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I've always wondered about this, why are kids so special? I always hear "think of the kids" or "we must protect the kids" or "in war you cant go after kids". I hope you understand what Im getting at because it is kind of late. but really, why are they so special? I find them just to be really annoying.

I've always wondered about this, why are kids so special? I always hear "think of the kids" or "we must protect the kids" or "in war you cant go after kids". I hope you understand what Im getting at because it is kind of late. but really, why are they so special? I find them just to be really annoying.


You were a kid once to you know?

I've always wondered about this, why are kids so special? I always hear "think of the kids" or "we must protect the kids" or "in war you cant go after kids". I hope you understand what Im getting at because it is kind of late. but really, why are they so special? I find them just to be really annoying.

everyone was a kid, at one point in their life
why must we protect the kids? hm....because they can't protect themselves

everyone was a kid, at one point in their life
why must we protect the kids? hm....because they can't protect themselves

Sure they can, just give them a BB gun and a whistle and let the bastards play!

I made a thread about this a few months ago that was much better, but then it wasn’t as late.
Basically it all boils down to people sucking, as everything eventually does.

I've always wondered about this, why are kids so special? I always hear "think of the kids" or "we must protect the kids" or "in war you cant go after kids". I hope you understand what Im getting at because it is kind of late. but really, why are they so special? I find them just to be really annoying.

For "think of the children" it mostly parents being overpotective and kids can't defend themselves and we (usually) have some sort of instinct to protect them.
For in war: you shouldn't go after the kids it's because of their innocence and their defenselessness. Also they have more of their life left to live and they really haven't had a chance. Plus, we are programed that way, because for our species survival we have to protect future generations so it's part of us I guess.

Sure they can, just give them a BB gun and a whistle and let the bastards play!

yea, right, because their aim and ability to know how to use those things are highly developed at that age/srcsm:sniper:

yea, right, because their aim and ability to know how to use those things are highly developed at that age/srcsm:sniper:

No one has my sense of humor I guess....

Kids are our future!







Unless we kill them right now.

Kids are our future!







Unless we kill them right now.

Eat the fat kids, they have natural stuffings!

I made a thread about this a few months ago that was much better, but then it wasn’t as late.
Basically it all boils down to people sucking, as everything eventually does.
ah, I bet it was. Its hard to try to get across what I am trying to get across when Im barely able to think as I am now.

You were a kid once to you know?
no, I wasnt. I came out of my mom when I was 16. Like a kangroo

Eat the fat kids, they have natural stuffings!Man, that line makes me laugh whenever I read it for some reason. But, really children until they get to ten are pretty innocent, but when they hit puberty everyone knows what happens then with all the raging hormones.

no, I wasnt. I came out of my mom when I was 16. Like a kangroo
Has anyone seen the SNL sketch where a lady gives birth to a fully grown Will Farrell?

FUCK THE CHILDREN!!!!!!!
Kids ain't shit, and I hate them.

Kill them.

I've always wondered about this, why are kids so special? I always hear "think of the kids" or "we must protect the kids" or "in war you cant go after kids". I hope you understand what Im getting at because it is kind of late. but really, why are they so special? I find them just to be really annoying.

I can understand about the war thing... But other than that, kids piss me off. And yeah, I know we were all kids once, but if I met myself from ten years ago, I'd probaly kick my own ten-years-ago ass and yell "Shut up already!"

nature makes the young of every species 'cute', relatively cute for their species anyway, so that their species has a chance to survive instead of their elders killing them out of hand/paw/claw/....

=^^=
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I've always wondered about this, why are kids so special? I always hear "think of the kids" or "we must protect the kids" or "in war you cant go after kids". I hope you understand what Im getting at because it is kind of late. but really, why are they so special? I find them just to be really annoying.

Because it is our natural instinct to protect our young? From the top of the highest peak the mountain goat defends its young as well as to the furvy low of the wily whale.

Kids are wankers. You could walk past them be twice there age and they will either take the piss out of you, swear at you or throw someting at you. I also notice they run away straight away. At least they smart.

Kids ... will either take the piss out of you...


???? Now that's an artful dodger.

Because it is our natural instinct to protect our young? From the top of the highest peak the mountain goat defends its young as well as to the furvy low of the wily whale.

