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The population of NSEarth is more than 1.6 × 10^13 (16,000,000,000,000; or 16 TRILLION) people. Assuming NSEarth has one livable layer, it would have to have (assuming MAX population limit for the Earth is 25 billion people on 57.5 million sq miles of land) 92 TRILLION SQUARE MILES OF LAND (and it would have to grow daily). According to my calculations, A Jupiter-sized Earth-like planet would have 76 532 500 000 TOTAL square miles of surface area. Divide that by 4 for oceans and you get 19 133 125 000 square miles, or less than .2% of the requirement. NSEarth is HUGE! Anyone else have anything on this?

Yeah. Boohoo. It's a bloody game. Get over it.

Not enough resources or geographical area. OH NOES.

ugh, give it up already

ugh, give it up already

NO!

HEADBANGER PARADE
:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

NO!

HEADBANGER PARADE
:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
*respect for Minaris goes down by 10 points*

Anyone else care?

No?

Anybody?

The population of NSEarth is more than 1.6 × 10^13 (16,000,000,000,000; or 16 TRILLION) people. Assuming NSEarth has one livable layer, it would have to have (assuming MAX population limit for the Earth is 25 billion people on 57.5 million sq miles of land) 92 TRILLION SQUARE MILES OF LAND (and it would have to grow daily). According to my calculations, A Jupiter-sized Earth-like planet would have 76 532 500 000 TOTAL square miles of surface area. Divide that by 4 for oceans and you get 19 133 125 000 square miles, or less than .2% of the requirement. NSEarth is HUGE! Anyone else have anything on this?
i say start killin sim-people already... *stabby stab stab*

Maybe sim-people are very tiny? :p :p

Look, clearly what we're looking at here is a quantam layer arrangement. Each country inhabits it's own dimension, on a normal sized earth. As it leaves it's borders, it passes through a seamless dimensional portal, which brings it into the dimension of whatever country and/or ocean borders it. See?

I'm about 60 million people short of my NS country containing more people than are currently on this planet. 6.468 billion and counting. :D

Everywhere must be like downtown Tokyo, huge Ionosphere-scrapers, and with soylent green factories floating on the oceans.

Unlike most, I'm taking a serious reply to this:

Most RPers do not in fact play their entire population - it simply would not be feasible as they could simply crush other nations entirely. Instead, most nations I've seen RP only a set number of people as their population (for example, my NS nation has a population of nearly 3.8 billion, yet I only rp as if I have barely 1 billion). The reason? Because it would not make a very good RP to simply throw numbers about.

So yes, if everyone did play by their population, this would be a problem (that most people ignore, anyways) but many players do not role-play their exact population. This is also true on how many role-players do not role-play according to their military budget.

Another thing to note is the difference in Tech levels. MT players and FT players do not share the same places together. FT players span colonies or worlds upon worlds, while MT players are more on the NS earth itself. So NS Earth only consists of MT (and sometimes PMT) players. PT players are on a realm their own entirely away from FT players, though its mostly an organized RP that PT players pop up in.

I hope this clears things up.

*respect for Minaris goes down by 10 points*

**desire to war with Franberry raised to 25%**

When SPORE/NS2 comes out, we'll remember you.

*respect for Minaris goes down by 10 points*

Only 10? ;)

The population of NSEarth is more than 1.6 × 10^13 (16,000,000,000,000; or 16 TRILLION) people. Assuming NSEarth has one livable layer, it would have to have (assuming MAX population limit for the Earth is 25 billion people on 57.5 million sq miles of land) 92 TRILLION SQUARE MILES OF LAND (and it would have to grow daily). According to my calculations, A Jupiter-sized Earth-like planet would have 76 532 500 000 TOTAL square miles of surface area. Divide that by 4 for oceans and you get 19 133 125 000 square miles, or less than .2% of the requirement. NSEarth is HUGE! Anyone else have anything on this?

NS is located on Larry Nivens ringworld. Plenty of room ;)

I'm about 60 million people short of my NS country containing more people than are currently on this planet. 6.468 billion and counting. :D

Everywhere must be like downtown Tokyo, huge Ionosphere-scrapers, and with soylent green factories floating on the oceans.

I guess that might work, but NS2 would have to be in/past 2075 for technology to be at that level.

MP5's!

:mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:

The population of NSEarth is more than 1.6 × 10^13 (16,000,000,000,000; or 16 TRILLION) people. Assuming NSEarth has one livable layer, it would have to have (assuming MAX population limit for the Earth is 25 billion people on 57.5 million sq miles of land) 92 TRILLION SQUARE MILES OF LAND (and it would have to grow daily). According to my calculations, A Jupiter-sized Earth-like planet would have 76 532 500 000 TOTAL square miles of surface area. Divide that by 4 for oceans and you get 19 133 125 000 square miles, or less than .2% of the requirement. NSEarth is HUGE! Anyone else have anything on this?
I had thought about this briefly, but the math is way beyond me. As with most games, you have to suspend judgment on quite a number of things, including the size of the planet, obviously. :)

Maybe sim-people are very tiny? :p :p
Hey, yeah! That makes sense! Just think about how many *trillions* of insects are inhabiting Earth's surface right now...

(Not to say that your sim-citizens are insects, but... you get my drift.)

**desire to war with Franberry raised to 25%**

When SPORE/NS2 comes out, we'll remember you.
how about we RP it out?

and keep in mind, I RP my whole population, all 1.2 billion of them

I guess that might work, but NS2 would have to be in/past 2075 for technology to be at that level.

