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I love Star Wars my favourite character from the film is Anakin (before he turned dark side), otherwise Quinlan Vos.

Anakin:http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:AnakinSkywalker.jpg

Quinlan Vos:http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Quinlan.jpg

my favorite is Wedge Antillies. a human pilot that is as good (if not better) than a Jedi when it comes to flying.

I have to admit that he is quite good at flying. Not as good as Anakin.

Why are there two threads on this?
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=492031

Why are there two threads on this?
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=492031
Posted by the smae person as well.

Name: Wedge Antilles
Height: 1.7m
Gender: Male
Hair color: Brown
Eye color: Brown
Homeworld: Corellia
Date of birth: 21 BBY

Posted by the smae person as well.

Because i want to. One is about a favourite Star Wars character and this one is about Star Wars in general. Sorry if I have upset you.

Prequel Obi-wan could kick Wedge's lame, non-Jedi ass in a dogfight, easy.

Prequel Obi-wan could kick Wedge's lame, non-Jedi ass in a dogfight, easy.

I dunno...I would say it actually depends on a number of factors. You know, types of ships, overall health of both, what else is going on, etc. Also, I would say that Wedge is the better pilot between the two, but Obi-wan's force awareness gives him an unfair advantage. But prequel Obi-wan sucks anyway. He's just a somewhat annoying random Jedi. Kind of Powerful. I actually much prefer crazy old "Ben Kenobi" of Episode IV. He is much cooler.

I dunno...I would say it actually depends on a number of factors. You know, types of ships, overall health of both, what else is going on, etc. Also, I would say that Wedge is the better pilot between the two, but Obi-wan's force awareness gives him an unfair advantage. But prequel Obi-wan sucks anyway. He's just a somewhat annoying random Jedi. Kind of Powerful. I actually much prefer crazy old "Ben Kenobi" of Episode IV. He is much cooler.

No way! Obi-Wan was one of the best pilots of the Clone Wars, and became a household name across the Galaxy. At the height of his power he was one of the top Jedi, mastering two different forms of saber combat.
Antilles? The big lamer bugged out early in the Death Star trench.

Wedge is probably one of the greatest non-Force sensitive pilots...btw, anybody else a fan of the Eclipse (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Eclipse-class_Star_Destroyer1.jpg)-class Super Star Destroyer?

I'm going to have to go with Corran Horn. A force sensitive (his grandfather was a Jedi) and an excellent X-Wing pilot. He may not have as much experience as Wedge, or be as powerful as Obi Wan (yet), but he's awesome in his own right. As an added note, he's Corellian too.

No way! Obi-Wan was one of the best pilots of the Clone Wars, and became a household name across the Galaxy. At the height of his power he was one of the top Jedi, mastering two different forms of saber combat.
Antilles? The big lamer bugged out early in the Death Star trench.

Obi-Wan certainly didn't show it in RoTS (as I seem to recall, his fighter damaged so bad during that space battle, he had to land on the Separatist ship). He did survive the battle against Jango Fett in AoTC, but only by pretending his ship was destroyed.

IIRC, Wedge was ordered out of the trench by Luke. One thing I'd like to remind you of, is Wedge survived the second Death Star run as well.

I like Sailor Mars...

I like Sailor Mars...

GET. OUT.

GET. OUT.

NO! YOU GET. OUT.!!! :eek:

No way! Obi-Wan was one of the best pilots of the Clone Wars, and became a household name across the Galaxy. At the height of his power he was one of the top Jedi, mastering two different forms of saber combat.
Antilles? The big lamer bugged out early in the Death Star trench.


Look, Obi-wan was indeed a very good pilot. But remember, that later, in Wedge's time, he was a bigger householdf name than Obi-wan. EVERYONE knew who Wedge was after Return of the Jedi. Wedge's name has lasted much longer than Obi-wan's ever did.

In relation to Obi-wan's Jedi goodness- His skill as a Jedi does not necessarily correlate with his skill as a pilot. Just because he has many skills in certain areas does not mean he has skills in all areas. And just because he was good with his saber does not mean he was good as a pilot. And Antilles bugged out because he realised something: if he didn't he would DIE. If he was dead, he couldn't help his cause any more, and his death would not have helped luke, other than giving him less time than he needed. So, his death would have been useless. Smart move, I think.

Look, Obi-wan was indeed a very good pilot. But remember, that later, in Wedge's time, he was a bigger householdf name than Obi-wan. EVERYONE knew who Wedge was after Return of the Jedi. Wedge's name has lasted much longer than Obi-wan's ever did.

