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...by crazed religious fanatics from the US protesting the Red Maple Leafs socialist and non-god-fearing people and policies. You know, the same way Israel is. What if these individuals stood on the border and launched bombs via rocket into Toronto? You know, the same way Israel is. What if they rode across in the dead of the night and shot Mounties and murdered any families they came across? You know, the same as Hamas in Israel.

What should the appropriate response by Canada be when they ask the US to pursue and prosecute those people and the US responds "no"? You know, the same way Palestine and other neighbors respond to Israel. What if the people of the US instead celebrated each attack and called for the destruction of Canada? You know, the same way Arabs celebrate attacks agains Israel. What would a justifiable response be? The first time? The tenth time. The 100th time?

Would the Canadian's have the balls to do anything our would they acquiesce and become a religious state pandering to the wishes of the American religious fanatics? You know, the same way the EU expects Israel to.

There, not so funny now, eh?

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So far it is obvious that the following people agree that Israel's military action against Muslim fundamental fanatics is justified in that they would employ similar tactics if they were in the same situation;

The Atlantian islands - "we'd kill them."

Neo Kervoskia - "the Imperial Army of Canada. They'll come"

Jello Biafra - "launch bombs via rockets into the U.S"

Big Jim P - "the British half would save its ass"

Yeshuallia - "electricity and Oil production would be immediately sabotaged"
"The Military would completely mobilize into the field, then surrender"


Si Takena - "I'd be the first one with a gun to the head of their leader."

Soviestan - "Canada going to war with religious fundies which is like my dream because I would sooo fight for Canada."

The Grendels - "We’d sign out guns, go guerilla, and make them pay. It’s not like we look different from Americans, although we’re slightly less obese. Infiltration would be a breeze."

Posi - "Quebec would resort to suicide bombing"

Cherny Land - "Canada cannot hope to win, but they sure can bloody the US or even cripple it."

East Canuck - "use special force and go get our man ourselves"

Gargantua City State - " I'll be the first to ask, "Where's my hunting rifle?" "


These folks would agree with the economic sanctions the Israli's have taken against the Arab nations (particularly the Palestinian Authority) which host the fundamentalists.


Vetalia - "cut off their oil exports"

Yeshuallia - "electricity and Oil production would be immediately sabotaged "

East Canuck - "we would slap heavy fines, tariffs and economic pressures to the US"

So - apparently - the vast majority of you sympathise with Israel.

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But I, nor any Americans would stand for terrorism...even more so attacking a close friend like Canada, and EVEN MORE SO coming from our own country.

It wouldnt happen, we'd kill them before the Canadians could suffer any loses.:)

We should invade Canada for inventing an organization that resulted in this:

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/153/8113.jpg

Canada as a clandestine army...the Imperial Army of Canada. They'll come...eventually.

Will they have their own Paul Rivere(sp?) shouting "The americans are comming! The Americans are comming?"

Nah... I think they'll be drinking.

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But I, nor any Americans would stand for terrorism...even more so attacking a close friend like Canada, and EVEN MORE SO coming from our own country.

It wouldnt happen, we'd kill them before the Canadians could suffer any loses.:)


Maybe so, but then that wasn't the question now, was it.

Will they have their own Paul Rivere(sp?) shouting "The americans are comming! The Americans are comming?"

Nah... I think they'll be drinking.

*looks up from barstool*

"wha? I thought they already owned everything here... dumbasses"

*goes back to pint*

Maybe so, but then that wasn't the question now, was it.

Which is why I answered 1 now, isnt it?

Couldn't the Canadians stand on the border and launch bombs via rockets into the U.S.?

They would give in, their little pansies like that.

They would bomb the Baldwins and Arquettes.

I can't be bothered trying to figure out what BOzzy's on about, though I suspect he's trying to make us Canadians uptight or something.

It's not working, BOzzy. Better go back under the bridge to cook up some other angle...

They would give in, their little pansies like that.
They would give in their little pansies like that to whom? Who needs flowers?

Couldn't the Canadians stand on the border and launch bombs via rockets into the U.S.?

We would just detonate all the hidden explosives in the various comedians staged throughout the US.

No Stand-Up club is safe...

I can't be bothered trying to figure out what BOzzy's on about, though I suspect he's trying to make us Canadians uptight or something.

