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My favorite has to be DS9. The show really picked up in the middle of the 2nd season. The introduction of the Jem'Hadar is what really made DS9 great. It set the stage for the USS Defiant being deployed to the station. (Defiant can kick any ship's ass, including the Enterprise E and Death Star.)

DS9 improved even more in season 4 when Worf was assigned to the station. It had serious situations such as the conflict between the Klingons and Federation that took place in seasons 4 and 5. The Dominion War dominated seasons 6 and 7. DS9 had the greatest villain in any Sci Fi series. That person would be Gul Dukat.

They also had many great comic relief episodes such as the one where Quark, Rom, and Nog accidentally crash a ship in 1947 Roswell. There was the episode with Bashir as James Bond on the holodeck. There was a bunch of other episodes where Quark was used as comic relief. The best has to be the "Take me out to the Holosuite" episode where Sisko and his crew get their butts kicked by Vulcans in baseball.

The only thing DS9 did that I didn't like was killing off Jadzia Dax. I really felt sorry for Worf after that.

I also liked Bashir. He was pretty damn funny. It was especially funny when Dax kept shooting him down. I guess he had to wait for Jadzia to die and then try again when the Dax Symbiant was joined with Ezri.

O'Brien ruled too. I really didn't like his wife or daughter. They were annoying.

Quark was the best. He was just so damn hilarious with his smuggling schemes and exploitation of employeets.

Sisko ruled and was a huge baseball fan

Worf was better in DS9 as he got more in touch with his Klingon side than he was while on the Enterprise. I actually don't think he ever touched Klingon blood wine in TNG. It was hilarious when he and Jadzia first well, um, you know. It loved the scene when he and Jadzia Dax walk into Bashir's clinic with multiple injuries.

Does anyone remember the episode when they went back to the "Trouble with Tribbles" episode of TOS? I loved it how they made a point of pointing out the Klingons looked different. I love it when O'Brien is told that the people around him in the bar are Klingons. "So Worf, anything you'd like to tell us." "We do not discuss it with outsiders."

Does anyone remember the episode when they went back to the "Trouble with Tribbles" episode of TOS? I loved it how they made a point of pointing out the Klingons looked different. I love it when O'Brien is told that the people around him in the bar are Klingons. "So Worf, anything you'd like to tell us." "We do not discuss it with outsiders."
I loved that episode (well, both of them on TOS and DS9)

my girls like DS9 best, I am torn between series, but in general didn't like DS9 all that much, I think the girls like it because when they were younger the cable channel started it from the begining and I let them watch all of them, so they feel connected to the characters.

I have a soft spot in my heart for Voyager since I was pregnant during the last season and named both my girls after Voyager characters, but I am really going back to TOS lately....

I think TNG just has so many good episodes though that it's hard to pick a favorite.

I didn't really like Enterprise (but who did LOL) except there were some cute guys on it, which doesn't happen often in Star Trek, mostly pretty ladies, not so much with the cute guys you know?

okay, I am so going to bed now.... too tired....

DS9's characters really did seem to connect to me. I cried when Dax was killed.:( I really felt sorry for Worf.

TNG had many good episodes, but it still isn't as good as DS9. I guess DS9's story arcs are what really set it apart from TNG.

Voyager improved once they started to fight the Borg in the Delta Quadrant. I didn't like how they made the borg in the Delta quadrant weaker than the onces in TNG. I mean Voyager destroys multiple Borg ships while one of them destroyed half of Starfleet in TNG's "Best of Both Worlds."

I didn't like DS9 because it portrayed the only real capitalists in the series as a bunch of cowardly, stupid, greedy, ugly, buffoonish, dishonest assholes.

I liked The Next Generation cuz Patrick Steward is so hot. I mean, I'm not gay or anything, but if I was, that bald shiny head of his would rock my world.

DS9's characters really did seem to connect to me. I cried when Dax was killed.:( I really felt sorry for Worf.

TNG had many good episodes, but it still isn't as good as DS9. I guess DS9's story arcs are what really set it apart from TNG.

Voyager improved once they started to fight the Borg in the Delta Quadrant. I didn't like how they made the borg in the Delta quadrant weaker than the onces in TNG. I mean Voyager destroys multiple Borg ships while one of them destroyed half of Starfleet in TNG's "Best of Both Worlds."
I agree about Voyager, I really think I like it so much because my hormone levels were out of whack about the same time things got really dramatic and I was home on the couch watching it at 2am, crying into my ice cream LOL

I think really other than a "sentimental value" that I place on it, I really shoudl have voted TOS

I grew up on the next generation, but I do like what I've seen of Voyager and DS9...

I would also totally bone Dr Bashir if given the opportunity. *drools*

TNG, the storylines were great, the characters balanced (you didn't have the great three in the first series with, you know, the others), and of all the captains, I'd hate to face down Picard. Sisco may glare at you, Kirk will do something unpredictable, but Picard seems to be the guy who will get things done no matter how long it takes.

Without TOS there would be no others. It ended too soon and was Gene's vision.

Without TOS there would be no others. It ended too soon and was Gene's vision.
I liked TOS. It had great characters. I loved watching Bones and Spock argue.

You know, I loved TNG growing up. The original series seemed campy. Nowadays, if I catch an episode of TNG, it seems so... sterile. I can't put my finger on it. And when I catch an episode from the original series, even in its campier moments, it seems to have a more solid, entertaining story.

Everything afterwards is just the same show rehashed again and again.

I always liked TNG, just because it pushed the envelope on "what if" scenarios: how much of an impact does the Hawthorne Effect have on Federation behavior (Encounter At Farpoint), what if the federation encountered a race that would beat the living shit out of them (Borg), what exactly constitutes life and how should it be respected (Data, crystalline entity, and others)?

DS9 seemed more Babylon-5-ish and Voyager was more like "Lost in Space- Star Trek Style".

...My interest in the thread wavered after reading "My favorite has to be DS9", paragraph one sentence one. I love TOS. I love it dearly.

I don't consider DS9 to be of any consequence to TOS. It is nothing at all that I value about the original series. Each episode is a slow descent into turgidity and restlessness wherein the viewer finds themselves wondering 'how much longer' until the end of yet another installment of a dreary, disappointing, dead-end franchise-in-search-of-a-storyline.

And Jim Kirk wouldn't've been a part of any Federation that allowed parasitical life-forms into their midsts, you can bet your Spican flame-gems on that.

I like TNG the most.

TOS has a little bit of everything, but it's old.
TNG is mostly philosophical, which I truly enjoy. Some episodes are so filled with philosophical thought that they make Star Trek my favourite series.
VOY is more action, which is fun. I enjoy watching it (in fact, I think I'm gonna go watch it right after this)
DS9 is too political and way too little action. It picks up, as you said, with the Dominion invasion, and the action's awesome, but it still can't beat TNG's philosophical gold.
ENT I never got into it... It just doesn't work to continue a series by going in the past. I don't know...

So, my favourite is TNG, even though my name in all games and forums is derived from DS9's Defiant... best ship ever.

Oh! I completely forgot about Enterprise. It's a whole series based on a "what if" scenario, that being "what if the Federation was run by angsty teenagers?"

And Jim Kirk wouldn't've been a part of any Federation that allowed parasitical life-forms into their midsts, you can bet your Spican flame-gems on that.
I like TOS too, but are you going to tell me that Jim Kirk wouldn't try to bone Dax?

Defiant... best ship ever.
Hell yeah. The Defiant could take on the death star. Cloak and transport anti-matter into the central core and it's over.

I got my start on TNG, and I still enjoy it...although I find some of the episodes less captivating than I did when I was younger.

Still, DS9 took hold of me from the premiere and never let go. Having watched all seven seasons for a second time earlier this year (yay Netflix! :p ), I must say it's startling how far ahead of it's time DS9 actually was in a lot of the issues it addresses, especially terrorism in the earlier seasons, as well as the "outcast" aspect of Odo and later Bashir.

