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Musical Thread!

Terrorist Cakes
15-07-2006, 21:01
I'm going to reveal my true colours as a Drama Geek, and suggest we devote a thread to Musical Theatre. I don't want to make it too specific, since that'll probably ensure it's instant death. So, have a favourite musical? Think a musical is over-rated? Enjoy acting in musicals? Remember, at moments of emotional intensity, when nothing else can express you, don't be afraid to sing!
I'll start:
-My favourite musical is Phantom (feel free to pelt me with rotten fruit)
-My least favourite musical is Annie (don't feel free to sing Tomorrow)
-I act in plenty of musicals. My past credits include chorus roles in Fiddler on the Roof Junior, Bye Bye Birdie, Seussical, and Cinderella; I'm currently rehersing to appear as Fruma Sarah in Fiddler on the Roof; and this fall I will be Mrs. Pearce in My Fair Lady.
- I have never been able to play the engenue role in a musical, and have always been the musical's most notorious character actor, and the fact that twinky girls with pop star voices are always chosen over a classically trained singer, who the director apparently thinks has the best voice, for the lead role often provokes me to throw things. If my voice is that great, why wouldn't I be Eliza? Mrs. Pearce only sings three lines!
The Supreme Galaxy
15-07-2006, 21:15
My favorite musical is Wicked with Les Miserables a close second. Least favorite (of the popular titles) is Cats. I have no singing ability so I have never been in anything unless you count the 8th grade Spring Musical whose name clearly escapes me 20 years later. :D
Poliwanacraca
15-07-2006, 21:16
I'm going to reveal my true colours as a Drama Geek, and suggest we devote a thread to Musical Theatre. I don't want to make it too specific, since that'll probably ensure it's instant death. So, have a favourite musical? Think a musical is over-rated? Enjoy acting in musicals? Remember, at moments of emotional intensity, when nothing else can express you, don't be afraid to sing!
I'll start:
-My favourite musical is Phantom (feel free to pelt me with rotten fruit)
-My least favourite musical is Annie (don't feel free to sing Tomorrow)
-I act in plenty of musicals. My past credits include chorus roles in Fiddler on the Roof Junior, Bye Bye Birdie, Seussical, and Cinderella; I'm currently rehersing to appear as Fruma Sarah in Fiddler on the Roof; and this fall I will be Mrs. Pearce in My Fair Lady.
- I have never been able to play the engenue role in a musical, and have always been the musical's most notorious character actor, and the fact that twinky girls with pop star voices are always chosen over a classically trained singer, who the director apparently thinks has the best voice, for the lead role often provokes me to throw things. If my voice is that great, why wouldn't I be Eliza? Mrs. Pearce only sings three lines!

Fellow character actress over here. *waves* I've played ingenue parts a few times, but I find them pretty boring, as a general rule. Second comic leads are much more fun. :)

Anyway, I'm an ex-musical-theatre-junkie who still probably knows all the songs from several dozen shows by heart. I haven't had the chance to actually do a full show since college, sadly, but sooner or later I hope to get back into theatre.

As for favorite musicals of all time, that honor would probably have to go to "Sweeney Todd." Sondheim r0x0rs my s0x0rs. :)
Ieuano
15-07-2006, 21:16
Cats is good, then againg, its the only one ive watched, am missing out on anything?
Poliwanacraca
15-07-2006, 21:21
Cats is good, then againg, its the only one ive watched, am missing out on anything?

Yes. :p
Ieuano
15-07-2006, 21:21
well then ill find out what people think is the best one, then rent i will it
The Supreme Galaxy
15-07-2006, 21:23
well then ill find out what people think is the best one, then rent i will it

But everyone's tastes are different. After all, you said you like Cats and I wish I had that 3 hours of my life back. :p
Terrorist Cakes
15-07-2006, 21:25
Fellow character actress over here. *waves* I've played ingenue parts a few times, but I find them pretty boring, as a general rule. Second comic leads are much more fun. :)

Anyway, I'm an ex-musical-theatre-junkie who still probably knows all the songs from several dozen shows by heart. I haven't had the chance to actually do a full show since college, sadly, but sooner or later I hope to get back into theatre.

As for favorite musicals of all time, that honor would probably have to go to "Sweeney Todd." Sondheim r0x0rs my s0x0rs. :)

Well, I guess it is more fun to be a comic character. During Cinderella, I was lucky to be on stage hamming it up as "Grandmother," while our Cinderella puked in the bathroom. But it was still Cinderella's voice everyone raved about. Plus, Eliza Doolittle is different. She's not just another doe-eyed idiot; she has spunk, and character, and determination. The only reason I can see for the girl who got the part to get it is that she's prettier than I am. It's so annoying to go all your life wanting to be Christine Daae, and having people tell you that you'd be a perfect Carlotta, while the girl without any singing training would get the honour of Christine. Why? Why? Why?

