NationStates Jolt Archive

JUNEAU, Alaska — A judge on Monday struck down part of a new Alaska law criminalizing possession of small amounts of marijuana, saying it conflicts with past decisions by the Alaska Supreme Court.

Under the ruling, people could legally possess less than an ounce of marijuana in their homes.

The state was expected to quickly appeal to the high court.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,202893,00.html

Winters are long there... the judge was probably weighing the ounce against the increase in axe murders.

Just a cool judge who enjoys a toke once in a while ?

We can hope right ?

We need some more of them .

Just a cool judge who enjoys a toke once in a while ?

We can hope right ?

We need some more of them .


I would be happier if that Judge got removed from the bench.

I would be happier if that Judge got removed from the bench.

Why? If he was following AK legal precedent?

I would be happier if that Judge got removed from the bench.

And I would be happier if it was a little warmer and a few months earlier

And I would be happier if it was a little warmer and a few months earlier



And I would be happier if it was a little colder and a few months later. :D

And I would be happier if it was a little colder and a few months later. :D

... lets call the whole thing off

... lets call the whole thing off



Ok. I couldn't resist.


But I am not a pot supporter. I have seen people high after smoking weed, not a pretty sight.

Just one "weed-y" judge or a "pot-ential" sign that the entire judicial system is going "pot-ty"! I dont know how you feel, but im not sure i can "toke" much more of these liberal judges' drug decisions :D *runs away before he is "stoned" to death as a punishment for this post*

Just one "weed-y" judge or a "pot-ential" sign that the entire judicial system is going "pot-ty"! I dont know how you feel, but im not sure i can "toke" much more of these liberal judges' drug decisions :D *runs away before he is "stoned" to death as a punishment for this post*


Too many bad puns..........:eek: :eek: :eek:

Too many bad puns..........:eek: :eek: :eek:

How can you ever have too much of something so wonderful :p

Im sorry thread...i didnt mean to kill you!

I would be happier if that Judge got removed from the bench.
Why?

Cannabis is no worse for you than tobacco or alcohol, and those are legally available.

Making cannabis legal and taxed might bring a few quid into the US economy, as well as giving people the chance to do what is, for some, an every day activity without fear.

Why?

Cannabis is no worse for you than tobacco or alcohol, and those are legally available.

Making cannabis legal and taxed might bring a few quid into the US economy, as well as giving people the chance to do what is, for some, an every day activity without fear.


Tobacco should be outlawed, I am a supporter of banning cigs nationwide. My main concern is not money, its the health of the people and other more important things.

Tobacco should be outlawed, I am a supporter of banning cigs nationwide.

Why do you hate freedom?

they're in Alaska for gods sake... they need something to help them thru the depression.

Ok. I couldn't resist.


But I am not a pot supporter. I have seen people high after smoking weed, not a pretty sight.

I find people laughing and enjoying themselves a pretty sight except for the red eye.

Tobacco should be outlawed, I am a supporter of banning cigs nationwide. My main concern is not money, its the health of the people and other more important things.

True, because as we all know, it is the right of the government to ensure I make the proper choices about my health.

Except....not.

Try again, my body, my right. If I want to take on the associated health risks, my choice.

I think I'm the only person on this forum who would like to weed be criminalised even more.............

I think I'm the only person on this forum who would like to weed be criminalised even more.............

Same question: Why do you hate freedom?

I think I'm the only person on this forum who would like to weed be criminalised even more.............

Under what justification?

I think I'm the only person on this forum who would like to weed be criminalised even more.............
I heard there was still a few empty beds in some prisons.

Tobacco should be outlawed, I am a supporter of banning cigs nationwide. My main concern is not money, its the health of the people and other more important things.

what more important things? lol

why should I be forced to live by someone elses standards anyway? You really do hate people having the freedom to live their lives how they choose and hurt themselves even when it doesnt infringe on anyone elses right to do the same?