By far my favorite television series of all time...just too bad it costs hundreds of dollars for all seven seasons.

Someday I'll own it on DVD, damnit...someday. :(

I like TOS too, but are you going to tell me that Jim Kirk wouldn't try to bone Dax?
He'd bone her, then persuade her to expel that hideous parasite. And by the episode, people all over her planet would've expelled their hideous parasites, Jim'd be in line for a medal, and the last we'd see of Dax would be filmed with a bit of vaseline smeared on the camera lens, looking longingly at a slightly leering Jim Kirk.

I like TNG the most.

TOS has a little bit of everything, but it's old.
TNG is mostly philosophical, which I truly enjoy. Some episodes are so filled with philosophical thought that they make Star Trek my favourite series.
VOY is more action, which is fun. I enjoy watching it (in fact, I think I'm gonna go watch it right after this)
DS9 is too political and way too little action. It picks up, as you said, with the Dominion invasion, and the action's awesome, but it still can't beat TNG's philosophical gold.
ENT I never got into it... It just doesn't work to continue a series by going in the past. I don't know...

So, my favourite is TNG, even though my name in all games and forums is derived from DS9's Defiant... best ship ever.

Hmmm, well I agree with you about TOS, its good but in reality I find it a little on the cheesy side.

TNG is good but the problem that evolves in that series is that many episodes are fairly dull. That said its my second favorite, I love the borg, and Picard rocks.

Then you and I divulge a little, I enjoy DS9 because of the politicism, and the story arcs. The Dominian War really brought it out for me, I also like the darker feel of the galaxy as opposed to the utopian vision of the future (the main problem I have with Star Trek in general). Probably my favorite series overall.

Voyager, well the problem there was that I really never got real into it. Some of the plotlines were good; and others were terrible. I liked some charecters and didn't like others, I think that many charecters should have had more development (think Gul Dukat in DS9, best developed bad guy ever!). THey also used "Treknobabble" far too often in the episodes that I saw.

Then there's ENT, well, truth is I barely watched it, I dont think they did enough with the story that could have been much better developed. But, that is the way of such things I suppose.

In all this is my ranking's 1 is best 5 worst;
1). DS9
2). TNG
3). TOS
4). VOY
5). ENT

I have to ask. Is it me or is Bashir the horniest Trek character of all time? I mean what woman on the station has he not tried to bang? (OK Kira, but that doesn't count as he and the actress who played her were married.)

I have to ask. Is it me or is Bashir the horniest Trek character of all time? I mean what woman on the station has he not tried to bang? (OK Kira, but that doesn't count as he and the actress who played her were married.)
Nope, sorry. Kirk holds the record there. The good doctor may have gone after every girl on the station, Kirk went after every girl he met in the galaxy.

To Captain James T. Kirk, as McCoy put it, "What's with you anyway?"

Why the USS Defiant kicks ass.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=w5FmSmyHaCI&search=uss%20defiant

Whoever put that montage together rules.

Considering I was born approximately three months or so before it started, and literally grew up watching it, The Next Generation is my favorite Star Trek series of all time. I still cry everytime I see the Enterprise-D being destroyed in Generations. Damn you Rick Bermen...damn you...

DS9 is a close second, however. Worf and O'Brian, both originally on The Next Generation--as well as Keiko, who is incredibly awesome--definitely help with that, but I did grow attached to the other characters as well. Bashir definitely was a favorite of mine, though I don't really play favorites since I like them all. Unlike Star Wars, these characters evolved from initial, semi-cliches to actual people. Unlike Star Wars, Star Trek has--much of the time, anyway--actual quality writing. It delves into philisophical issues and debates morality in so many ways, whereas the most from Star Wars on that you'd see is, "Do I save Obi-Wan from the wreckage or leave him like Palpatine said?"

Of course, I don't intend to turn this into a Star Trek vs. Star Wars thread, as that really is not necessary.

Anyway, TNG, as I said, is my favorite. Why else would my internet name have been, through so many permutations, Picard?

Nope, sorry. Kirk holds the record there. The good doctor may have gone after every girl on the station, Kirk went after every girl he met in the galaxy.

To Captain James T. Kirk, as McCoy put it, "What's with you anyway?"
You're right, but Bashir is in a close 2nd. After all, I think he is the top user of QUark's "Vulcan Love Slave III" holosuite program.

(think Gul Dukat in DS9, best developed bad guy ever!)

Absolutely!

As for the other things, it's not like I didn't enjoy the political issues addressed in DS9, it's just that I enjoyed them less than other aspects of Star Trek.

Here is a video that demonstrates why I love Quark so much. He is such a sleaze.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=w-9tw2mx_gE&search=ds9

"Come to Quarks, Quarks is fun! Come right now, don't walk run!"

I love when Worf walks in there ready to kill Quark.

I think Quark invented the pop up ad.

Here is a video that demonstrates why I love Quark so much. He is such a sleaze.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=w-9tw2mx_gE&search=ds9

"Come to Quarks, Quarks is fun! Come right now, don't walk run!"

I love when Worf walks in there ready to kill Quark.

I think Quark invented the pop up ad.
The little advertisement blurb looks horrifyingly out of date, graphics wise, for what they should be capable of.

Despite that, it's hilarious, that segment. Which episode is that from, anyway? I don't recognize it at all.

The little advertisement blurb looks horrifyingly out of date, graphics wise, for what they should be capable of.

Despite that, it's hilarious, that segment. Which episode is that from, anyway? I don't recognize it at all.
IT is from the beginning of "The Quickening," which is definitely a very sad episode minus that opening bit. It's the one where Bashir tries to cure the people on a planet afflicted with a disease that passes on to each generation.

IT is from the beginning of "The Quickening," which is definitely a very sad episode minus that opening bit. It's the one where Bashir tries to cure the people on a planet afflicted with a disease that passes on to each generation.
Ah. Yes, that would be one of the seasons I didn't watch on T.V. when they aired, but downloaded later. That was one I avoided, due to the description on Ex-Astrist-Scientia.

Well I voted for voyager, but upon thinking about it some more, I'd say I like DS9 more.
Just the whole host of characters, Sisco, Bashir, O’Brien, Kira, Worf, Quark and Odo, etc... (and no, I’m not going to take the time to see how to spell all these properly).;)
And the way you see much more of all the different races of the Alpha quadrant (and else ware), the scheming Ferangi, Fascist Cardassians, Klingons, Romulans, etc.
Also the stories with section 31 and all that espionage stuff.
And with the dominion war you've got all the races coming together in a big alliance to fight the Dominion.

And, well, I could go on about it (and the other Star Trek series, all of which I love) all night, but I really have to go to bed now.

Trostia wrote:
I didn't like DS9 because it portrayed the only real capitalists in the series as a bunch of cowardly, stupid, greedy, ugly, buffoonish, dishonest assholes.
Funny, that's one of the reasons I loved it.;)

Ah. Yes, that would be one of the seasons I didn't watch on T.V. when they aired, but downloaded later. That was one I avoided, due to the description on Ex-Astrist-Scientia.
Season 4 was a great season. It featured the Klingons and Federation getting to the point of war. Season 4 has many of my favorite episodes. Worf joins the crew in the season premiere.

Season 4 was a great season. It featured the Klingons and Federation getting to the point of war. Season 4 has many of my favorite episodes. Worf joins the crew in the season premiere.
Well, see, I actually didn't watch any DS9 when it aired until about ~5-6th seasons, mainly because before then I was being a little kid about Star Trek and only wanting to watch TNG. I expanded later. That's why I'm really glad that you can get just about anything on the internet, if you know where to look.

Well, see, I actually didn't watch any DS9 when it aired until about ~5-6th seasons, mainly because before then I was being a little kid about Star Trek and only wanting to watch TNG. I expanded later. That's why I'm really glad that you can get just about anything on the internet, if you know where to look.
Seasons 1 and 2 aren't great, but I recommend you download 3 and 4. I do recommend watching 1 and 2 though. I thought they were OK. They just weren't as good as the other seasons.