Well, except when dolphins kill their own young due to their not being enough food to go around...

...or when jackals eat their own litters for the same reason...

or any of the other examples of adult animals killing their own young (and never mind killing the young of others of their species *cough*lions*cough*)

'Natural instincts' tend to be a little more gritty and gorey than people give them credit for.

I made a thread about this a few months ago that was much better, but then it wasn’t as late.
Basically it all boils down to people sucking, as everything eventually does.
Nice. The more I read, the more I like.

Well, except when dolphins kill their own young due to their not being enough food to go around...

...or when jackals eat their own litters for the same reason...

or any of the other examples of adult animals killing their own young (and never mind killing the young of others of their species *cough*lions*cough*)

'Natural instincts' tend to be a little more gritty and gorey than people give them credit for.


Ew.
Well then i'm not sure what we keep them around for.

Ew.
Well then i'm not sure what we keep them around for.

To use them against the former wife/husband after a divorce?

To use them against the former wife/husband after a divorce?

And to dress them up to match our outfits/the outfits of our pets.

And to dress them up to match our outfits/the outfits of our pets.

Ugh... I would've slapped the shit outta my parents if they tried to do that to me...

I hate kids.

However, protecting them is our instinct.

Damn instincts...

Isn't evolution a bitch? It makes protecting the annoying whiney bastards a biological imperitive...

Because it is our natural instinct to protect our young? From the top of the highest peak the mountain goat defends its young as well as to the furvy low of the wily whale.

:confused:

I've always wondered about this, why are kids so special? I always hear "think of the kids" or "we must protect the kids" or "in war you cant go after kids". I hope you understand what Im getting at because it is kind of late. but really, why are they so special? I find them just to be really annoying.
because they are the future

yea, right, because their aim and ability to know how to use those things are highly developed at that age/srcsm:sniper:
Maybe not in contries with gun control. *Hugs childhood rifle*

I think the big fear is that we will screw them up so bad that they will be nonfunctioning adults. Can some things they are "protected from" screw them up? probably. Will most of it? probably not.

The thing that really screws kids up (and you won't hear this often) are parents who are too worried about what other people are doing and not worried enough about what they aren't doing to raise their children.

I think the big fear is that we will screw them up so bad that they will be nonfunctioning adults.

oh no, not for my parents. my mum took it as a challenge to see how much she could possibly screw us up....

i think the great thing about kids is that they're the ultimate accessory, babies are so in this season!

Man, that line makes me laugh whenever I read it for some reason. But, really children until they get to ten are pretty innocent, but when they hit puberty everyone knows what happens then with all the raging hormones.

Pfft. Innocent, yeah right. Kids are cruel little buggers.

they taste good on toast.. with a little pepper

mmmmm

I've always wondered about this, why are kids so special? I always hear "think of the kids" or "we must protect the kids" or "in war you cant go after kids". I hope you understand what Im getting at because it is kind of late. but really, why are they so special? I find them just to be really annoying.

Soviet Stan, are you trying to get those "pesky" age of consent laws abolished again?

I'm not saying you agree with this, but there is a large segment of the Forum members who want to legalize pedophila as "just another sexuality," and I feel your argument is another front in this attack on children.

Mainly cause kids are in their learning point of life, and if they don't get a decent childhood, their future will be fucked up.

If I grew up in the center of a war, I'd probably be a mental case, or a cold blood killer.

The point is to make children grow up to be civilized, not teach them how to start wars. If you put a bunch of children in a war, you'd harvest killer machines.

What really makes me wonder is this: in all American movies/serieses (serii?) pregnant women are something incredibly holy. If the bad guy is just about to kill a woman he will stop if the woman tells him she's pregnant.

I understand that in the later stages of pregnancy the woman will have a harder time so giving her some slack is normal, but why on earth does it matter if there's a mass of cells inside the body of someone? Even if the woman has been pregnant for only one day she will be pardoned of a lot of things.

What really makes me wonder is this: in all American movies/serieses (serii?) pregnant women are something incredibly holy. If the bad guy is just about to kill a woman he will stop if the woman tells him she's pregnant.