It's not working, BOzzy. Better go back under the bridge to cook up some other angle...
Maybe he thinks it's just us Canadians who oppose what Israel is up to...

But I join you in your indifference. Apple pie...now that's something to get excited about!

The "Canadians" must be doing something to piss off the people attacking them

like bombing residential areas with F-16s

The "Canadians" must be doing something to piss off the people attacking them

like bombing residential areas with F-16s

Well our aircraft have been known to fall out of the sky inexplicably.

I can't be bothered trying to figure out what BOzzy's on about, though I suspect he's trying to make us Canadians uptight or something.

It's not working, BOzzy. Better go back under the bridge to cook up some other angle...


Nah - I am closer to being Canadian than you may expect. Canada was just a better example because the only other choice was Mexico. Canada is a more understood government than Mexico. That's all. Get your hackles down.

Maybe he thinks it's just us Canadians who oppose what Israel is up to...

But I join you in your indifference. Apple pie...now that's something to get excited about!
Well, I certainly oppose what Isael is up to these days, but this conjecture of BOzzy's is just plain asinine.

Pie is good. Me like cherry.

Get your hackles down.
You'd have to do a better job of getting 'em up in the first place...

They'd probably cut off their oil exports to us in exchange for giving up the terrorists. That would force our hand quite rapidly in to handing over the perpetrators to the government.

*looks up from barstool*

"wha? I thought they already owned everything here... dumbasses"

*goes back to pint*

You know what... Even if they did have a Paul Rivire, he'd do the exact same thing you just did I'll bet.

You know what... Even if they did have a Paul Rivire, he'd do the exact same thing you just did I'll bet.

He might try to get on his horse, but he'd fall off.

In all seriousness though... not really. Although I personally would probably be in the bar. After all, what would be the point of fighting? You would just be adding 30 million liberal-democrats and tip the scale of the left in presidential elections. We'll take over from the inside. We're like that.

Might even bring about the Metric system! (gasp!)

Might even bring about the Metric system! (gasp!)

Hell no...miles per gallon sounds at least 305 times cooler than km/liter!

Hell no...miles per gallon sounds at least 305 times cooler than km/liter!

No, you'd end up with the same strange system we have; learn metric in schools, and use Imperial in everyday life (with the exception of road signs.)

The only reason I know my height in metric, is because it's on my driver's license. I think of it in the Imperial system, same with weight. I imagine most Canadians are just as screwed up as I am.

No, you'd end up with the same strange system we have; learn metric in schools, and use Imperial in everyday life (with the exception of road signs.) The only reason I know my height in metric, is because it's on my driver's license. I think of it in the Imperial system, same with weight. I imagine most Canadians are just as screwed up as I am.

We learn the metric in the US but it's not used outside of science classes. In that case, I guess we're really not that much different when it comes to the two systems. :eek:

I can use both pretty well, so it's all good whether I'm in the US, Canada, UK, or Europe.

The French half would surrender, and the British half would save its ass.

If Canada were attacked they would enact the Pierpoint plan.

#1 all electricity and Oil production would be immediately sabotaged ending production for at least 3-6 months.

#2 The Military would completely mobilize into the field, then surrender.

The offshoot of this would be that although Canada would be non-existant from that point on, the United States economy would be destroyed and the nation crippled as well. Canada supplies upwards of 35% of the USA's electricity and is the largest supplier of oil to the USA. When gasoline hits $7.00 a gallon because supply from Canada ended all heck would break loose. And imagine what a six month long black out/brown out would be like. Plus the cost of housing all the prisoners of war would drive the US government even further into debt. Canada may not be mighty, but they're cunning and they don't play fair. Thats why we won the war of 1812.

Besides, if they are religious fundamentalists they cannot attack anyway. Christians are pacifists just like our Lord and saviour taught us to be at the Sermon on the mount.

They would give in their little pansies like that to whom? Who needs flowers?
I need flowers.

Canada may not be mighty, but they're cunning and they don't play fair. Thats why we won the war of 1812.

A comment about who won the War of 1812?

It was a draw people! an inconclusive draw!

*runs from thread*

Always remember, if a Christian isn't a pacifist, he isn't a Christian.