Absolutely!

As for the other things, it's not like I didn't enjoy the political issues addressed in DS9, it's just that I enjoyed them less than other aspects of Star Trek.

Understandable; but thats just the way I am:D .

TNG, but only for the episode I, Borg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%2C_Borg) and First Contact (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_First_Contact).

Enterprise was also pretty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_Creek_%28Enterprise_episode%29) good (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Stop_%28Enterprise_episode%29) at first, until they got into the very thinly veiled War on Terrorism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xindi) thing.

Voyager all the way. I used to watch next generation but ya can't beat Captain Janeway. She did all Picard couldn't: Destroy the borg, have Q fall in love with her.....though she never did get Chakotay in the end. :mad:

Voyager all the way. I used to watch next generation but ya can't beat Captain Janeway. She did all Picard couldn't: Destroy the borg, have Q fall in love with her.....though she never did get Chakotay in the end. :mad:
That's exactly why voyager wasn't any good - there wasn't a thing that stupid little ship stranded in the middle of the delta quadrant with 18 billion quantum torpedoes couldn't do, making it just a tad unrealistic (not to mention the new toys introduced in almost every single episode, and half of their problems being solved at the last minute by technobabble).
All in all, I think DS9 was the best: It was the only one that actually had a good, solid, continuous plot, with three-dimensional characters. It wasn't afraid to be funny every once in a while, and it knew how to be, but when it was time to be serious, the series got right down to it. It's really too bad the sci-fi channel has to air the worst of the Star Trek series (Enterprise) every night after SG1, when they would be so much better off airing this - And they don't even air DS9 at all for any reason. Just TOS, TNG, VOY and ENT. DS9 is at the very least much more worthy than VOY and ENT, and in my opinion, than TOS and TNG.

That's exactly why voyager wasn't any good - there wasn't a thing that stupid little ship stranded in the middle of the delta quadrant with 18 billion quantum torpedoes couldn't do, making it just a tad unrealistic (not to mention the new toys introduced in almost every single episode, and half of their problems being solved at the last minute by technobabble).

I indeed always wondered why they did not build a fleet. Infinite shuttles, infinite torpedoes... why not build some larger versions of the delta flyer ? Like e.g. the defiant ? They already had the design - and if some ragtag human rebels from a parallel universe without any knowledge of advanced starfleet technology could build it using the resources of an old Cardassian mining station - they definately should be able to.

All in all, I think DS9 was the best: It was the only one that actually had a good, solid, continuous plot, with three-dimensional characters.

If only B5 had not been so much better. It was still good though.

IDF, you score points here for being probably the only originator of a Trek thread who hasn't tried to write TAS out of history. My badly animated cartoon hat is doffed in your general direction here.

That's exactly why voyager wasn't any good - there wasn't a thing that stupid little ship stranded in the middle of the delta quadrant with 18 billion quantum torpedoes couldn't do, making it just a tad unrealistic (not to mention the new toys introduced in almost every single episode, and half of their problems being solved at the last minute by technobabble).
All in all, I think DS9 was the best: It was the only one that actually had a good, solid, continuous plot, with three-dimensional characters. It wasn't afraid to be funny every once in a while, and it knew how to be, but when it was time to be serious, the series got right down to it. It's really too bad the sci-fi channel has to air the worst of the Star Trek series (Enterprise) every night after SG1, when they would be so much better off airing this - And they don't even air DS9 at all for any reason. Just TOS, TNG, VOY and ENT. DS9 is at the very least much more worthy than VOY and ENT, and in my opinion, than TOS and TNG.
If you have Spike TV, you can watch DS9 from 1-3 PM Eastern time. I tivo it every day. They have 3 hours of TNG after DS9.

IDF, you score points here for being probably the only originator of a Trek thread who hasn't tried to write TAS out of history. My badly animated cartoon hat is doffed in your general direction here.
Well TAS is canon so why not? Besides, they had some good episodes with the Klingons.

Well TAS is canon so why not?

Everybody else always seems to be trying to write it out of history on this forum, for some reason.

Besides, they had some good episodes with the Klingons.

Screw the Klingons: they had the Kzinti, and that is what matters.

Don't care what ye say Voyager all the way!

( I didn't intend that to rhyme)

IDF, you score points here for being probably the only originator of a Trek thread who hasn't tried to write TAS out of history. My badly animated cartoon hat is doffed in your general direction here.

He did however leave out those wonderful parodies, like Spoof Trek. OrStoneTrek (http://www.stonetrek.com/). Or even the ST/B5 fanmovie Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning (http://www.starwreck.com/).

Though none of those is canon of course.

Don't care what ye say Voyager all the way!

( I didn't intend that to rhyme)
I agree with the person who wrote about the infinite supply of torpedoes. They also had an infinite supply of Red Shirts.

He did however leave out those wonderful parodies, like Spoof Trek. OrStoneTrek (http://www.stonetrek.com/). Or even the ST/B5 fanmovie Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning (http://www.starwreck.com/).

Though none of those is canon of course.
Has anyone seen the new version of ST: TOS that some fans have made? It isn't that bad.

Oh, I heard a rumor that a DS9 mini-series is being made. I believe they will likely follow the storylines of some of the novels. It should be interesting as DS9's finale really didn't wrap it up well enough for me. It should be interesting to see Martok lead the Klingons, Garak trying to rebuild Cardassia, and I want to see what effect Odo has on the Great Link.

I liked TOS, but I am biased, I grew up watching that. :p

of the latter stuff, I love Voyager. they had the opportunity to get away from the impearialism of the Star Trek universe and actually do some exploring. they had the chance to take the franchise back to "Where No One Has Gone Before" but they blew it... Big Time.

(Defiant can kick any ship's ass, including the Enterprise E and Death Star.)
Pfft. The Defiant was a heavy destroyer, and certainly wasn't the most powerful ship in the Star Trek Universe. In fact, the one time it fought another Federation Starship was against an outdated Excelsior class vessel, and it got its arse well and truly whipped.

Beat the Enterprise E? Pfft, I say, pfft. It couldn't beat the Enterprise B.

Why the USS Defiant kicks ass.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=w5FmSmyHaCI&search=uss%20defiant

Whoever put that montage together rules.

Surprised there's no clip of First Contact in there.

Has anyone seen the new version of ST: TOS that some fans have made? It isn't that bad.

Star Wreck is also quite impressive. The acting is somewhat amateurish, but the effort that went into the great battle between babylon 5 and starfleet technology is worthy of admiration.

Fans of the defiant class starship will also be happy to note that white stars do not stand a chance against them ;)

Rank
1-DS9
2-VGR
3-TNG & ENT
5-TOS

DS9 was all around the best. War with the Dominion ended too swiftly and easily. Section 31 could have been done better and Jadzia should've been there to the end. Otherwise, stellar show. Loved it and still do.

TNG had great characters and good shows, but was too soft compared to the others. Could've done a lot more with it had Berman had his way. Example: the 2-parter where Picard was captured by the Cardassians. Amazing shows.

VGR had a lot of lousy shows but tremendous ones as well. Ever since TNG Season 3 we had been waiting for a large scale encounter with the Borg and though First Contact was nice as a movie, flying through Borg space was awesome.

I really liked Enterprise. Would've liked them to stumble around a bit more, but I was really excited about the idea of the first ship out, and wish the show had carried on.

I can watch TOS from time to time, but don't like it as much as the others.

He'd bone her, then persuade her to expel that hideous parasite. And by the episode, people all over her planet would've expelled their hideous parasites, Jim'd be in line for a medal, and the last we'd see of Dax would be filmed with a bit of vaseline smeared on the camera lens, looking longingly at a slightly leering Jim Kirk.

You lose at geekiness. Once the symbiote (notice, symbiote, not parasite) has bonded with the host (the host being willing, hence, symbiote, not parasite) they're mutually codependent. Neither can survive without the other for long.

