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The Difference Between the IDF and the Arab Armies



http://www.idfisrael.com/index.htm


Can't put it more clearly than that. And it's true too.

The Difference Between the IDF and the Arab Armies

http://www.idfisrael.com/index.htm

Can't put it more clearly than that. And it's true too.
You just made me realize that one of the primary reasons I so intensely dislike the Moslem terrorists is their eagerness to send their own children into harm's way. Thank you.

Yeah, that’s such a well balanced view :rolleyes:

wow

that site shows no clear bias

I will trust it!

wow

that site shows no clear bias

I will trust it!
Biased or not, it points out a painful thruth: Moslem terrorists are eager to send their children out to blow themselves up.

Yeah, that’s such a well balanced view :rolleyes:
My thoughts exactly.

Besides, they don't hide behind fleshy women, they hide in buildings... :p

Is there anyone who isn't biased?

(and I pose that as a serious question)

If you think there is, and esp. if you think that YOU are, you are severely delusional.
Everyone has a bias, and will do what ever they can to support that bias.

Biased or not, it points out a painful thruth: Moslem terrorists are eager to send their children out to blow themselves up.
Nice generalisation... :rolleyes:

wow

that site shows no clear bias

I will trust it!And the patriotic music in the background to the President's speech makes me want to enlist...

Biased or not, it points out a painful thruth: Moslem terrorists are eager to send their children out to blow themselves up.
1) wide generalisation
2) if the Palestinians had F-16s, im sure theyd use them instead of children, as this website claims

http://www.idfisrael.com/axisvsallieds.jpg

I think this photograph best shows how the Arabs are evil baby killers. Oh wait its a drawing and not a photo, still it must be true, it's on the internet :rolleyes:

It's not exactly an impartial website.

Personally speaking, the IDF, Hezbollah, PLO, HAMAS are all welcome to have each other.

I feel sorry for the civilians and those people with common sense and tolerance on both sides.

Israel has extremists, Palestine has extremists, heck even the USA has nutjob militias and white supremecists.

Name me a nation without it's share of bigots, hate filled violent groups and other crap.

The sad thing is they are fighting each other, yet Jews, Muslims and Christians all worship the same god, just a difference on the view of which prophet is more legitimate that divides them.

I really look forward to the day religion dies out and is looked upon by people in the same way the flat earth theory is now laughed at.

Shit, I feel like life is shit at the moment, but for fucks sakes, can't everyone out in the Middle East, Jew and Arab just get their heads out of the clouds, stop name calling and argueing over a few miles of land and just live together?

Why is it the simplest solutions are always the most ignored?

1) wide generalisation
2) if the Palestinians had F-16s, im sure theyd use them instead of children, as this website claims
So the worth of a child is equivalent to the cost of an F-16. And you accuse me of generalizing? :headbang:

Why is it the simplest solutions are always the most ignored?
So how would you get everyone to realize this???

http://www.idfisrael.com/axisvsallieds.jpg

I think this photograph best shows how the Arabs are evil baby killers. Oh wait its a drawing and not a photo, still it must be true, it's on the internet :rolleyes:
OH ITS ON THE INTERNET!

*slaps self*

why didnt you tell me

and its writen in hebrew!
and its on an IDF site!
and its bashing Palestinians!

it must be true!

I have been so short sighted and close minded!
I now see the light!

Biased or not, it points out a painful thruth: Moslem terrorists are eager to send their children out to blow themselves up.

Sure Forrest, I'm sure if they all had the military and financial welfare that Israel gets from Uncle Sam they'd still keep sending their kids to blow shit up instead of all those precision guided missiles that "accidentally" take out civilians a lot better than their deliberately aimed Katyusha rockets and suicide bombers ever will.

:rolleyes:

OH ITS ON THE INTERNET!

*slaps self*

why didnt you tell me

and its writen in hebrew!
and its on an IDF site!
and its bashing Palestinians!

it must be true!

I have been so short sighted and close minded!
I now see the light!
Very funny. Now talk about the actual photographs of children with ( one hopes! ) fake dynamite strapped to them, and about all the quotes from assorted terrorist idiots eager to send their own children to their deaths.

And the patriotic music in the background to the President's speech makes me want to enlist...
Seriously.

I agreed with some of the site's message, too. Just when I had to hear Bush speaking I scrambled for the pause button. 2008 can't come soon enough.

