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Who will win the primaries in November, the Democrats or the Republicans?

Slaviel
21-07-2006, 02:56
Who will win the primaries in November, the Democrats or the Republicans?
Greill
21-07-2006, 02:56
They'll each win their respective primaries, obviously...
Gartref
21-07-2006, 03:09
Where will we bury the survivors?
Ravenshrike
21-07-2006, 03:40
It's funny, in polls without names, generic democrats lead against generic republicans. But in polls using the names of various candidates, the republicans are winning more often than not.
Psychotic Mongooses
21-07-2006, 03:44
Democrats?

I don't particularly care either way. I just like polls :D
Corneliu
21-07-2006, 03:47
The Republicans will maintain the House and Senate.
Neo Undelia
21-07-2006, 03:51
Democrats will pick up a few currently Republican seats in districts where the current representative failed to distance him or herself from Bush. Not enough to pick up any majorities though, I think, but they definitely won't lose anything, or at least not more than they gain.
Markreich
21-07-2006, 03:58
Given how the DEMs have been doing since the Carter years... I think Bill & Opus might have a chance this year...

http://www.chimique.usherbrooke.ca/crtp/profs/Bill.jpg; http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~lin/picts/opus.gif


So... until November, "Ooop Ack!" :D
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
21-07-2006, 04:03
They'll each win their respective primaries, obviously...

Exactly. This thread is pointless.
Slaughterhouse five
21-07-2006, 04:07
without even looking at the results of this here poll, i am going to predict that with the NS general crowd, knowing the political views of many of them seem to be the same (must be a addictive game to liberals, or has something ot do with many young players and younger people are more likely to be liberal), i am going to predict that according to this poll democrats will win.
Slaughterhouse five
21-07-2006, 04:47
Exactly. This thread is pointless.

LMAO

i guess i shouldnt vote when drunk and not paying attention

i really should of read the question more carefully
Wallonochia
21-07-2006, 04:49
Aren't the primaries in August and the elections in November?
Corneliu
21-07-2006, 04:56
Aren't the primaries in August and the elections in November?

The Primaries are all over the place. Georgia just recently had their primary and McKinny is in a runoff because she didn't win it. I'm hoping she loses her seat because she doesn't know what a truth is if it hit her upside the head with a 2x4.
Daistallia 2104
21-07-2006, 05:31
Who will win the primaries in November, the Democrats or the Republicans?

1) As already pointed out, the primaries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_election) will be won by the parties holding them. It would be unheard of for a Democrat to win an Republican primary, and vice versa.

2) The primaries will be over by the end of September (with the exception of Louisiana).

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2006/03/05/primary_calendar.html
http://www.politics1.com/calendar.htm

Aren't the primaries in August and the elections in November?

Nope. Check the schedules I posted above. They run from March through September.
Sal y Limon
21-07-2006, 05:44
I am going to predict that the Democrats will win the Democratic primaries, and the republicans will win the republican primaries.
Ragbralbur
21-07-2006, 05:49
This thread makes me laugh.
Daistallia 2104
21-07-2006, 06:00
I am going to predict that the Democrats will win the Democratic primaries, and the republicans will win the republican primaries.

And they'll both do so before November....
Anti-Social Darwinism
21-07-2006, 06:37
No matter who wins the primaries and, later, the elections, the American people will lose.
Pantylvania
22-07-2006, 05:47
It would be unheard of for a Democrat to win an Republican primary.There was a rumor that Joe Lieberman would try it. It turned out to be wrong, but it was believable.
Corneliu
22-07-2006, 05:49
There was a rumor that Joe Lieberman would try it. It turned out to be wrong, but it was believable.

Joseph Lieberman who votes 90% democrat? Only thing I pretty much agree with him is National Security and Defense.
The Black Hand of Nod
22-07-2006, 06:08
No matter who wins the primaries and, later, the elections, the American people will lose.

COMING SOON TO A THEATRE NEAR YOU.
They are the controllers of what you know
and the ones who play games with your freedom,
and now they will play their games again.
The battle is coming...
One day... One Chance...
Republican, Democrat...
Two Polar opposites... Two arch rivals...
The Battle of the year is coming...
ELECTION DAY 2006

Whoever wins... We Lose...

Quotes:
Ah not this **** again.
Who's the lesser of two evils this time?
The thing's rigged I tell you rigged!

