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Liberals and Conservatives...Ah....

Verve Pipe
18-07-2006, 22:52
(EDITED)

Conservatives
If you don't......you are...
Support the Country's Leader - Anti-
Advocate torture ("forceful coercion") - Pro-Terrorists
Support the Iraq War - Anti-Troops
Prefer government spying over civil liberties - Pro-Terrorism
Abhor Gay Rights - Anti-family
Detest Abortion - Lover of infantcide
Support the Death Penalty - Pro-criminals
Support lowering taxes - Communist
Love Ronald Reagan - "Liberal"

[B]Liberals
[I]If you don't...[blank]...you are...
Support every Supreme Court decison of the 20th/21st century* - Hater of democracy
Support all forms of abortion - Anti-women's rights
Hate every move George W. Bush has ever made - Fascist
Support race as a factor in job hiring/school acceptance - Racist
Use the phrase "Asian" instead of "Oriental" - Racist
Feel perfectly comfortable at gay signs of affection - Homophobic redneck
Advocate each and every government social program - Greedy/Selfish
Believe there is no higher power - Zealous religious nut
Endorse Evolution - "Fundie"

I love the political spectrum.:D


*with the exception of Bush v. Gore and Japanese internment
Empress_Suiko
18-07-2006, 22:54
Use the phrase "Asian" instead of "Oriental" - Racist


Oriental? If you called me that I would assume you are stupid.
Farnhamia
18-07-2006, 22:54
And your point would be? :confused:
Baguetten
18-07-2006, 22:54
I love the political spectrum.:D

That's not a political spectrum. That's a skewed USian two-choice travesty of such.
Dinaverg
18-07-2006, 22:55
Use the phrase "Asian" instead of "Oriental" - Racist



That one is new to me.
Verve Pipe
18-07-2006, 22:56
Use the phrase "Asian" instead of "Oriental" - Racist



That one is new to me.
It's a P.C. thing. It is fairly new.
Empress_Suiko
18-07-2006, 22:57
It's a P.C. thing. It is fairly new.



And dumbest thing I have ever heard.
Sumamba Buwhan
18-07-2006, 23:00
It's a P.C. thing. It is fairly new.

its not that new - my very conservative history teacher in H.S. (15 years ago) used to get really riled up about racism and he had told us more than once that "oriental" is not a race and to call any asian that was ignorant if not racist.

I think it makes sense as not all asians are from the orient.
Wallonochia
18-07-2006, 23:00
That one is new to me.

I've never heard anyone actually say "Oriental". In fact, the only time I've even heard anyone say the word "Orient" in conversation was a friend in Switzerland referring to the "Moyen Orient" or "Middle East".

Oriental just seems extremely archaic.
New Shabaz
18-07-2006, 23:02
Typical Euian answer. (Remember is pronounced like you stepped in dogshit EEEEUUUUUian)

That's not a political spectrum. That's a skewed USian two-choice travesty of such.
Baguetten
18-07-2006, 23:02
its not that new - my very conservative history teacher in H.S. (15 years ago) used to get really riled up about racism and he had told us more than once that "oriental" is not a race and to call any asian that was ignorant if not racist.

Neither is "Asian" a "race."
Sumamba Buwhan
18-07-2006, 23:03
Liberals
If you don't...[blank]...you are...
Support every Supreme Court decison of the 20th/21st century* - Hater of democracy (nope)
Support all forms of abortion - Anti-women's rights (nope)
Hate every move George W. Bush has ever made - Fascist (nope)
Support race as a factor in job hiring/school acceptance - Racist (nope)
Use the phrase "Asian" instead of "Oriental" - Racist (nope)
Feel perfectly comfortable at gay signs of affection - Homophobic redneck (I admit that if you are uncomfortable solely at gay signs of affection that I will probably think that you are homophobic)
Advocate each and every government social program - Greedy/Selfish (nope)
Believe there is no higher power - Zealous religious nut (I'm not religious but I am very spiritual)
Endorse Evolution - "Fundie" (nope)
Greill
18-07-2006, 23:04
I actually had an Asian friend who told my lily white, politically correct teacher that he thought that 'Oriental' was neither a racial slur nor offensive to him. She then proceeded to lecture him on how it actually was, based pretty much on the reason that, since she said it, it must be true.

This teacher also lectured me on how "No way Jose" is actually a phrase of racial hatred, and attempted to prove it by asking two guys named Jose in my class about how they would feel if someone said it to them- to which they responded that they really didn't care. She then countered this revelation by calling me a racist. Ah, logic (or the lack thereof).
Baguetten
18-07-2006, 23:04
Typical Euian answer.