Note: Sorry to all for my over-reactions. I had to go through audition after audition after audition just to NOT get the lead in MFL (I came as close to the role as you can come without getting it), and my wounds are still a little tender.
The Supreme Galaxy
15-07-2006, 21:29
Well, I guess it is more fun to be a comic character. During Cinderella, I was lucky to be on stage hamming it up as "Grandmother," while our Cinderella puked in the bathroom. But it was still Cinderella's voice everyone raved about. Plus, Eliza Doolittle is different. She's not just another doe-eyed idiot; she has spunk, and character, and determination. The only reason I can see for the girl who got the part to get it is that she's prettier than I am. It's so annoying to go all your life wanting to be Christine Daae, and having people tell you that you'd be a perfect Carlotta, while the girl without any singing training would get the honour of Christine. Why? Why? Why?

Note: Sorry to all for my over-reactions. I had to go through audition after audition after audition just to NOT get the lead in MFL (I came as close to the role as you can come without getting it), and my wounds are still a little tender.

Isn't being told that you'd be the perfect Carlotta a bit of an insult really? Shame on them for not recognizing talent. Have you seen Wicked? At least there the so-called pretty role is not the lead role. And Elphaba rocks like no one else!
Terrorist Cakes
15-07-2006, 21:30
well then ill find out what people think is the best one, then rent i will it

See one on stage. That's even better. But if you're going to rent, you've got lot's more options, I guess. Personally, I love Phantom, because I've got the right voice type to sing along, but Rent is also a great one just to watch. It really depends on the type of musical you like; an operetta, like Pirates of Penzance or HMS Pinafore? A classic musical like Fiddler or Sound of Music? An upbeat musical like Grease or Bye Bye Birdie?
The Supreme Galaxy
15-07-2006, 21:32
See one on stage. That's even better. But if you're going to rent, you've got lot's more options, I guess. Personally, I love Phantom, because I've got the right voice type to sing along, but Rent is also a great one just to watch. It really depends on the type of musical you like; an operetta, like Pirates of Penzance or HMS Pinafore? A classic musical like Fiddler or Sound of Music? An upbeat musical like Grease or Bye Bye Birdie?

Agreed. Even though I had listened to Wicked and Les Mis thousands of times on CD, absolutely nothing compared to seeing them in person.
Ieuano
15-07-2006, 21:32
hmm, ill think about it, i also watched the Producers in the cinema, it was quite good
Poliwanacraca
15-07-2006, 21:35
Well, I guess it is more fun to be a comic character. During Cinderella, I was lucky to be on stage hamming it up as "Grandmother," while our Cinderella puked in the bathroom. But it was still Cinderella's voice everyone raved about. Plus, Eliza Doolittle is different. She's not just another doe-eyed idiot; she has spunk, and character, and determination. The only reason I can see for the girl who got the part to get it is that she's prettier than I am. It's so annoying to go all your life wanting to be Christine Daae, and having people tell you that you'd be a perfect Carlotta, while the girl without any singing training would get the honour of Christine. Why? Why? Why?

Note: Sorry to all for my over-reactions. I had to go through audition after audition after audition just to NOT get the lead in MFL (I came as close to the role as you can come without getting it), and my wounds are still a little tender.

Heh. I know the feeling, actually. Are you acquainted with the show "Once Upon a Mattress"? I got booted out of playing Fred in high school on the grounds that there was another girl who could do Fred (who also happened to be quite a lot cuter than teenaged-Poliwanacraca was - ah, the joys of acne and braces!), whereas I was the only person in the cast who could pull off the Nightingale's song. I grumbled for weeks. :p

As for Carlotta versus Christine, I actually think Carlotta is probably the more fun one to perform (crazy bitchy self-absorbed people = always a good time for actors), and I suspect a good deal of why people think of you as a Carlotta type is simply your classical training, which you mentioned. Silly people think having extensive classical training means that one can't sing like someone who hasn't had extensive classical training.
Gronde
15-07-2006, 21:38
I have a soft spot for British musicals, myself. I performed in Me and My Girl as a lead. Good stuff. Fiddler on the Roof is quite good, too. As for overrated musical? The Sound of Music. I never liked it. A bunch of my friends swear by RENT... I think it's ok, but there are better musicals in my oppinion.
Intangelon
15-07-2006, 21:39
Well, I guess it is more fun to be a comic character. During Cinderella, I was lucky to be on stage hamming it up as "Grandmother," while our Cinderella puked in the bathroom. But it was still Cinderella's voice everyone raved about. Plus, Eliza Doolittle is different. She's not just another doe-eyed idiot; she has spunk, and character, and determination. The only reason I can see for the girl who got the part to get it is that she's prettier than I am. It's so annoying to go all your life wanting to be Christine Daae, and having people tell you that you'd be a perfect Carlotta, while the girl without any singing training would get the honour of Christine. Why? Why? Why?

