoholic.

you are however, a more than recreational drinker.

pickled liver, anyone?
I'm a yuppy, I eat well and detox. My liver is in excellent condition, at my check-up last month

try going through two days without a drink, if you survive your not an alchaholic, if you dont you are
This plan sounds very boring, but I'm up for it. I shall go from whenever I sober up tommorow, for fourty-eight, without a drink

This plan sounds very boring, but I'm up for it. I shall go from whenever I sober up tommorow, for fourty-eight, without a drink

do a diary and get your parents/siblings/gran to hide the booze

I can still recite the entire script to Othello, I'm good:P

"I realized when I became a reformed alcoholic, 'Hey, I'm the same asshole. I just have fewer dents in my car.' "-Robin Williams.

do a diary and get your parents/siblings/gran to hide the booze
There's alot of hidden booze around here and I don't trust them with it! :P j/k

"I realized when I became a reformed alcoholic, 'Hey, I'm the same asshole. I just have fewer dents in my car.' "-Robin Williams.
I don't drive. There's a reason why, but like the reason I don't ice-skate, I block it out

There's alot of hidden booze around here and I don't trust them with it! :P j/k

lol

I'm a yuppy, I eat well and detox. My liver is in excellent condition, at my check-up last month
if you have a drink every day, you don't detox. i believe full detox takes a wee bit longer than the times you described in the opening post.

if you have a drink every day, you don't detox. i believe full detox takes a wee bit longer than the times you described in the opening post.
Seven days, I full detox takes seven days. Once monthly seems to do me fine. You can tell when I'm not drinking coffee, taking my meds or drinking, because I don't have pills, a coffee cup and a glass of chardonnay in my hand :P

You're elite, not an alcoholic. :)

This afternoon was etc.... Bottoms up.
sounds like fun. i go through periods like that too. although mostly when i think i don't have too much to do cuz unlike you my drinking definitely affects my ability to live.

I'm a yuppy, I eat well and detox. My liver is in excellent condition, at my check-up last month
you liver is in excellent condition because you are still very young.

you are, as you say, a high functioning, funny, classy alcoholic.

your life would be easier if you worked on it. obviously it wouldnt be enough to just drop the booze, you have to work out all your other psychological/behavioral/relationship issues also. its a big job.

my point is that you will have to deal with it sooner or later. if you dont, it will kill you. it wont kill you this year or next but in 10 years you will be a physical and mental wreck. that would be a terrible waste of a man with the kind of potential you have.

try asking your most sane, least alcoholic friend his opinion of they way you are behaving. if he thinks you are "out of control" and behaving very badly, you should believe him and find a good therapist. if he thinks you behave OK but drink too much, you need to start thinking about quitting or cutting back. but you know that much already, you just arent ready to do it.

I doubt you care what I say, but I'm gonna say it anyway.

You are abusing alcohol, that alone is a problem with it.

Are you addicted? there really isn't any way to tell without going through proper detox and see what happens.

It's probably not going to be fun to do that, and since you are on prescription medications along with your alcohol it's probably best that your detox is done under medical supervision.

It's even possible that you are abusing your medication, in fact, I get that feeling.

Your life sucks, I get that. My mom has BPD, my dad was alcoholic, my family full of sociopaths and add in a former abusive boyfriend, and friends who "needed" me, working 80 hours a week, going to school and being everyone's keeper, I turned to drugs and alcohol. Detox sucked, and I was unable to function for quite a while, which isn't appealing to someone like me. I went completely cold turkey, nearly died, got suicidal, and my OCD got worse, to the point I couldn't really leave the house.

Yeah, all of that is much better now.... 7 years later. Life without drug and alcohol abuse, without feeling obligated to "save" everyone, without being perfect, it's great. I control my life now, I make a choice to be in control, and there are days where I just don't want to, I want to go get high, I want to go get drunk, but I don't because I know that if I did, I wouldn't be in control anymore, and I can't handle the thought. See? I am still screwed up, just now I am screwed up and sober.

My advice? talk to your doctor, tell him that you are having a problem, see what he can do to help you. You probably do need to go into the hospital for a few days, it's not the end of the world if you do, I promise ;)

TG me if you must.

Sounds like you're a functioning alcoholic (ie. you can function properly despite your drinking). You might want to cut back a bit, because in the long term (10-20 years) you will suffer if you keep up your current drinking.

Some people think that if you take a shot of vodka you are immediately an alcoholic, especially the straight-edgers.