The EU is not a country, but nice try, though.

And I like EUian. It's easy to pronounce and easy to type, which is the primary point.
Sumamba Buwhan
18-07-2006, 23:04
Neither is "Asian" a "race."


right - sorry I meant mongoloids
Unlucky_and_unbiddable
18-07-2006, 23:05
I strongly disagree.
I don't know exactly how conservatives think but I'm pretty sure they'll have something to say about that as well.


Liberals
If you don't...[blank]...you are...
Support every Supreme Court decison of the 20th/21st century* - Hater of democracy
I disagree with many supreme court decisons and I don't think anyone left or right agrees with everything.

"Hate every move George W. Bush has ever made - Fascist"
That is not true I'm sure everyone would agree with at least one thing he did. But the stupid stuff he does far outways this

"Support race as a factor in job hiring/school acceptance - Racist"
Fair enough, seeing as discriminating based on race is racism.

"Use the phrase "Asian" instead of "Oriental" - Racist"
All of the lefties I know use Asian, although it's rare because we don't dicuss race very often.

Feel perfectly comfortable at gay signs of affection - Homophobic redneck
Some people are uncomfortable when the see pda's. It's when you get the omfg loook @ teh gayz, its like, totally icky when they get called names.

Advocate each and every government social program - Greedy/Selfish
meh

Believe there is no higher power - Zealous religious nut
Wouldn't a zealous religious but believe there is a higher power?

Endorse Evolution - "Fundie"
No, just stupid.
Verve Pipe
18-07-2006, 23:05
I actually had an Asian friend who told my lily white, politically correct teacher that he thought that 'Oriental' was neither a racial slur nor offensive to him. She then proceeded to lecture him on how it actually was, based pretty much on the reason that, since she said it, it must be true.

This teacher also lectured me on how "No way Jose" is actually a phrase of racial hatred, and attempted to prove it by asking two guys named Jose in my class about how they would feel if someone said it to them- to which they responded that they really didn't care. She then countered this revelation by calling me a racist. Ah, logic (or the lack thereof).
Haha... That's actually what I'm talking about. People take their beliefs way too far sometimes.
Sumamba Buwhan
18-07-2006, 23:05
The EU is not a country, but nice try, though.

And I like EUian. It's easy to pronounce and easy to type, which is the primary point.


as a USian I wholeheartedly support your acceptance of EUian :fluffle:
Baguetten
18-07-2006, 23:07
right - sorry I meant mongoloids

That's not a "race," either. Uncapitalised "mongoloid" is a usually offensive term for people with Down syndrome.
Baguetten
18-07-2006, 23:08
as a USian I wholeheartedly support your acceptance of EUian :fluffle:

There is no reason not to accept it. It's a fitting and concise term, even if the EU is not a country.
Unlucky_and_unbiddable
18-07-2006, 23:09
The EU is not a country, but nice try, though.



Actually in French the United States is called Etats-Unis (there's an accent on the e but I forgot how to type it) Or it is shortened to E.U..
Verve Pipe
18-07-2006, 23:09
"Support race as a factor in job hiring/school acceptance - Racist"
Fair enough, seeing as discriminating based on race is racism.
I think you misunderstand. The sentence reads like, "If you don't support race as a factor in job hiring/school acceptance, you're a racist." Liberal opinion.
Believe there is no higher power - Zealous religious nut
Wouldn't a zealous religious but believe there is a higher power?
Yup, because the sentence reads, "If you don't believe there is no higher power (if you believe there is a higher power), you are a zealous religious nut."
Greill
18-07-2006, 23:10
Actually in French the United States is called Etats-Unis (there's an accent on the e but I forgot how to type it) Or it is shortened to E.U..

Same thing in Spanish, except it's EE.UU., Estados Unidos. Why two E's and U's? To show it's plural (Even some of the native Spanish speakers I know don't know that).
Sumamba Buwhan
18-07-2006, 23:10
That's not a "race," either. Uncapitalised "mongoloid" is a usually offensive term for people with Down syndrome.

wouldnt not capitalizing something make me poor at grammar rather than a jerk?
Baguetten
18-07-2006, 23:10
Actually in French the United States is called Etats-Unis (there's an accent on the e but I forgot how to type it) Or it is shortened to E.U..

