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You know, the women who I talk to who don't want to have children, I can count on one hand. However, a majority of women do want to have children, why? I mean honestly, what is the point of having children when they're just going to grow up, tell you that they hate you, and that your generation screwed up the world etc. They don't realize all the good things you did for them until they're out on their own well into adulthood. I tell you, couples who don't have children have some nice stuff. So what do yall think, why do people want children?

How old are the womaen you talk to? No one wants to have kids when you're young. Kids hold you down, take responsibility, make you fat.

I'm not certain why most people want children, however I can see how some people would want them to give their lives meaning.

It isn't just women. MOst men I know want to breed also. God knows why. Kids are messy, expensive, loud, hate you for about 7 years when they're teenagers and your entire life revolves around them for 18 or beyond.

Gotta say, I'm a 24 year old woman who does not desire children. Maybe my biological clock is broken- all I know is that the world is already overpopulated so really I'm helping out

How old are the womaen you talk to? No one wants to have kids when you're young. Kids hold you down, take responsibility, make you fat.

Eh anywhere from 18 to 23.

Indeed. Why?

I think that, in partial, it is a human instinct to preserve the species. More specifically, I think that for most women it fulfills a desire to nurture. For men it's a desire to pass on their "legacy".

Plus, even though they go through a phase in their life where they resent you and everything else in the world, they usually come around to appreciate the troubles you went through to not kill them or to keep them from killing themselves. They can be cute little buggers when they're young, too.

If you're really lucky, they might even change your Depends for you when you can't wipe your own ass anymore. :p

I think that, in partial, it is a human instinct to preserve the species. More specifically, I think that for most women it fulfills a desire to nurture. For men it's a desire to pass on their "legacy".

Plus, even though they go through a phase in their life where they resent you and everything else in the world, they usually come around to appreciate the troubles you went through to not kill them or to keep them from killing themselves. They can be cute little buggers when they're young, too.

If you're really lucky, they might even change your Depends for you when you can't wipe your own ass anymore. :p

Nah, that's what hot young nurse at the nursing home is for!

I don't have kids, I don't have any immediate plans to have kids, but I definitely see the appeal of it. Despite some of the headaches, there are definite non-material rewards to building a family. Kids sometimes grow up and go through that 'I hate you phase', but it generally doesn't last forever, and strong family bonds tend to help people through life and give some meaning to it.

How old are the womaen you talk to? No one wants to have kids when you're young. Kids hold you down, take responsibility, make you fat.
Incorrect. Age is rarely--if ever--a factor in a woman's standing on kids. Or a man's, for that matter. I want kids, even though I'm only nineteen and couldn't have any for some time. I want kids because I want to see more people open to everything. I'm sick of kids that are indoctrinated with various religious values that grow up into adults hating everyone and everything that does not match their specific ideals. I'm sick of racists literally growning new Neo-Nazis and the like. I'm sick of it all. That's why I want kids.

Been there, done that.

I have two of them, 34 and 35 years old. My daughter makes me proud and irritates me beyond reason. My son worries me, but is a much more pleasant person (2000 miles between you will do that).

Why have them? I haven't the foggiest. If I had it to do over again, I probably wouldn't. But I wouldn't give up the two I have now, I know it's a contradiction - so go figure.

Eh anywhere from 18 to 23.
And that IS too young to have kids. Ask your mother why she had kids or anyone else who is a parent.

Because kids taste delicious.

And that IS too young to have kids. Ask your mother why she had kids or anyone else who is a parent.

Eh yea, but usually at that point in your life you know if you want to have kids or not.

Because kids taste delicious.

espically the fat ones, they come with stuffings!

Ask your mother why she had kids or anyone else who is a parent.

Whenever I ask that the answer I get is "because the condom broke you belligerent little shit"

Whenever I ask that the answer I get is "because the condom broke you belligerent little shit"

Eh, I always get the cutesy little answear like "Because we just love children" or "It's a way of mommy and daddy showing how much they love one another." I don't buy that lol.