A comment about who won the War of 1812?

It was a draw people! an inconclusive draw!

*runs from thread*

See, now isn't this more fun than Israel analogies? Really, who doesn't like a Canada vs. US wartime scenario. It get's the maple syrup flowing.

Always remember, if a Christian isn't a pacifist, he isn't a Christian.

Well, if you want to be didactic:
"No one is [religion x]; your beliefs are [beliefs of religion x]."

So quit dulling you mind and cramping your identity.

If the US attacked Canada then the US would become an occupied territory of the Canadian Empire, as would Mexico, for the simple reason that if they're already Canadian then they can't illegally enter Canada.

It's really quite simple.

Depends. Are those religious fundamentalists trying to force their beliefs down my throat? Then I'd be the first one with a gun to the head of their leader.

Otherwise, whatever. Not a big change (One hatred [socialism], for another [religious fanatacism]).

We cant attack Canada!
Where the hell would the draft dodgers go?

We cant attack Canada!
Where the hell would the draft dodgers go?
Cuba?

If thats the case... I will prepare my maple-flavoured oil and splash it onto my enemies and unleash my torrent of hungry beavers. :)

If thats the case... I will prepare my maple-flavoured oil and splash it onto my enemies and unleash my torrent of hungry beavers. :)

Im in! Me first me first!

Im in! Me first me first!
Hahahaha...you just love the idea of being mobbed by hungry beavers, don't you!

Hahahaha...you just love the idea of being mobbed by hungry beavers, don't you!

It is something to aspire to.;)

Just send in Tie Domi to clear out all the American bible-thumpers.

No army can stand up to our secret force of Hockey Player Soldiers (HPS for you hip kids).

Originally Posted by Mikesburg
*looks up from barstool*

"wha? I thought they already owned everything here... dumbasses"

*goes back to pint*
You know what... Even if they did have a Paul Rivire, he'd do the exact same thing you just did I'll bet.
He would, and he did, in fact. Ever been to Concord, Massachusetts? There's a national park where you can walk the route of the original Paul Revere's ride and learn all about it. Revere and two cohorts made the ride, and it was pretty much a high speed pub crawl. They went from tavern to farm house to tavern, knocking back an ale or a rum at every stop, until they were stone fucking drunk when at last, they burst into a tavern to announce that the British were coming, only to find they were already there. The tavern was full of drunk British soldiers. There was a fight, a chase, another fight, and the revolutionaries got arrested. But they managed to get the word out before that, so it was okay.

you know, after 1st I thought this was going to be a fun thread about Canada going to war with religious fundies which is like my dream because I would sooo fight for Canada. But then it turn into another "omg I love Israel, the jews can do no wrong bs" and now Im sad. I hope your happy, and oh yeah, down with Israel.

Wouldn’t they have to have troops back in the US first to be able to launch an attack?

I talked this over with guys in the Canadian military, years ago. We’d sign out guns, go guerilla, and make them pay. It’s not like we look different from Americans, although we’re slightly less obese. Infiltration would be a breeze. If it came to it you’d be wise to buy fire insurance for the White House. It happened before. :D

The French half would surrender, and the British half would save its ass.
Quebec would resort to suicide bombing before it surrendered to the US. America is the only thing French Canada hates more than British Canada.

I'd hate it if the US took over Canada. The price of pot would surely sky-rocket.

We have overlooked something quite important here. We have Celine Dion, and can unleash Celine Dion on the US populace at our will.

"I talked this over with guys in the Canadian military, years ago. We’d sign out guns, go guerilla, and make them pay. It’s not like we look different from Americans, although we’re slightly less obese."---The Grendels

sorry, i couldn't help but laugh----see the fattest canadians i've met are IN the canadian military.

We have overlooked something quite important here. We have Celine Dion, and can unleash Celine Dion on the US populace at our will.


You monsters! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

"I talked this over with guys in the Canadian military, years ago. We’d sign out guns, go guerilla, and make them pay. It’s not like we look different from Americans, although we’re slightly less obese."---The Grendels

sorry, i couldn't help but laugh----see the fattest canadians i've met are IN the canadian military.
That's why we would give the guns to civilians; they are in shape.