This is just the anti-choicers using their clout in Hollywood. Everyone knows that even if your pregnant IT'S NOT A BABY, its a fetus. Harming a pregnant women should be no different than harming another woman.

I'm strongly for women's rights, but if it takes Hollywood showing more attacks on pregnant women to emphasize that there is nothing that makes her more than one life, then we need to do this.

But, really children until they get to ten are pretty innocent,
Heh, yeah right. About as innocent as Hannibal Lecter. It is wrong, they just don't agree.

People in our society coddle children way too much.

Children are not some incredibly fragile thing that must be sheltered from the most gentle breeze.

I will point out the hygiene theory of allergies – many doctors believe that the reason why so many kids develop allergies is that their immune systems are not exposed to enough. The children that go outside and play in the mud tend not to develop allergies.

We need to stop ‘protecting’ children as much as we do – I see nothing wrong with nudity or violence on TV. Sex is a natural part of life and as such should not be hidden from children. Those that grow up on farms know all about it from a very young age, and are far more mature and knowledgeable about sex (because they see and understand it) than those sheltered from it. If you talk to kids about it, rather than denying its existence, you will find that they will not turn into psychotic lunatics who will chop you into little bits when they become a teenager.

While I have no children myself – I have no problem teaching other peoples kids about the world. I have no hesitation about taking a friend’s 5 year old and teaching him about raising rabbits – from breeding them up to butchering them. It is a fact of life – not ‘icky’. This kid will grow up to be very level-headed rather than being woefully naive about everything. He will be able to fend for himself rather than be dependent on someone else to take care of everything for him. Knowledge and independence are the best things to give to a child as they will gain a sense of personal responsibility and have the capacity for rational thought.

My 14 year old cousin on the other hand, was a very coddled child. He is incapable of functioning by himself – he has to be in constant contact (as in calls a minimum of once an hour and freaks out if he doesn’t have any phone signal ‘just in case’) with his mother. He hasn’t the slightest clue about where things come from – meat, milk, and vegetables come from the supermarket. He has heard about farms but cannot understand that the food in a marker has to come from somewhere and gets very upset at the slightest implication that a cute little calf on a farm will one day be a steak on the grill. He gets picked on in school (of course) so his mother lets him skip school for a few days because he is upset about it. This kid is turning into a useless member of society – he is frightened of everything, has a total lack of common sense, and is incapable of doing anything productive.

Teach kids about the world = knowledgeable, capable, productive, mature members of society.

Protect kids from life = ignorant, naïve, incapable, unproductive, and generally useless to society.

Soviet Stan, are you trying to get those "pesky" age of consent laws abolished again?

I'm not saying you agree with this, but there is a large segment of the Forum members who want to legalize pedophila as "just another sexuality," and I feel your argument is another front in this attack on children.
no, actually thats not it at all, Im not a pedophile nor do I agree with them. All Im saying is that kids are treated too special as if they are so great.

People in our society coddle children way too much.

Children are not some incredibly fragile thing that must be sheltered from the most gentle breeze.

I will point out the hygiene theory of allergies – many doctors believe that the reason why so many kids develop allergies is that their immune systems are not exposed to enough. The children that go outside and play in the mud tend not to develop allergies.

We need to stop ‘protecting’ children as much as we do – I see nothing wrong with nudity or violence on TV. Sex is a natural part of life and as such should not be hidden from children. Those that grow up on farms know all about it from a very young age, and are far more mature and knowledgeable about sex (because they see and understand it) than those sheltered from it. If you talk to kids about it, rather than denying its existence, you will find that they will not turn into psychotic lunatics who will chop you into little bits when they become a teenager.

While I have no children myself – I have no problem teaching other peoples kids about the world. I have no hesitation about taking a friend’s 5 year old and teaching him about raising rabbits – from breeding them up to butchering them. It is a fact of life – not ‘icky’. This kid will grow up to be very level-headed rather than being woefully naive about everything. He will be able to fend for himself rather than be dependent on someone else to take care of everything for him. Knowledge and independence are the best things to give to a child as they will gain a sense of personal responsibility and have the capacity for rational thought.