MP5's!

:mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:


And your use of that smiley says a lot about your intelligence level... :rolleyes:

NSEarth is a Dyson sphere, plus NSPeople are rather small.

NS is located on Larry Nivens ringworld. Plenty of room ;)

Wimpy. Make it a Dyson Sphere.

The population of NSEarth is more than 1.6 × 10^13 (16,000,000,000,000; or 16 TRILLION) people. Assuming NSEarth has one livable layer, it would have to have (assuming MAX population limit for the Earth is 25 billion people on 57.5 million sq miles of land) 92 TRILLION SQUARE MILES OF LAND (and it would have to grow daily). According to my calculations, A Jupiter-sized Earth-like planet would have 76 532 500 000 TOTAL square miles of surface area. Divide that by 4 for oceans and you get 19 133 125 000 square miles, or less than .2% of the requirement. NSEarth is HUGE! Anyone else have anything on this?
That's not a problem. It's not real.

If you can imagine that your little made up world even exists, then you can imagine that it's very big.

I play my nation as a Matrix type world. I have at most 1 billion people and over 5 billion computer programs who act as simulation. Since NS is on the net you could almost say that is matrix form.

Each person has their own matrix and is the architect.

how about we RP it out?

and keep in mind, I RP my whole population, all 1.2 billion of them

OK. Gather all your allies and meet me later. TG me when you're ready.

Hey, yeah! That makes sense! Just think about how many *trillions* of insects are inhabiting Earth's surface right now...

(Not to say that your sim-citizens are insects, but... you get my drift.)

There are 6.5B E. coli bacteria inside me right now... so they could be even smaller...

:sniper:

The planet grows with the population. The sun, however, is pissed.

The population of NSEarth is more than 1.6 × 10^13 (16,000,000,000,000; or 16 TRILLION) people. Assuming NSEarth has one livable layer, it would have to have (assuming MAX population limit for the Earth is 25 billion people on 57.5 million sq miles of land) 92 TRILLION SQUARE MILES OF LAND (and it would have to grow daily). According to my calculations, A Jupiter-sized Earth-like planet would have 76 532 500 000 TOTAL square miles of surface area. Divide that by 4 for oceans and you get 19 133 125 000 square miles, or less than .2% of the requirement. NSEarth is HUGE! Anyone else have anything on this?

Excuse me, you're standing on my head.

What if it were a ring world around the sun? I've forgotten the calculations on it, but ringworlds are frickin' enormous. think 1000 miles wide and the circumference of the earth's orbit.... that should do it I think.

Out of interest was there any actual point to this entire thread? Or was it just Minaris with way too much time on his/her hands.

Seriously dude, go out and meet people.

OK. Gather all your allies and meet me later. TG me when you're ready.

Just kiddin, man.

What if it were a ring world around the sun? I've forgotten the calculations on it, but ringworlds are frickin' enormous. think 1000 miles wide and the circumference of the earth's orbit.... that should do it I think.

Yeah. That could work...

The population of NSEarth is more than 1.6 × 10^13 (16,000,000,000,000; or 16 TRILLION) people. Assuming NSEarth has one livable layer, it would have to have (assuming MAX population limit for the Earth is 25 billion people on 57.5 million sq miles of land) 92 TRILLION SQUARE MILES OF LAND (and it would have to grow daily). According to my calculations, A Jupiter-sized Earth-like planet would have 76 532 500 000 TOTAL square miles of surface area. Divide that by 4 for oceans and you get 19 133 125 000 square miles, or less than .2% of the requirement. NSEarth is HUGE! Anyone else have anything on this?In a world where you can grab a bunch of helicopters to shift your multi billion person nation to another region, anything is possible.

The population of NSEarth is more than 1.6 × 10^13 (16,000,000,000,000; or 16 TRILLION) people. Assuming NSEarth has one livable layer, it would have to have (assuming MAX population limit for the Earth is 25 billion people on 57.5 million sq miles of land) 92 TRILLION SQUARE MILES OF LAND (and it would have to grow daily). According to my calculations, A Jupiter-sized Earth-like planet would have 76 532 500 000 TOTAL square miles of surface area. Divide that by 4 for oceans and you get 19 133 125 000 square miles, or less than .2% of the requirement. NSEarth is HUGE! Anyone else have anything on this?
well, our space program has already produced several space stations as well as sending off colinization ships. should our population still place a burden on our living styles...


well, there's always Soylant Green.

Just kill the worthless people...that would make a lot of room. :p

Just kill the worthless people...that would make a lot of room. :p
Ok. [ shoots you ] :D

Ok. [ shoots you ] :D
umm... Eut... you do realize that once you shoot all the worthless people, you'ld be out of a job, thus you'll become worthless and thus...



oh heck... [Shoots Eut]


damn, now I'm out of a job... [Shoots Self]

umm... Eut... you do realize that once you shoot all the worthless people, you'ld be out of a job, thus you'll become worthless and thus...
You'd just be killing hobos...minimum-wage-paid people have worth though others would deny it.

Look, clearly what we're looking at here is a quantam layer arrangement. Each country inhabits it's own dimension, on a normal sized earth. As it leaves it's borders, it passes through a seamless dimensional portal, which brings it into the dimension of whatever country and/or ocean borders it. See?
Absolutely. I find this to be the most plausible answer.