Incorrect. Age is rarely--if ever--a factor in a woman's standing on kids.

Well, you maybe young and know you want kids but I don't know anyone my age (grade 10) who wants kids and I know a lot of them. Wait, lie I know one. I'm fairly confident as we reach maturity we will develope some maternal instict and end up wanting kids and until you show me otherwise I'm going to call bullshit. When you do show be otherwise I will apologise and retract this statement.

Incorrect. Age is rarely--if ever--a factor in a woman's standing on kids. Or a man's, for that matter. I want kids, even though I'm only nineteen and couldn't have any for some time. I want kids because I want to see more people open to everything. I'm sick of kids that are indoctrinated with various religious values that grow up into adults hating everyone and everything that does not match their specific ideals. I'm sick of racists literally growning new Neo-Nazis and the like. I'm sick of it all. That's why I want kids.I can see that, but I'd rather put out an album or a book or movie that de-indoctrinates people.

Whenever I ask that the answer I get is "because the condom broke you belligerent little shit"

When my kids ask that question, my answer is "It was New Year's Eve, I was drunk."

Because you survived the abortion?

Your Dad promised he'd pull out in time.

Children, why have them?

Legal slave labor.

Gotta say, I'm a 24 year old woman who does not desire children. Maybe my biological clock is broken- all I know is that the world is already overpopulated so really I'm helping out

No, you probably aren't helping.

Consider this: For every worker the First World loses due to underpopulation, it imports from the Second or Third World. In the U.S., for example, we bring ours in from Mexico (mostly). In Mexico, the birthrate is in massive decline, while Mexican immigrants, once they come to the U.S. average more than double the rate as Mexicans who stay in Mexico.

Therefore, for every child you don't have, an immigrant, who would have had 2.5 kids in their home country, comes to your country and has 5. :p

(Disclaimer: Statistics simplified for purpose of example).

I want grandkids, and unfortunately, this is the only way to get them.

You know, the women who I talk to who don't want to have children, I can count on one hand. However, a majority of women do want to have children, why? I mean honestly, what is the point of having children when they're just going to grow up, tell you that they hate you, and that your generation screwed up the world etc. They don't realize all the good things you did for them until they're out on their own well into adulthood. I tell you, couples who don't have children have some nice stuff. So what do yall think, why do people want children?

What "children" think and how they treat you and other people depends on how you raise them. Our kids, who are now in their 30's and have kids of their own are great. How did we raise them...if you have time to read a doctorial dissertation on child rearing I'll tell you. :eek:

No, you probably aren't helping.

Consider this: For every worker the First World loses due to underpopulation, it imports from the Second or Third World. In the U.S., for example, we bring ours in from Mexico (mostly). In Mexico, the birthrate is in massive decline, while Mexican immigrants, once they come to the U.S. average more than double the rate as Mexicans who stay in Mexico.

Therefore, for every child you don't have, an immigrant, who would have had 2.5 kids in their home country, comes to your country and has 5. :p

(Disclaimer: Statistics simplified for purpose of example).

those crazy mexicans!

Incorrect. Age is rarely--if ever--a factor in a woman's standing on kids. Or a man's, for that matter. I want kids, even though I'm only nineteen and couldn't have any for some time. I want kids because I want to see more people open to everything. I'm sick of kids that are indoctrinated with various religious values that grow up into adults hating everyone and everything that does not match their specific ideals. I'm sick of racists literally growning new Neo-Nazis and the like. I'm sick of it all. That's why I want kids.

There is no guarantee at all, ever, that your kids will grow up to share your values.

I'm laid-back, patient, easy-going and moderate politically. My son is a hyper-conservative who thinks Limbaugh is too left-wing. My daughter is a nervous, impatient, type A personality who has to do everything yesterday and is incredibly intolerant of the foibles of others. Keep that in mind as your children grow up and completely deny that you have an values worthy of their consideration.