DS9 gets my vote. I mean, aliens, with spoons on their forhead. Come on! And let's review our characters.

Garak: He's at the top of the list, period. <--- see, it's a period! Anyways, the rest are in no particular order
Morn
Quark
Bashir
Jadzia
Odo
Kira
Rom
Sisko
Nog (first Ferengi in Starfleet)
Not to mention a whole new (I don't think TNG ever touched on it, and TOS didn't have holodecks) use for holodecks
And one of the most hatable villains ever.

My last post got me thinking about my favourite ST moments.

- The opening scene in VGR when species 8472 was introduced. We see a Borg ship giving its routine "you will be assimilated" when out of nowhere some enegrgy beams appear and destroy the cube.

- The last scene of the TNG episode when Ro Laren sided with the Maquis and betrayed Starfleet and Picard. Picard's icy stare was, for me, the final defining moment of TNG.

- The Klingon attack on DS9 at the beginning of Season 4. Incredible show, and for the series, showed they were willing to change the status quo by ripping up the treaty with the Klingons.

- The 2-parter when it's revealed that Martok and Bashir have been captured by the Dominion and replaced. The Cardassians siding with the Dominion, Worf fighting for his life, the station dealing with the new reality in the Alpha Quadrant.

- The episode where Sisko lies, cheats and (indirectly) murders to get the Romulans to fight the Dominion. One of the best ever.

- Picard as a borg. Freaky as hell and for those who saw it originally, a long, loooooong summer.

- Voyager being captured by the Kazon. The leadup to it was ripe with suspense and the unthinkable, a Starfleet vessel being captured, was reality. I especially liked the scene when the loony (forget his name) stormed out in engineering and took down 10 or so enemies.

I could go on and on but I should get back to work. Share your own best moments!

Some of the more humorous moments:

Gotta love the scene in Little Green Men in the ship before they crash. As far as I know, the only Star Trek admission of technobabble ever.

Garaks' lunches with Bashir.

Less funny, I liked the way they built up to the Dominion, although it did get a little repetitive.

"Oh no, another planet talking about evil Changelings"

"Only one person survived this mass extinction and they said the Dominion did it."

"The Dominion infected these people with a horrible virus." (What's the past tense of blight, anyways? Blought? Blaght? Blightten?)

"The Dominion invaded this planet and stole all of their left shoes! And there was a marathon the next day!"

You lose at geekiness. Once the symbiote (notice, symbiote, not parasite) has bonded with the host (the host being willing, hence, symbiote, not parasite) they're mutually codependent. Neither can survive without the other for long.

DS9 gets my vote. I mean, aliens, with spoons on their forhead. Come on! And let's review our characters.

Garak: He's at the top of the list, period. <--- see, it's a period! Anyways, the rest are in no particular order
Morn
Quark
Bashir
Jadzia
Odo
Kira
Rom
Sisko
Nog (first Ferengi in Starfleet)
Not to mention a whole new (I don't think TNG ever touched on it, and TOS didn't have holodecks) use for holodecks
And one of the most hatable villains ever.
I liked how DS9 was honest about how most people would actually use the holodeck. In TNG, it was all innocent use. In DS9, 90% of Quark's programs are (insert name of species here) Love Slave (insert number of edition). Even Bashir's 007 program involves it. BTW, the 007 episode is my favorite. I loved it.

Morn is hilarious. He is an inside joke of the producers. He is a play off of George Wendt's Norm character on "Cheers." I love how everyone talks about how he is too talkative and talks their ears off. Despite this fact, they never show him talking. Everytime he is about to talk, he gets cut off.

I liked how DS9 was honest about how most people would actually use the holodeck. In TNG, it was all innocent use. In DS9, 90% of Quark's programs are (insert name of species here) Love Slave (insert number of edition). Even Bashir's 007 program involves it. BTW, the 007 episode is my favorite. I loved it.

Morn is hilarious. He is an inside joke of the producers. He is a play off of George Wendt's Norm character on "Cheers." I love how everyone talks about how he is too talkative and talks their ears off. Despite this fact, they never show him talking. Everytime he is about to talk, he gets cut off.

"I think I may have joined the wrong intelligence service."

"I think I may have joined the wrong intelligence service."
LOL. That is why Garak is one of the greatest characters ever.

You're right, Dukat is the best villain. He is a very rare type of villain. He is a true 3 dimensional character. I actually felt sorry for him after Ziyal got killed by Damar. Then later in the season he became the most hated character ever for killing Jadzia. (It was innevitable though that she would leave. She liked Trek, but DS9 had 1 season left and she had the opportunity to star in a sitcom which would give her 5 years of work.)

LOL. That is why Garak is one of the greatest characters ever.

You're right, Dukat is the best villain. He is a very rare type of villain. He is a true 3 dimensional character. I actually felt sorry for him after Ziyal got killed by Damar. Then later in the season he became the most hated character ever for killing Jadzia. (It was innevitable though that she would leave. She liked Trek, but DS9 had 1 season left and she had the opportunity to star in a sitcom which would give her 5 years of work.)

Let's not forget the best way ever to deal with one of your actors getting pregnant. Have her carry the baby of a different character!

Let's not forget the best way ever to deal with one of your actors getting pregnant. Have her carry the baby of a different character!
I'm sure the first thought the writers had was "God damn you Bashir! You really are a horny bastard!" I'm wondering how long it took them to come up with a solution to deal with the problem. I have to give the writers credit for that one. I like how they were joking with it when Kira is yelling, "You did this to me," at Bashir.

I liked DS9, except for the fact that they killed off Jhadzia.
It's not as if they had much choice - the actress left the show, didn't want to renew her contract. Luckily for the producers, she was the one character they could kill off and keep alive (via Ezri) at the same time.

As for my response to the lists others have created:
1. DS9
2. TOS/TNG
4. VOY
5. ENT

I still can't get over Archer having Phlox come up with a cure to a genetic disorder afflicting a planet only to withold it in season 1, then a few episodes later, gets all pissed off and self righteous when a couple of his crew members are dying from some sickness and a couple of aliens who have the cure are witholding it from him. Way to be a fucking hypocrite.

Pfft. The Defiant was a heavy destroyer, and certainly wasn't the most powerful ship in the Star Trek Universe. In fact, the one time it fought another Federation Starship was against an outdated Excelsior class vessel, and it got its arse well and truly whipped.

Beat the Enterprise E? Pfft, I say, pfft. It couldn't beat the Enterprise B.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS_Lakota

The Lakota had been refitted at the behest of Admiral Leyton...it had upgraded tactical systems, including Quantum torpedoes.

Hardly a pushover.

Besides, my favorite Defiant fight has to be the one from the video posted earlier, where she takes on a Klingon Battlecruiser and a BoP or two...all while performing a rescue mission.

Good stuff! :)

I agree, she couldn't take on the Enterprise-E one on one and win...but she was still a tough little bastard. :p

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS_Lakota

The Lakota had been refitted at the behest of Admiral Leyton...it had upgraded tactical systems, including Quantum torpedoes.

Hardly a pushover.

Besides, my favorite Defiant fight has to be the one from the video posted earlier, where she takes on a Klingon Battlecruiser and a BoP or two...all while performing a rescue mission.

Good stuff! :)

I agree, she couldn't take on the Enterprise-E one on one and win...but she was still a tough little bastard. :p
Also, the Lakota fired multiple shots before the Defiant even thought about defending herself.

Voager! How can people not agree!!!!?


P.S Attempts to provide reasoning will prove futile!

Voager! How can people not agree!!!!?


P.S Attempts to provide reasoning will prove futile!
infinite supply of torpedoes, infinite supply of redshirts, and weakening the borg so they could have the Voyager take them on one on one.

infinite supply of torpedoes, infinite supply of redshirts, and weakening the borg so they could have the Voyager take them on one on one.