Note: Sorry to all for my over-reactions. I had to go through audition after audition after audition just to NOT get the lead in MFL (I came as close to the role as you can come without getting it), and my wounds are still a little tender.

Well, the University of Mary (my college), just put on MFL, and the woman with the best voice for the part and best acting chops for the role won the role. Period. She's not what you'd call the media ideal of thinness and beauty, and she aced that role. Of course, I was part of the casting process, and made sure my views were heard. The director made the decision, and chose wisely. Not all directors are wise.

Once you're out of high school, things will change somewhat. "Pretty" still matters, but not quite so much. Keep polishing your skills, learning monologues and songs. The more you can do, the more likely you are to work, and work consistently. "Pretty" fades. A character is forever.
Gravlen
15-07-2006, 21:40
So, have a favourite musical? Think a musical is over-rated? Enjoy acting in musicals? Remember, at moments of emotional intensity, when nothing else can express you, don't be afraid to sing!
I'll start:
-My favourite musical is Phantom (feel free to pelt me with rotten fruit)
*Pelts Terrorist Cakes with fruit for good measure*

Yup, I have a favourite: That's the Phantom :) I like the music and the gothic theme... And it's one of the few musicals I've been fortunate enough to see live on stage - a very good performance in London.

I also liked Cabaret, when I saw it on the stage - they did a spectacular version of "Tomorrow belongs to me" that sent chills through me. ;)

And does The Producers count as a real musical? That one was fun! :p
Terrorist Cakes
15-07-2006, 21:40
Isn't being told that you'd be the perfect Carlotta a bit of an insult really? Shame on them for not recognizing talent. Have you seen Wicked? At least there the so-called pretty role is not the lead role. And Elphaba rocks like no one else!

No, I haven't seen wicked; I don't exactly live in a very central place for musical theatre. I'm going to see Phantom on stage for the first time in a month, and it'll be my first real professional musical.
And, yes, being called the perfect Carlotta is a bit of an insult, but it can't be worse than being told that the role I was born to play is Fruma Sarah, a dead woman who howls and screams alot.
The Supreme Galaxy
15-07-2006, 21:46
No, I haven't seen wicked; I don't exactly live in a very central place for musical theatre. I'm going to see Phantom on stage for the first time in a month, and it'll be my first real professional musical.
And, yes, being called the perfect Carlotta is a bit of an insult, but it can't be worse than being told that the role I was born to play is Fruma Sarah, a dead woman who howls and screams alot.

Well howling and screaming a lot would still be a slight bit better than a non-speaking corpse role, wouldn't you say?

Pittsburgh isn't the best place in the world for theater, but it is a slight improvement over some areas. We at least are fortunate enough to get most of the touring companies through every once in a great while. This year actually is going to be one of the better years with a number of good shows (Spamalot, Rent, Light in the Piazza, 25th Annual Putnam County Spelling Bee) and one lousy show IMO (Altar Boyz). Now's when I miss working for the bank that sponsors the Broadway series and I could get a 20% discount on tickets. :D
Terrorist Cakes
15-07-2006, 21:47
Heh. I know the feeling, actually. Are you acquainted with the show "Once Upon a Mattress"? I got booted out of playing Fred in high school on the grounds that there was another girl who could do Fred (who also happened to be quite a lot cuter than teenaged-Poliwanacraca was - ah, the joys of acne and braces!), whereas I was the only person in the cast who could pull off the Nightingale's song. I grumbled for weeks. :p

As for Carlotta versus Christine, I actually think Carlotta is probably the more fun one to perform (crazy bitchy self-absorbed people = always a good time for actors), and I suspect a good deal of why people think of you as a Carlotta type is simply your classical training, which you mentioned. Silly people think having extensive classical training means that one can't sing like someone who hasn't had extensive classical training.

Well, I actually prefer singing in a classical voice (belting is not my strong suit), but I think Christine has to have a pretty nice voice, too. She's suppossed to be a combination of pop and classical; I have a tendancy to go a bit too classical (I struggle with the title number), while others have a tendancy to go alot too pop. I know which one I'd rather see in the musical, especially considering it's set in an opera house (and the nasalness of pop singers drives me up the wall).
The acting for Carlotta would probably be more entertaining, of course, since Christine is a ditz. But I just love all the songs of Christine, when she soars to those high notes, and wears those gorgeous costumes. I've played an old woman about six times in a row now; I'm ready to play just one pretty girl role.
Poliwanacraca
15-07-2006, 21:47
...but it can't be worse than being told that the role I was born to play is Fruma Sarah, a dead woman who howls and screams alot.