Some people think that if you take a shot of vodka you are immediately an alcoholic, especially the straight-edgers.

psh. bunch of bull. most straight edgers i know used to be able to drink with the best of us. they just don't like being hung over...

Sounds like you're a functioning alcoholic (ie. you can function properly despite your drinking). You might want to cut back a bit, because in the long term (10-20 years) you will suffer if you keep up your current drinking.
whether or not he appears to be functioning isn't the problem, alcohol abuse is not healthy physically (as you pointed out) or psychologically. There is a difference between drinking and abusing alcohol.

psh. bunch of bull. most straight edgers i know used to be able to drink with the best of us. they just don't like being hung over...

Eh. From what Ive seen, the cool people just dont drink or do drugs, they dont call themselves straightedge. Its the people who label themselves who are complete pricks.

psh. bunch of bull. most straight edgers i know used to be able to drink with the best of us. they just don't like being hung over...
when the come-down is lower than the high is high then it's time to stop... for a few days anyway.

Yes, I have two glasses of vodka and coke first thing in morning, followed by three shots of tia maria in my latte, but I also have five cups of flat white, completely alcohol free. I also don't drink again until well into the afternoon, when I'll normally have a couple glasses of spirits, and cap the night off with a bottle of good Riesling. The thing is, I still maintain my affairs, study harder then I would sober, and enjoy a balanced life. This doesn't make me a drunk or an alcoholic, it makes me a poor little rich kid who likes to drink, because looking at his life without the aid of 75mg of Zoloft, a half dozen Vicodin and thrice the legal blood alcohol limit is depressing.


You have problems and you're not in control of them. You need help, and not from the bottle either.

You have problems and you're not in control of them. You need help, and not from the bottle either.

I think his only problem is those dreams. He should probably see someone about that.

I think his only problem is those dreams. He should probably see someone about that.
because you don't think it's a problem that he needs alcohol and prescription drugs to "deal with life" ?

because you don't think it's a problem that he needs alcohol and prescription drugs to "deal with life" ?

Whatever works.

Bro you;re an alchogloic. VBut I', fuckign qated haha.

Bro you;re an alchogloic. VBut I', fuckign qated haha.
Tha nakes fucking no sense!

Whatever works.
oh, so you are fine with serial killers?
they function fine, you know as long as they have people to kill.

oh, so you are fine with serial killers?
they function fine, you know as long as they have people to kill.
Smunkeee is alwaysfucing right.

This afternoon was punctuated by an attempt by my loving mother and family to have me committed into an 'institution' for my 'drug and alcohol problem'. Neglecting, of course, the fact I no longer smoke pot and my drinking is funny, frankly.

Yes, I have two glasses of vodka and coke first thing in morning, followed by three shots of tia maria in my latte, but I also have five cups of flat white, completely alcohol free. I also don't drink again until well into the afternoon, when I'll normally have a couple glasses of spirits, and cap the night off with a bottle of good Riesling. The thing is, I still maintain my affairs, study harder then I would sober, and enjoy a balanced life. This doesn't make me a drunk or an alcoholic, it makes me a poor little rich kid who likes to drink, because looking at his life without the aid of 75mg of Zoloft, a half dozen Vicodin and thrice the legal blood alcohol limit is depressing.

I need to deal with my girlfriends bulimia and BPD, I need to deal with my mother's alcoholism and manic mood swings, I need to deal with my myriad of mentally unbalanced, but lovable friends, I need to deal my own mind crumbling around me, I need to deal with the fact no one around me is stable enough to help me when I need help. So I drink.

I drink, I fall down and never sleep because my dreams are to horrid for even me to sit through. If any person out there can say that holding the lives of all those around you together, whilst your's falls apart, doesn't entitle you to a few moments of guilty pleasure, I'll call you a liar.

Bottoms up.


sounds like a classic case of self medication.

Either that or your an alchohol abuser..or addicted to it.

before your liver explodes you may want to explore alternatives .

Smunkeee is alwaysfucing right.
is your keyboard broke? or are you drunk?

is your keyboard broke? or are you drunk?
Drunk drunk drunk! Oh man, I want too be sick then I can go back to my gf. But until i throw up i afraid ill tyhrow up all over her or seomthing yucky.

Have you thought about killing yourself?

What about trying to help your mother with her maniac behaviors, or your girl with her bulimia if you really love them?, instead of just sitting in your ass to drink and try to "forget it and live with it"?

Drinking to "forget my problems" is for the lazy and the useless. If you cannot handle it alone, look for therapy.