Though my dad has about 5 hunting riffles, so my family should be fine.:)

Will they have their own Paul Rivere(sp?) shouting "The americans are comming! The Americans are comming?"

Nah... I think they'll be drinking.


what do you think of paul rivere the idea to do that anyway?

he was obvioulsy drunk.

and this site needs a beer drinking smiley.

Something the US Army does not like to admit, but the Canadians are damn good snipers. Rated best in the world, last I heard. Plus they've got all the woodland in the world to hide in. In my opinion, Canada cannot hope to win, but they sure can bloody the US or even cripple it. Those sneaky Canadians are a dangerous lot when they put down their weed. :D

A comment about who won the War of 1812?

It was a draw people! an inconclusive draw!

*runs from thread*
You can't invade a country, fail to take any land, get pushed back, make peace, and then proceed to call it draw. That's just silly.

You can't invade a country, fail to take any land, get pushed back, make peace, and then proceed to call it draw. That's just silly.

Yes you can, if you have the fat people to back it up you can do anything.

I can't be bothered trying to figure out what BOzzy's on about, though I suspect he's trying to make us Canadians uptight or something.

It's not working, BOzzy. Better go back under the bridge to cook up some other angle...
Fairly pathetic attempt eh?

Bozzy the droll troll. :D

He would, and he did, in fact. Ever been to Concord, Massachusetts? There's a national park where you can walk the route of the original Paul Revere's ride and learn all about it. Revere and two cohorts made the ride, and it was pretty much a high speed pub crawl. They went from tavern to farm house to tavern, knocking back an ale or a rum at every stop, until they were stone fucking drunk when at last, they burst into a tavern to announce that the British were coming, only to find they were already there. The tavern was full of drunk British soldiers. There was a fight, a chase, another fight, and the revolutionaries got arrested. But they managed to get the word out before that, so it was okay.

Sounds like the plot to an Owen Wilson movie. Maybe throw Jackie Chan in there for good measure.

We have overlooked something quite important here. We have Celine Dion, and can unleash Celine Dion on the US populace at our will.

We already unleashed Celine Dion. Even the UN might consider that enough provocation for war.

The Cannucks would wait for the american infidels or heretics to be overtaken by The Arctic Cold.

...by crazed religious fanatics from the US protesting the Red Maple Leafs socialist and non-god-fearing people and policies. You know, the same way Israel is. What if these individuals stood on the border and launched bombs via rocket into Toronto? You know, the same way Israel is. What if they rode across in the dead of the night and shot Mounties and murdered any families they came across? You know, the same as Hamas in Israel.

What should the appropriate response by Canada be when they ask the US to pursue and prosecute those people and the US responds "no"? You know, the same way Palestine and other neighbors respond to Israel. What if the people of the US instead celebrated each attack and called for the destruction of Canada? You know, the same way Arabs celebrate attacks agains Israel. What would a justifiable response be? The first time? The tenth time. The 100th time?

Would the Canadian's have the balls to do anything our would they acquiesce and become a religious state pandering to the wishes of the American religious fanatics? You know, the same way the EU expects Israel to.

There, not so funny now, eh?

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:rolleyes: Where to start?
Let's go with that poll is incredibly dumb and biased. Next, we shall laugh at the pitiful attempt to goad Canadians into accepting what Israel did, no questions asked.

But, I'm bored so I'll respond.

- First, we would remind the US about the extradition treaty we have with them.
- If they still refuse to apprehend and turn over the accused, we would register former complaints to the UN, call for internationnal pressure and other multi-partite actions.
- Then we would slap heavy fines, tariffs and economic pressures to the US.
If that didn't work, say goodbye to our exports. That means goodbye to your #1 supplier of oil, goodbye to electricity in the north, goodbye to lumber at a reasonnable price and other various economic incentives.
- If that didn't work, then we might be forced to use special force and go get our man ourselves ignoring innocent civilians, not doing collateral dammage, not invading, not annexing vermont and the state of Washington and certainly not bulldozing houses.
- we would then proceed to give them a just and fair trial, not sending them to a military base in the north for them to rot for five years without legal recourse and subjecting them to various torture.
- In no way would we invade England because of alleged ties to the christian fundamentalist
- In no way would we assume those fat-ass USians are all christian fundamentalists out to get us.

are my refences clear enough for you or should I go back and add some italic texts?