In relation to Obi-wan's Jedi goodness- His skill as a Jedi does not necessarily correlate with his skill as a pilot. Just because he has many skills in certain areas does not mean he has skills in all areas. And just because he was good with his saber does not mean he was good as a pilot. And Antilles bugged out because he realised something: if he didn't he would DIE. If he was dead, he couldn't help his cause any more, and his death would not have helped luke, other than giving him less time than he needed. So, his death would have been useless. Smart move, I think.

Antilles left because he was ordered to.
Again, relating to his Jediness, just because he's a good Jedi doesn't mean he's a crap pilot. And as for fame, the Jedi were the subject of a campaign of purging and propaganda. The Empire would have made it their job to slur the good names of the Jedi.

I don't understand why Boba Fett isn't automatically considered the best most greatest Star Wars anti-hero ever? I mean, the man is a walking death machine. And he gives Jedi quite a run for their money, considering he's completely without force ability. He's the MAN!!

Antilles left because he was ordered to.
Again, relating to his Jediness, just because he's a good Jedi doesn't mean he's a crap pilot. And as for fame, the Jedi were the subject of a campaign of purging and propaganda. The Empire would have made it their job to slur the good names of the Jedi.

Yes, I had forgotten that Antilles was ordered out. And I agree with your point about the Jedi thing. But it has no bearing on how good a pilot Obi-wan was, except, perhaps, giving him an advantage in terms o knowing the Force. And while I agree that the Empire did cause Obi-wan's name to be nearly obliterated, it is nevertheless my considered belief that, if the Empire had not purged the Jedi and records of them, Wedge would still have been the more famous as a pilot, perhaps due to his not being a Jedi.

Regardless, in having seen all the movies, and read many of the post-Return books, it is my belief that Wedge Anilles was a better pilot and tactician than Obi-wan Kenobi, and would have been the more famous.

I don't understand why Boba Fett isn't automatically considered the best most greatest Star Wars anti-hero ever? I mean, the man is a walking death machine. And he gives Jedi quite a run for their money, considering he's completely without force ability. He's the MAN!! :sniper:

Ok i'll admit Boba Fett does totaly kick arse, but he kind of has it all against the jedi because they did kill his father. The only thing I don'tlike is that he reminds me of inspector gaget; he has EVERYTHING he needs like all over his body.

The Fettmiseter:http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.culttvman.com/assets/images-CULT_FIGS_2005/MYB_Fett_Front_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.culttvman.com/mark_yungblut_s_boba_fett.html&h=800&w=600&sz=61&hl=en&start=16&tbnid=ljNNHM7YRc1TOM:&tbnh=143&tbnw=107&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dboba%2Bfett%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26rls%3DGGLR,GGLR:2005-36,GGLR:en%26sa%3DN

I don't understand why Boba Fett isn't automatically considered the best most greatest Star Wars anti-hero ever? I mean, the man is a walking death machine. And he gives Jedi quite a run for their money, considering he's completely without force ability. He's the MAN!! :sniper:

From what I've seen in the movies, Boba Fett doesn't impress me much (he seems more lucky than good). He may be a good tracker, but the other skills he displayed aren't special. Also, IMO it was pretty lame how he got taken out in RoTJ. Yes, I do know that in an expanded universe book, he escapes the sarlacc, but the fact that he ended up in the sarlacc in the first place tells me he's not the best bounty hunter out there.

I'll bring up the blaspheme that is the Star Wars books (for some fans) and say that my favorite character in all the books and movies is probably Vergere. None of the other characters has a brain of their own as far as I can tell.

Has anybody read the latest large series that they're releasing right now? It almost seems as if they are talking about modern politics throughout most of the latest book.

Oh..what have you done??

I usually manage to keep my inner SW nerdness in check...but here you go making threads in General....

Wadda ya do?

I could rant about what is and what is not "Canon", and I could go on about how cool, or lame a given character is, but I will say that few characters were as cool as Yoda.

Yoda is an apostle.

He should have his own gospel.

"Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter (flesh)."

"Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny."

"Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering."

and of course, "Do or do not, there is no try".

Thats so much more inspiring and straightforwards than any of the other religions.

However....

For the record...

Jar-Jar Binks sucks ass.

As do Ewoks...

and WHO THE FUCK WOULD FALL FOR A PSYCHOPATH, WHINING
MURDERING DOUCHEBAG LIKE ANAKIN ANYWAYS??!!!

The rest.....best fantasy/sci-fi ever....

From what I've seen in the movies, Boba Fett doesn't impress me much (he seems more lucky than good). He may be a good tracker, but the other skills he displayed aren't special. Also, IMO it was pretty lame how he got taken out in RoTJ. Yes, I do know that in an expanded universe book, he escapes the sarlacc, but the fact that he ended up in the sarlacc in the first place tells me he's not the best bounty hunter out there.