Life is not meant to be easy, so take it like a man.

is your keyboard broke? or are you drunk?
He's drunk.

Thank God I know the drunk language.

And I have to say, I agree with you and Ashmoria.

He's drunk.

Thank God I know the drunk language.

And I have to say, I agree with you and Ashmoria.
Rufffy!! Another wise generalite.

Rufffy!! Another wise generalite.
Wise?

How much have you drank?

I can still recite the entire script to Othello, I'm good:P
whoa! the entire scripts?! I love that play...

Wise?

How much have you drank?
I can't remembeber. Severval beers,, vodka, rum abd coke, i dont knw?

Wise?

How much have you drank?

Lots...He called you wise...

You know I love you, Ruffy ;)

Lots...He called you wise...

You know I love you, Ruffy ;)
Heh. Good call.

I can't remembeber. Severval beers,, vodka, rum abd coke, i dont knw?
Word of advice, stay away from serious threads.

:) :p

Word of advice, stay away from serious threads.

:) :p
Blah. Maybe I should. Sorry.

Lots...He called you wise...

You know I love you, Ruffy ;)
You love me!

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/Goomg/gif/smilies/smile_pink_1.gif

Blah. Maybe I should. Sorry.
*nods*

Now then, put your head in this basket.

*nods*

Now then, put your head in this basket.
Throw up lots just now. Feeling better.

...because looking at his life without the aid of 75mg of Zoloft, a half dozen Vicodin and thrice the legal blood alcohol limit is depressing.

...I drink, I fall down and never sleep because my dreams are to horrid for even me to sit through.
It's not the quantity that makes you an alcoholic, but these remarks.

Throw up lots just now. Feeling better.
What would your mother say?

What would your mother say?
She was thee for half the party. But shes asleep now.

She was thee for half the party. But shes asleep now.
OMG, I am so stupid, I was thinking "geez, it's 9am freak" then I remembered that you live like halfway around the world.........god I need sleep.

If that's alcoholism, it certainly isn't the worst case I've ever heard of, and it sounds like you can function. An intervention seems overkill. Might want to work on it over time though.
Because it isn't the worst case of alcoholism you've heard of, and intervention is overkill? Review his points. He uses alcohol to cope with stress. He consumes a fairly large amount daily, and uses pills which are notorious for interacting negatively with alcohol. He is actually calling out for help, and using alcohol as a crutch because he doesn’t feel there is anyone that can give him that help, and goes as far as to say his life is falling apart.

Sorry, but that definitely sounds intervention worthy.

And considering that when friends and family intervene, they do so with the clear knowledge that they risk forever alienating their loved one, BUT THEY DO IT ANYWAY, shows the level of concern they have to have to take that step.

OMG, I am so stupid, I was thinking "geez, it's 9am freak" then I remembered that you live like halfway around the world.........god I need sleep.
Lol! I'm not that bad! It's almost 3am here. I got homr around 1:30am and since then.. My heads just been spinning. Fuck I wish I could sleep too!

I'm a yuppy, I eat well and detox. My liver is in excellent condition, at my check-up last month
My dad's not an alcoholic either. He works in a dry camp for two weeks out of every month, so that alone, that lack of alcohol for two weeks makes him not an alcoholic. He has Hep C which is slowly but surely destroying his liver, but the two weeks he's home, he starts his day with a vodka and juice and continues drinking until bedtime. Not an alcoholic, just a guy relaxing during his time off. The alcohol is speeding up his slow Hep C death, but hey, he works hard and is entitled to his guilty pleasure, right? He never acts drunk, in fact, you can hardly tell when he's been drinking and when he hasn't, aside from his glassy eyes, and the reek of liquor emanating from him...and the fact that my mom quietly hides the keys to all the vehicles, and stops him from operating machinery once it's past noon. No, not an alcoholic. Just a man who likes his booze now and again.:rolleyes:

Bro you;re an alchogloic. VBut I', fuckign qated haha.
Quit posting while drunk. Seriously.

She was thee for half the party. But shes asleep now.
She let you drink? :eek:

My mom sees me with a damn wine cooler in my hand and she freak out!

:rolleyes: :(

Parents are like NOOOOO ALCAHOL EVER

Grandad is like; here have a beer.

I like my grandad

Parents are like NOOOOO ALCAHOL EVER

Grandad is like; here have a beer.

I like my grandad
My dad's side of the family is like that, it's great.

