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out of context test

Allers
17-07-2006, 17:59
I'd like you to tell me what it could mean.
It is subject to disruption so be careful.try not flame,and if you do ,stay cool.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/gaffeur/idiots.jpg
Farnhamia
17-07-2006, 18:01
I'd like you to tell me what it could mean.
It is subject to disruption so be careful.try not flame,and if you do ,stay cool.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/gaffeur/idiots.jpg
Uhm ... you got me. Some people have too much time on their hands and should get a real job? Maybe this should have been a poll (I love polls).
Allers
17-07-2006, 18:02
Uhm ... you got me. Some people have too much time on their hands and should get a real job? Maybe this should have been a poll (I love polls).
i have a job
Farnhamia
17-07-2006, 18:03
i have a job
Not you, sorry, the guys in the picture. You aren't in the picture, are you?
A Lynx Bus
17-07-2006, 18:03
That looks doctored for one. Second, it looks like 2 skinheads and a black dude so...um...yea...uh...
Psychotic Mongooses
17-07-2006, 18:04
I don't get it.
A Lynx Bus
17-07-2006, 18:06
Is it supposed to be ironic?
Whereyouthinkyougoing
17-07-2006, 18:10
I didn't quite get what you want us to do.

It looks like it's either an anti-racism ad campaign of sorts, or somebody photoshopped a different text onto the sign, or it's photoshopped altogether. Why would the black guy be wearing dress pants but no shirt? In the subway, to boot?
Also, those skin heads totally don't look like "real" skinheads - not dumb and vacant enough, really.

I don't get it, sorry.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
17-07-2006, 18:11
Or wait - you didn't just ask us if we got the "joke" of the whole thing, did you?
Allers
17-07-2006, 18:12
I didn't quite get what you want us to do.

It looks like it's either an anti-racism ad campaign of sorts, or somebody photoshopped a different text onto the sign, or it's photoshopped altogether. Why would the black guy be wearing dress pants but no shirt? In the subway, to boot?
Also, those skin heads totally don't look like "real" skinheads - not dumb and vacant enough, really.

I don't get it, sorry.
ok it is a publicity.
Minoriteeburg
17-07-2006, 18:13
i dont get it.
Aelosia
17-07-2006, 18:14
I guess it has something to do with the fact that the skinhead lads are digruntled while the negro is openly smiling.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
17-07-2006, 18:14
ok it is a publicity.
Aha, so I did get it after all. And everything, too. Go me! :p
Whereyouthinkyougoing
17-07-2006, 18:18
Although - are they actually running this ad/spot/whatever? (What country is it from anyway?)

It doesn't exactly blow me away, which is probably because of the logical error in the skinheads being the ones holding the sign with that slogan. If it were a classical neo nazi slogan that could be turned against them, it would work, but in this case, it doesn't really make sense.
Allers
17-07-2006, 18:18
Aha, so I did get it after all. And everything, too. Go me! :p
now that the context is put,what does it mean?
Whereyouthinkyougoing
17-07-2006, 18:33
now that the context is put,what does it mean?
Er, so you actually were asking us if we got the point? Oh-kay... o.O
Skinheads are idiots because they need to have their silly uniform.

However - as I pointed out above, I think that ad doesn't really work. I mean, yeah, it probably gets the point across that skinheads are idiots (hello, newsflash!) but it does so in a rather awkward fashion, IMO.

It probably would work if their style of clothing were the be-all and end-all of what there is to neo nazis, but alas, that isn't so.

Plus, like I said, the fact that the guy himself is holding that sign is illogical in this case, and I also think it's ridiculous to counter the two grumpy skinhead guys with the carefree black model sans shirt.
But then again, I'm a stickler for at least some semblance of sense in an advertisement, so maybe it's just me.
Not bad
17-07-2006, 19:00
Fashion Nazis are alive and well in the world of b&w photography.

Or its an advertisement for the new Schick Mark VII 7 bladed head razor.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
17-07-2006, 19:04
Fashion Nazis are alive and well in the world of b&w photography.