My 14 year old cousin on the other hand, was a very coddled child. He is incapable of functioning by himself – he has to be in constant contact (as in calls a minimum of once an hour and freaks out if he doesn’t have any phone signal ‘just in case’) with his mother. He hasn’t the slightest clue about where things come from – meat, milk, and vegetables come from the supermarket. He has heard about farms but cannot understand that the food in a marker has to come from somewhere and gets very upset at the slightest implication that a cute little calf on a farm will one day be a steak on the grill. He gets picked on in school (of course) so his mother lets him skip school for a few days because he is upset about it. This kid is turning into a useless member of society – he is frightened of everything, has a total lack of common sense, and is incapable of doing anything productive.

Teach kids about the world = knowledgeable, capable, productive, mature members of society.

Protect kids from life = ignorant, naïve, incapable, unproductive, and generally useless to society.

so basically let me get this straight.

you have no kids, you have unproven theories based on anecdotes (should I really even use the word theory there?) and you think that letting kids sit down and watch porn is good for them?

hmm.......I was reaching with the porn.... anyway, it's not so black and white, there is this comfy grey area inbetween protecting kids from everything out there, and letting them watch porn and see people being beheaded.

so basically let me get this straight.

you have no kids, you have unproven theories based on anecdotes (should I really even use the word theory there?) and you think that letting kids sit down and watch porn is good for them?

hmm.......I was reaching with the porn.... anyway, it's not so black and white, there is this comfy grey area inbetween protecting kids from everything out there, and letting them watch porn and see people being beheaded.
You know, a child is going to be hurt more by eating a hamburger than seeing two people having sex.

Err... you didn't happen to see my "Think of the Children!!!" thread, didja?

Anyways... I've always wondered why you could watch television and see 48 people get chopped into pieces by a psychopathic killer and nobody says anything, but two people having sex-or even just a boob- evokes a loud "WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!" and a $350,000 FCC fine. :confused:

It's the same thing with gay marriage, it seems. Nobody wants their kids to see two guys/two girls kissing in the middle of the street, so they yell "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" :headbang:

I made a story about this too. And yes, it is called "Think of the Children!".

so basically let me get this straight.

you have no kids, you have unproven theories based on anecdotes (should I really even use the word theory there?) and you think that letting kids sit down and watch porn is good for them?

hmm.......I was reaching with the porn.... anyway, it's not so black and white, there is this comfy grey area inbetween protecting kids from everything out there, and letting them watch porn and see people being beheaded.

Because if they see people get behaeded they'll...What? Become serial killers? Hang themselves? Wet themselves?

I've always wondered about this, why are kids so special? I find them just to be really annoying.
What? You were never a kid? :eek:

They're our future. They're all most of us will leave behind to show that we were even here. A child well-raised is a gift to the future of all of us.

Because if they see people get behaeded they'll...What? Become serial killers? Hang themselves? Wet themselves?

i can't imagine it's having a very positive effect on the children. when i was a kid i saw a movie where this guy poisoned his parents and their hair fell out and they were all foaming at the mouth. i had nightmares for months after that... i could have done without that....

i can't imagine it's having a very positive effect on the children. when i was a kid i saw a movie where this guy poisoned his parents and their hair fell out and they were all foaming at the mouth. i had nightmares for months after that... i could have done without that....

Nightmares don't mean lifelong trauma or anything. I barely even remember any of the nightmares I had as a child. I couldn't stand scary movies up until I was about 12, I couldn't even sit through Jurassic Park. Then one day I randomly watched all the Alien movies and afterwards I could handle almost any scary movie thrown at me.

I'm not sure what the moral of that anecdote was. Possibly that kids can use a little fright in their life. Toughens them up. Or something.

Honestly, I think my parents indulged in my fears too much, and now I'm somewhat paranoid. Though that could just be an over-active imagination. But really, I only stopped sleeping with a nightlight months ago. I'm eighteen. My parents should have weaned me off it more than a decade ago.

i can't imagine it's having a very positive effect on the children. when i was a kid i saw a movie where this guy poisoned his parents and their hair fell out and they were all foaming at the mouth. i had nightmares for months after that... i could have done without that....

I'll put that under "wet themselves".

Nightmares don't mean lifelong trauma or anything.

Depending on the circumstances, they sometimes can, to be fair.