I want grandkids, and unfortunately, this is the only way to get them.
Not necessarily. You could adopt a 25 year old woman. She'll have children and bobs you're uncle, you have some grandchildren.

Legal slave labor.

<DING!> <DING!> <DING!> <DING!>

WE HAVE A WINNER!!!


...yep. I was tired of mowing the lawn. ;)

I can see that, but I'd rather put out an album or a book or movie that de-indoctrinates people.
Who says I can't do both?

Of course, no one mentions hormones calculating into this crazy idea called kids...

Who says I can't do both?


The Flying Spaghetti Monster.

And that IS too young to have kids. Ask your mother why she had kids or anyone else who is a parent.

That's not true; My mom had my sister when she was 20, and me when she was 23.

Because we were all children once and if your parents didn't have you, you couldn't post stupid crap threads like this.

Because we were all children once and if your parents didn't have you, you couldn't post stupid crap threads like this.

LOL! You win the thread. :p

Nah, that's what hot young nurse at the nursing home is for!

They can cost a lot too. At least with children you've already invested in them.

They can cost a lot too. At least with children you've already invested in them.

Yea, but by the time I'm in a home I'll probably be too senile to realize it. So yay!

Yea, but by the time I'm in a home I'll probably be too senile to realize it. So yay!


LOL! You'll also be too senile to realize that the nurse is hot and no amount of viagra will matter because you forgot where you put the thing in the first place.

LOL! You'll also be too senile to realize that the nurse is hot and no amount of viagra will matter because you forgot where you put the thing in the first place.

LOL, but at least I'll have hot nurse visiting me, even if I don't realize it, and that's all that matters.

Did I just hijack my own thread?

The Flying Spaghetti Monster.
My infernal, immortal enemy. Damn you Flying Spaghetti Monster! Damn you!!

My infernal, immortal enemy. Damn you Flying Spaghetti Monster! Damn you!!

:eek: Heathen! *whacks with swordfish*

You know, the women who I talk to who don't want to have children, I can count on one hand. However, a majority of women do want to have children, why? I mean honestly, what is the point of having children when they're just going to grow up, tell you that they hate you, and that your generation screwed up the world etc. They don't realize all the good things you did for them until they're out on their own well into adulthood. I tell you, couples who don't have children have some nice stuff. So what do yall think, why do people want children?
Why have children? For the chance to act all smug when they grow, go to college, have to get their own jobs, and realize that mommy and daddy did the best they could for junior(s), and that junior(s) was wrong about hating mommy and daddy. Confusing, ain't it?

I had kids because that's what happens at the end of a pregnancy, now why did I get pregnant?

condom didn't work
2000
condom and mini pill together didn't work
2003

A couple of reasons I think.

There's the whole leaving a legacy behind, or seeing immortality within the continuation of your bloodline.

There's the fact that watching children grow and devlop into adults, while agravating in the extream sometimes, is also profoundly rewarding.

I'm sure you're parents' curse (May you have children EXACTLY like you were!) has something to do with it.

And a big helping of we like having sex but tend to forget protection or it don't work sometimes. ;)

Not necessarily. You could adopt a 25 year old woman. She'll have children and bobs you're uncle, you have some grandchildren.
Ewww. Besides, an 25 year old woman living with me is going to be a hot filipina who keeps me warm when the hubby is gone...not a freakin adopted daughter! I'm no Woody Allen!!!

Have Children: Biology Demands It.

I'm 14. and i dont think my parents wanted me lol.:p :rolleyes: but thats probably because im in one of those "i hate my parents stages"...yeah i am. but i have talked to poeple and i think like once ur 30 woman wants babies and men need to get laid..so yeah.

Seems like the reason most people in this thread have kids is that it's an accident...now I wonder if this is true in the real world, too.

Who says I can't do both?You'll be too busy rearing children to write books and play music. ;)

Have Children: Biology Demands It.Biology, that bitch!