*snerk* Well, she is pretty funny in between howling and screaming, but that's still rather bad.

If it makes you feel better, while in high school I was cast as a prostitute in three different shows and a sweet little old lady in five. That's simply got to be the most bizarre dual-typecasting ever. :p
Terrorist Cakes
15-07-2006, 21:48
Well howling and screaming a lot would still be a slight bit better than a non-speaking corpse role, wouldn't you say

Yeah, but my voice is taking a pounding.
Intangelon
15-07-2006, 21:50
As for my favorites, I will risk being ostracized and opine that Andrew Lloyd Webber sucks donkey balls. I've seen Jesus Christ Superstar, Cats, Phantom, Dreamcoat, and they all are so completely trite that I can't stand it. Les Miserables is tolerable.

I prefer Stephen Sondheim. Into the Woods, Company, Sunday in the Park with George, Assassins, Sweeny Todd, and so forth.

Others I've enjoyed include The Producers, Batboy, Little Shop of Horrors, The Fantasticks, The Music Man, Urinetown, Avenue Q, The 1940s Radio Hour, The Robber Bridegroom, Pippin, and Hair.

Others I'd sooner take a cheese grater to my penis than see again:
Rent, Forever Plaid, Carousel, Brigadoon, The Boys from Syracuse, and Bye Bye Birdie.

My Fair Lady only escapes the list because of the excellent music and lyrics. The ending is absolutely sickening.
Terrorist Cakes
15-07-2006, 21:50
*snerk* Well, she is pretty funny in between howling and screaming, but that's still rather bad.

If it makes you feel better, while in high school I was cast as a prostitute in three different shows and a sweet little old lady in five. That's simply got to be the most bizarre dual-typecasting ever. :p

Ever been a sweet, little-old lady prostitute?
Dinaverg
15-07-2006, 21:52
*sips juice box* I do Tech. (stage crew)
The Supreme Galaxy
15-07-2006, 21:55
As for my favorites, I will risk being ostracized and opine that Andrew Lloyd Webber sucks donkey balls. I've seen Jesus Christ Superstar, Cats, Phantom, Dreamcoat, and they all are so completely trite that I can't stand it. Les Miserables is tolerable.

I prefer Stephen Sondheim. Into the Woods, Company, Sunday in the Park with George, Assassins, Sweeny Todd, and so forth.

Others I've enjoyed include The Producers, Batboy, Little Shop of Horrors, The Fantasticks, The Music Man, Urinetown, Avenue Q, The 1940s Radio Hour, The Robber Bridegroom, Pippin, and Hair.

Others I'd sooner take a cheese grater to my penis than see again:
Rent, Forever Plaid, Carousel, Brigadoon, The Boys from Syracuse, and Bye Bye Birdie.

My Fair Lady only escapes the list because of the excellent music and lyrics. The ending is absolutely sickening.

Well, you have company in that I don't think very highly of Webber. Phantom and Evita are passing tolerable but JCS, Dreamcoat, and as previously stated Cats are just wretched. Also, need I mention Starlight Express?
But, on the other hand, no musical no matter how sucky it is, is worth taking a cheese grater to my penis. :D
Poliwanacraca
15-07-2006, 21:56
Well, I actually prefer singing in a classical voice (belting is not my strong suit), but I think Christine has to have a pretty nice voice, too. She's suppossed to be a combination of pop and classical; I have a tendancy to go a bit too classical (I struggle with the title number), while others have a tendancy to go alot too pop. I know which one I'd rather see in the musical, especially considering it's set in an opera house (and the nasalness of pop singers drives me up the wall).
The acting for Carlotta would probably be more entertaining, of course, since Christine is a ditz. But I just love all the songs of Christine, when she soars to those high notes, and wears those gorgeous costumes. I've played an old woman about six times in a row now; I'm ready to play just one pretty girl role.

Oh heavens yes, Christine has to have "a pretty nice voice," to say the least. She just doesn't have to sound too, too well-trained, since she supposedly didn't really know what she was doing until the Phantom started hiding behind her mirror. Carlotta, on the other hand, has to sound like a trained professional, which is very difficult for someone without training to fake.

Christine does have yummy songs. Oddly enough, I'm actually more of a fan of the rather simple number "Wishing You Were Somehow Here Again" than her more elaborate songs, but they're all fun. However, it should be noted that Carlotta's part in "Prima Donna" is one of the most vocally demanding performances in the show, so don't take it as too much of an insult when people think you'd kick ass at it. :)
The Supreme Galaxy
15-07-2006, 21:56
Ever been a sweet, little-old lady prostitute?