Boba Fett is implied bad-assery.

We dont need to see much action from him, because we automatically assume hes the meanest thing walking around.

We all know how sneaky and resourceful Han Solo can be, and Fett nabbed him without much of a fight.
Its also the level of cool he maintains as well.
Not to mention cool toys.

For instance, that braid he wears on his shoulder?

Wookie hide.

Gotta be tough to kill them wookies.

Boba Fett is implied bad-assery.

We dont need to see much action from him, because we automatically assume hes the meanest thing walking around.

We all know how sneaky and resourceful Han Solo can be, and Fett nabbed him without much of a fight.
Its also the level of cool he maintains as well.
Not to mention cool toys.

For instance, that braid he wears on his shoulder?

Wookie hide.

Gotta be tough to kill them wookies.

All you need to collect wookie hides is some kid of blaster.

All you need to collect wookie hides is some kid of blaster.


and the balls to hunt one.

Wookies arent stupid.

Theyre probably armed as well.

and the balls to hunt one.

Wookies arent stupid.

Theyre probably armed as well.

Wookies are idiots. A steady hand is all that's required, and Boba seems to have a steady hand. Not to mention his incredible advantage: a million incredibly cool gadgets.

URR UUR ARGH!

Does anyone feel that Palpatine is the same as George W. Bush. This was shown clearly, and I assume unitentionally, in Episode 3 where it shows how evil George W. Bush really is (through Palpatine). I feel we are heading towards fascism and I'm scared for minorities. :(

Boba Fett is implied bad-assery.

We dont need to see much action from him, because we automatically assume hes the meanest thing walking around.

We all know how sneaky and resourceful Han Solo can be, and Fett nabbed him without much of a fight.
Its also the level of cool he maintains as well.
Not to mention cool toys.

For instance, that braid he wears on his shoulder?

Wookie hide.

Gotta be tough to kill them wookies.


Sorry, I don't buy it. And if you want to get technical, Boba Fett only told the empire where Han, Leia, and Chewbacca were going. There was an awful lot of stormtroopers there when they were captured (not to mention, Darth Vader using the force to deflect Han's shots, then taking his blaster away from him).

Personally, I think Boba Fett was quivering in his Mandalorian armor whenever he was talking to Vader, and I think Vader is the biggest bad-ass in the movies.

Palpatine.

Drips with evil. Is cunning, malicious, intelligent and can hold his own in a fight: everything a good villain needs.

Frankly, with all the respect I have for the man, Darth Vader is, in the end, little more than Palpatine's bitch...

Bolols got it right, you can't beat the lord of the sith. Unless your a sneaky traitorus bitch like Vader

Palpatine.

Drips with evil. Is cunning, malicious, intelligent and can hold his own in a fight: everything a good villain needs.

Frankly, with all the respect I have for the man, Darth Vader is, in the end, little more than Palpatine's bitch...

I have to disagree. If Palpatine was as cunning, malicious, and intelligent as you say, wouldn't he have been able to see Vader's betrayal coming? In the end, Palpatines tunnel vision cost him his life.

I have to disagree. If Palpatine was as cunning, malicious, and intelligent as you say, wouldn't he have been able to see Vader's betrayal coming? In the end, Palpatines tunnel vision cost him his life.

Aye...but he had the foresight to construct a cloning lab and run off copies of himself again and again like he had a gift-card from Staples.

The Emperor is the best character.

And Sailor Mercury: yum yum.

And Sailor Mercury: yum yum.

This is not an anime thread!!!

Though I absolutely agree with you, babetastic.

Wookies are idiots. A steady hand is all that's required, and Boba seems to have a steady hand. Not to mention his incredible advantage: a million incredibly cool gadgets.

URR UUR ARGH!

I don't know about that; Wookies tend to be pretty badass and surprisingly cunning.

The big thing though is that Fett was the only guy in the entire trilogy who ever talked smack to Vader and didn't get a beat-down for his trouble. The obvious implication is that he's supremely talented, because absolutely nobody could be so profoundly stupid as to think "Hey, I just got out of stormtrooper school. I think I'll talk back to the Dark Lord of the Sith!"

I don't know about that; Wookies tend to be pretty badass and surprisingly cunning.

The big thing though is that Fett was the only guy in the entire trilogy who ever talked smack to Vader and didn't get a beat-down for his trouble. "


Exactly.

Not only that, But Vader aquiesced to his demands.

"The Empire will compensate you if he dies."

Vader could have simply said.."What..you want a little?"
and just choked Boba out...he didnt.

Mara Jade.
No competition.