But really, I only stopped sleeping with a nightlight months ago. I'm eighteen. My parents should have weaned me off it more than a decade ago.

Why? I know a fair number of adults who use nightlights. Heck, when my grandmother died a few months ago, we put a nightlight in the casket, because she always hated to sleep in the dark. :)

Nightmares don't mean lifelong trauma or anything. I barely even remember any of the nightmares I had as a child. I couldn't stand scary movies up until I was about 12, I couldn't even sit through Jurassic Park. Then one day I randomly watched all the Alien movies and afterwards I could handle almost any scary movie thrown at me.

I'm not sure what the moral of that anecdote was. Possibly that kids can use a little fright in their life. Toughens them up. Or something.

Honestly, I think my parents indulged in my fears too much, and now I'm somewhat paranoid. Though that could just be an over-active imagination. But really, I only stopped sleeping with a nightlight months ago. I'm eighteen. My parents should have weaned me off it more than a decade ago.

you know what? i still jump quickly onto my bed just in case the ankle-grabber gets me... and i'm 22. maybe i'm just easly fuckupable, but my parents didn't mind too much what i watched and after watching soylent green, i didn't eat for a week, and now i'm short :mad:
and it's all their fault.... (well, there's genetics too blah blah blah)

I'll put that under "wet themselves".

did NOT

did NOT

Did not what?

1) Become serial killers
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2) Hang themselves
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3) Wet themselves
Eh-oh
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Did not what?

i didn't piss myself. and i could become a serial killer if i wanted....

Depending on the circumstances, they sometimes can, to be fair.

True. I've heard of night terrors, and those sound like they could be trauma-inducing. In general though, kids will live through nightmares and forget about them later.

Why? I know a fair number of adults who use nightlights. Heck, when my grandmother died a few months ago, we put a nightlight in the casket, because she always hated to sleep in the dark. :)

Because I can sleep without a nightlight, and keeping using one was a needless waste of energy. And if nipped in the bud, everyone could probably sleep just fine without a nightlight. I'd imagine it'd be harder to get rid of a want/need for nightlights later in life, after the behaviour has set in.

Also, I've read studies about how apparently it's healthier to have full dark while you sleep.

i didn't piss myself. and i could become a serial killer if i wanted....

You just keep telling yourself that...

Also, I've read studies about how apparently it's healthier to have full dark while you sleep.

you know, i think it's even healthier to have sleep.. and not just lie on your bed alone in the dark wondering when wee little winkie will come to disembowel you because you're not asleep yet....

Because if they see people get behaeded they'll...What? Become serial killers? Hang themselves? Wet themselves?
you don't know what might happen, kids are different, some kids might be fine with it, while others could be severely traumatized to see a person getting beheaded.

Children are not adults, they don't have the processing abilities that adults have, how much did it screw me up to see my mom get stabbed? probably a lot more than it screwed me up as an adult to have someone show up at my door with their throat slit and the abusive husband right behind them.

It's like I said in my first post on the thred, will everything that kids are being protected from harm them? probably not. will some of it? probably.

How do you know the difference? You won't know until afterwards, it's up to parents to make wise choices about what is okay for their kids and what isn't.

I am not advocating mass censorship because some kids are sensitive, but I am not going to sit around and listen to the "sex is natural, violence is okay, lets all do whatever we want and worry about what it might be doing to the kids later" crap.

You just keep telling yourself that...

i really could you know, it's just that i've got a bad arm and my doctor said to lay off the killing people for a while... too strenuous

Honestly, I think my parents indulged in my fears too much, and now I'm somewhat paranoid. Though that could just be an over-active imagination. But really, I only stopped sleeping with a nightlight months ago. I'm eighteen. My parents should have weaned me off it more than a decade ago.

You know some people can wean themselves off of nightlights before the age of 18. Take some responsablility.

you know what? i still jump quickly onto my bed just in case the ankle-grabber gets me... and i'm 22. maybe i'm just easly fuckupable, but my parents didn't mind too much what i watched and after watching soylent green, i didn't eat for a week, and now i'm short :mad:
and it's all their fault.... (well, there's genetics too blah blah blah)

I still worry about underbed monsters occasionally, or the things lurking in the dark. Like I said, I'm a somewhat paranoid person.