No I've never been with a sweet, little-old lady prostitute. I prefer mine a little bit (but not too much) younger. ;)
Terrorist Cakes
15-07-2006, 21:57
*sips juice box* I do Tech. (stage crew)

You're one of those? You're one of the people responsible for tech rehersals being twelve hours long, and excrutiantingly boring? You're one of the people who hates being in the spot light, and yet still complains about not recieving enough glory? You're one of the people that gets free flowers and pizza from the director? *shakes fist*
Countercheck
15-07-2006, 22:00
Eh, the producers is only really funny if you know a lot about musicals =P

I haven't been in as many musicals as I'd like and seem to be shifting to normal plays instead, due to an unspectacular (but not unpleasant) voice and a lack of dancing ability. Which is odd, since I'm quite a decent swing-dancer, just not so good at remembering choreography. But I have been in The Wiz (second best play I've ever been in; songs are lousy, script is worse, but we ROCKED it), Bye Bye Birdie (got dragged into that kicking and screaming as an extra because I hated the director), stage managed Man of Steel (Australian musical about Superman... please don't ask... it involved flying a 8 foot long paper mache Superman across the stage... but the techs were incompetent and rigged it so he actually backed out from the wings, turned around, and flew across the stage... and the curtains never completely covered him so his feet stuck out from behind the curtain), was Charlie Brown in You're a Good Man Charlie Brown, Levi in Joseph (or one of the other brothers... I got to sing Those Caenen Days, and that's all that matters), and got to tour with Snowsuits Birthdays and Giants, which is a WICKED musical by Robert Munch that I suggest you all look into. Currently, I'm working at a musical theatre summer camp.

Currently, my favorite musical is Shoggoth On The Roof, an HP Lovecraft inspired rip-off of Fiddler that is absolutely BRILLIANT! And it really exists.

"Who day and night must slumber in R'lyeh, waving tentacles, dreaming nasty dreams
And who has the might as master of R'lyeh, to drive humanity insane?
CTHULHUUUUUUUU! Cthulhu! TENTACLES!
CTHULHUUUUUUUU! Cthulhu! TENTACLES!"

But seriously, I'd need to go with a three-way tie between Guys and Dolls, How To Succeed In Business Without Really Trying, and Little Shop of Horrors. All of them have bright, brilliant music and hilarious lyrics and dialogue. Love Frank Loesser. After that comes a range of Sondheim ones, I think, mainly Funny Thing, though JCS also has a special place in my heart. And Chess, though truly horrid, is great because it's about CHESS and the COLD WAR!

Least favorite would probably include a whole slew of Weber and Sondheim. And the new Lord of the Rings musical, which was just dreadful. And Small Time Crooks, which the audiences and critics seemed to love, but which to me was simply a vehicle for vulgarity. And I'm no prude... I laughed myself sick at The Producers and Avenue Q, and cannot wait for Spamalot.
Poliwanacraca
15-07-2006, 22:00
Ever been a sweet, little-old lady prostitute?

Not yet, but I'm sure it's bound to happen sooner or later. :p
Terrorist Cakes
15-07-2006, 22:00
Oh heavens yes, Christine has to have "a pretty nice voice," to say the least. She just doesn't have to sound too, too well-trained, since she supposedly didn't really know what she was doing until the Phantom started hiding behind her mirror. Carlotta, on the other hand, has to sound like a trained professional, which is very difficult for someone without training to fake.

Christine does have yummy songs. Oddly enough, I'm actually more of a fan of the rather simple number "Wishing You Were Somehow Here Again" than her more elaborate songs, but they're all fun. However, it should be noted that Carlotta's part in "Prima Donna" is one of the most vocally demanding performances in the show, so don't take it as too much of an insult when people think you'd kick ass at it. :)

It is a bit disconcerting that people think that I could play a coluratura. I'm far, far from that. I'm closer to Wagnerian, I'm sure. (Okay, I'm not sure, but I know I can't do those fancy trill things). The insult of the situation isn't being told that I could kick butt at singing a vocally demanding role, but rather being told that I could kick butt at playing a person that nobody really thinks is very talented. People plug their ears for Carlotta, and throw themselves over cliffs for Christine.
Dinaverg
15-07-2006, 22:01
You're one of those? You're one of the people responsible for tech rehersals being twelve hours long, and excrutiantingly boring? You're one of the people who hates being in the spot light, and yet still complains about not recieving enough glory? You're one of the people that gets free flowers and pizza from the director? *shakes fist*

Nah. I just like using power tools and pushing things. *sip*
Poliwanacraca
15-07-2006, 22:03
As for my favorites, I will risk being ostracized and opine that Andrew Lloyd Webber sucks donkey balls. I've seen Jesus Christ Superstar, Cats, Phantom, Dreamcoat, and they all are so completely trite that I can't stand it. Les Miserables is tolerable.