Staring:
Fox News as... Right Wing Media guys
CNN as... More Media guys
CSPAN... As the neutral guys
George W. Bush as... As himself.
The Senate... As themselves
The House... As themselves
The Leftists as... The Pansies.
The Conservatives... The Bible Thumpers.
The Neo Cons as... The Corporate puppets.
The Radicals as.... The WTF groups.

Starts November 2, 2006, one day only.
Corneliu
22-07-2006, 06:10
COMING SOON TO A THEATRE NEAR YOU.
They are the controllers of what you know
and the ones who play games with your freedom,
and now they will play their games again.
The battle is coming...
One day... One Chance...
Republican, Democrat...
Two Polar opposites... Two arch rivals...
The Battle of the year is coming...
ELECTION DAY 2006

Whoever wins... We Lose...

Quotes:
Ah not this **** again.
Who's the lesser of two evils this time?
The thing's rigged I tell you rigged!

Staring:
Fox News as... Right Wing Media guys
CNN as... More Media guys
CSPAN... As the neutral guys
George W. Bush as... As himself.
The Senate... As themselves
The House... As themselves
The Leftists as... The Pansies.
The Conservatives... The Bible Thumpers.
The Neo Cons as... The Corporate puppets.
The Radicals as.... The WTF groups.

Starts November 2, 2006, one day only.

As I was reading this, the star wars theme popped into my head. :D
Pantylvania
22-07-2006, 06:21
Joseph Lieberman who votes 90% democrat? Only thing I pretty much agree with him is National Security and Defense.Joe Lieberman who speaks 90% Republican talking points. The rumor started after he announced he would run as an independent if he lost the Democratic primary.
H4ck5
22-07-2006, 07:02
God-willing the Republicans.

Well, John McCain anyway, all the other republicans can go fuck themselves.
Barrygoldwater
22-07-2006, 07:05
If the questioner meant who will win the Congressional elections after the primaries are over, I believe that the American people will choose to keep the Republican majority in Congress. Unless the Democrats can come up with a coherent position on the war in Iraq they are screwed.
H4ck5
22-07-2006, 07:44
No-one has a coherent position on the war in Iraq.

"Let's bring the troops home" "And let Iraq unstabalize and blame the U.S?!"
"Ok fine, let's keep the troops there" "You heartless bastard! Those soldiers have families!"
"Ok, let's worry about some other issue.." "Flip-Flopper!"

The only thing I care about are.

Abortion. (I want to see less of it, any way possible..)

That's it! Our standards for politicians has become so low they can't even offer me that! Everything else is relative but that's the one issue I will not backdown from.
Meath Street
22-07-2006, 13:09
As long as Republicans keep claiming that the Democrats have no ideas they will be viewed as such.
Les Drapeaux Brulants
22-07-2006, 13:21
The Primaries are all over the place. Georgia just recently had their primary and McKinny is in a runoff because she didn't win it. I'm hoping she loses her seat because she doesn't know what a truth is if it hit her upside the head with a 2x4.
Watch what you say about our Cindy. Her dad, Billy, might just show up and cut you. He did threaten another Georgia legislator on the floor of the Georgia House with just that.

My hope is that more Republicans will cross over in the run-off for Cindy's district. She's an embarrassment to the whole State. Incidentally, she didn't get the endorsement of any police organization this time.
Les Drapeaux Brulants
22-07-2006, 13:22
As long as Republicans keep claiming that the Democrats have no ideas they will be viewed as such.
As long as the Democrats just continue to just hate Republicans and the President, they seem to lack the capacity to come up with ideas.
Corneliu
22-07-2006, 14:50
Joe Lieberman who speaks 90% Republican talking points. The rumor started after he announced he would run as an independent if he lost the Democratic primary.

:rolleyes:

I hope he does run as an independent. He I will vote for.
Corneliu
22-07-2006, 14:53
Watch what you say about our Cindy. Her dad, Billy, might just show up and cut you. He did threaten another Georgia legislator on the floor of the Georgia House with just that.

My hope is that more Republicans will cross over in the run-off for Cindy's district. She's an embarrassment to the whole State. Incidentally, she didn't get the endorsement of any police organization this time.

HAHA! Well after beating a Capital Police Officer, that is no surprise. Also, she distorts the truth and wouldn't know what a truth is if it hit her upside the head with a 2x4. Just look at what she is saying about 9/11. It is what cost her her seat the 1st time.
Corneliu
22-07-2006, 14:54
As long as the Democrats just continue to just hate Republicans and the President, they seem to lack the capacity to come up with ideas.