My aunt got me drunk at the family reunion, twas fun, but the hour drive home was a bit.. annoying. :p

If that's alcoholism, it certainly isn't the worst case I've ever heard of, and it sounds like you can function. An intervention seems overkill. Might want to work on it over time though.
Alcoholism is like that, though. Most drunks can function at their jobs until the day that they can't, if that makes sense. Usually, it's the family life that falls apart before the work life.

OK. It's 8:34am, I'm awake, my head hurts. Traditionally I would apply the old adage 'avoid hangovers, stay drunk'. But, instead, we're going to try the 'stick it out' method. I've been sober thirty minutes and I wonder how you people do it, everything is less interesting when your sober. I have to go to a gallery series opening tonight, and I'm afraid I'm going to look at the art and go "You know what? po-mo is bullshit, veiled with a $2000 price tag!"

OK. It's 8:34am, I'm awake, my head hurts. Traditionally I would apply the old adage 'avoid hangovers, stay drunk'. But, instead, we're going to try the 'stick it out' method. I've been sober thirty minutes and I wonder how you people do it, everything is less interesting when your sober. I have to go to a gallery series opening tonight, and I'm afraid I'm going to look at the art and go "You know what? po-mo is bullshit, veiled with a $2000 price tag!"


Screw it. Have a drink. It's not like a gallery opening requires physical dexterity.

Screw it. Have a drink. It's not like a gallery opening requires physical dexterity.
Oh God, they are so much better when you're sloshed. Especially when you begin seeking out the other drunk people, they're easy to pick, the ones who have waitstaff assigned to them permanently.

OK. It's 8:34am, I'm awake, my head hurts. Traditionally I would apply the old adage 'avoid hangovers, stay drunk'. But, instead, we're going to try the 'stick it out' method. I've been sober thirty minutes and I wonder how you people do it, everything is less interesting when your sober. I have to go to a gallery series opening tonight, and I'm afraid I'm going to look at the art and go "You know what? po-mo is bullshit, veiled with a $2000 price tag!"
maybe you are just very very very dehydrated? drink some water, better yet, drink some orange juice, try to have a good day.

maybe you are just very very very dehydrated? drink some water, better yet, drink some orange juice, try to have a good day.
I just opened my freezer, looking for ice, and four bottles of wine, and a bottle of vodka rolled out. Advice to alcos: If you hide your empties in the fridge, remember to empty it morning. I'm sure there's something non-alcoholic upstairs...

Well that failed miserbaly. I went to a hosue party after the opening.

Well that failed miserbaly. I went to a hosue party after the opening.
that's okay, one day at a time.

Yesterday doesn't matter anymore, you can start over today. If however you have already had some to drink, you can start your day over right now.

Don't worry about the past or the future, worry about right now, what can you do right now?

that's okay, one day at a time.

Yesterday doesn't matter anymore, you can start over today. If however you have already had some to drink, you can start your day over right now.

Don't worry about the past or the future, worry about right now, what can you do right now?

Woot Woot Dr. Phil! However I do have to agree with your statement to a point. There is never a now which can be realized by the mind before it has sliipped away. There is merely an upcoming future and recollection of a veeery rescent past. I could say that now I am typing this sentence but in reality the the end of this sentence would the in the future and obviously the beginning of it is in the past...any alcoholic out there digest this while being hammered :D

Rotovia...

You have a problem.

Even if your drinking doesnt seem to cause you problems, its obviously causing problems to others.
It sounds as if your "priviledged lifestyle" has nurtured this little addiction into a nice firm denial, too.

Eh, rich people are drunks too.

Im not gonna lecture you like others have, it wont do any good.
Alchoholics wont get help unless they hit rock bottom, and you my friend, as a rich kid, have quite a ways to fall.

My mother was/is an alchoholic.
She never lost her job, or belongings due to it, or wrecked a car, or anything like that, but at the end of every night, there stood a pyramid of empties.

You've become dependant, thats all there is to it.
Eventually, if you do nothing, it will ruin you.

Good luck.

She let you drink? :eek:

My mom sees me with a damn wine cooler in my hand and she freak out!

:rolleyes: :(
She let me have a few beers. I started after she left.

Man, wish I hadn't posted when I was drunk the other night. Not a good idea in this kind of thread.

Sorry if I offended anyone. Especially you Rotovia-, I shouldn't have fucked around like that.

She let me have a few beers. I started after she left.

Man, wish I hadn't posted when I was drunk the other night. Not a good idea in this kind of thread.

Sorry if I offended anyone. Especially you Rotovia-, I shouldn't have fucked around like that.
I'm a happy drunk, it's hard to offend me.