I prefer Stephen Sondheim. Into the Woods, Company, Sunday in the Park with George, Assassins, Sweeny Todd, and so forth.

Others I've enjoyed include The Producers, Batboy, Little Shop of Horrors, The Fantasticks, The Music Man, Urinetown, Avenue Q, The 1940s Radio Hour, The Robber Bridegroom, Pippin, and Hair.

Others I'd sooner take a cheese grater to my penis than see again:
Rent, Forever Plaid, Carousel, Brigadoon, The Boys from Syracuse, and Bye Bye Birdie.

My Fair Lady only escapes the list because of the excellent music and lyrics. The ending is absolutely sickening.

I prefer Sondheim to Lloyd Weber any day of the week, but I give A.L.W. credit - he's good at what he does, which is fairly simple, aggressively tonal, rather pretty songs. Sondheim, on the other hand, is just utterly brilliant in every way. :)

Oh, and I'm glad to hear someone else mention "Little Shop." I have a great and abiding affection for that show, even though it has rotten associations for me now.
Terrorist Cakes
15-07-2006, 22:04
Nah. I just like using power tools and pushing things. *sip*

Oh! Set construction is different. It's the lighting and sound guys that are irritating.
The Supreme Galaxy
15-07-2006, 22:07
It is a bit disconcerting that people think that I could play a coluratura. I'm far, far from that. I'm closer to Wagnerian, I'm sure. (Okay, I'm not sure, but I know I can't do those fancy trill things). The insult of the situation isn't being told that I could kick butt at singing a vocally demanding role, but rather being told that I could kick butt at playing a person that nobody really thinks is very talented. People plug their ears for Carlotta, and throw themselves over cliffs for Christine.

Well, if it's any consolation, I'd neither plug my ears for Carlotta nor throw myselfover a cliff for Christine. Now, for Elphie I'd probably set myself on fire so that people would throw water on me instead of her. ;)
Surf Shack
15-07-2006, 22:08
Umm, West Side Story!
Lol, probably not the best thread for me, come to think of it.
Poliwanacraca
15-07-2006, 22:09
You're one of those? You're one of the people responsible for tech rehersals being twelve hours long, and excrutiantingly boring? You're one of the people who hates being in the spot light, and yet still complains about not recieving enough glory? You're one of the people that gets free flowers and pizza from the director? *shakes fist*

:eek: If there's one thing I've learned throughout my time in the theatre, it's...

Never, ever, EVER piss off the techies!
Grape-eaters
15-07-2006, 22:10
Gods, I hate musicals. Don't ask me why. They just bug the hell outta me. Always hae.

I suppose I'm just not much of a one for watching a bunch of random people burst out into song and incredibly well-choreographed (or not) dance every so often.

Strangely enough, however, some of my best friends are incredible musical geeks.
New Age Astrology
15-07-2006, 22:11
I know nothing about musicals, however, if anyone would like to suggest some dark/haunting/mournful pieces (Phantom of the Opera style), I'd probably check em' out!
Dinaverg
15-07-2006, 22:13
:eek: If there's one thing I've learned throughout my time in the theatre, it's...

Never, ever, EVER piss off the techies!

We have drills, beware.
Terrorist Cakes
15-07-2006, 22:14
:eek: If there's one thing I've learned throughout my time in the theatre, it's...

Never, ever, EVER piss off the techies!

Yeah, but I can't help it. They get a bit too big for their britches, sometimes. If they wanted to be in the spotlight, they could have auditioned!
Dinaverg
15-07-2006, 22:15
Yeah, but I can't help it. They get a bit too big for their britches, sometimes. If they wanted to be in the spotlight, they could have auditioned!

Maybe if they got a bow or something.
Poliwanacraca
15-07-2006, 22:16
It is a bit disconcerting that people think that I could play a coluratura. I'm far, far from that. I'm closer to Wagnerian, I'm sure. (Okay, I'm not sure, but I know I can't do those fancy trill things). The insult of the situation isn't being told that I could kick butt at singing a vocally demanding role, but rather being told that I could kick butt at playing a person that nobody really thinks is very talented. People plug their ears for Carlotta, and throw themselves over cliffs for Christine.

Gotcha. Yeah, coloratura and Wagnerian are a wee bit different. :)

Incidentally, I always interpreted as Carlotta being quite talented, but just not having the OMG-magical-ethereal-ingenue-pretty-pretty-princess thing Christine's got goin' on. I mean, Andre and Firmin clearly prefer Carlotta to Christine. Presumably businessman-types are immune to the pretty pretty princess mystique. ;)
Gravlen
15-07-2006, 22:17
Currently, my favorite musical is Shoggoth On The Roof, an HP Lovecraft inspired rip-off of Fiddler that is absolutely BRILLIANT! And it really exists.

