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Let's finish this once and for all: an alternative to 'USian'

RLI Returned
19-07-2006, 18:25
I am English. England is part of Great Britain so I am also British. Britain is part of Europe so I am also a European.

The word 'American' is already in use to describe people from the continents of the Americas. People in Mexico are called Mexicans but as Mexico is part of America they are also American. People in Canada are called Canadian but they Canada is also a part of America so they are also American.

So, if you don't like the term 'USian' then suggest a better term and we could use; one which doesn't require us to denigrate the 640 million Americans who aren't resident in the US. Suggest a good one and we can stop using USian, if you can't then there's really no justification in complaining.

There will be a poll once a few suggestions have come in.
Ragbralbur
19-07-2006, 18:27
I swear there was a sticky somewhere about this...
RLI Returned
19-07-2006, 18:29
I swear there was a sticky somewhere about this...

It's vanished so I guess the issue is fair game.:p

Seriously though, all of the other threads were just bitching and whining for/against the term; this thread is a genuine attempt to solve the problem.
Fleckenstein
19-07-2006, 18:29
I am English. England is part of Great Britain so I am also British. Britain is part of Europe so I am also a European.

The word 'American' is already in use to describe people from the continents of the Americas. People in Mexico are called Mexicans but as Mexico is part of America they are also American. People in Canada are called Canadian but they Canada is also a part of America so they are also American.

So, if you don't like the term 'USian' then suggest a better term and we could use; one which doesn't require us to denigrate the 640 million Americans who aren't resident in the US. Suggest a good one and we can stop using USian, if you can't then there's really no justification in complaining.

There will be a poll once a few suggestions have come in.
Please give me an example of when people from South and Central Americans are referred to as strictly Americans.

Oh, and the British were he first to call us Americans, so we can only blame
you! :D

Call us people from the United States of America, since it seems no other name works.
Llewdor
19-07-2006, 18:32
I am English. England is part of Great Britain so I am also British. Britain is part of Europe so I am also a European.

The word 'American' is already in use to describe people from the continents of the Americas. People in Mexico are called Mexicans but as Mexico is part of America they are also American. People in Canada are called Canadian but they Canada is also a part of America so they are also American.

So, if you don't like the term 'USian' then suggest a better term and we could use; one which doesn't require us to denigrate the 640 million Americans who aren't resident in the US. Suggest a good one and we can stop using USian, if you can't then there's really no justification in complaining.

There will be a poll once a few suggestions have come in.

I don't see why we need to use "American" to refer to anyone outside the US. That group could just as easily be referred to as "New Worlders".

I've never described myself as an American. I'm Canadian. I'm Albertan.
Gauthier
19-07-2006, 18:33
How about...

UShole?
JuNii
19-07-2006, 18:34
I am English. England is part of Great Britain so I am also British. Britain is part of Europe so I am also a European.

The word 'American' is already in use to describe people from the continents of the Americas. People in Mexico are called Mexicans but as Mexico is part of America they are also American. People in Canada are called Canadian but they Canada is also a part of America so they are also American.

So, if you don't like the term 'USian' then suggest a better term and we could use; one which doesn't require us to denigrate the 640 million Americans who aren't resident in the US. Suggest a good one and we can stop using USian, if you can't then there's really no justification in complaining.

There will be a poll once a few suggestions have come in.
got a better Idea. don't. There was a sticky saying not to bring it up. so don't push the subject.

you see, Canada and Mexico are part of NORTH AMERICA so they are not Americans, But NORTH AMERICANS.

just like Brazil is part of SOUTH AMERICA.
RLI Returned
19-07-2006, 18:35
Please give me an example of when people from South and Central Americans are referred to as strictly Americans.

Oh, and the British were he first to call us Americans, so we can only blame
you! :D

Call us people from the United States of America, since it seems no other name works.

Heh, I guess we should take some of the blame.

The problem with 'people from the United States of America' is that it's basically USian and a lot of people seem to take offense at this. Why don't you start living underground and calling yourselves Morlocks as a homage to H G Wells? :p
Dododecapod
19-07-2006, 18:36
"American", correctly or not, refers in national terms to people from the United States of America. This has been the case for well over a century, and is not going to change because a few malcontents want some new way to annoy americans. "USian" is both unnecessary and absurd.
RLI Returned
19-07-2006, 18:38
got a better Idea. don't. There was a sticky saying not to bring it up. so don't push the subject.

you see, Canada and Mexico are part of NORTH AMERICA so they are not Americans, But NORTH AMERICANS.

just like Brazil is part of SOUTH AMERICA.

But you see because it's called North America that means that it's the Northern part of America. The same goes for South America. In other words America is a combination of both parts. Like it or not the term American can be used to refer to everyone in both the north and the south.
Refused Party Program
19-07-2006, 18:40
My vote goes to Myrth.
Gauthier
19-07-2006, 18:41
Heh, I guess we should take some of the blame.

The problem with 'people from the United States of America' is that it's basically USian and a lot of people seem to take offense at this. Why don't you start living underground and calling yourselves Morlocks as a homage to H G Wells? :p

They thrive on a Persecution Complex even when they own the whole fucking table. It's why they make such a big deal out of the term USian and why they perceive an insignificant demonstrator like Cindy Sheehan to be Bin Ladin's Media Whore Lieutenant.

They've been living underground for a long time, but they don't call themselves Morlocks. They call themselves Real Americans™.

:D
Daistallia 2104
19-07-2006, 18:41
How about...