You know, funnily enough, my thoughts were along exactly the same lines as Neo K's. I would have hildren simply because I believe that he flesh of a small child would taste quite good.

Although I must admit, if I were to eat a baby, I'd more thn likely snatch a random one from somewhere, so as not to have to deal with the whole "Where is your child?" type police thingies.

Click on my msn and you'll see all you need to know about me and children.

Well, you maybe young and know you want kids but I don't know anyone my age (grade 10) who wants kids and I know a lot of them. Wait, lie I know one. I'm fairly confident as we reach maturity we will develope some maternal instict and end up wanting kids and until you show me otherwise I'm going to call bullshit. When you do show be otherwise I will apologise and retract this statement.

Not every woman develops the 'maternal instinct' that some people insist all women must have. Just as not all men develop a want to pass on their genes. I would direct you to look up the 'childfree'.

These are people who are adamant that they don't want kids, ever. You'll find that not all of them are young, and that some of them have gone to great lengths to become sterilized. No maternal instincts there.

As to why people want kids? I have no idea. Maybe because they're expected to. Society is telling people from childhood that they're going to grow up, get married, and have kids.

to continue the family blood-line, I'm the last male in my family to be able to do that, everyone else is either adopted, or is a girl and changed their name when they got married. So, I hope I marry a woman who wants to make babies.

You know, the women who I talk to who don't want to have children, I can count on one hand. However, a majority of women do want to have children, why? I mean honestly, what is the point of having children when they're just going to grow up, tell you that they hate you, and that your generation screwed up the world etc. They don't realize all the good things you did for them until they're out on their own well into adulthood. I tell you, couples who don't have children have some nice stuff. So what do yall think, why do people want children?
My children have never told me that they "hate" me. As a matter of fact, they tell me quite often that they love me. As do my grandchildren. As for the reasons for having children:

* They are our gift to the future and about as close as any of us will get to immortality.

* I have a pretty decent genetic inheritance that I want to pass on.

* When no one else loves me, I know my children will.

* I have a great deal of love to give and children are willing recipients.

* My ex and I raised good kids, and the world needs more good people.


How's that? :D

You know, the women who I talk to who don't want to have children, I can count on one hand. However, a majority of women do want to have children, why? I mean honestly, what is the point of having children when they're just going to grow up, tell you that they hate you, and that your generation screwed up the world etc. They don't realize all the good things you did for them until they're out on their own well into adulthood. I tell you, couples who don't have children have some nice stuff. So what do yall think, why do people want children?

Most children do not grow up and tell their parents they hate them. Most children tell their parents they hate them, and then grow up. :p

As for "why," well, there's an obvious biological imperative to pass on one's own genes. And there's the fact that parenthood is often considered to be a little bit more emotionally fulfilling than "having nice stuff."

You know, the women who I talk to who don't want to have children, I can count on one hand. However, a majority of women do want to have children, why? I mean honestly, what is the point of having children when they're just going to grow up, tell you that they hate you, and that your generation screwed up the world etc. They don't realize all the good things you did for them until they're out on their own well into adulthood. I tell you, couples who don't have children have some nice stuff. So what do yall think, why do people want children?

Technically, the only reason you exist is because every generation before you was successful in reproducing. Those who want kids are more likely to have healthy, successful kids than those who don't want kids, a trait which is most likely inherited. It's nobody's fault or choice - it's biology!

My children have never told me that they "hate" me. As a matter of fact, they tell me quite often that they love me. As do my grandchildren. As for the reasons for having children:

* They are our gift to the future and about as close as any of us will get to immortality.



Eh not true, when I become supreme ruler of earth, I plan on having laborers make a giant monument in honor of me, and when I die, I will be place in the monument, and when all of the planets in the solar system aligned, I will become immortal and return as a Zombie! :p

kids are ignorant little bastards..im a teenager and i already hate kids and to be honest, the whole teenage race, ahahaha

world population is out of control, and im gonna do my part by not fowling the earth with another little shit like me, ahaha

Incorrect. Age is rarely--if ever--a factor in a woman's standing on kids. Or a man's, for that matter.