Sure Forrest, I'm sure if they all had the military and financial welfare that Israel gets from Uncle Sam they'd still keep sending their kids to blow shit up instead of all those precision guided missiles that "accidentally" take out civilians a lot better than their deliberately aimed Katyusha rockets and suicide bombers ever will.

:rolleyes:
Let's take Gaza as an example. The Israelis pulled out of Gaza, totally, even destroying the homes of their own people who had moved there. What was the Gazaites response? Do you even know???

So the worth of a child is equivalent to the cost of an F-16. And you accuse me of generalizing? :headbang:
no

what Im saying is, that if the Palestines had F-16s, they wouldt have to use dirty tactics

And the patriotic music in the background to the President's speech makes me want to enlist...
You can't, unless you're seeking American citizenship. I seriously doubt that's something you would want. :D

You guys are pathetic, you know that.

If I'd shown something that put the Palestinians in a good light and Jews in a bad one, you'd all be fawning over "those poor palestinians" and Jew/Israel bashing. You'd be all too quick to defend the terrorists. I, personally, believe it to be treason, but nontheless, you have your right to stupidity. I know it isn't listed in the Amendments, but I'm sure someone could fit it in the Tenth or Ninth. (maybe even the Fourteenth)

So how would you get everyone to realize this???

Fuck knows, I just am sick of the whole mess.

Personally I don't think the 2 state solution is eer gonna work.

They will argue till the cows come home over which inch of land is their and stuff.

My ideal solution, one state (Levant Republic? It's a neutral name, neither Arab nor Hebrew) with Jews, Arabs (Christians and Muslims), Armenian and other groups all living as one, equal rights and voting rights etc... all in one secular multi ethnic state.

You can't, unless you're seeking American citizenship. I seriously doubt that's something you would want. :D
You don't have to become an American citizen to join the army. Wierd, I know, but true.

You guys are pathetic, you know that.
Hey! :(

You don't have to become an American citizen to join the army. Wierd, I know, but true.
True, but that's almost always the reason recent immigrants want to join, IMHO.

no

what Im saying is, that if the Palestines had F-16s, they wouldt have to use dirty tactics

Oh, because Iran is SOO much better.

Fuck knows, I just am sick of the whole mess.

Personally I don't think the 2 state solution is eer gonna work.

They will argue till the cows come home over which inch of land is their and stuff.

My ideal solution, one state (Levant Republic? It's a neutral name, neither Arab nor Hebrew) with Jews, Arabs (Christians and Muslims), Armenian and other groups all living as one, equal rights and voting rights etc... all in one secular multi ethnic state.
They wouldn't have time to vote. They'd be too busy blowing each other up. :(

Hey! :(

Not you... The other ones having a cow about the "impartiality" lacking in the link.

Generally speaking, I like you.

You guys are pathetic, you know that.

If I'd shown something that put the Palestinians in a good light and Jews in a bad one, you'd all be fawning over "those poor palestinians" and Jew/Israel bashing. You'd be all too quick to defend the terrorists. I, personally, believe it to be treason, but nontheless, you have your right to stupidity. I know it isn't listed in the Amendments, but I'm sure someone could fit it in the Tenth or Ninth. (maybe even the Fourteenth)
Huh? I agree with you that Israel is in the right morally, but everyone should be able to express their opinion. Plus, those amendments have nothing to do with treason.

Also, insults really aren't the best way to get your point across.

You guys are pathetic, you know that.

If I'd shown something that put the Palestinians in a good light and Jews in a bad one, you'd all be fawning over "those poor palestinians" and Jew/Israel bashing. You'd be all too quick to defend the terrorists. I, personally, believe it to be treason, but nontheless, you have your right to stupidity. I know it isn't listed in the Amendments, but I'm sure someone could fit it in the Tenth or Ninth. (maybe even the Fourteenth)

Except you're assuming none of are aware that both sides are assholes and that it's the assholes with the technological and military superiority who are running roughshod over the assholes who don't have them. Like I said, those guided missiles and artillery kill more people "by accident" than those suicide bombers and rockets ever do on purpose.

no

what Im saying is, that if the Palestines had F-16s, they wouldt have to use dirty tactics
Disguising yourself and sneaking into an opponent's mess tent to pour a biological agent into their soup is a "dirty tactic." Sending your own children out to blow themselves up in an effort to get some of your enemies is an insane tactic.