UShole?

Blatant flamebait.
Anglachel and Anguirel
19-07-2006, 18:41
Please give me an example of when people from South and Central Americans are referred to as strictly Americans.
They are in Spanish, but in English, "American" refers exclusively to those from the United States of America.
Daistallia 2104
19-07-2006, 18:43
They thrive on a Persecution Complex even when they own the whole fucking table. It's why they make such a big deal out of the term USian and why they perceive an insignificant demonstrator like Cindy Sheehan to be Bin Ladin's Media Whore Lieutenant.

They've been living underground for a long time, but they don't call themselves Morlocks. They call themselves Real Americans™.

:D

More of the same. Are you looking for a holiday?
Vetalia
19-07-2006, 18:43
But you see because it's called North America that means that it's the Northern part of America. The same goes for South America. In other words America is a combination of both parts. Like it or not the term American can be used to refer to everyone in both the north and the south.

No, they're actually two separate continents. There is no continent called just "America" so it would be incorrect to refer to it as such.

The easiest thing to do is to refer to people from their national origin; people from Colombia are Colombians, people from Mexico are Mexicans, and people from America are Americans. There's no reason to try and create a controversey where it doesn't exist, especially when the argument for changing our name is spurious to begin with. If you don't want us called Americans, then have us change the name of our country.
Teh_pantless_hero
19-07-2006, 18:43
Blatant flamebait.
You have to admit it sounds more testicular than USian.
Gauthier
19-07-2006, 18:43
Blatant flamebait.

Flamebait? You're the only one who even bothered to reply.
Eutrusca
19-07-2006, 18:44
I am English. England is part of Great Britain so I am also British. Britain is part of Europe so I am also a European.

The word 'American' is already in use to describe people from the continents of the Americas. People in Mexico are called Mexicans but as Mexico is part of America they are also American. People in Canada are called Canadian but they Canada is also a part of America so they are also American.

So, if you don't like the term 'USian' then suggest a better term and we could use; one which doesn't require us to denigrate the 640 million Americans who aren't resident in the US. Suggest a good one and we can stop using USian, if you can't then there's really no justification in complaining.

There will be a poll once a few suggestions have come in.
Yeah. I have a suggestion: keep the term by which we have called ourselves for about 200 years now, and by which all the rest of the world ( except a few dweebs on here! ) know us ... Americans! Sheesh!
Farnhamia
19-07-2006, 18:44
"American", correctly or not, refers in national terms to people from the United States of America. This has been the case for well over a century, and is not going to change because a few malcontents want some new way to annoy americans. "USian" is both unnecessary and absurd.
Truly. And Canadians and Mexicans and Hondurans and Guatamalans and Panamians and ... well, they have national names for themselves, it isn't as if they regularly refer to themselves as "Americans." But ultimately this won't go away because it just pleases many people to think they're running down the United States by refusing to use the generally accepted term "American" for its citizens. I do find the term mildly annoying but I'm getting over it. I think the best thing to do would be to ignore the whole issue. Either that or start refering to the English as "UKians" and find other abbreviations for other countries (just play nice, now).
Gauthier
19-07-2006, 18:45
More of the same. Are you looking for a holiday?

Again, you're the only one who bothered to notice. Now if you can ignore them like everyone else does, and maybe apply the same principles to Cindy Sheehan, your blood pressure will go down significantly.
Kecibukia
19-07-2006, 18:46
Again, you're the only one who bothered to notice. Now if you can ignore them like everyone else does, and maybe apply the same principles to Cindy Sheehan, your blood pressure will go down significantly.

All the red herrings here are really stinking the place up.
PasturePastry
19-07-2006, 18:46
How about...

UShole?

It's either that or Bushians. I'm not quite sure which would be more offensive.
JuNii
19-07-2006, 18:47
But you see because it's called North America that means that it's the Northern part of America. The same goes for South America. In other words America is a combination of both parts. Like it or not the term American can be used to refer to everyone in both the north and the south.
wong, its called NORTH AMERICA because that continent is north, and SOUTH because that continent is SOUTH. together, the supercontinent is called THE AMERICAS not America.

and when it comes to the point were every nation in both NORTH and SOUTH AMERICA works together as one entity like Europe... then everyone else will have other worries than what to call the people.
Daistallia 2104
19-07-2006, 18:47
I am English. England is part of Great Britain so I am also British. Britain is part of Europe so I am also a European.

The word 'American' is already in use to describe people from the continents of the Americas. People in Mexico are called Mexicans but as Mexico is part of America they are also American. People in Canada are called Canadian but they Canada is also a part of America so they are also American.

So, if you don't like the term 'USian' then suggest a better term and we could use; one which doesn't require us to denigrate the 640 million Americans who aren't resident in the US. Suggest a good one and we can stop using USian, if you can't then there's really no justification in complaining.

There will be a poll once a few suggestions have come in.

As has been pointed out repeatedly ad nauseum every time this comes up, American has been the historically accepted term for those from the USA, just as British is for the UK.
Psychotic Mongooses
19-07-2006, 18:49
wong, its called NORTH AMERICA because that continent is north, and SOUTH because that continent is SOUTH. together, the supercontinent is called THE AMERICAS not America.


Getting away from the pedantic 'USian' thing for a moment.

Some geography books count it as one continent, but an equal amount count it as two seperate continents.

Anyone know why? Or when there will be a concrete ruling on it? :confused:
Tactical Grace
19-07-2006, 18:52
Let's not start it.