Isn't that a true statement.
New Mitanni
22-07-2006, 15:59
Who will win the primaries in November, the Democrats or the Republicans?

The economy is in fact doing well, progress continues in Iraq, most people see through the lies of the dishonest liberal media, e.g., the New York Times, and most people recognize that the Donkocrats don't have anything to say other than "Bush is wrong." Furthermore, Congressional districts are so configured as to favor the incumbent in most circumstances.

Therefore, the Republicans will retain control of the House. Same for the Senate. Sorry, Donkocrats, but with Howard the Duck Dean, Michael Moore and MoveOn.org running your party, you'd better get used to permanent minority status :p
Corneliu
22-07-2006, 16:03
Therefore, the Republicans will retain control of the House. Same for the Senate. Sorry, Donkocrats, but with Howard the Duck Dean, Michael Moore and MoveOn.org running your party, you'd better get used to permanent minority status :p

Even I don't think the democrats (I still love their Donkey Mascot) will be a permanent minority party.
Lunatic Goofballs
22-07-2006, 16:05
I thought the election was in November. Wouldn't the primaries have to come before? *confused*

I thought primaries were Democrat OR Republican. When did they start facing eachother in primaries?

*head explodes*
New Mitanni
22-07-2006, 16:08
I thought the election was in November. Wouldn't the primaries have to come before? *confused*

I thought primaries were Democrat OR Republican. When did they start facing eachother in primaries?

*head explodes*

I think the intent of the poll is clear, if inartfully stated: who's going to win in November.
New Mitanni
22-07-2006, 16:13
Even I don't think the democrats (I still love their Donkey Mascot) will be a permanent minority party.

You're overlooking the precedent condition, namely, control of the Donkocrat Party by its extreme left wing, which is so far left it's left America (just look at how they're treating Joe Lieberman, their own 2000 VP candidate!). As long as this condition obtains, the majority of the country will be alienated from the Donkocrats and they will not regain power. If they ever wise up and return to America, then they might have a chance. BTW: that would be a good thing, because the Republican Party needs a good kick in the ass once in a while when it strays from its core beliefs.
Chellis
22-07-2006, 16:59
I think that the democrats will win the republican primaries, and the republicans, the democratic ones.

Now, in the actual '06 elections, I guess that the democrats will pick up seats... not a lot, but will pick up seats.

Btw, new mitt, did you really think of that name for the democrats yourself? Very witty.
Daistallia 2104
22-07-2006, 18:02
Who will win the primaries in November, the Democrats or the Republicans?

OP quoted for:

I thought the election was in November. Wouldn't the primaries have to come before? *confused*

I thought primaries were Democrat OR Republican. When did they start facing eachother in primaries?

*head explodes*

They are, they do, and they are (plus whatever other parties). The OPer has more or less been demolished for this error.


New Mitanni]I think the intent of the poll is clear, if inartfully stated: who's going to win in November.

Well the OPer hasn't shown up again, so the intent hasn't been clarified, but yeah, pretty much...
Even I don't think the democrats (I still love their Donkey Mascot) will be a permanent minority party.

And those that think they will are sadly deluded.

You're overlooking the precedent condition, namely, control of the Donkocrat Party by its extreme left wing, which is so far left it's left America (just look at how they're treating Joe Lieberman, their own 2000 VP candidate!). As long as this condition obtains, the majority of the country will be alienated from the Donkocrats and they will not regain power. If they ever wise up and return to America, then they might have a chance.

Just remember the vast majority of the Dems are pretty much overlaping with the Reps, and that both are rightwing when viewed overall.

BTW: that would be a good thing, because the Republican Party needs a good kick in the ass once in a while when it strays from its core beliefs.

Like over the last 20 years, especially the Christofascists hijacking of the party.
Celtlund
22-07-2006, 18:09
Who will win the primaries in November, the Democrats or the Republicans?

Neither. The primaries are being held now or very soon. In the primaries, members of the SAME party run for the office to see who will compete against the opposite party in the General Election. I think you are referring to the General Election, which is held in November in which Democrats, Republicans and other parties compete against each other.
Celtlund
22-07-2006, 18:14
God-willing the Republicans.

Well, John McCain anyway, all the other republicans can go fuck themselves.

McCain is a Democrat in Republican clothing.
Celtlund
22-07-2006, 18:15
Watch what you say about our Cindy. Her dad, Billy, might just show up and cut you. He did threaten another Georgia legislator on the floor of the Georgia House with just that.