How did you manage to not eat for a week? :eek: I'd have been scrambling for food after a day. How old were you?

However, out of all the things I experienced during childhood, the only ones that might have come close to traumatizing me weren't things that my parents, or any adult really, could have stopped, and came from other children.

You know some people can wean themselves off of nightlights before the age of 18. Take some responsablility.

Yes, I know. What do you think I finally did? I'm saying my parents probably should have done it back when I was a lot younger.

True. I've heard of night terrors, and those sound like they could be trauma-inducing. In general though, kids will live through nightmares and forget about them later.

Indeed. Nightmares can also be symptoms rather than causes of trauma. Recurring nightmares can often be a good warning sign of a developing phobia, and phobias are distinctly difficult to rid oneself of once they've set in.


Because I can sleep without a nightlight, and keeping using one was a needless waste of energy. And if nipped in the bud, everyone could probably sleep just fine without a nightlight. I'd imagine it'd be harder to get rid of a want/need for nightlights later in life, after the behaviour has set in.

Also, I've read studies about how apparently it's healthier to have full dark while you sleep.

Gotcha. Yeah, getting rid of the nightlight if you really don't need it makes sense. I just figure it's not exactly something worth worrying overmuch about - if people are happier sleeping with nightlights, neither the amount of light produced nor the amount of electricity used is significant enough for anyone to struggle to go without it.

I still worry about underbed monsters occasionally, or the things lurking in the dark. Like I said, I'm a somewhat paranoid person.

How did you manage to not eat for a week? :eek: I'd have been scrambling for food after a day. How old were you?

However, out of all the things I experienced during childhood, the only ones that might have come close to traumatizing me weren't things that my parents, or any adult really, could have stopped, and came from other children.

like, seven. well, ok i did eat, but not much. you get what i'm sayin. i'm slightly prone to hyperbole...

when it comes to traumatising i'd have to say siblings are the worst

you know, i think it's even healthier to have sleep.. and not just lie on your bed alone in the dark wondering when wee little winkie will come to disembowel you because you're not asleep yet....

Well, if you're afraid enough of the dark for it to result in insomnia, it becomes a problem. Nightlights all the way then. I have to wonder how such a deep fear developed, if maybe it's a full-blown phobia, if something could have been done to prevent that deep of a fear from sticking... whatever.

In my case, there was no reason to have kept my nightlight around for so long. I'm just as paranoid with it as without it, and so I finally got my act together and got rid of it. I probably would have been just as fine without it back when I was eight.

like, seven. well, ok i did eat, but not much. you get what i'm sayin. i'm slightly prone to hyperbole...


Be glad you didn't literally go for a week without food. I've done it, and BOY is it unpleasant when you start eating again...

Be glad you didn't literally go for a week without food. I've done it, and BOY is it unpleasant when you start eating again...

Really? How? I might have to try that....

Be glad you didn't literally go for a week without food. I've done it, and BOY is it unpleasant when you start eating again...

i know, i did a fast thing for lent(i didn't go the whole time without food, but it sure was like it)

Really? How? I might have to try that....

How? Suffice it to say that every last inch of your digestive system acts as if it has no freaking idea what it's supposed to be doing with this "food" stuff. Every. Last. Inch.

You really don't want to try it. Trust me.

How? Suffice it to say that every last inch of your digestive system acts as if it has no freaking idea what it's supposed to be doing with this "food" stuff. Every. Last. Inch.

You really don't want to try it. Trust me.

yeah, plus it messes with your stomach... if you what i mean...

Indeed. Nightmares can also be symptoms rather than causes of trauma. Recurring nightmares can often be a good warning sign of a developing phobia, and phobias are distinctly difficult to rid oneself of once they've set in.

I did not know that! How interesting. I think the only recurring nightmares I had as a child were one where I accidentally killed my dog, one involving giant mosquitos killing people, and one involving giant owls killing people. None of those are fears that bother me anymore, thankfully.

Gotcha. Yeah, getting rid of the nightlight if you really don't need it makes sense. I just figure it's not exactly something worth worrying overmuch about - if people are happier sleeping with nightlights, neither the amount of light produced nor the amount of electricity used is significant enough for anyone to struggle to go without it.