I know you hate living in the US, so please move to Saudi Arabia as I think their policies would be most favourable to you.

why should I be forced to live by someone elses standards anyway?

Because you just don't know what's best for you. Only the government can know that.

I heard there was still a few empty beds in some prisons.

I heard that in California they are running at double capacity. Isn't that insane?

Why do you hate freedom?



Cigs cause lung cancer and second smoke kills people who don't even smoke......Why should cigs be allowed?

Cigs cause lung cancer and second smoke kills people who don't even smoke......Why should cigs be allowed?

Same argument could be made against motor vehicles, which pump far more toxins into the air than all the smokers in the world combined.

Once again ... why do you hate freedom?

I think I'm the only person on this forum who would like to weed be criminalised even more.............



You thought wrong. I do to.

Because you just don't know what's best for you. Only the government can know that.

I'm so glad that the govt. cares so much about me that they want me to live a miserable life. How could I NOT be patriotic? With a govt like this, who needs enemies?

With a govt like this, who needs enemies?

We're glad you agree. The companies will be very pleased.

Same argument could be made against motor vehicles, which pump far more toxins into the air than all the smokers in the world combined.

Once again ... why do you hate freedom?



That why do you hate freedom thing is annoying and old. Please come back when you have something else to say.


Clean burning fuels. Which I also support, unless that makes me hate freedom to.:rolleyes:

Cigs cause lung cancer and second smoke kills people who don't even smoke......Why should cigs be allowed?

Because people do want to die out of lung cancer for the pleasure cigs give to them. You say that you are worried about the well being of the rest of the world, but you really only care to make things your way, and to force others to do whatever you want them to do, and not do whatever you find unpleasant.

Your hipocrisy is rampant and blatant...It's like the fifth thread with the same argument over and over. "I care for others so they cannot do whatever they want but what I would like them to do". Meh.

We're glad you agree. The companies will be very pleased.



Yeah, the greedy tabacco companies that lie to the public.

We're glad you agree. The companies will be very pleased.


I just hope that I can fit enough corporate logo tattoos on the limited amount of skin I have.

*wonders if getting a tattoo of the Republican elephant directly on his heart would be possible*

That why do you hate freedom thing is annoying and old. Please come back when you have something else to say.

And apart from the outward imposition of your own personal preference...What's your alternative to personal freedom?

That why do you hate freedom thing is annoying and old. Please come back when you have something else to say.

You haven't answered the question. That's why I repeated it.

Clean burning fuels. Which I also support, unless that makes me hate freedom to.:rolleyes:

Kudos to you. That doesn't change anything, though. The facts remain the facts. React to the world the way it is, not to the way you want it to be.

I heard that in California they are running at double capacity. Isn't that insane?
Nonviolent crime is really scary to some people.

Yeah, the greedy tabacco companies that lie to the public.

They don't lie to the public any more. Who do think *sponsors* all those "Truth" commericals?

Everyone with at least 2 brain cells know they're bad for you, yet people still smoke them. Same with eating lots of fatty foods and consuming massive quantities of booze.

Why? Freedom. That's why. Simple freedom. If I'm not supposed to do it, how come I can?

Nonviolent crime is really scary to some people.


I know... they might have to release tens of thousands of pot smokers into the streets early because they don't have room for them anymore!!!

:eek:

lock up your cupcakes!

I know... they might have to release tens of thousands of pot smokers into the streets early because they don't have room for them anymore!!!

:eek:

lock up your cupcakes!
Eat your doritos before they break down your door!

You haven't answered the question. That's why I repeated it.

Its not worth answering. Stop branding people who don't agree with you as enemies of freedom.



Kudos to you. That doesn't change anything, though. The facts remain the facts. React to the world the way it is, not to the way you want it to be.


This is an reaction. I see that something out there is harming the masses. It's only natural to want to get rid of it. I try to encourage people not to smoke and support getting rid of the industry. One day I hope to let people vote on banning cigs, not the governement but the people.

They don't lie to the public any more. Who do think *sponsors* all those "Truth" commericals?