You can't, unless you're seeking American citizenship. I seriously doubt that's something you would want. :DI've already got it, actually. 22 years now. I'm signed up for Selective Service, too.

Not you... The other ones having a cow about the "impartiality" lacking in the link.

Generally speaking, I like you.
Heh! "Generally." :rolleyes:

I've already got it, actually. 22 years now. I'm signed up for Selective Service, too.
Wow! Really??? I thought you were still in Germany! :confused:

Heh! "Generally." :rolleyes:

Well it ain't like we haven't butted heads before- I've butted heads with about everyone in this forum at least once. (I'm pretty sure)

Wow! Really??? I thought you were still in Germany! :confused:Dual citizenship. I'm sure I've mentioned it on the forums often enough.

Dual citizenship. I'm sure I've mentioned it on the forums often enough.

That's kinda cool. I've always wanted to hold dual citizenship somewhere. Italy, Britain, New Zealand, just to name a few I'd like.

Like I said, those guided missiles and artillery kill more people "by accident" than those suicide bombers and rockets ever do on purpose.

You do realize, of course, that if a Hezbollah position is destroyed (even if manned by Hezbollah adults who are firing rockets), they will report it as "dozens of Hezbollah school children massacred by IDF artillery".

While the claim may be true that "more people" are killed by guided missiles and rockets, I doubt that the majority of them were innocent civilians.

There are too many photos of Palestinians fighters surrounding themselves with small children during street battles for me to believe otherwise.

http://www.spinspy.com/node/38822

In the photos at that link, for instance, how are you supposed to kill the gunmen in the middle of all those civilians?

According to the Fourth Geneva Convention, the deaths of any of the civilians around those men who are firing at the IDF is on the hands of the Palestinian fighters, not the IDF. Additionally, the fact that the Palestinian fighters are not making the civilians disperse so they can fight is a war crime.

The website is impartial.

It has some cartoons (which mean fuck all, anyone can make a cartoon to make a point, they don't reflect REALITY!).

It some some photos too.

Well there are peace marches done by both Israelis and Palestinians and there are extremist rallies done by both Israelis and Palestinians.

The Kach Movement, led by the former Rabbi Meir Khane was a racist group that had terrorist links too.

One of it's members, Dr. Baurach Goldstien killed 29 or so people with an assault rifle ate a temple in 1994, then there was the Rabin assination.

I'm sorry, but there is no evidence to support the black and white view that one side is good and the other wholly bad.

Both sides have peaceful people with common sense who want to live together and both sides have idoits who would rather see each other killed.

Instead of using the Israeli and Palestinian divide here, lets start using the side of peace/common sense and the side of idiocy/religious extremism/militarism-terrorism-war.

I sent an email to the site owner and called him a racist kike asshole.

I hope his testicles rebel and eat him.

That's kinda cool. I've always wanted to hold dual citizenship somewhere. Italy, Britain, New Zealand, just to name a few I'd like.Helps with visas. I don't have to call the consulate or embassy lines that charge more than local telephone sex hotlines to get an appointment for the visa.

See, if the Palestinians had F-16s, then there wouldn't be accidental civilian casualties. Thos missiles would go straight into hospitals, schools, malls, restaurants, anywhere that would kill a lot of Israelis.

And yes it's a cartoon, but the fact is, the Palestinians do use civilians as cover. The site is just demonstrating this in a visual way to make it more powerful.

See, if the Palestinians had F-16s, then there wouldn't be accidental civilian casualties. Thos missiles would go straight into hospitals, schools, malls, restaurants, anywhere that would kill a lot of Israelis.

And yes it's a cartoon, but the fact is, the Palestinians do use civilians as cover. The site is just demonstrating this in a visual way to make it more powerful.

Then why not use photos instead of cartoon?

Helps with visas. I don't have to call the consulate or embassy lines that charge more than local telephone sex hotlines to get an appointment for the visa.

The fun thing about being part of the commonwealth is that I'm a pseudo-citizen of the UK. If I reside there I can vote in the British elections without getting citizenship. I can also use British embassies.

The Difference Between the IDF and the Arab Armies



http://www.idfisrael.com/index.htm


Can't put it more clearly than that. And it's true too.
*Anglachel and Anguirel chokes and dies from propaganda overdose.