Or its an advertisement for the new Schick Mark VII 7 bladed head razor.
I like yours much better than mine. *nod*
Not bad
17-07-2006, 19:07
lets delve deeper. The fact that the pic is black and white and has been crumpled and tossed aside with the obscure "mission chapter 2 page 24" reference leads me to beleive it is an old tossed aside obscure idea whose time has come again.

This ad must promote thrift store chic fashion.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
17-07-2006, 19:58
lets delve deeper. The fact that the pic is black and white and has been crumpled and tossed aside with the obscure "mission chapter 2 page 24" reference leads me to beleive it is an old tossed aside obscure idea whose time has come again.

This ad must promote thrift store chic fashion.
Bah, now I feel all stupid. It totally has to be a fashion ad rather than an anti-racism one - hence the model looks on the black guy and the rather non-sensical sign thing.

So when is the OP going to come back and enlighten us to the purpose of both the ad and the thread?
Tactical Grace
17-07-2006, 20:08
So when is the OP going to come back and enlighten us to the purpose of both the ad and the thread?
In a week, once his forum ban expires. :D
Whereyouthinkyougoing
17-07-2006, 20:14
In a week, once his forum ban expires. :D
Aw man, what a bummer. Couldn't you have at least let him wrap up this one? :p
Tactical Grace
17-07-2006, 20:24
Aw man, what a bummer. Couldn't you have at least let him wrap up this one? :p
Think of it this way, mysteries are so much more satisfying than the mundane truth.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
17-07-2006, 20:32
Think of it this way, mysteries are so much more satisfying than the mundane truth.
In this case at least that's very likely true.

But still. *mopes*
Allers
25-07-2006, 23:01
well tactical grace offer me a bump.
Tacticly seen,it won't be a mystery ,if jou don't have to dig deeper,so i guess it is a bump.
Andaluciae
25-07-2006, 23:05
That looks doctored for one. Second, it looks like 2 skinheads and a black dude so...um...yea...uh...
I think the black dude is Michael Jordan, pre 1994.
Eutrusca
25-07-2006, 23:13
In this case at least that's very likely true.

But still. *mopes*
Awww! You look so CUTE when you mope! :D
Whereyouthinkyougoing
25-07-2006, 23:15
well tactical grace offer me a bump.
Tacticly seen,it won't be a mystery ,if jou don't have to dig deeper,so i guess it is a bump.
Hey, don't go coming back and just bumping this thing - tell us what it was!
Whereyouthinkyougoing
25-07-2006, 23:16
Awww! You look so CUTE when you mope! :D
I don't know how you would know, but it's true, of course. *nods*
Allers
26-07-2006, 15:23
Hey, don't go coming back and just bumping this thing - tell us what it was!

ok,but before that, tell me what do they have in common?
Allers
26-07-2006, 15:29
Fashion Nazis are alive and well in the world of b&w photography.

Or its an advertisement for the new Schick Mark VII 7 bladed head razor.

not bad btw;)
Kanabia
26-07-2006, 15:31
That looks doctored for one. Second, it looks like 2 skinheads and a black dude so...um...yea...uh...

Not all skinheads are racists. Or white. :p
Allers
26-07-2006, 15:43
Not all skinheads are racists. Or white. :p

he doesn't know it
Demented Hamsters
26-07-2006, 16:48
The black dude's got droopy nipples.

Is the sign got something to do with that?
Allers
26-07-2006, 17:23
The black dude's got droopy nipples.

Is the sign got something to do with that?
nope,you don't see it by the"skins"...
next one
Demented Hamsters
26-07-2006, 17:28
nope,you don't see it by the"skins"...
next one
Ohh..I see. The black guy's got his hand in his pocket. Couple that with the broad silly grin plastered on his face and I dare say he's indulging in a bit pocket billards.

Is that it?
Allers
26-07-2006, 17:46
Ohh..I see. The black guy's got his hand in his pocket. Couple that with the broad silly grin plastered on his face and I dare say he's indulging in a bit pocket billards.

Is that it?

no,but you know it!!
A Lynx Bus
26-07-2006, 17:48
Not all skinheads are racists. Or white. :pGreat job adding things that weren't said.
Allers
26-07-2006, 17:50
Great job adding things that weren't said.
it was in an other quote
Kanabia
26-07-2006, 17:50
Is it of a band, maybe, Allers?