I'm just wondering if some people would've been able to live without nightlights if the lights had been taken from them at an earlier time. After having slept with them for a large portion of their life I'd imagine people could become dependent on them. Just like if a person had always slept with another person in their bed, they might have trouble adjusting to sleeping alone. May or may not be true.

you don't know what might happen, kids are different, some kids might be fine with it, while others could be severely traumatized to see a person getting beheaded.

Children are not adults, they don't have the processing abilities that adults have, how much did it screw me up to see my mom get stabbed? probably a lot more than it screwed me up as an adult to have someone show up at my door with their throat slit and the abusive husband right behind them.

It's like I said in my first post on the thred, will everything that kids are being protected from harm them? probably not. will some of it? probably.

How do you know the difference? You won't know until afterwards, it's up to parents to make wise choices about what is okay for their kids and what isn't.

I am not advocating mass censorship because some kids are sensitive, but I am not going to sit around and listen to the "sex is natural, violence is okay, lets all do whatever we want and worry about what it might be doing to the kids later" crap.

You call that crap? Compared to the nameless "harm" that might befall some children?

You call that crap?
yes.

Compared to the nameless "harm" that might befall some children?
There aren't really studies that are done to see how bad something would fuck up a kid, you want to know why? because it's dangerous.

All I am saying is that there is a grey area between putting your kids in a cardboard box surrounded by a forcefield and letting them rent porn for their 3rd birthday.

You guys present a false choice, you say "oh, sex is natural, it shouldn't be hidden from kids, they should be able to watch people having sex because I want to have sex, and if you don't agree you probably dont' even let them see themselves naked because you are a prude and you want to let them grow up sheltered, you are a bad parent"

I am very parent's rights, nobody should be allowed to tell me how to raise my kids, the other side of that of course is that I am responsible for raising my kids.

I did not know that! How interesting. I think the only recurring nightmares I had as a child were one where I accidentally killed my dog, one involving giant mosquitos killing people, and one involving giant owls killing people. None of those are fears that bother me anymore, thankfully.

You never know - you might have a phobia of giant murderous owls, and just never have had occasion to notice. :p

But, yeah, recurring nightmares, especially those obviously closely based on real experiences, are not uncommon phobia indicators, at least from what I've read on the subject.


I'm just wondering if some people would've been able to live without nightlights if the lights had been taken from them at an earlier time. After having slept with them for a large portion of their life I'd imagine people could become dependent on them. Just like if a person had always slept with another person in their bed, they might have trouble adjusting to sleeping alone. May or may not be true.

That's certainly extremely possible - I certainly find it more difficult to sleep in strange settings, and I suspect I'm far from alone in that. If you're used to sleeping in dim light, you will unquestionably associate dim light more with sleep than you do total darkness. People who grow up in cities frequently have trouble sleeping without the noise of traffic; I grew up in a rural setting, and inevitably have a hard time sleeping anywhere I can hear traffic. Sleep habits, like all habits, are hard to break. :)

You never know - you might have a phobia of giant murderous owls, and just never have had occasion to notice. :p

But, yeah, recurring nightmares, especially those obviously closely based on real experiences, are not uncommon phobia indicators, at least from what I've read on the subject.

Heh, well with the owls, I'd say they were caused by a mix of a childhood cartoon (Rock-a-doodle-doo it was called maybe?) and an event that I'm not entirely sure actually happened, where I was being babysat and I was playing in the doorway of a dark room, looked up at the window, saw an owl there and freaked out in shock. But I love owls now!

I wonder if maybe it's a good idea for parents to keep track of their children's nightmares then?

That's certainly extremely possible - I certainly find it more difficult to sleep in strange settings, and I suspect I'm far from alone in that. If you're used to sleeping in dim light, you will unquestionably associate dim light more with sleep than you do total darkness. People who grow up in cities frequently have trouble sleeping without the noise of traffic; I grew up in a rural setting, and inevitably have a hard time sleeping anywhere I can hear traffic. Sleep habits, like all habits, are hard to break. :)

Silly habitual humans! :D

Given how much the conditions we're used to sleeping in affect how well we sleep in other conditions, I could see the link between light meaning safe added to that could easily make a person dependent on a nightlight.