Then why not use photos instead of cartoon?

Its making a comparison. That's why all political cartoons aren't pictures.

Then why not use photos instead of cartoon?

No photographic evidence. Plus he's tapped into the Muslim Borg Hivemind so he knows everything the Palestinians would do if they were given a viable and stable economy.

Its making a comparison. That's why all political cartoons aren't pictures.

true, but on this site you would imagine he would use a photo to prove what he is saying about he palestinians is true.

The fun thing about being part of the commonwealth is that I'm a pseudo-citizen of the UK. If I reside there I can vote in the British elections without getting citizenship. I can also use British embassies.There's some nice things about being an EU citizen too :)

You guys are pathetic, you know that.

If I'd shown something that put the Palestinians in a good light and Jews in a bad one, you'd all be fawning over "those poor palestinians" and Jew/Israel bashing. You'd be all too quick to defend the terrorists. I, personally, believe it to be treason, but nontheless, you have your right to stupidity. I know it isn't listed in the Amendments, but I'm sure someone could fit it in the Tenth or Ninth. (maybe even the Fourteenth)
The site promotes hatred and bigotry and is in poor taste.

Let's review shall we.

"Gee, I'll bet that if the Palestinians/Hizbollah were given modern weaponry like, say Iranian made missiles with ranges from, of say 42-200 km that they wouldn't have to use dirty tactics. I'm sure that all of them would be aimed toward Israeli military installations and not at all toward civillian population centres."

No photographic evidence. Plus he's tapped into the Muslim Borg Hivemind so he knows everything the Palestinians would do if they were given a viable and stable economy.
I guess you missed the photos that I linked to in my previous post.

The only difference is that after israelis murder civilians they say "we were tying to target enemy militants."

If al aqsa or another group said "we thought there were israeli officers on that bus" when they blew something up, the two sides would be morally indistinguishable.

The only difference is that after israelis murder civilians they say "we were tying to target enemy militants."

If al aqsa or another group said "we thought there were israeli officers on that bus" when they blew something up, the two sides would be morally indistinguishable.
Not quite. One would still be of the Judeo-Christian persuasion, and the rest would be nothing but heathen Muslims.

The only difference is that after israelis murder civilians they say "we were tying to target enemy militants."

If al aqsa or another group said "we thought there were israeli officers on that bus" when they blew something up, the two sides would be morally indistinguishable.

See the photos in the link I posted previously (yes, photos).

Al Aqsa never says they are trying to blow up Israeli officers. They are happy if they kill any Jew, whether they are Israeli or not.

It makes them dance in the street, which is a big difference to me.

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/9762/propagandaun6.jpg

The only difference is that after israelis murder civilians they say "we were tying to target enemy militants."

If al aqsa or another group said "we thought there were israeli officers on that bus" when they blew something up, the two sides would be morally indistinguishable.

Exactly. Israel constantly relies on the Uncle Jimbo Defense for its actions ("LOOK OUT! IT'S COMING RIGHT FOR US!!" :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: ) whereas the militants and terrorists don't bother with the pretense of observing wartime conventions.

Who would you say is more open about what they do? Terrorists who show no regard for human lives, or a military who kills the same amount if not more but keep saying "Whoops, my bad"?

I guess you missed the photos that I linked to in my previous post.

Sorry, could you link directly to the photo showing a palestinian holding a child in front of themself. I must have missed it.

Ok, now here is a picture:

http://www.geocities.com/palestiniansarelies/terrorcivilians6.art

Now let's imagine for a moment that this mortar is, say a Katusha rocket. You are an Israeli general knowing that that rocket will hit Israeli citizens if fired.

What do you do?

Sorry, could you link directly to the photo showing a palestinian holding a child in front of themself. I must have missed it.
I linked to a site showing Palestinians firing while being surrounded (or in extremely close proximity) to children.

http://www.spinspy.com/node/38822

Tell me - you are a soldier, and these men are firing at you. The children and civilians are in very close proximity.

You're really going to sit there and let them shoot and kill you?

According to the Fourth Geneva Convention, any civilian casualties in such a situation are on the Palestinians, not the IDF.

Nice to know that everyone wants the Geneva Conventions to apply, but only if it screws the West.