They would give in, their little pansies like that.
:rolleyes:
I can see you're going to get far, kid.

The French half would surrender, and the British half would save its ass.
:rolleyes:
funny, but you hit a nerve and as such, I can't help but roll my eyes at the inane steroetype.

--SNIP---
We'd get all the street gangs in Toronto together, promise to drop all charges and unleash them against the American religious fundies...

That would never ever ever happen.

If those bible belt whackos come up to Canada with guns blazing, they're going to find a well armed populous, and I'll be the first to ask, "Where's my hunting rifle?"
Man, you think Iraq is a mess... you wait to see what guerilla warfare is like in a country of hunters with hundreds of square kilometers of bush to hide in. :p

How about the missing opion, where we just ignore them since we make our own decisions.

isn't the current Canadian PM a fundie, or have lots of fundie supporters?

...by crazed religious fanatics from the US protesting the Red Maple Leafs socialist and non-god-fearing people and policies. You know, the same way Israel is. What if these individuals stood on the border and launched bombs via rocket into Toronto? You know, the same way Israel is. What if they rode across in the dead of the night and shot Mounties and murdered any families they came across? You know, the same as Hamas in Israel.

What should the appropriate response by Canada be when they ask the US to pursue and prosecute those people and the US responds "no"? You know, the same way Palestine and other neighbors respond to Israel. What if the people of the US instead celebrated each attack and called for the destruction of Canada? You know, the same way Arabs celebrate attacks agains Israel. What would a justifiable response be? The first time? The tenth time. The 100th time?

Would the Canadian's have the balls to do anything our would they acquiesce and become a religious state pandering to the wishes of the American religious fanatics? You know, the same way the EU expects Israel to.

There, not so funny now, eh?

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I never thought Canada had an army... so Canada would either be saved by moose hunters or somethin'. But no victory for religiosos.

If those bible belt whackos come up to Canada with guns blazing, they're going to find a well armed populous, and I'll be the first to ask, "Where's my hunting rifle?"
Man, you think Iraq is a mess... you wait to see what guerilla warfare is like in a country of hunters with hundreds of square kilometers of bush to hide in. :p

Well, even if there a a few bush, it'll be different... no shrubs in Iraq.

I never thought Canada had an army... so Canada would either be saved by moose hunters or somethin'. But no victory for religiosos.
:rolleyes:

isn't the current Canadian PM a fundie, or have lots of fundie supporters?

There's no doubt that he has fundie supporters. Whether or not he's a 'fundie', I don't really think so. Religion isn't really good politics in Canada. Harper ends his speeches with 'God bless Canada', which is relatively inoffensive since even secular people agree with the sentiment. He definitely has conservative leanings, but fundamentalists generally are anti-secular state and pro-theocracy. Harper's more of a right-leaning economic conservative who plays to the bible thumpers to secure his power. He's more about decentralization and giving more power to the provinces than he is about religious morality.

And Harper's views, despite being PM, definitely don't apply to the majority of Canadians.

And Harper's views, despite being PM, definitely don't apply to the majority of Canadians.
I think Canadians, especially the youth, have become more concerned about fiscal conservatism, which as a result has become a staple of both the Conservative and Liberal parties' platforms.

It might not be too farfetched to see the debate on the CRTC or the CBC reopened in the near future. Canadians are socially left-leaning, but they believe in accountability for their money, which means we are currently leaning towards a shrinking of the government.

isn't Canada still technically a part of the UK since they can't govern themselves ;)

as for the hunters going to geurilla warfare, we got hunters too :p

I think Canadians, especially the youth, have become more concerned about fiscal conservatism, which as a result has become a staple of both the Conservative and Liberal parties' platforms.

It might not be too farfetched to see the debate on the CRTC or the CBC reopened in the near future. Canadians are socially left-leaning, but they believe in accountability for their money, which means we are currently leaning towards a shrinking of the government.
Hmm, my school was mostly pro-NDP. I suppose it could just be an exception.

isn't Canada still technically a part of the UK since they can't govern themselves ;)

as for the hunters going to geurilla warfare, we got hunters too :p
No. We can govern oursleves. We just prefer to tell the queen how to govern us.