I love those commercials. Big Tobacco really pulled a fantastic PR stunt w/ them.

Oh Lord, make my enemies rediculous.

-Voltaire

Yeah, the greedy tabacco companies that lie to the public.


what is your diet/lifestyle like?

truthfully now

do you do anything that is unhealthy at all?

do you drink soda? coffee? eat snack cakes? potato chips? do you ever take aspirin? tylenol?

They don't lie to the public any more. Who do think *sponsors* all those "Truth" commericals?

Everyone with at least 2 brain cells know they're bad for you, yet people still smoke them. Same with eating lots of fatty foods and consuming massive quantities of booze.

Why? Freedom. That's why. Simple freedom. If I'm not supposed to do it, how come I can?



Fatty foods are harmless as long as you don't over do it. That and they don't kill people around you who don't touch the stuff. Once again, encouarge the people to stop smoking and bankrupt the companies.

Its not worth answering. Stop branding people who don't agree with you as enemies of freedom.

If you're trying to take away my freedom, you are an enemy to my freedom.

If you're trying to take away my freedom, you are an enemy to my freedom.




This is going nowhere. Keep your filthy smoke away from people who don't smoke, just because you smoke doesn't mean somebody else should die for it.


I have to go to college now, I leave you to your ways.

This is going nowhere. Keep your filthy smoke away from people who don't smoke, just because you smoke doesn't mean somebody else should die for it.

Don't tell me what to do. As long as people keep their filthy car smoke around me, I'll light up where I damn well please.

I have to go to college now, I leave you to your ways.

Some of us already graduated. As for leaving me to my ways, if that were truly your attitude, this discussion wouldn't be happening.

Its not worth answering. Stop branding people who don't agree with you as enemies of freedom.






This is an reaction. I see that something out there is harming the masses. It's only natural to want to get rid of it. I try to encourage people not to smoke and support getting rid of the industry. One day I hope to let people vote on banning cigs, not the governement but the people.

bullshit - you want the govt to do it. you want harsher penalties for people who aren't Jack Lelane because they aren't living the healthiest lifestyle possible. what business is it of yours or the govts to stop people from hurting/killing themselves? WHy dont you believe people should have the freedom to live their lives how they want as long as they dont infringe ont eh rights of others dto do the same?

Just because you dont like seeing stoners? you think they look pathetic when they are stoned so you support harsh penalties against them?

I go6tta say I'm glad you are a nobody with no real powr but it's scary to think that there are some misguided Republicans in office that think the same way. *shudder*

Fatty foods are harmless as long as you don't over do it. That and they don't kill people around you who don't touch the stuff. Once again, encouarge the people to stop smoking and bankrupt the companies.


so then you support people doing what they want in their own homes as long as noone else gets hurt? You are changing your story.

Don't tell me what to do. As long as people keep their filthy car smoke around me, I'll light up where I damn well please.



Why do you hate life? Nobody should have to die for somebody elses bad habit. Thats why its banned in most public areas.

Eat your doritos before they break down your door!


you mean as they lazily knock at your door and then forget what they were there for when you answer.

you mean as they lazily knock at your door and then forget what they were there for when you answer.

A stoner will forget alot of things but never food

My main concern is not money, its the health of the people and other more important things.And exactly what health problems are you hoping to prevent by banning marijuana?

In the largest study ever conducted, pot smokers were no more likely than non-smokers to get the cancers caused by cigarette smoking... so it would appear that the worst effects are potential shortness of breath and a slightly increased risk of lung problems like pneumonia.

In other words, smoking grass is about as harmful to your health as... well, smoking grass. ;)

You may as well ban every other common herb that people sometimes like to smoke -- which would be, well, pretty much all of them.

I guess our chefs will just have to make do without any spices... :rolleyes:

Why do you hate life? Nobody should have to die for somebody elses bad habit. Thats why its banned in most public areas.


this thread is about pot smoke not cigg smoke. pot smoke has been shown to be safe. you can't die from second hand or first hand pot smoke.

you never see it in public... so what problem do you have with it?

let me guess, you will ignore this question too.