I linked to a site showing Palestinians firing while being surrounded (or in extremely close proximity) to children.

http://www.spinspy.com/node/38822

Tell me - you are a soldier, and these men are firing at you. The children and civilians are in very close proximity.

You're really going to sit there and let them shoot and kill you?

According to the Fourth Geneva Convention, any civilian casualties in such a situation are on the Palestinians, not the IDF.

Nice to know that everyone wants the Geneva Conventions to apply, but only if it screws the West.

I see four shots. One contains children somewhere vaguely near two guys running past with weapons. The rest are shots of adults standing near armed men of their own voilition.

I linked to a site showing Palestinians firing while being surrounded (or in extremely close proximity) to children.

I can link you to a photo of urban American children running alongside a car in a neighborhood. Does this mean the driver was using them as airbags?

Don't be stupid, DK. You cannot show a picture of an Arab soldier using a child as a shield and don't try to pretend you can.

I can link you to a photo of urban American children running alongside a car in a neighborhood. Does this mean the driver was using them as airbags?

Don't be stupid, DK. You cannot show a picture of an Arab soldier using a child as a shield and don't try to pretend you can.

Tell me, the men are firing in the first picture.

How do you fire back without hitting the civilians?

Any civilian deaths in such a context are on the Palestinians, according to the Fourth Geneva Convention.

Don't be stupid, DK. You cannot show a picture of an Arab soldier using a child as a shield and don't try to pretend you can.

But you admit that they do do this, right?

How do you fire back without hitting the civilians?

How about .... YOU DON'T FIRE BACK!

I know it's a concept you cannot grasp, but it is actually possible to be punched in the face without punching back.

You can be the better person.

But you admit that they do do this, right?

No, I don't. I have never seen it and nobody has ever once been able to show it to me. It simply doesn't happen and you know it.

You just refuse to admit it because, frankly, you're a racist kike asshole like the person who made that website. Jews like you give the rest of us a bad name.

You have no reason to hate Arabs except that your mommy told you to. Grow up.

Well it ain't like we haven't butted heads before- I've butted heads with about everyone in this forum at least once. (I'm pretty sure)
And the problem with this is? At one time or another, I've pissed off almost every poster on here! :D

How about .... YOU DON'T FIRE BACK!

I know it's a concept you cannot grasp, but it is actually possible to be punched in the face without punching back.

You can be the better person.
Pffft..Christianity teaches that, not Judaism. In my religion, it says you are allowed to kill in self defense, you dont have to worry about that turn the other cheek nonsense.

And anyway, in this scenario..the second you dont fire back..your captured or killed.

Lame answer.

No, I don't. I have never seen it and nobody has ever once been able to show it to me. It simply doesn't happen and you know it.

You just refuse to admit it because, frankly, you're a racist kike asshole like the person who made that website. Jews like you give the rest of us a bad name.

You have no reason to hate Arabs except that your mommy told you to. Grow up.
...And Jews like you give.....Oh wait...your not Jewish...carry on then.

Pffft..Christianity teaches that, not Judaism. In my religion, it says you are allowed to kill in self defense, you dont have to worry about that turn the other cheek nonsense.


Who gives a rat's ass what religion says? You have no religion, dude. You post on the sabbath and you've admitted you don't understand Judaism.

All you're doing is picking and choosing what you like ... just like the Christians do.

your not Jewish

Oh this old song and dance I already proved you wrong on ....

Dual citizenship. I'm sure I've mentioned it on the forums often enough.
Sorry, I must have missed it. My bad.

Say ... wonder what the impact would be if we all held simultaneous citizenship in every country? I know, I know. Not practical. But ... !

Say ... wonder what the impact would be if we all held simultaneous citizenship in every country? I know, I know. Not practical. But ... !

That would be a lot of tax forms to fill out! :eek:

How about .... YOU DON'T FIRE BACK!

I know it's a concept you cannot grasp, but it is actually possible to be punched in the face without punching back.

You can be the better person.

Sorry, you can't do that.

There's a picture of a Hamas mortar crew firing on Israeli towns nearby. Around the mortar are about a dozen small children.

Unless you want the mortar to keep killing people continuously, you have to silence it. So you shoot a precision missile at it, which hits the mortar, but also the dozen kids.

Still say you just don't shoot back? Bullshit.