My hope is that more Republicans will cross over in the run-off for Cindy's district. She's an embarrassment to the whole State. Incidentally, she didn't get the endorsement of any police organization this time.

I hope she wins. She keeps the press busy. :D
Daistallia 2104
22-07-2006, 18:25
Neither. The primaries are being held now or very soon. In the primaries, members of the SAME party run for the office to see who will compete against the opposite party in the General Election. I think you are referring to the General Election, which is held in November in which Democrats, Republicans and other parties compete against each other.

I do believe this has been explained enough, hasn't it. To the point where we've run the little guy off.... it appears.

McCain is a Democrat in Republican clothing.

Nah - he's more of a real Rep than the current excuse for one sitting in the oval office.
Falhaar2
22-07-2006, 18:30
Wahahahaha! The DEMOCRATS are being run by the extreme Left?! When did this happen? Please. They're practically interchangable with the Republicans, only they employ slightly less Jesus-talk and slightly more whining.
Ultraextreme Sanity
22-07-2006, 18:32
Who do you think will win the primaries in November?


The republicans will win in the Republican primary and the democrats will win in their primary...or something is fucked up .
Daistallia 2104
22-07-2006, 18:42
The republicans will win in the Republican primary and the democrats will win in their primary...or something is fucked up .

And that makes you the luck 13th poster to point this out. :rolleyes:
Ultraextreme Sanity
22-07-2006, 18:48
And that makes you the luck 13th poster to point this out. :rolleyes:


I dont want to be number thirteen , fix it .
JuNii
22-07-2006, 18:49
Given how the DEMs have been doing since the Carter years... I think Bill & Opus might have a chance this year...

http://www.chimique.usherbrooke.ca/crtp/profs/Bill.jpg; http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~lin/picts/opus.gif


So... until November, "Ooop Ack!" :D
now there's a team I can get behind!
Daistallia 2104
22-07-2006, 19:04
I dont want to be number thirteen , fix it .

You're the one who was the 13th to post the correction. Deal with it. :rolleyes:
Super-power
22-07-2006, 19:07
The RepubliCrats
CanuckHeaven
22-07-2006, 20:39
Where will we bury the survivors?
Are they still burying survivors in the US?
Meath Street
22-07-2006, 20:41
You're overlooking the precedent condition, namely, control of the Donkocrat Party by its extreme left wing, which is so far left it's left America
What's so left wing about them? Their #1 presidential suggestion for 2008 is a socially conservative woman who voted for the Iraq war.
Desperate Measures
22-07-2006, 20:44
The Democrats will win all primaries and will refer to themselves forever after as The Badass Democratic Party.
Colodia
22-07-2006, 20:46
This thread is so confusing on so many levels it has become the only thread I've seen on NS where people can all agree on one thing - that this thread is confusing.
CanuckHeaven
22-07-2006, 20:58
One can only hope:

AP Poll: Republicans in danger of losing Congress (http://edition.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/07/14/republicans.appoll.ap/)
Eutrusca
22-07-2006, 21:10
Who will win the primaries in November, the Democrats or the Republicans?
Your question makes no sense. The primaries are intra-party, the general election is inter-party.
Corneliu
22-07-2006, 21:21
And those that think they will are sadly deluded.

Agreed.

Like over the last 20 years, especially the Christofascists hijacking of the party.

I hope this was sarcasm in response to mitt.
Corneliu
22-07-2006, 21:24
Your question makes no sense. The primaries are intra-party, the general election is inter-party.

Number 14 :D
Eutrusca
22-07-2006, 23:05
Number 14 :D
Ahhh, STFU! :p

;)
Ultraextreme Sanity
22-07-2006, 23:37
Your question makes no sense. The primaries are intra-party, the general election is inter-party.


trade places with me I dont want to be number thirteen... as one of the post Nazi's pointed it out for me .
Maineiacs
23-07-2006, 01:16
No one will win the primaries in November. The general election is in November, the primaries have been going on for months.
Ultraextreme Sanity
23-07-2006, 01:23
No one will win the primaries in November. The general election is in November, the primaries have been going on for months.


someone trade me for thirteen ?
Corneliu
23-07-2006, 01:26
No one will win the primaries in November. The general election is in November, the primaries have been going on for months.

Number 15.

Place your bets people...who will be the 21st person to say what 15 people have already said?

Place your bets folks.
Wanderjar
23-07-2006, 01:27
I'm usually a Republican, but they shot themselves in the foot. Bush was an imbicile, and an obvious mouthpiece for Dick Cheney. The Democrats, unless they truly fuck up and run someone like John Kerry again.