Home turf advantage. We can build blinds and such and do some crazy snipping. You guys have to try and be stealthy, we can just sit there.

We cant attack Canada!
Where the hell would the draft dodgers go?


ROFLMAO!

Home turf advantage. We can build blinds and such and do some crazy snipping. You guys have to try and be stealthy, we can just sit there.

we totally have 'canuck calls'. It lets out a maple syrup scent and makes it sound like a hockey game is going on. Can't deny that'll bring you guys running by the thousands :p

...by crazed religious fanatics from the US protesting the Red Maple Leafs socialist and non-god-fearing people and policies. You know, the same way Israel is. What if these individuals stood on the border and launched bombs via rocket into Toronto? You know, the same way Israel is. What if they rode across in the dead of the night and shot Mounties and murdered any families they came across? You know, the same as Hamas in Israel.

What should the appropriate response by Canada be when they ask the US to pursue and prosecute those people and the US responds "no"? You know, the same way Palestine and other neighbors respond to Israel. What if the people of the US instead celebrated each attack and called for the destruction of Canada? You know, the same way Arabs celebrate attacks agains Israel. What would a justifiable response be? The first time? The tenth time. The 100th time?

Would the Canadian's have the balls to do anything our would they acquiesce and become a religious state pandering to the wishes of the American religious fanatics? You know, the same way the EU expects Israel to.

There, not so funny now, eh?

italics=editI don't recall any incursions into US territory by Canadians after an irish army marched north and was defeated... Perhaps none of the above would be the best answer, judging from history ;)

I don't recall any incursions into US territory by Canadians after an irish army marched north and was defeated... Perhaps none of the above would be the best answer, judging from history ;)
You know of the Irish/Negr Army that tried to invade canada and make it an Irish Republic?
*worship pending*

You know of the Irish/Negr Army that tried to invade canada and make it an Irish Republic?
*worship pending*Read about it in a museum in Dublin ;)

we totally have 'canuck calls'. It lets out a maple syrup scent and makes it sound like a hockey game is going on. Can't deny that'll bring you guys running by the thousands :p

If you play the Hockey Night in Canada theme, that will get quite a few 'deer in the headlights' looks.

Wait a minute, why am I helping you guys?

*begins to draft NFL cheerleaders to the Canadian side*

Read about it in a museum in Dublin ;)
YAY!
*worships*

So far it is obvious that the following people agree that Israel's military action against Muslim fundamental fanatics is justified in that they would employ similar tactics if they were in the same situation;

The Atlantian islands - "we'd kill them."

Neo Kervoskia - "the Imperial Army of Canada. They'll come"

Jello Biafra - "launch bombs via rockets into the U.S"

Big Jim P - "the British half would save its ass"

Yeshuallia - "electricity and Oil production would be immediately sabotaged"
"The Military would completely mobilize into the field, then surrender"


Si Takena - "I'd be the first one with a gun to the head of their leader."

Soviestan - "Canada going to war with religious fundies which is like my dream because I would sooo fight for Canada."

The Grendels - "We’d sign out guns, go guerilla, and make them pay. It’s not like we look different from Americans, although we’re slightly less obese. Infiltration would be a breeze."

Posi - "Quebec would resort to suicide bombing"

Cherny Land - "Canada cannot hope to win, but they sure can bloody the US or even cripple it."

East Canuck - "use special force and go get our man ourselves"

Gargantua City State - " I'll be the first to ask, "Where's my hunting rifle?" "


These folks would agree with the economic sanctions the Israli's have taken against the Arab nations (particularly the Palestinian Authority) which host the fundamentalists.


Vetalia - "cut off their oil exports"

Yeshuallia - "electricity and Oil production would be immediately sabotaged "

East Canuck - "we would slap heavy fines, tariffs and economic pressures to the US"

So - apparently - the vast majority of you sympathise with Israel.

I would not submit, but I would not fight, either. I would sooner die than compromise by beliefs as a pacifist. It's as simple as that.

What should the appropriate response by Canada be when they ask the US to pursue and prosecute those people and the US responds "no"?
There's nothing Canada could do that would not cause an American invasion.

So far it is obvious that the following people *snip*

And Mikesburg will stay in the pub. (Despite leanings towards Israel in this situation.)