"Who day and night must slumber in R'lyeh, waving tentacles, dreaming nasty dreams
And who has the might as master of R'lyeh, to drive humanity insane?
CTHULHUUUUUUUU! Cthulhu! TENTACLES!
CTHULHUUUUUUUU! Cthulhu! TENTACLES!"
...

What the R'Lyeh? I'm scared now...
Poliwanacraca
15-07-2006, 22:18
We have drills, beware.

Hee. More worrying is when they have "Oh, gee. I seem to have forgotten to switch on your mike until halfway through your song. Go figure," not to mention the dreaded "Your props weren't on the table? I wonder how that happened?"
Terrorist Cakes
15-07-2006, 22:19
Maybe if they got a bow or something.

They do get a bow. And free pizza. And flowers.
Dinaverg
15-07-2006, 22:20
Hee. More worrying is when they have "Oh, gee. I seem to have forgotten to switch on your mike until halfway through your song. Go figure," not to mention the dreaded "Your props weren't on the table? I wonder how that happened?"

True. Or, perhaps pushing that colunm a little too far out into your on-stage path? That's serious right there.
Dinaverg
15-07-2006, 22:21
They do get a bow. And free pizza. And flowers.

Ah. Well, screw them then.
Sonaj
15-07-2006, 22:22
*Pelts rotten fruit on OP while singing "Tomorrow"*

I haven't seen too many, but Phantom is pretty good, I must say...
Terrorist Cakes
15-07-2006, 22:24
Gotcha. Yeah, coloratura and Wagnerian are a wee bit different. :)

Incidentally, I always interpreted as Carlotta being quite talented, but just not having the OMG-magical-ethereal-ingenue-pretty-pretty-princess thing Christine's got goin' on. I mean, Andre and Firmin clearly prefer Carlotta to Christine. Presumably businessman-types are immune to the pretty pretty princess mystique. ;)

I was being a bit sarcastic about the Wagnerian thing. I'm probably more like a Spinto-in-training, or something. My voice has a dark, full tone to it, but I can't go very loud unless it's significantly high. My middle C is barely a note at all.
Carlotta is talented, in a sense. But she's the kind of talented that people (the sweaty masses) don't like overmuch. She's like Puccini, and Christine is like Paris Hilton (ignore the gross exageration). I think we both know who is more talented, as well as whose music is more popular.
Poliwanacraca
15-07-2006, 22:24
I know nothing about musicals, however, if anyone would like to suggest some dark/haunting/mournful pieces (Phantom of the Opera style), I'd probably check em' out!

*cough*Sweeney Todd*cough*

(Okay, so that's not even remotely "Phantom of the Opera style," but it's got "dark/haunting/mournful" very, very, very thoroughly covered, especially the "dark" part. And it's really colossally amazingly good, in a deeply disturbing sort of way. I recommend the original cast recording about 10,000 times more than the current cast, though. Not that the current cast isn't good, but...yeah. Original cast. Trust me.)
Terrorist Cakes
15-07-2006, 22:25
Ah. Well, screw them then.

Ha! You wish....*snickers at dirty joke*
Terrorist Cakes
15-07-2006, 22:26
*Pelts rotten fruit on OP while singing "Tomorrow"*

I haven't seen too many, but Phantom is pretty good, I must say...

Gah! My ears!
Poliwanacraca
15-07-2006, 22:30
I was being a bit sarcastic about the Wagnerian thing. I'm probably more like a Spinto-in-training, or something. My voice has a dark, full tone to it, but I can't go very loud unless it's significantly high. My middle C is barely a note at all.
Carlotta is talented, in a sense. But she's the kind of talented that people (the sweaty masses) don't like overmuch. She's like Puccini, and Christine is like Paris Hilton (ignore the gross exageration). I think we both know who is more talented, as well as whose music is more popular.

*resists urge to make fun of sopranos who can't sing low notes* (*is proud alto/mezzo/thingie-with-crazy-range, not mean person*)

Heh. I like the exaggerated analogy. Anyway, though, I hope you get to play Christine someday and wear lots of floaty white dresses. She's actually on my secret guilty list of parts I'd kind of like to play just to show off, so I do understand the appeal. :)
Sonaj
15-07-2006, 22:32
Gah! My ears!
Victory is mine! /Stewie impersonation
Tricoloor
15-07-2006, 22:33
I'm gonna say, my favourite is Blood Brothers, tis quite a mix of comedy, music, and drama, and a lot of people who I went to see it with actually said they felt like crying, which is wierd because they aren't the sort of people who cry. I'd advise anyone with a taste for musicals, or if you don't, to come to the West End of London...best plays in the world...fact
Dinaverg
15-07-2006, 22:35
Ha! You wish....*snickers at dirty joke*

...*blinks* Do only I realize how utterly backwards this was?

