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is it better

Slaughterhouse five
18-07-2006, 05:22
is it better:

for a good man to get what he does not deserves (something bad happening to a good man)

or

for a bad man to get what he does not deserve (something good happening to a bad man)

only one option happens
Kinda Sensible people
18-07-2006, 05:25
is it better:

for a good man to get what he does not deserves (something bad happening to a good man)

or

for a bad man to get what he does not deserve (something good happening to a bad man)

If one happens, the other doesn't?

Easy it would be worth a good thing happening to a million bad men to prevent a bad thing happening to a good man.
Peisandros
18-07-2006, 05:25
Something bad happening to a good man.

A bad man can still be lucky.
Slaughterhouse five
18-07-2006, 05:31
If one happens, the other doesn't?

Easy it would be worth a good thing happening to a million bad men to prevent a bad thing happening to a good man.

yes, maybe i should say that in my post that only one happens.

i also agree with your answer
PasturePastry
18-07-2006, 05:42
I'll make it brief and to the point:

What happens to one does not make one good or bad. What actions one takes makes one good or bad.
Slaughterhouse five
18-07-2006, 05:47
I'll make it brief and to the point:

What happens to one does not make one good or bad. What actions one takes makes one good or bad.

i never said that by the action that happens makes the person good or bad. i am asking if it is better for a good action to happen to a bad person or for a bad action to happen to a good person.
Bobs Own Pipe
18-07-2006, 05:53
Good and bad are too arbitrary, too subjective.
Anti-Social Darwinism
18-07-2006, 06:27
It's better for undeserved good to happen to a bad person than for undeserved bad happen to a good person. This is just my opinion, but I'd rather see my worst enemy blessed, than my best friend cursed.
PasturePastry
18-07-2006, 06:35
i never said that by the action that happens makes the person good or bad. i am asking if it is better for a good action to happen to a bad person or for a bad action to happen to a good person.

Well, I suppose if you look at it from a behavioral standpoint, it's probably better for a bad action to happen to a good person. Good things happening to bad people will cause reinforcement of their behavior and encourage them to continue to make bad causes. Bad things happening to good people will discourage them from making any causes. I suppose another way to look at it is by asking if it's better to blow up a building or leave it alone?
Cross-Eyed Penguins
18-07-2006, 06:35
It is better for something good to happen to a bad person than something bad to happen to a good peson. Many legal systems have a standard of proof based on peoples belief of this.
Cross-Eyed Penguins
18-07-2006, 06:38
Well, I suppose if you look at it from a behavioral standpoint, it's probably better for a bad action to happen to a good person. Good things happening to bad people will cause reinforcement of their behavior and encourage them to continue to make bad causes. Bad things happening to good people will discourage them from making any causes. I suppose another way to look at it is by asking if it's better to blow up a building or leave it alone?
Bad things happening to good people could also turn them into bad people, embittered by what life has thrown at them.
Peisandros
18-07-2006, 06:48
Ahh fuck. I messed up my vote on the poll. I'm the only one to vote for 'Good man get what he does not deserve'..

It's meant to be 'bad man get what he does not deserve ' though.

Sorry!
PasturePastry
18-07-2006, 06:50
Bad things happening to good people could also turn them into bad people, embittered by what life has thrown at them.

True. Good things happening to bad people will only make them worse people.
Cross-Eyed Penguins
18-07-2006, 06:53
True. Good things happening to bad people will only make them worse people.
Unless they were embittered by the world but this good event unembitters them.

However, I agree with that statement in general. I'm just saying that it isn't the be all and end all and other circumstances matter as well.
PasturePastry
18-07-2006, 07:00
Unless they were embittered by the world but this good event unembitters them.

However, I agree with that statement in general. I'm just saying that it isn't the be all and end all and other circumstances matter as well.

It's all relative. Much of this is like discussing wether it's better to go left or right.
H4ck5
18-07-2006, 07:09
The former, no-one is innocent, some just deserve less punishment then other's.. I could deal with a few injustices if it got rid of the majority of bad individuals.

Notice how no-one else has gave that answer and our society is a peice of crap. Clearly the liberal's way isn't working..

And on that note; Einstien was proven wrong liberals, everything is not relative. Or did you sleep through the study of Steven Hawking?
Welfare Libertarians
18-07-2006, 09:12
To many people, two aspects factor into justice.

1. Good things should happen to good people.
2. Bad things should happen to bad people.

I, however, give no consideration to the second aspect. As far as I am concerned, it would be nice if good things happened to all people. The problem is that, for practical purposes, there are many situations in which society must cause bad things to happen to bad people in order that bad things will not happen to good people.