Great job adding things that weren't said.

Anytime.
Allers
26-07-2006, 17:54
Is it of a band, maybe, Allers?



Anytime.

no it means the ads works;)
Curious Inquiry
26-07-2006, 17:54
They are from the same military unit, on leave. Since they didn't have to wear their uniforms, one of them failed to wear a shirt. This prevented them from attending some unknown function, hence his mates ridicule.
A Lynx Bus
26-07-2006, 17:57
it was in an other quote
but not by me
Kanabia
26-07-2006, 17:57
no it means the ads works;)

Oh, I think I see. You're pointing out that without a uniform we have no idea who these people are or what they're talking about?
Allers
26-07-2006, 18:00
but not by me
fair enought
Allers
26-07-2006, 18:01
Oh, I think I see. You're pointing out that without a uniform we have no idea who these people are or what they're talking about?

man!!!!!!.look at the picture,
How many people do you see?
New Xero Seven
26-07-2006, 18:02
A good uniform... is no uniform at all... :)
Infinite Revolution
26-07-2006, 18:07
i am sooooo confused. i see three people, all with shaved heads, two white and scowling, one black and smiling. one of the white scowlers is holding up a sign, the significance of which escapes me. i am quite slow, i tend to rely on others to do my figuring out for me. anyone care to oblige?
Allers
26-07-2006, 18:15
i am sooooo confused. i see three people, all with shaved heads, two white and scowling, one black and smiling. one of the white scowlers is holding up a sign, the significance of which escapes me. i am quite slow, i tend to rely on others to do my figuring out for me. anyone care to oblige?
you have to make an image out of it.
What do you see?
Infinite Revolution
26-07-2006, 18:21
just what i described, even when i turned upside-down.
Allers
26-07-2006, 18:24
just what i described, even when i turned upside-down.
ok do they look scottish to you?
Infinite Revolution
26-07-2006, 18:26
there's nothing i can see in the picture that would indicate their nationality
Allers
31-07-2006, 12:16
there's nothing i can see in the picture that would indicate their nationality
me neither,if it is that they don't wear scottish clothing:)
BogMarsh
31-07-2006, 12:20
I'd like you to tell me what it could mean.
It is subject to disruption so be careful.try not flame,and if you do ,stay cool.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/gaffeur/idiots.jpg

It tells me that people who dislike uniformity and orthodoxy are sick puppies.
What else is new?
[NS]Errinundera
31-07-2006, 12:36
They are on a railway platform, no?

Is that relevant?
Allers
31-07-2006, 13:41
Errinundera']They are on a railway platform, no?

Is that relevant?

yes they are,
still it is not relevant
Harlesburg
31-07-2006, 13:57
tag
Allers
31-07-2006, 14:06
tag
E.X.P.L.A.I.N?
BogMarsh
31-07-2006, 14:09
E.X.P.L.A.I.N?

Bump!
Allers
31-07-2006, 15:15
strange,nothing but a bump.
Bodies Without Organs
31-07-2006, 15:35
I'd like you to tell me what it could mean.
It is subject to disruption so be careful.try not flame,and if you do ,stay cool.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/gaffeur/idiots.jpg

Okay. Well firstly to me it looks photoshopped - there is something about the lighting on the combat trousers which doesn't seem quite right. This suggests that it is not an actual photoshoot advertising any particular product.

So, what does the sign lead us to think about? Uniforms.

What are the skinheads wearing? Militaria.

Are they forced to wear them? Nope, they do so by choice.

Thus we are lead to believe that the point isn't one of selling clothing or similar accoutrements, instead it is an attack on militarism.

Going back to the photoshopping: seems to me like aside from the text on the sign, the chap on the right has been added to the picture, thus we have an anti-racist juxtaposition.

It is also inescapable these days to see the word 'idiot' in the political arena without linking it to GWB ('somewhere in Texas a village...' etc.). So, anti-US government too.