Glad you agree with me!

and weakening the borg so they could have the Voyager take them on one on one.
Yeah, I hated that. Before Voyager, the Borg were a huge threat that walked over the entire fleet. After Voyager, the Borg were little more than a triffling inconvenience that they met pretty much every week and easily overcame.

Glad you agree with me!
I wasn't agreeing. I was pointing out problems with Voyager. The worst being the dilution of the Borg.

Janeway, worst captain ever.

First female in the driver's seat, what's she do. SHE GETS LOST! The woman driver jokes alone were horrific. Then she got promoted?

Admiral Janeway? What the hell for? They afraid she'd lose another ship? "Here Katie, don't lose this desk now".

Janeway, worst captain ever.

First female in the driver's seat, what's she do. SHE GETS LOST! The woman driver jokes alone were horrific. Then she got promoted?

Admiral Janeway? What the hell for? They afraid she'd lose another ship? "Here Katie, don't lose this desk now".
she didn't get lost, she was hijacked! Big difference.

Blow their only way home or be noble?

Have the dumb fucks never heard of a time bomb? Seriously, the entire premise was stupidly written. It could of been a great series with plenty of drama. Instead it was horrific.

The cheese episode!

Does anyone remember the episode when they went back to the "Trouble with Tribbles" episode of TOS? I loved it how they made a point of pointing out the Klingons looked different. I love it when O'Brien is told that the people around him in the bar are Klingons. "So Worf, anything you'd like to tell us." "We do not discuss it with outsiders."
ooh that was fun :D


i never liked DS9 too much though. i have very fond memories of watching it with my dad :) but it never really excited me all that much... i don't know. i like the whole exploration thing and just being stuck on a spacestation for 4 out of every 5 episodes was just not so great. still a good show though


Voyager was my favourite, and i've collected them all (finally). i loved the way that, similar to DS9, it was practially a sci-fi soap-opera, and how so many of the characters really expanded and grew as the show went on (seeing how it started with the maiden voyage, that really helped. ensign Kim for example was fresh out the academy and you could see him grow as the show went on and the crew became more of a family. same kind of thing with the Doctor and 7of9... both 'blank slates' when they first join the crew... very good touch :))


i could go on for ages about how great voyager is... but i won't.

TNG rocks too btw :) (collected all that too :P)



i'm going to go watch the first ep of voyager now... excuse me :p

Blow their only way home or be noble?

Have the dumb fucks never heard of a time bomb? Seriously, the entire premise was stupidly written. It could of been a great series with plenty of drama. Instead it was horrific.

The cheese episode!
What was the episode with that one guy that Myrth used to post pictures of? It was that episode in black and white.

Blow their only way home or be noble?

Have the dumb fucks never heard of a time bomb? Seriously, the entire premise was stupidly written. It could of been a great series with plenty of drama. Instead it was horrific.

The cheese episode!
assuming you're talking about the first episode yes?

the problem is this, they couldn't get home. the Caretaker died. thus all his advanced technology was up for grabs. the Kazon, were there to take that technology and run rampant with it.

Janeway knew that Kess's people had no defense, probably some rocks or sticks but that was it, against people who already posessed transporter technology, it won't be a fight but a massacre.

so your solution? plant a time bomb and use the technology to leave?

if its so simple, then what's stopping the Kazon from locking onto the bomb and transporting it out before it explodes?

how would they stop the Kazon from transporting into the station?

Then there is the fact that the Kazon would've been constantly attacking, Voyager is not a battleship, but a short range patrol ship. it would've been destroyed before they figured out how to use the Caretaker's technology... leaving the tech in their hands and Janeway and crew dead.

You're telling me a massively advanced space station doesn't have shields? What about the 500 materials that will effectively block a transporter signal? Why not just dock one of the "two" shuttles to the station with the bomb on board, and raise the shuttle's shields.

Further, it wasn't their fight. Had they never arrived the Kazon would of still taken the Array, they're in prime directive territory, you know right before the entire series decided to wipe their collective asses with it.

What did blowing up the array accomplish?

1) Stranded Voyager.
2) Seriously pissed off the Kazon.
3) Helped the Ocampa not at all.

If they were so hell bent on doing the "right" thing while ignoring their Prime Directive they could of sent the Kazon a replicator, solved all the problems and teleported home.

Actually, you know what I think would have made an awesome series (although could obviously never be done in the ST universe): Take the Enterprise episode Twilight, cut off the ending, and make it the pilot to the new series.

You're telling me a massively advanced space station doesn't have shields? What about the 500 materials that will effectively block a transporter signal? Why not just dock one of the "two" shuttles to the station with the bomb on board, and raise the shuttle's shields.


assumedly the shields and defensive systems went down after the caretaker died. he seemed somehow integrated into the array anyway (i just rewatched the ep)


Further, it wasn't their fight. Had they never arrived the Kazon would of still taken the Array, they're in prime directive territory, you know right before the entire series decided to wipe their collective asses with it.

What did blowing up the array accomplish?

1) Stranded Voyager.
2) Seriously pissed off the Kazon.
3) Helped the Ocampa not at all.

If they were so hell bent on doing the "right" thing while ignoring their Prime Directive they could of sent the Kazon a replicator, solved all the problems and teleported home.
the prime directive, as i understand it, forbids interfering in a civilisation's cultural development or internal affairs. in tores and kim being stranded with the Ocampa, voyager had become involved in the external affairs of that species, which then took a turn with the involvement of the Kazon.

i don't think the prime directive applies, in short.

however it was a bit of a weak moral dillema

You're telling me a massively advanced space station doesn't have shields? have them? probably, dunno really. Would they know how to turn them on? probably not.
What about the 500 materials that will effectively block a transporter signal?Don't forget, you're talking about Federation/Empire (Klingon/Romulan) transporter signals. would a new species in a new quadrant use the same signals? you're making alot of assumptions...
Why not just dock one of the "two" shuttles to the station with the bomb on board, and raise the shuttle's shields.considering they only had one shuttle (the delta flyer was built while they were in the Gamma quadrant) you would sacrifice that on an off chance that an explosion of that minor magnitude would destry the station? they fired several torpedoes at it and targetted what they determined was the station power supply.

Further, it wasn't their fight. Had they never arrived the Kazon would of still taken the Array, they're in prime directive territory, you know right before the entire series decided to wipe their collective asses with it.yep, it wasn't their fight. but they were pulled into it. they could've ignored the plight of Kess's people, but then again, the whole philosophy of the federation at that time was one of unasked assistance.

What did blowing up the array accomplish?
1) Stranded Voyager.
2) Seriously pissed off the Kazon.
3) Helped the Ocampa not at all.it prevented high tech from falling into the hands of people who would have no qualms with using it for selfish means. (doesn't mean that the Federation would've been better.) It also bought the Ocompa time to stand on their own.

If they were so hell bent on doing the "right" thing while ignoring their Prime Directive they could of sent the Kazon a replicator, solved all the problems and teleported home.Remember, this is the Federation... the we-are-better-than-everyone-else-so-there federation. they cannot ignore the Prime Directive unless it affects them personally. :p

Actually, you know what I think would have made an awesome series (although could obviously never be done in the ST universe): Take the Enterprise episode Twilight, cut off the ending, and make it the pilot to the new series.my idea was to take Gene's other series, Andromeda, and make that a Star Trek series. The fracturing of the Federation and seeing each race revert back to individual identities. Then you can see the reforming of the Federation to suit today's standards.

I actually enjoy all of them. Surprisingly, my least favorite was DS9. I just couldn't get into it. It is the only one (besides Enterprise) where I have not seen all the episodes. The first couple seasons just didn't do anything for me. Stopped watching it. I did start watching again towards the end, then they killed off J. Dax. Pissed me off. I think she was one of my favorite characters. The only reason I didn't finish watching the Enterprise episodes were because they interfered with work. I plan on watching the last season... eventually.