I know, and the EU is called L'Union Européenne (UE), but this isn't a French thread, is it?
Sumamba Buwhan
18-07-2006, 23:12
There is no reason not to accept it. It's a fitting and concise term, even if the EU is not a country.

well you could be a whiner labout it like many of our USian friends, but you aren't so I give applause!
Baguetten
18-07-2006, 23:12
wouldnt not capitalizing something make me poor at grammar rather than a jerk?

If you care about that distinction, should you not improve your orthography?
Unlucky_and_unbiddable
18-07-2006, 23:12
I know, and the EU is called L'Union Européenne (UE), but this isn't a French thread, is it?

Still a country.
Fannytopia
18-07-2006, 23:13
Use the phrase "Asian" instead of "Oriental" - Racist



That one is new to me.
Haha, I was caught out on this one recently - it is very true.
I called some tit an oriental (he is oriental) and he called me a racist.
Baguetten
18-07-2006, 23:14
Still a country.

France? Yes. The EU? No. It's an intergovernmental and supranational entity/union.
Unlucky_and_unbiddable
18-07-2006, 23:16
I think you misunderstand. The sentence reads like, "If you don't support race as a factor in job hiring/school acceptance, you're a racist." Liberal opinion. Oh, okay Sorry I had trouble understanding that. Okay. And I know people who are for it being taken into consideration but no one who would consider you a racist for not agreeing with them.

Yup, because the sentence reads, "If you don't believe there is no higher power (if you believe there is a higher power), you are a zealous religious nut."

Sorry again. And I disagree with that also.
Baguetten
18-07-2006, 23:17
well you could be a whiner labout it like many of our USian friends, but you aren't so I give applause!

Why would I whine about that? That would be as silly as if I were to whine about being called "Swede" when that's not what we ourselves use. So, meh. EUian and USian are just precise, the latter more so than the former in the national sense.
Unlucky_and_unbiddable
18-07-2006, 23:18
France? Yes. The EU? No. It's an intergovernmental and supranational entity/union.

No E.U. refers to USA in French. Therefore yes, but it can refer to other thing but that's not what I was talking about.
Sumamba Buwhan
18-07-2006, 23:18
If you care about that distinction, should you not improve your orthography?
fass? erm, excuse me - Fass?
had I known that the lower case was an offensive term used against those with down symndrome I would have capitalized it, but I had never heard it used that way before. normally I could give a shit less about capitalization, as you might have guessed.
Fannytopia
18-07-2006, 23:18
PS, notice how all the whinging that is in relation to this thread is originating from just one group?.... Yep, the whining lefties are at it again!!!
'whinge, whinge, racist, homophobe, whinge' - always the same. Fuck off and get a fucking life.
Verve Pipe
18-07-2006, 23:19
PS, notice how all the whinging that is in relation to this thread is originating from just one group?.... Yep, the whining lefties are at it again!!!
'whinge, whinge, racist, homophobe, whinge' - always the same. Fuck off and get a fucking life.
Yup. I agree.
Sumamba Buwhan
18-07-2006, 23:19
Haha, I was caught out on this one recently - it is very true.
I called some tit an oriental (he is oriental) and he called me a racist.


so he was from the orient? what part?
Dempublicents1
18-07-2006, 23:19
Conservatives
If you don't......you are...
Support the Country's Leader - Anti-

Nope.

Advocate torture ("forceful coercion") - Pro-Terrorists

Nope.

Support the Iraq War - Anti-Troops

Nope.

Prefer government spying over civil liberties - Pro-Terrorism

Nope.

Support Gay Rights - Anti-family

I'm guessing you meant "if you do support gay rights..." here, since those generally referred to as conservatives wouldn't support the statement, "If you don't support gay rights, you are anti-family."

I, on the other hand, wholeheartedly accept that statement. If you do not support gay rights, you are anti-family, or at least don't really care about families.

Support Abortion - Lover of infantcide

Once again, I think you meant this one the other way around, but Nope.

Support the Death Penalty - Pro-criminal

Nope.

Support lowering taxes - Communist

Nope.
Love Ronald Reagan - "Liberal"

Nope.

[B]Liberals
[I]If you don't...[blank]...you are...
Support every Supreme Court decison of the 20th/21st century* - Hater of democracy

Nope.

Support all forms of abortion - Anti-women's rights

Nope.

Hate every move George W. Bush has ever made - Fascist

Nope.

Support race as a factor in job hiring/school acceptance - Racist

Nope.