The only way I likely wouldn't vote Democrat though is if they ran Hillary Clinton. I hate her. I'd move to England if she was elected....I can always join the Royal Marines instead of the US ones.....lol ;)
Wanderjar
23-07-2006, 01:28
Number 15.

Place your bets people...who will be the 21st person to say what 15 people have already said?

Place your bets folks.


Since I knew what he was asking I didnt point it out, but regardless, I want the 21st position. Just give it to me so I can spare my time in rewriting it. ;)
Super-power
23-07-2006, 01:30
-ubersnip-[/CENTER]
You win the internets. :D
Corneliu
23-07-2006, 01:32
Since I knew what he was asking I didnt point it out, but regardless, I want the 21st position. Just give it to me so I can spare my time in rewriting it. ;)

Sorry but no I will not give it to you.

Come on folks, place your bets :)
Wanderjar
23-07-2006, 01:36
Sorry but no I will not give it to you.

Come on folks, place your bets :)


aww....*sobs* lol
Sel Appa
23-07-2006, 02:05
Well both should have won their primaries, but the November election...Democrats...or maybe Socialists will finally take the Congress. :D
Wanderjar
23-07-2006, 02:06
Well both should have won their primaries, but the November election...Democrats...or maybe Socialists will finally take the Congress. :D


Again, if they do, I'm moving to England, and joining the Royal Marines, or maybe go Army and join the SAS....
Maineiacs
23-07-2006, 03:24
I'm usually a Republican, but they shot themselves in the foot. Bush was an imbicile, and an obvious mouthpiece for Dick Cheney. The Democrats, unless they truly fuck up and run someone like John Kerry again.


The only way I likely wouldn't vote Democrat though is if they ran Hillary Clinton. I hate her. I'd move to England if she was elected....I can always join the Royal Marines instead of the US ones.....lol ;)



This looks like a job for Captain Obvious! We don't pick a president this November, just the House and 1/3 of the Senate. *flies away*
Vetalia
23-07-2006, 03:35
(I'm assuming by "primaries" the OP means the election in November.)

In my opinion, I don't think the change will be significant mainly because the Democrats are still trying to attack the Republicans rather than advance their own ideas. They need to realize that gas prices, Katrina, and Iraq are not going to do anywhere near the kind of damage to the Republicans that they are expecting; ideas speak louder than words at the Congressional level. Optimism about the future needs to be a key part of their political outlook; recall Reagan or Clinton ads from the 1984 and 1992 elections.

A good number of the Democrats' policies are quite strong and undoubtedly agreeable to the American people, especially their energy plan and budget-balancing goals; the Pelosi budget plan is almost perfectly Clintonian in its design and so will go over fairly well given the support for similar measures in the 1990's. If they promote these and other ideas while simultaneously presenting an optimistic, revitalized party ready to take on the challenges of the modern world they will do very well. Otherwise, their gains will be cosmetic at best and nonexistent at worst.
Soheran
23-07-2006, 03:44
In my opinion, I don't think the change will be significant mainly because the Democrats are still trying to attack the Republicans rather than advance their own ideas. They need to realize that gas prices, Katrina, and Iraq are not going to do anywhere near the kind of damage to the Republicans that they are expecting; ideas speak louder than words at the Congressional level. Optimism about the future needs to be a key part of their political outlook; recall Reagan or Clinton ads from the 1984 and 1992 elections.

I don't think these are mutually exclusive.

The Democrats need both to emphasize the point that the current Republican administration is hopelessly incompetent (a point they are not sufficiently driving home), and simultaneously advance those proposals of theirs with popular support.
Vetalia
23-07-2006, 03:50
I don't think these are mutually exclusive. The Democrats need both to emphasize the point that the current Republican administration is hopelessly incompetent (a point they are not sufficiently driving home), and simultaneously advance those proposals of theirs with popular support.

The main problem is that by doing so the Democrats make themselves vulnerable to Republican counterattacks. Unfortunately for them, the Republicans have a much stronger media/corporate/thinktank infrastructure that enables them to simultaneously abjure the attacks against them and attack the Democrats for any variety of true, half-true, or completely false reasons.

The GOP noise machine is simply more capable than even the most stringent of the Democrats' criticisms; the only real way that will change is if they can raise the kinds of money and develop the corporate and media connections that the Republicans have. Otherwise, they will be at a disadvantage when it comes to any kind of attacks on the Republicans.