I will watch TNG when I get the chance. We get a channel here called G-4 (pretty new... one of the digital tier channels in my area). They play TNG all the time. Should be on now actually. I'm just too lazy to go down and turn it on. :)

My fav to least fav:
1. TNG
2. Voyager
3. Enterprise
4. TOS
5. DS9

Voyager was really almost my top choice, but Patric Stewart was the one who put TNG over the top for me. :)

I did start watching again towards the end, then they killed off J. Dax. Pissed me off. I think she was one of my favorite characters.
Dude, they had no choice, the actress quit. If you want to be pissed off, be pissed off at the actress, not the writers - they did everything within their power to keep the character at least somewhat alive.


My fav to least fav:
1. TNG
2. Voyager
3. Enterprise
4. TOS
5. DS9

Voyager was really almost my top choice, but Patric Stewart was the one who put TNG over the top for me. :)
:eek: How could you possibly rate both VOY and ENT above TOS? Neither of them even deserve to be canon, much less placed above the original series.

How could you possibly rate both VOY and ENT above TOS? Neither of them even deserve to be canon, much less placed above the original series.

Only because I have seen TOS sooooo many times that seeing the new shows was welcome relief. LOL!! I was born in the early 70s and my parents LOVED TOS. TNG was more *my* generation. :)

And then there was Picard. There really is something about that bald head of his.

Oh... I wasn't pissed off that she wasn't on the show. It was more of a: "let me see if I can get into this show again... besides. I like this actress. She's gone. Oh well. Pfft. Didn't like the show much anyway." I guess "pissed off" was too harsh of a term. Actually, I had no idea she quit. Like I said, I didn't get into that series much.

TNG. Just for Picard.

TNG. Just for Picard.
Kirk could kick his ass.

Kirk could kick his ass.

Whatever Trevor. Picard would just be uber-bald and totally cool at him and Kirk would explode.

And correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't there an episode featuring both Kirk and Picard, and they got in a fight with some dude, during which Kirk died? Tell ya something? Like maybe Kirk's a big pansy girly and Picard's way too awesome to do something as uncool as die. Come on man! he got stabbed through the heart and still went on to kick arse!

Whatever Trevor. Picard would just be uber-bald and totally cool at him and Kirk would explode.

And correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't there an episode featuring both Kirk and Picard, and they got in a fight with some dude, during which Kirk died? Tell ya something? Like maybe Kirk's a big pansy girly and Picard's way too awesome to do something as uncool as die. Come on man! he got stabbed through the heart and still went on to kick arse!
Kirk died because Rick Berman is a bastard who shouldn't be allowed to touch Star Trek. We can thank that idiot for Nemesis, Insurrection, and killing Data.

Kirk got into more fistfights than anyone. He kicked ass.

Kirk died because Rick Berman is a bastard who shouldn't be allowed to touch Star Trek. We can thank that idiot for Nemesis, Insurrection, and killing Data.

Kirk got into more fistfights than anyone. He kicked ass.

:eek: You mean it's all just scripted?! Nooooo! :p

And Picard didn't sink to that level. He chose the more civilised methods of space-born ass-kickery and stuff... it makes sense.

Seriously though, when someone writes a Kirk rap, and only then, will Kirk even come close to Picard on a scale of cool.

Kirk could kick his ass.
I dunno, in a fight between the two, I think I'd choose Picard. Kirk was brilliant, but erraditc at times and took chances that SOMETIMES paid off, but when it didn't (See USS Reliant).

Picard is much more able in battle and has a very, VERY good stratigic and tactical mind (See Wolf 359, the Picard Manuver, hell, ANYTHING).

PLease, with Picard it was always, "Number 1, you and Worf go down there while I sip my Earl Grey tea."

Kirk would be like "Let's go down there and kick some alien ass!!! Oh, Ensign Ricky, come join Spock, McCOy and I down there. Keep that red shirt on."

I dunno, in a fight between the two, I think I'd choose Picard. Kirk was brilliant, but erraditc at times and took chances that SOMETIMES paid off, but when it didn't (See USS Reliant).

Picard is much more able in battle and has a very, VERY good stratigic and tactical mind (See Wolf 359, the Picard Manuver, hell, ANYTHING).

Besides which: Patrick Stewart/William Shatner. *Weighs up*

Foregone conclusion methinks :) Besides, Picard would just use his telepathic powers to screw Kirk over bad. Everyone knows that actors have all the cool powers from all their films/tv series right?

I dunno, in a fight between the two, I think I'd choose Picard. Kirk was brilliant, but erraditc at times and took chances that SOMETIMES paid off, but when it didn't (See USS Reliant).

Picard is much more able in battle and has a very, VERY good stratigic and tactical mind (See Wolf 359, the Picard Manuver, hell, ANYTHING).Kirk still has good tactics. In Nemesis, Riker orders pattern "Kirk Epsilon" implying that 100 years after Kirk they were still using his maneuvers.

I will agree that Kirk was eratic, but that's why he ruled. Klingons respected him as the greatest human warrior ever.

PLease, with Picard it was always, "Number 1, you and Worf go down there while I sip my Earl Grey tea."

Kirk would be like "Let's go down there and kick some alien ass!!! Oh, Ensign Ricky, come join Spock, McCOy and I down there. Keep that red shirt on."

"Number one, tell me something. If I were to say to you that Commander Worf's head looks like a fanny, would you join me in a laugh?"

"Uuuh, yes captain."

"Alright, here it comes. Commander Worf's head looks like a fanny!"

*uproarious laughter*

"You can both suck my ridges!"

"Oh get a sense of humour, Rocky Dennis."

:D You don't see Kirk getting Family Guy refs of that calibre do you :p

Kirk still has good tactics. In Nemesis, Riker orders pattern "Kirk Epsilon" implying that 100 years after Kirk they were still using his maneuvers.

I will agree that Kirk was eratic, but that's why he ruled. Klingons respected him as the greatest human warrior ever.

Yeh but since when the hell did Riker know anything about anything? :D Oh and I hope you'll note how it was Picard who won that particular film, with his own badassery, not nicking someone else's.

"Number one, tell me something. If I were to say to you that Commander Worf's head looks like a fanny, would you join me in a laugh?"

"Uuuh, yes captain."

"Alright, here it comes. Commander Worf's head looks like a fanny!"

*uproarious laughter*

"You can both suck my ridges!"

"Oh get a sense of humour, Rocky Dennis."

:D You don't see Kirk getting Family Guy refs of that calibre do you :p
They had better. "McCoy, Spock, and, uh Ensign Rickey will join me."

(looks at shirt color) "Ah crap!"

Kirk still has good tactics. In Nemesis, Riker orders pattern "Kirk Epsilon" implying that 100 years after Kirk they were still using his maneuvers.

I will agree that Kirk was eratic, but that's why he ruled. Klingons respected him as the greatest human warrior ever.
And I would agree that Kirk is an EXCELLENT tactical commander, but when you look at stratagy...

And I would agree that Kirk is an EXCELLENT tactical commander, but when you look at stratagy...
PIcard isn't a strategic commander either. Both are tactical commanders. They are concerned with their starships. Kirk would be the better Strategic COmmander since he was an Admiral for 14 years.

PIcard isn't a strategic commander either. Both are tactical commanders. They are concerned with their starships. Kirk would be the better Strategic COmmander since he was an Admiral for 14 years.
Picard commanded a number of fleets AND directed a few campains. When offered a job as an admiral, it was done with noting his brilliance at that scale as well.

Kirk... well, Kirk WAS an admiral and chief of Star Fleet operations, but it was noted a number of times that he wasn't too happy with it, he was moved from operations to training, and finally when he got demoted it was noted that his talent (Backing Spock's assesment up) was starship command, not fleet.

No, Kirk was a great ship commander, but not a stratigist.

They had better. "McCoy, Spock, and, uh Ensign Rickey will join me."