I would not submit, but I would not fight, either. I would sooner die than compromise by beliefs as a pacifist. It's as simple as that.
It's people like you that keep the world from being a better place by not standing up to evil.

There's nothing Canada could do that would not cause an American invasion.

Many folks have read into the scenario some sort of American military invasion. That does not exist in this scenario. It was indicated quite clearly that it was militants independant of the US government.

It's people like you that keep the world from being a better place by not standing up to evil.

That's harsh man. If everyone were like her, than we wouldn't need to stand up to evil. Let the piss'n'vinegar people have their way, and the peaceniks theirs.

It's people like you that keep the world from being a better place by not standing up to evil.

I'm not standing up to evil by refusing to hurt others? I'm supporting evil by deciding not to judge people? I'm evil myself for realising that my life is not worth anything more than the life of my enemy? That's a new one.

No army can stand up to our secret force of Hockey Player Soldiers (HPS for you hip kids).

So True... So absolutely True.

We should invade Canada for inventing an organization that resulted in this:

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/153/8113.jpg

Don't worry Canada if thise american b**t***s invade we'll be on your side i'll make sure. You are a close relation and share similar history culture and tradition. We'll nuke the bloody americans if they invade so :upyours: america.

also we'll:sniper: :sniper: George and his cronies and restore proper British and canadian rule. We'll call the new country briada and itll be run by an alliance.

Hmm, my school was mostly pro-NDP. I suppose it could just be an exception.

Hey mine too. NDP is going to be in power in the next 15 years, tops.

They would surrender and change their government to reflect the values of the fundamentalists.
True, true...

True, true...

False, false...

False, false...
B+

You can go home now...

How completely irrelevant to the situation in the Mid East. Perhaps if you’d included something in that mental masturbation you call a post about Canadians forcing Americans out of their homes and taking their land, you could make a very tenuous association with the crimes of Isreal and the response of an opressed people.

B+

You can go home now...

Thank-you for your graciousness. I'll take my passing grade and go home.

Wait... I am home. What are you doing here?

Your house? Damit, i made wrong turn somwhere...

How completely irrelevant to the situation in the Mid East. Perhaps if you’d included something in that mental masturbation you call a post about Canadians forcing Americans out of their homes and taking their land, you could make a very tenuous association with the crimes of Isreal and the response of an opressed people.

Awww, whats the matter? I didn't paid the right people as the bad guys for your little mind to grasp onto?

Grow up.

Don't worry Canada if thise american b**t***s invade we'll be on your side i'll make sure. You are a close relation and share similar history culture and tradition. We'll nuke the bloody americans if they invade so :upyours: america.

also we'll:sniper: :sniper: George and his cronies and restore proper British and canadian rule. We'll call the new country briada and itll be run by an alliance.


Wow - only four posts after I reiterated that there is nothing in the scenario about a US invasion and some dumbass is already doing it again. With intellect like that watching their back it sounds like Canada needs new friends.

In response to B0zzy's edit of the OP, I would say that I don't disagree with what he said in the edit, however my personal views on the situation are slightly different. While in particular situations, I can see how one side or the other might have the moral high ground, as a whole, I can't see how either Israel nor the Arabs against Israel have the moral high ground. (Moral high ground in this case being the just use of military or other types of force.)

In response to B0zzy's edit of the OP, I would say that I don't disagree with what he said in the edit, however my personal views on the situation are slightly different. While in particular situations, I can see how one side or the other might have the moral high ground, as a whole, I can't see how either Israel nor the Arabs against Israel have the moral high ground. (Moral high ground in this case being the just use of military or other types of force.)

Moral high ground? There's nothing moral about what's going on over there, that's for sure. I do sympathise with Israel in this situation. However, their heavy-handed approach to this will only exacerbate the problem. But given the situation, I couldn't see myself putting up with it for too long either.

I think they should just get everyone over there to have a breakdancing competition. The losers have to convert. Problem solved, and we all get to see some funky moves.

Many folks have read into the scenario some sort of American military invasion. That does not exist in this scenario. It was indicated quite clearly that it was militants independant of the US government.
Think about it. The US is OK with these militants.

1. Canada attacks locations on US soil = US counter attacks.

2. Canada imposes economic sanctions = US attacks.

The only hope would be to invoke that NATO clause. That's not on the poll.