I don't know...I've known quite a few people who were sure they didn't want children when they were 18, but who had changed their minds completely by the time they were 25. It happens. I think general life experience and, of course, finding someone you'd actually like to share parenting duties with can also change people's minds in that direction.

(This doesn't mean everyone changes his or her mind, obviously, but some people clearly do.)

you guys are so funny.

you know the way men look at a sexy woman and their eyes focus on her and they kinda get a drooly look? thats the way women look at babies. (women dont look at men that way at all)

women are (somewhat) programmed to love babies. personally i never liked babies much until i had one but now i love babies.

in the same way that men dont think that that hotbabe might be a psychobitch who fucks them then steals all the money out of their wallet while they are in the bathroom then stalk them for 6 months, women dont think about all the sleepless nights and puke stained blouses. they just see that sweet little baby in someone else's arms.

teenagers are the unfortunate byproduct of having a baby. no one wants a teenager, it just happens. luckily it only lasts a few years then they become adults and there is a good chance you will like them again.

as to the more practical decision to have a baby... and yes in western society virtually every baby is "planned" since almost anyone who really doesnt want one can get an abortion.....

children are FUN. raising a child is a very demanding job but it has immense rewards. children yank you out of your self-centered materialistic existence. children teach you the real meaning of unconditional love. children teach you patience and forgiveness. they change your priorities.

and they are always doing or saying something completely unexpected. they make you laugh, make you cry, drive you crazy. no big house or fancy car can compare to your child throwing his little arms around your neck and saying "i love you mommy" or (later) watching him walk across the stage to get his highschool diploma.

of course not everyone wants children. its not good for anyone to pressure a couple into having a baby for societal or family expectations. but thats not the question of the thread. the question was "why have children?"

we have children because of the significant rewards we get for having them.

Incorrect. Age is rarely--if ever--a factor in a woman's standing on kids. Or a man's, for that matter. I want kids, even though I'm only nineteen and couldn't have any for some time. I want kids because I want to see more people open to everything. I'm sick of kids that are indoctrinated with various religious values that grow up into adults hating everyone and everything that does not match their specific ideals. I'm sick of racists literally growning new Neo-Nazis and the like. I'm sick of it all. That's why I want kids.

Incorrect. Age is often a factor on both women & men . When I was in my teens & mid-twenties, I was strongly opposed to having kids. From about the age of 28 onwards, I started feeling quite strongly that I would like to have children. It has happened to almost all of my friends too. When I first met them at uni, none of them were at all interested in having kids. In fact, they were strongly opposed to the idea. Now, almost all of them have one, or more, children.

Well, I'm nearly 32 now... and I still don't want kids. Never did, probably never will. I'm just not the "maternal type", I guess...

So what do yall think, why do people want children?Because they taste good?

you guys are so funny.

you know the way men look at a sexy woman and their eyes focus on her and they kinda get a drooly look? thats the way women look at babies. (women dont look at men that way at all)

women are (somewhat) programmed to love babies. personally i never liked babies much until i had one but now i love babies.

in the same way that men dont think that that hotbabe might be a psychobitch who fucks them then steals all the money out of their wallet while they are in the bathroom then stalk them for 6 months, women dont think about all the sleepless nights and puke stained blouses. they just see that sweet little baby in someone else's arms.

teenagers are the unfortunate byproduct of having a baby. no one wants a teenager, it just happens. luckily it only lasts a few years then they become adults and there is a good chance you will like them again.

as to the more practical decision to have a baby... and yes in western society virtually every baby is "planned" since almost anyone who really doesnt want one can get an abortion.....

children are FUN. raising a child is a very demanding job but it has immense rewards. children yank you out of your self-centered materialistic existence. children teach you the real meaning of unconditional love. children teach you patience and forgiveness. they change your priorities.

and they are always doing or saying something completely unexpected. they make you laugh, make you cry, drive you crazy. no big house or fancy car can compare to your child throwing his little arms around your neck and saying "i love you mommy" or (later) watching him walk across the stage to get his highschool diploma.

of course not everyone wants children. its not good for anyone to pressure a couple into having a baby for societal or family expectations. but thats not the question of the thread. the question was "why have children?"

we have children because of the significant rewards we get for having them.