(looks at shirt color) "Ah crap!"
Yeah, but Patrick Stewart, Johnathan Frakes and Michael Dorn all actually voiced their own characters in theirs. Although I do admit it would have been hard for DeForest Kelley to voice his part, being dead and all, I'm sure Shatner and Nimoy could have at least done theirs. I mean hell, Nimoy did all the quotes in Civ IV, you'd think he would voice his own character on Family Guy.

I still think that Picard is hot. That I stand by.

Kirk can be sexy, but IMO, he is overly horny.

Family guy killed Kirk. At least Futurama let Lela have *fun* with him.

Yeah, but Patrick Stewart, Johnathan Frakes and Michael Dorn all actually voiced their own characters in theirs. Although I do admit it would have been hard for DeForest Kelley to voice his part, being dead and all, I'm sure Shatner and Nimoy could have at least done theirs. I mean hell, Nimoy did all the quotes in Civ IV, you'd think he would voice his own character on Family Guy.
That's because Shatner is a jerk. I've seen Nimoy, Stewart, and Shatner and Shatner really is an a-hole.

Yeah, but Patrick Stewart, Johnathan Frakes and Michael Dorn all actually voiced their own characters in theirs. Although I do admit it would have been hard for DeForest Kelley to voice his part, being dead and all, I'm sure Shatner and Nimoy could have at least done theirs. I mean hell, Nimoy did all the quotes in Civ IV, you'd think he would voice his own character on Family Guy.


It's worth noting that for the Futurama episode "Where no fan has gone before" all of the surviving members of the orginal series did their own voices with the exception of Scotty. Which is why he wasn't in the episode.

Geek +10

so your solution? plant a time bomb and use the technology to leave?

if its so simple, then what's stopping the Kazon from locking onto the bomb and transporting it out before it explodes?

how would they stop the Kazon from transporting into the station?



Sorry to be geeky but I am 95% sure the Kazon did not have transporter technology, didnt Seska take that with her when she defected? Could be wrong. Anyhoo my fave series was Voyager but only for characters such as Kim, Paris, Vorik, Tuvok, The Doctor and Chakotay. Couldn't stand Janeway, whenever the ship was fired upon or shook even slightly she sounded like she was having an orgasm, not to mention the fact that Kate Mulgrew can't act.

Another thing that pisses me off about Star Trek is the Vulcans, most actors playing them have mistook 'monotone' for 'no emotion', look at Tim Russ and Alexander Enberg for lessons on how Vulcans should be played. Not to mention the dialogue is 9 times out of ten absolutely pathetic....

PLease, with Picard it was always, "Number 1, you and Worf go down there while I sip my Earl Grey tea."

Kirk would be like "Let's go down there and kick some alien ass!!! Oh, Ensign Ricky, come join Spock, McCOy and I down there. Keep that red shirt on."


Which is why Voyager is better. Kirk probably had crabs from all his encounters. Picard while semi cool was a nancy boy. Voyager all the way. Granted Chakotay crashed every shuttle he flew but still no one can beat the Doctor, Plus Janeway actually had hair and wasn't that much of a slut!....with real people.;)

Sorry to be geeky but I am 95% sure the Kazon did not have transporter technology, didnt Seska take that with her when she defected? Could be wrong. Anyhoo my fave series was Voyager but only for characters such as Kim, Paris, Vorik, Tuvok, The Doctor and Chakotay. Couldn't stand Janeway, whenever the ship was fired upon or shook even slightly she sounded like she was having an orgasm, not to mention the fact that Kate Mulgrew can't act.

Another thing that pisses me off about Star Trek is the Vulcans, most actors playing them have mistook 'monotone' for 'no emotion', look at Tim Russ and Alexander Enberg for lessons on how Vulcans should be played. Not to mention the dialogue is 9 times out of ten absolutely pathetic....


Your right they didn't have transporter technology. Chakotay was slightly annoying. and Kate Mulgrew acted fine...except in one episode when 7/9 tried to get out of the brig and she fell into her, then she looked like she was having an orgasim.

She was ok, she just didnt really make you beleive in her, like beleive she was actually a starship captain and not an actor

Gotta go with Voyager. That's the one I really enjoyed. I didn't know there was an animated series though. Crazy...

DS9 had the most ass kicking, NG is a close second but it doesnt have enough killing, it dealves to much into the characters and peaceful stuff that i never cared about as much as, for example the dominion war

Yeah, but Patrick Stewart, Johnathan Frakes and Michael Dorn all actually voiced their own characters in theirs. Although I do admit it would have been hard for DeForest Kelley to voice his part, being dead and all, I'm sure Shatner and Nimoy could have at least done theirs. I mean hell, Nimoy did all the quotes in Civ IV, you'd think he would voice his own character on Family Guy.
It was the 2nd episode of Family Guy so it would be harder to get guest stars. Family Guy's best Star Trek joke still has to be the one in the movie with Quark and Odo.

Kirk probably had crabs from all his encounters.
ROFLMAO

Sorry to be geeky but I am 95% sure the Kazon did not have transporter technology, didnt Seska take that with her when she defected? Could be wrong. Anyhoo my fave series was Voyager but only for characters such as Kim, Paris, Vorik, Tuvok, The Doctor and Chakotay. Couldn't stand Janeway, whenever the ship was fired upon or shook even slightly she sounded like she was having an orgasm, not to mention the fact that Kate Mulgrew can't act.

Another thing that pisses me off about Star Trek is the Vulcans, most actors playing them have mistook 'monotone' for 'no emotion', look at Tim Russ and Alexander Enberg for lessons on how Vulcans should be played. Not to mention the dialogue is 9 times out of ten absolutely pathetic....Thought they did. won't argue that tho.

oh, and my beef with the Vulcans is that they have copper baised blood, hence Spock, Tho a half breed, had green blood. so how can they have a Black vulcan? wouldn't they be darker Green in their skin tone? I'm for equal Oppertunities, but genetics does limit and define skin tone... I wonder why we never saw any Dark blue or Baby Blue Andorians....

Blood color doesn't define skin tone, melanin does. Or whatever the equivelant in Vulcans is.

Kirk probably had crabs from all his encounters.

Ewwww...

Space crabs!

Hell yeah. The Defiant could take on the death star. Cloak and transport anti-matter into the central core and it's over.

Yeah, but the death star wasn't that cool to begin wiht. It was destroyed by one hormone - ridded loser and a ship named after the most useless letter of the alphabet. . .

By the way, have you tried any of Patrick Stewarts sexy new fragrance line? He's launced it with "Engage", "Make it So", and "come".

waitin' for weeks to use that joke. . .I am so proud of myself right now. . .:cool:

Yeah, but the death star wasn't that cool to begin wiht. It was destroyed by one hormone - ridded loser and a ship named after the most useless letter of the alphabet. . .

By the way, have you tried any of Patrick Stewarts sexy new fragrance line? He's launced it with "Engage", "Make it So", and "come".

waitin' for weeks to use that joke. . .I am so proud of myself right now. . .:cool:Classiest bit of reconition for Patrick Stewart. in Europe, he was filming a movie (non ST related) and he and the female lead went to a resturant for dinner. they sat down and ordered.

the salads arrived: and their radishes were carved into little Enterprise-D's. they ate their meals, paid and left... with no other signs of reconition from the staff.

TOS: Was the best of all! In the 60'S it did not seem to far away of what could be possible. There was the hint that the Klingons were the USSR.

TOS: Was the best of all! In the 60'S it did not seem to far away of what could be possible. There was the hint that the Klingons were the USSR.

Really? Wasn't alive watching it at the time, but it would seem to me that if anyone was the USSR, it would be the Romulans.

TOS: Was the best of all! In the 60'S it did not seem to far away of what could be possible. There was the hint that the Klingons were the USSR.
That is true. The Klingons were the USSR. That was further confirmed in Undiscovered Country

Romulans were related to Valons ( Spock ). Somewhat like the bad half brothers.

Romulans were related to Valons ( Spock ). Somewhat like the bad half brothers.
Vulcans.

Valons were Babylon 5.

oops, my Geekiness is showing... :(

Romulans were related to Valons ( Spock ). Somewhat like the bad half brothers.