That's harsh man. If everyone were like her, than we wouldn't need to stand up to evil. Let the piss'n'vinegar people have their way, and the peaceniks theirs.
But not everyone is like her and the minority that aren't must be controlled.

I'm not standing up to evil by refusing to hurt others? I'm supporting evil by deciding not to judge people?
Yes. If you don't restrain people who hurt and kill, then they're only going hurt and kill more people after they're done with you. By not resisting, you're complicit. That's reality.

Many Canadians are of Finnish descent. As such they know exactly what to do when a superpower invades. You take to the hills, get your hunting rifle, and pick them off one by one. It's easier if you bring cross country skis.

Hands off my maple syrup!!!! :eek:

But not everyone is like her and the minority that aren't must be controlled.

Yes. If you don't restrain people who hurt and kill, then they're only going hurt and kill more people after they're done with you. By not resisting, you're complicit. That's reality.

While I'm hardly a pacifist, condemning someone for being so isn't right. They aren't 'part of the problem', they've just removed themselves from the equation. There's plenty of us 'violent' folks to do the 'restraining'.

Passive resistance has its place too.

Think about it. The US is OK with these militants.

1. Canada attacks locations on US soil = US counter attacks.

2. Canada imposes economic sanctions = US attacks.

The only hope would be to invoke that NATO clause. That's not on the poll.


But not everyone is like her and the minority that aren't must be controlled.


Yes. If you don't restrain people who hurt and kill, then they're only going hurt and kill more people after they're done with you. By not resisting, you're complicit. That's reality.

The US could never win a war with Canada.

Of course it couldn't lose either. The best it could hope for would be some nightmare version of Vietnam, except this time the Ho Chi Min trail leads right to, well, Chicago, New York, Seatle, etc.

Moral high ground? There's nothing moral about what's going on over there, that's for sure. I do sympathise with Israel in this situation. However, their heavy-handed approach to this will only exacerbate the problem. But given the situation, I couldn't see myself putting up with it for too long either.Yes, I can agree with this. While I believe Israel has the right to defend itself, I also believe they've gone farther than necessary.

It's not so much that I have an opinion on whether Israel's current actions are right or wrong. They're just stupid.

By the way, has nobody considered that Canada's has maintained good enough relations with most of its neighbours that it wouldn't be attacked? Israel has been an agressor plenty of times in Middle Eastern conflicts.

That's where the analogy falls down in my opinion. I say we wouldn't get invaded. You say but what if we did. I reply that in order for that to happen Canada would have to be significantly different from its current incarnation. This Canada is not at risk from this situation because part of who we are is defined by not being at risk from these types of situations.

It's not so much that I have an opinion on whether Israel's current actions are right or wrong. They're just stupid.

By the way, has nobody considered that Canada's has maintained good enough relations with most of its neighbours that it wouldn't be attacked? Israel has been an agressor plenty of times in Middle Eastern conflicts.

That's where the analogy falls down in my opinion. I say we wouldn't get invaded. You say but what if we did. I reply that in order for that to happen Canada would have to be significantly different from its current incarnation. This Canada is not at risk from this situation because part of who we are is defined by not being at risk from these types of situations.

Oh once the nukes start flying even beloved Canada will not be safe.

Oh once the nukes start flying even beloved Canada will not be safe.
Which is why we're in negotiations with the bad guys to get them to consider prevailing winds when launching against the US.

So far it is obvious that the following people agree that Israel's military action against Muslim fundamental fanatics is justified in that they would employ similar tactics if they were in the same situation;

no, no, no!

way to misrepresent my stance. Not only did I say that Israel was going too far, I also said the following things which Israel is not doing:

- If that didn't work, then we might be forced to use special force and go get our man ourselves ignoring innocent civilians, not doing collateral dammage, not invading, not annexing vermont and the state of Washington and certainly not bulldozing houses.
- we would then proceed to give them a just and fair trial, not sending them to a military base in the north for them to rot for five years without legal recourse and subjecting them to various torture.
- In no way would we invade England because of alleged ties to the christian fundamentalist
- In no way would we assume those fat-ass USians are all christian fundamentalists out to get us.

I demand that you stop twisting my words in order to justify your pet cause.