Early in the current intifada, Weiner notes, children acted as decoys, burning tires and shooting slingshots to attract TV cameras while making it harder for the world to identify the gunmen lying in ambush. Knowing that Israeli soldiers are ordered not to shoot live ammunition at children, Palestinian snipers hide among groups of youngsters, on rooftops or in alleys, often using kids as shields when aiming at exposed IDF soldiers. On some occasions, these gunmen apparently have inadvertently shot Palestinian children from behind.

USA Today correspondent Jack Kelley reported:

"Children serve as infantry in the confrontations between Israeli and Palestinian soldiers. In scenes reminiscent of Iranian children sent to the Iraqi front equipped with plastic keys to heaven, Palestinian children are sent close to Israeli positions with rocks and Molotov cocktails, while the gunmen and snipers fire from positions hundreds of yards back." (Oct. 23, 2000)

The Jordanian newspaper "Alrai" (citing an interview with the Kuwaiti newspaper "Alzaman" on 20 June 2002), quotes Abu Mazen, Deputy Chairman of the Palestinian Authority, who spoke of how Palestinian children are being exploited into carrying out terror attacks:

"At least 40 children from the city of Raphah have lost their arms as a result of the explosions of pipe bombs. They received five Israeli shekels (about one U.S. dollar) for throwing them." (see original article at
http://honestreporting.com/graphics/abumazen.gif)

The Palestinian Authority has provided children with military training. The New York Times reports that 25,000 children were trained in the summer 2000 in PA camps in the use of firearms, the making of Molotov cocktails, the methods of kidnapping Israeli leaders, and conducting ambushes. (New York Times - Aug. 3, 2000)

The use of children reflects a long-time Palestinian strategy in the fight against Israel. In June 1982, the PLO issued a military call-up order for all boys aged 12 and older whose fathers served in Fatah units. The children were promised $80 a month and were attached to regular PLO battalions, each serving in his father's company.

===== (2) MILITARY AND P.R. TACTIC =====

A Palestinian Authority tactic is to encourage children to seek heroic Shahada (martyrdom) -- and then use the numbers of dead children in their PR war against Israel. Sam Kiley describes in The London Times:

"Since birth, Palestinian children have been pumped full of religious fundamentalism which promises paradise for those who die for the cause of free Palestine... Approving or not, the Palestinian authorities have done nothing to stop children playing with their lives. Let's face it, dead kids make great telly." ("A Deadly Game" - Oct. 19, 2000)

The average Western mind has trouble comprehending a society that might intentionally seek death, in order to advance a political cause. Reporters assume that if Palestinian children are being killed, it can only be Israel's fault.

Yet as Arafat adviser Bassam Abu Sharif told Time magazine: "If he knows he will achieve a political point that will get him closer to independence and if that will cost him 10,000 killed, he wouldn't mind."

Sorry, I must have missed it. My bad.

Say ... wonder what the impact would be if we all held simultaneous citizenship in every country? I know, I know. Not practical. But ... !Well, EU citizenship goes in that direction. Each country has it's own citizenship and EU citizenship. With a few temprorary exceptions, EU citizens have the right to live and work in every EU country. I'm not sure how the voting in local elections runs, but we all get to vote from wherever we are in the EU parliamentary elections.

You obviously havent seen te pictures of little Israeli girls signing live shells.

Sorry, you can't do that.


No .... *you* can't do that .... *I* can.

This thread can be summed up in one quote from Former Israeli PM Golda Meir: "We will not have peace with the Arabs until they learn to love their children more than they hate the Jews."

You obviously havent seen te pictures of little Israeli girls signing live shells.
I've seen those too.

It's pretty stupid, if you ask me, to put kids around an artillery battery full of live ammunition that is receiving the occasional rocket from Hezbollah.


And, according to the Geneva Convention, if those girls got killed, it would not be the fault of Hezbollah.

No .... *you* can't do that .... *I* can.
Really? How long could you let someone fire on your town and home before you called the police, or fired back?

Would you really sit there until you and everyone in town was dead? Really?

Would you really sit there until you and everyone in town was dead? Really?

I'd go talk to the person doing the shooting. If it gets me killed, so be it. At least I tried.

The Difference Between the IDF and the Arab Armies

http://www.idfisrael.com/index.htm

Can't put it more clearly than that. And it's true too.
They say a 7-day forum ban speaks a thousand words.

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