More like the bad evolutionary offshoots that said screw logic, went off, developed bumpy forheads and invented the cloaking device.

Vulcans.

Valons were Babylon 5.

oops, my Geekiness is showing... :(

I'm 47 don't feel bad!

More like the bad evolutionary offshoots that said screw logic, went off, developed bumpy forheads and invented the cloaking device.

In the TOS: Romulans did not have bumpy forheads. That may have came later ( I must have mist it ). They looked like Valcons and had feelings. Kilngons developed bumpy forheads in TNG. ( TOS=The Oring Ser. TNG=The Next Gen )

Sorry, I have to leave now. Got to cut the grass. The phaser is out cystals. :)

Pfft. The Defiant was a heavy destroyer, and certainly wasn't the most powerful ship in the Star Trek Universe. In fact, the one time it fought another Federation Starship was against an outdated Excelsior class vessel, and it got its arse well and truly whipped.

Beat the Enterprise E? Pfft, I say, pfft. It couldn't beat the Enterprise B.

Pshaw. Apparently you didn't see the whole thing: the Defiant beat the snot out of the Lakota. The only reason why the Lakota lasted as long as it did was because the DS9 crew were trying not to fire on fellow Federation officers. The Defiant is probably not as good as an upgraded Galaxy, and certainly not as good as the Sovereigns, but it still packs an enormous wallop in a cheap, mass-produced frame, and it can take a hell of a beating and keep going. To put it in perspective, the Defiant was able to hold off three K'Vorts and a Vor'cha-class cruiser with its shields down; when the alternate Enterprise-D tried to fight off a trio of K'Vort's alone, it managed to destroy only one before its core breached.

Having dispensed with the geekery, I have to say that DS9 is my favorite as well. Quite a few of the other series tend to leave out some of the main characters to a great degree. Enterprise was the biggest culprit of this, but the Original Series was also guilty (although to be fair, the Kirk/McCoy/Spock interaction was superior to any interplay since, with the possible exception of Odo and Quark). The DS9 series, however, invested heavily in all the characters, even some of the little characters. People who would be bar scene attendents in any other series were in this one prized nuggets: Morn, Nog, Rom and Lita, etc. The fact that I could empathize with even Quark on an emotional level made it an extremely good and special series, IMO. If it's not quite as good as Battlestar Galactica and Babylon 5, it's probably third on the list for all-time.

Plus, you have to admit that some of the humor on DS9 was side-splitting. I recall the time Quark was showing another Ferengi around the station and had a bad interaction with Nerys, leading her to the exasperated declaration that Quark was so greedy he'd be on his deathbed begging God to give him more life for his accumulated wealth. The other Ferengi merely turned to Quark and asked in a horrified voice: "How does she know about our secret death ritual?" That kind of thing just cracks me up.

In the TOS: Romulans did not have bumpy forheads. That may have came later ( I must have mist it ). They looked like Valcons and had feelings. Kilngons developed bumpy forheads in TNG. ( TOS=The Oring Ser. TNG=The Next Gen )

Yeah, okay, you're kinda preaching to the choir here, especially since

Vulcans!!!!!

Anyways, the Klingons originally had bumpy forheads. The ones minus bumpy forheads seen in TOS were actually the result of genetic experimentation.

I'm not sure when we first saw bumpy headed Romulans, but they were definitely around by DS9. Different bumps than the Klingons though.

Classiest bit of reconition for Patrick Stewart. in Europe, he was filming a movie (non ST related) and he and the female lead went to a resturant for dinner. they sat down and ordered.

the salads arrived: and their radishes were carved into little Enterprise-D's. they ate their meals, paid and left... with no other signs of reconition from the staff.
I still think my favorite bit of fan reaction was a story told by Nimoy. It seems during the filming of STIV, he and a few other actors were being ferried through San Francisco in a mini-fan on the way to a shoot so they were in full makeup and costume.

The came to a red light and the car ahead of them was covered in Star Trek bumperstickers and the driver's side window was down and they could see a young woman listing to music. Nimoy, in shotgun, got the driver of the mini-van to pull up next to her, leaned out the window, caught the young lady's attention and said, "Live long and prosper" (with the salute). The light turned green and the van left the now histerical woman screaming "Oh my God!" over and over again. :D

None. Star Wars beats them all!!!

I still think my favorite bit of fan reaction was a story told by Nimoy. It seems during the filming of STIV, he and a few other actors were being ferried through San Francisco in a mini-fan on the way to a shoot so they were in full makeup and costume.

The came to a red light and the car ahead of them was covered in Star Trek bumperstickers and the driver's side window was down and they could see a young woman listing to music. Nimoy, in shotgun, got the driver of the mini-van to pull up next to her, leaned out the window, caught the young lady's attention and said, "Live long and prosper" (with the salute). The light turned green and the van left the now histerical woman screaming "Oh my God!" over and over again. :D
As told by George Takei (Sulu) there is one scene in ST:IV where they are walking down the street of San Fransisco. Sulu peeks in a tinted window, Scotty and Dr. Mcoy are looking at the buildings... well, they rehearsed that scene many times to get the timing down... what the actors didn't know is that the bar that Sulu peers into was filled with non acting patrons. every take, there was a woman who would smile and wave nicely to George each time...

untill...

one take, with the cameras rolling, Sulu peers into the bar, and the woman inside promptly raises her dress, flashing him with a full monty! fortunatly, for the cameras, the tinted windows prevented the camera from catching what happened... Unfortunatly, that left a laughing George trying to explain what he just saw.

None. Star Wars beats them all!!!
*ahem* I would rather...
Watch Star Trek V than Star Wars Christmas Special.
Watch Star Trek the animated series than Droids, or Ewok Adventures.
Watch Uhura dance... than hear Lea Sing.

As told by George Takei (Sulu) *snip*
If you ever hear him speak again, get him to tell the story about ST III and watching the Enterprise blow up, you'll understand how good of actors they are and why there are veins buldging in some of their foreheads in that scene.

If you ever hear him speak again, get him to tell the story about ST III and watching the Enterprise blow up, you'll understand how good of actors they are and why there are veins buldging in some of their foreheads in that scene.
I heard a version from James Dohan. when you played a character for that long, and you have to imagine your home for many years slowly burning away by your actions... it does add a real charge of emotion to any scene.

I heard a version from James Dohan. when you played a character for that long, and you have to imagine your home for many years slowly burning away by your actions... it does add a real charge of emotion to any scene.
But that's not... quite what happened.

Nimoy asked one of the stage crew to hold a rod with a flag on it and pretend to the the Enterprise so that the actors can follow it with their eyes together.

1st Take: Said stage crew (That I am told was built like Fabio) races down the isle, everyone's heads whip around.

Nimoy takes the dude aside and gives a talk about the Enterprise burning, the pannels exploding and the need for a SLOW walk.

Take 2: This time the guy is walking so emountionally the flag starts bobbing up and down, along with the actors heads.

Nimoy takes him a aside and tries again.

Take 3: Nice smooth walk... excpet half way down the guy trips over a powercord. Everyone follows him down.

Take 4: Trying really hard not to laugh, they get it right.

But that's not... quite what happened.

Nimoy asked one of the stage crew to hold a rod with a flag on it and pretend to the the Enterprise so that the actors can follow it with their eyes together.

1st Take: Said stage crew (That I am told was built like Fabio) races down the isle, everyone's heads whip around.

Nimoy takes the dude aside and gives a talk about the Enterprise burning, the pannels exploding and the need for a SLOW walk.

Take 2: This time the guy is walking so emountionally the flag starts bobbing up and down, along with the actors heads.

Nimoy takes him a aside and tries again.

Take 3: Nice smooth walk... excpet half way down the guy trips over a powercord. Everyone follows him down.

Take 4: Trying really hard not to laugh, they get it right.
no, he didn't mention that. :D

Now that Blooper Reel I gotta see!