So, anti-racist, anti-Bush and anti-military... would we be looking at an attack on the War On Terror and the activities of the Coalition here?
Allers
31-07-2006, 15:37
Okay. Well firstly to me it looks photoshopped - there is something about the lighting on the combat trousers which doesn't seem quite right. This suggests that it is not an actual photoshoot advertising any particular product.

So, what does the sign lead us to think about? Uniforms.

What are the skinheads wearing? Militaria.

Are they forced to wear them? Nope, they do so by choice.

Thus we are lead to believe that the point isn't one of selling clothing or similar accoutrements, instead it is an attack on militarism.

Going back to the photoshopping: seems to me like aside from the text on the sign, the chap on the right has been added to the picture, thus we have an anti-racist juxtaposition.

So, anti-racist and anti-military... would we be looking at an attack on the War On Terror and the activities of the Coalition here?


IT IS NOT PHOTOSHOPED
Bodies Without Organs
31-07-2006, 15:39
IT IS NOT PHOTOSHOPED

Really? (I do actually believe you). As I say the camoflague on the centre fellow's trousers seems to be strangely in focus compared to the rest of the picture, but that could well just be a trick of the light if you insist it is an undoctored picture.

EDIT: anyhoo, is it a comment on Iraq & Afghanistan?
BogMarsh
31-07-2006, 15:43
strange,nothing but a bump.

You're forgiven for not understanding anglo-saxon kiddiegames.

TAG!
Allers
31-07-2006, 15:49
You're forgiven for not understanding anglo-saxon kiddiegames.

TAG!
Zo,So,Quoi?
Allers
31-07-2006, 15:54
Really? (I do actually believe you). As I say the camoflague on the centre fellow's trousers seems to be strangely in focus compared to the rest of the picture, but that could well just be a trick of the light if you insist it is an undoctored picture.

EDIT: anyhoo, is it a comment on Iraq & Afghanistan?
no .
It is about bullshit.
Allers
01-08-2006, 15:29
ok i have a clue for you all
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=494396
Was that so difficult to see?
Bodies Without Organs
01-08-2006, 15:39
no .
It is about bullshit.

What evidence do ou have for this assertion?
Infinite Revolution
01-08-2006, 15:44
ok i have a clue for you all
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=494396
Was that so difficult to see?
none of them are wearing pants? they're all wearing thongs? they all speak a funny regional dialect which calls hats pants?
Allers
01-08-2006, 15:57
What evidence do ou have for this assertion?
the fact,that i know were the ads come from
And does nothing but suggesting wat you want to see.
Afganistan or irak it doesn't matter.
Btw why do you think it could be related to those 2 states(if they still exist)?
Bodies Without Organs
01-08-2006, 16:04
the fact,that i know were the ads come from
And does nothing but suggesting wat you want to see.
Afganistan or irak it doesn't matter.
Btw why do you think it could be related to those 2 states(if they still exist)?

Well, in retrospect:

http://www.rebelforums.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=33&st=0&#entry44
Allers
01-08-2006, 16:12
Well, in retrospect:

http://www.rebelforums.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=33&st=0&#entry44

i'm curious .do you think criticism is collateral,if you think so then i'm a reactionary,but if you think i made this up say it
Bodies Without Organs
01-08-2006, 16:18
i'm curious .do you think criticism is collateral,if you think so then i'm a reactionary,but if you think i made this up say it

Sorry, I'm not quite able to make sense of that post.
Cullons
01-08-2006, 16:21
looks like a advert for trousers to me.
Fashion nazies (ie the 2 white bald guys)
Smiling topless blackguy in trousers you should buy to be different!
Allers
01-08-2006, 16:21
Sorry, I'm not quite able to make sense of that post.
why do you think this post card is manipulated?
Bodies Without Organs
01-08-2006, 16:26
why do you think this post card is manipulated?

Because there seems something strange about the lighting.

The central figure appears to be mainly lit from in front, and also behind, whereas the chap on the left looks like he is lit from the right, and the chap on the right is lit from above and the left.

Not that such conditions would be impossible in an unmanipulated photo, but it looks tweaked to me.
Anti-Social Darwinism
01-08-2006, 16:28
So, most rebellion consists of conforming to a standard outside the generally accepted one. It's still conformity. No one is really thinking independently.
Allers
01-08-2006, 16:32
Because there seems something strange about the lighting.