You might feel that way, but I sure don't. I prefer to drool over guys, thank you very much. And, yes, I do drool over guys occasionally :p

If you want to have a direct impact on how the world turns out, you can either teach children, mentor children, or have children (and teach and mentor them).

If you aren't having anything to do with children, you're not going to have much of an impact on what happens later.

Why do we have kids, really? This is a real question then is it?

Gosh well it seems to me that we have kids coz that it is how the world works, things die, and new things are born to replace them.

If you want to have a direct impact on how the world turns out, you can either teach children, mentor children, or have children (and teach and mentor them).

If you aren't having anything to do with children, you're not going to have much of an impact on what happens later.

Pft, influencing one kid won't do much. It's not worth the effort that's a bad reason.

I'm a 28 year old woman who absolutely does not want kids, though up until a few years ago i did. As for why people want to have kids, you'll have to ask those who want them. I can tell you why i don't. I'm not selfless enough to dedicate my life to another human being. I like my freedom and my own life too much. I like not having to get up in the middle of the night because a baby is crying, i like being able to go out or go on vacation without worrying about getting a babysitter or having to take the kid with me, etc.

I like kids, when i see one i think "how cute" and i have no problem babysitting my cousins, but i like giving them back at the end of the day. One day with them reaffirms the fact that i don't want children.

Because they're cute and cuddly until they turn into evil obnoxious brats, which is now inevitable thanks to the Prada-wearing society.:rolleyes:

That's not true. Most of the people I know are like the Flanders; caring, loving and respectful Christian and Buddhists. They will too, if they have good faith and good discipline (for example giving your kid a slap).

That's not true. Most of the people I know are like the Flanders; caring, loving and respectful Christian and Buddhists. They will too, if they have good faith and good discipline (for example giving your kid a slap).

Is it just me or does that post make no sense whatsoever?

Is it just me or does that post make no sense whatsoever?
Seconded.

Its not true that children are obnoxious and arrogant. If you give them parently love and a good environment, they'll become Earth loving business men and women, or trades men, or anything that benefits the society.

Its not true that children are obnoxious and arrogant. If you give them parently love and a good environment, they'll become Earth loving business men and women, or trades men, or anything that benefits the society.

"Earth loving business men" is a contradiction in itself.
And showering your child in affection and playing Our Town for it does not ensure its future character.

Its not true that children are obnoxious and arrogant. If you give them parently love and a good environment, they'll become Earth loving business men and women, or trades men, or anything that benefits the society.
They go to school. They are influenced by people other than their parents. Look at little girls: they all look alike. There's no way in hell that's the parents fault. It's fashion and peer pressure.

Personally, I've been telling everyone that I had my kid to raise the perfect homicidal maniac. He still needs work though; he's still too darn sweet. Maybe I'll have better luck turning the grandchildren into sociopathic serial killers. In the meantime, I don't have to do my dishes or clean the cat box anymore.

There is no greater honor in life or more successful memorial to you than having a child that is more succesful than you.

Or at least I think so.

Nah, that's what hot young nurse at the nursing home is for!

Whats the point when you're too old to get it up any more? :p ;) :D :eek:

Whats the point when you're too old to get it up any more? :p ;) :D :eek:

One word, Viagra.

I mean honestly, what is the point of having children when they're just going to grow up, tell you that they hate you, and that your generation screwed up the world etc. They don't realize all the good things you did for them until they're out on their own well into adulthood. I tell you, couples who don't have children have some nice stuff. So what do yall think, why do people want children?

Because not all of them are ingrates, and most are actually quite amazing to be around.