(And, yes, I wish.)
Sonaj
15-07-2006, 22:36
...*blinks* Do only I realize how utterly backwards this was?

(And, yes, I wish.)
I...I think I get it. Don't I? *Puppy-dog eyes*
Dinaverg
15-07-2006, 22:41
I...I think I get it. Don't I? *Puppy-dog eyes*

I was talking TC innocently, and then she makes a dirty joke about something I said? That's....unusual.
Liammermoore
15-07-2006, 22:42
Ahhh musical theater...

My least favorite have to be anything by or similar to Gilbert and Sullivan.

Fave... Into The Woods- Burnadette Peters' version, Ragtime, Avenue Q, Phantom- of course, Annie Get Your Gun, Chorus Line , anything Sondheim, Aida... the list goes on and on. Don't ask me to choose.
Terrorist Cakes
15-07-2006, 22:46
*resists urge to make fun of sopranos who can't sing low notes* (*is proud alto/mezzo/thingie-with-crazy-range, not mean person*)

Heh. I like the exaggerated analogy. Anyway, though, I hope you get to play Christine someday and wear lots of floaty white dresses. She's actually on my secret guilty list of parts I'd kind of like to play just to show off, so I do understand the appeal. :)

Yeah, my lower range is pretty lame, but I can hit high C's like crazy. And thanks. I'll see you at Phantom auditions in the future!
Poliwanacraca
15-07-2006, 22:46
Ahhh musical theater...

My least favorite have to be anything by or similar to Gilbert and Sullivan.


Gilbert and Sullivan did not, strictly speaking, write musicals. They wrote operettas, which are more closely alligned with the opera tradition than the musical tradition. [/music nerd]

That said, I like them very much, but you don't have to. :)
Gravlen
15-07-2006, 22:49
I was talking TC innocently, and then she makes a dirty joke about something I said? That's....unusual.
Well it is her thread after all :p
Terrorist Cakes
15-07-2006, 22:54
I was talking TC innocently, and then she makes a dirty joke about something I said? That's....unusual.

I've been hanging out with sick-minded people! Don't blame me!
Dinaverg
15-07-2006, 22:56
I've been hanging out with sick-minded people! Don't blame me!

Like who?
Terrorist Cakes
15-07-2006, 23:07
Like who?

Like theatre people, and friends of theatre people.
Dinaverg
15-07-2006, 23:17
Like theatre people, and friends of theatre people.

I see...:D
Sonaj
15-07-2006, 23:18
Like theatre people, and friends of theatre people.
Ah, so the stories are true. My my my...
Smunkeeville
15-07-2006, 23:30
My favorite musical is Rogers and Hammerstien's Cinderella, my least favorite is Annie (although I did see it done rather nice once)

I have been in....

Grease (3 times, once as Frenchie, twice as Sandie, the first time was the "clean version" and the times as Sandie were the original)

The Wizard of Oz (2 times, once as the wicked witch of the west, and once as Dorothy)

My fair lady (I was chorus ;))

The Sound of Music ( I was Brigitta von Trapp)

The Little Shop of Horrors (chorus-ish one of the three "doo-wop" girls)

and last winter/Christmas I was in "The Gift" I played "the fruit vendors wife" and had a solo but most of the time I was chorus. (it was an adaptation of "The gift of the Magi" (http://www.auburn.edu/~vestmon/Gift_of_the_Magi.html))
Terrorist Cakes
15-07-2006, 23:38
My favorite musical is Rogers and Hammerstien's Cinderella, my least favorite is Annie (although I did see it done rather nice once)



I thought you might like that one, based on your location. Bet you're jealous of me for being in it (even though my only line was "I wish I were a younger girl!")!
The White Hats
15-07-2006, 23:51
The only involvement I've had with musicals was helping to adapt Titus Andronicus into a musical for a fringe group a while back.

Apart from that, my favourite musical has to be Jerry Springer - The Opera.
Smunkeeville
15-07-2006, 23:57
I thought you might like that one, based on your location. Bet you're jealous of me for being in it (even though my only line was "I wish I were a younger girl!")!
I like that song!

I was almost in it once, I was going to be Portia, but our production got shut down opening night because of a tornado that ripped through the theater. :(

*sings*

Oh why would a fellow want a girl like her,
A girl who's merely lovely?
Why can't a fellow ever once prefer
a girl who's merely me?!

She's a frothy little bubble
with a frilly sort of air
and with very little trouble
I could pull out all her hair!! Ha ha ha ha!