The central figure appears to be mainly lit from in front, and also behind, whereas the chap on the left looks like he is lit from the right, and the chap on the right is lit from above and the left.

Not that such conditions would be impossible in an unmanipulated photo, but it looks tweaked to me.

believe me i just scaned it,which doesn't mean it was'nt manipulated back in 97"
in fact it may be the all purpose of this tread,which is mean to be contextuel
Whereyouthinkyougoing
01-08-2006, 17:29
ok i have a clue for you all
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=494396
Was that so difficult to see?
Excuse me? You make a thread asking us a question, and keep it going for 2 fucking weeks, and then it's, what, about pants? WTF? What about the pants? The Neonazis wear different pants than the pretty model guy? Ooh, surprise. What was the point of this whole thing? Was there a point? No? Yeah, I realize that now. :rolleyes:
Allers
01-08-2006, 17:34
Excuse me? You make a thread asking us a question, and keep it going for 2 fucking weeks, and then it's, what, about pants? WTF? What about the pants? The Neonazis wear different pants than the pretty model guy? Ooh, surprise. What was the point of this whole thing? Was there a point? No? Yeah, I realize that now. :rolleyes:
At least you realized, it is not always what it means/seem
to be,also nobody said those guys were neo nazis
Allers
02-08-2006, 18:02
So what was the context all about?
Nobody?
Bodies Without Organs
03-08-2006, 01:40
believe me i just scaned it,which doesn't mean it was'nt manipulated back in 97"
in fact it may be the all purpose of this tread,which is mean to be contextuel

If you yourself just scanned it and posted it on the internet, why does the image file have exactly the same URL as the same image file referenced on this page - http://www.rebelforums.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=33&st=0&#entry44 - and posted over a year ago?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/gaffeur/idiots.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/gaffeur/idiots.jpg
Donkey Kongo
03-08-2006, 01:52
This thread confuses me. Is the picture a riddle or what? Pants? I'm so confused.
Allers
03-08-2006, 16:56
If you yourself just scanned it and posted it on the internet, why does the image file have exactly the same URL as the same image file referenced on this page - http://www.rebelforums.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=33&st=0&#entry44 - and posted over a year ago?
i scanned it a long time ago by "just" i just wanted to say it was not photoshoped

May be i'm gaf,who knows?
Bodies Without Organs
04-08-2006, 02:25
i scanned it a long time ago by "just" i just wanted to say it was not photoshoped

May be i'm gaf,who knows?

If you are 'gaf' then why do you pretend to be borderline dyslexic on this board, but not on rebelforums?
Terecia
04-08-2006, 02:49
The black guy is wearing white pants and the white guys have black jackets.

The two skinheads in the back, though uniform in ideals, aren't uniform in clothing, hence they are calling themselves idiots.

That's all I got from it.
Peisandros
04-08-2006, 03:07
*blinks*
Allers
04-08-2006, 07:51
If you are 'gaf' then why do you pretend to be borderline dyslexic on this board, but not on rebelforums?
uh?
Allers
09-08-2006, 17:15
i'm happy to discover,it is over a pant.bump
Demented Hamsters
09-08-2006, 18:48
Excuse me? You make a thread asking us a question, and keep it going for 2 fucking weeks, and then it's, what, about pants? WTF? What about the pants? The Neonazis wear different pants than the pretty model guy? Ooh, surprise. What was the point of this whole thing? Was there a point? No? Yeah, I realize that now. :rolleyes:
You right. This thread was about pants.

As in the total bloody thread is pants.

I think the OP was just lonely, so posted a stoopid pic and pretended it was mysterious. That way he'd have some ppl to chat to.
Allers
09-08-2006, 18:55
You right. This thread was about pants.

As in the total bloody thread is pants.

I think the OP was just lonely, so posted a stoopid pic and pretended it was mysterious. That way he'd have some ppl to chat to.\

well it works,and really was an ad
Still you just don't know if it means anything,
And if it does, well some pants are not needed