Use the phrase "Asian" instead of "Oriental" - Racist

Nope.
Feel perfectly comfortable at gay signs of affection - Homophobic redneck

Nope.
Advocate each and every government social program - Greedy/Selfish

Nope.
Believe there is no higher power - Zealous religious nut

Nope.

Endorse Evolution - "Fundie"

Nope, although I would say that it makes it more likely.

Well, damn. What am I?
Dinaverg
18-07-2006, 23:20
PS, notice how all the whinging that is in relation to this thread is originating from just one group?.... Yep, the whining lefties are at it again!!!
'whinge, whinge, racist, homophobe, whinge' - always the same. Fuck off and get a fucking life.

There's not enough 'righties' around. Wait for Corny to show up...
Verve Pipe
18-07-2006, 23:21
I'm guessing you meant "if you do support gay rights..." here, since those generally referred to as conservatives wouldn't support the statement, "If you don't support gay rights, you are anti-family."

I, on the other hand, wholeheartedly accept that statement. If you do not support gay rights, you are anti-family, or at least don't really care about families.
Let me see 'bout fixin' some things...knew that would happen.
Fannytopia
18-07-2006, 23:21
so he was from the orient? what part?
Malaysia.
Baguetten
18-07-2006, 23:22
No E.U. refers to USA in French. Therefore yes, but it can refer to other thing but that's not what I was talking about.

And, again, this is not a French thread, so French is completely irrelevant to the use of EUian in English.
Sumamba Buwhan
18-07-2006, 23:23
Malaysia.

then he was being a tit as you said
Verve Pipe
18-07-2006, 23:23
Well, damn. What am I?
Welcome to my world.
Baguetten
18-07-2006, 23:25
fass? erm, excuse me - Fass?
had I known that the lower case was an offensive term used against those with down symndrome I would have capitalized it, but I had never heard it used that way before. normally I could give a shit less about capitalization, as you might have guessed.

"Could give a shit" actually means that you do care. Seeing your lack of capitalisation I think you were trying to say you don't care and thus should have used "couldn't give a shit."
Sumamba Buwhan
18-07-2006, 23:27
"Could give a shit" actually means that you do care. Seeing your lack of capitalisation I think you were trying to say you don't care and thus should have used "couldn't give a shit."

maybe Fass... maybe :D
I could give less shits is what I was saying. I thought that was abundantly clear. :p
Baguetten
18-07-2006, 23:30
maybe Fass... maybe :D

I could give less shits is what I was saying. I thought that was abundantly clear. :p

Was that a secret, that my nation used to be called Fass?

Saying that you care and then to not do anything about it is contradictory.
Dinaverg
18-07-2006, 23:31
Was that a secret, that my nation used to be called Fass?

Saying that you care and then to not do anything about it is contradictory.

Yes.
Taldaan
18-07-2006, 23:32
PS, notice how all the whinging that is in relation to this thread is originating from just one group?.... Yep, the whining lefties are at it again!!!
'whinge, whinge, racist, homophobe, whinge' - always the same. Fuck off and get a fucking life.

whinged the hypocritical dumbass, before being pelted with rocks.

I love these morality stories.

;)
Baguetten
18-07-2006, 23:34
Yes.

I'm always the last to know.
Sumamba Buwhan
18-07-2006, 23:35
Was that a secret, that my nation used to be called Fass?

Saying that you care and then to not do anything about it is contradictory.


I dont even think that giving less shits means anything...

yes you are right I meant that I couldnt care less about capitalization but I also said that if making the distinction makes a difference then I would certainly do so in the future.

and I just barely figured out that you were Fass because I'm slow, and I figured that it would be best to hide my revelation in case you didn't want anyone to know.
Baguetten
18-07-2006, 23:38
I dont even think that giving less shits means anything...

yes you are right I meant that I couldnt care less about capitalization but I also said that if the distinction makes a difference then I would certainly do so in the future.

and I just barely figured out that you were Fass because I'm slow, and I figured that it would be best to hide my revelation in case you didn't want anyone to know.

Ah, my work has not gone to a non-existent avail!

I think it would be a bit too late to hide that fact, what with the mods and WYTYG being so good at reminding people that I used to be Fass.
Sumamba Buwhan
18-07-2006, 23:42
Ah, my work has not gone to a non-existent avail!

I think it would be a bit too late to hide that fact, what with the mods and WYTYG being so good at reminding people that I used to be Fass.

plus, you know, the Svedonic location, abundance of smartassery, Skyp and grammatical nazification which gives it away to the rest of us who didn't see those other reminders.

but, yes, it still took me a long time to realise it