Why do you hate life?

I don't. However, everyone has the freedom to hold their breath when I smoke.

pot smoke has been shown to be safe.

Say what now? I don't think that inhaling any kind of smoke is safe, no matter what was burned to produce it.

Say what now? I don't think that inhaling any kind of smoke is safe, no matter what was burned to produce it.
Find a medical complication that was caused by marijuana. I only heard of one, a Jamaican who smoked a pack (20) of joints a day from the age of 12 until he died when he was in his thirties.

Find a medical complication that was caused by marijuana. I only heard of one, a Jamaican who smoked a pack (20) of joints a day from the age of 12 until he died when he was in his thirties.

Was that when Bob Marley died of 7 types of cancer?

Find a medical complication that was caused by marijuana. I only heard of one, a Jamaican who smoked a pack (20) of joints a day from the age of 12 until he died when he was in his thirties.

I'm not saying that marijuana smoke is worse than any other. I just don't think that all the particulates and carbon monoxide in any kind of smoke contribute to one's health.

Marijuana - Negative effects of smoking marijuana include lapses of attention, disturbed thought patterns, bloodshot eyes, increased appetite, increased heart-rate (from 80 beats per minute to 130+), marked sensory distortion, muscular weakness, decrements in hand steadiness, drying of the eyes and nasal passages, dryness of the mouth, throat irritation and coughing during smoking, and increased urination.

Some harsher effects of marijuana usage include short-term memory loss, increase in anxiety and aggressiveness, nausea, vomiting, dizziness, panic reactions, absence of conventional motivation, weakness, headache, backache, loss of control, depression, and irritability. A small percentage of first-time users will experience psychotic reactions.

Sleep is the usual response of marijuana overdose. The only notable long-term physical effects of this drug are bronchitis and asthma, but research on these is still being done. Physical dependence of marijuana has not been demonstrated, however, research done by Dr. Herbert D. Kleber, at Columbia University indicates that marijuana frequently functions as a gateway drug, contributing to many users eventually moving from marijuana to the use of hard drugs like cocaine. To see a 2003 study by Lynskey, et al supporting this claim described in the Journal for the American Medical Association, click here.

For a balanced discussion of the medical marijuana debate, click here.
http://www.ceustation.com/complication.html

The more serious effects talked about here are still being debated to this day.

I'm not saying that marijuana smoke is worse than any other. I just don't think that all the particulates and carbon monoxide in any kind of smoke contribute to one's health.


yes I didnt mean to say it benefitted anyones health.. just that it's safe to smoke without worry of medical complications. at least thats what studies are saying.

I personally vaporize so I dont get that particulate matter either.

yes I didnt mean to say it benefitted anyones health.. just that it's safe to smoke without worry of medical complications. at least thats what studies are saying.

I personally vaporize so I dont get that particulate matter either.

How do you mean? All smoke contains particulates.

Say what now? I don't think that inhaling any kind of smoke is safe, no matter what was burned to produce it."Safe" may go a little far -- but hardly anything is "safe."

When it comes to banning something, however, government should at least weigh the extent of the harm against the violation of freedom... and the conditions to which pot-smoking contribute hardly justify a ban on the substance.

Especially when many people use it in cooking, as well! Mmm... brownies....

Find a medical complication that was caused by marijuana. I only heard of one, a Jamaican who smoked a pack (20) of joints a day from the age of 12 until he died when he was in his thirties.If you're thinking of Bob Marley...

He died of skin cancer, which spread to other parts of his body. I don't think even cigarettes have been linked to skin cancer, so it would be a difficult charge indeed to claim that pot smoke caused the disease.

:rolleyes:

Yay Alaska. Fight the good fight.

How do you mean? All smoke contains particulates.
He was referring to inhaling THC by vaporization of the drug.

A vaporizor does not ignite any of the plant matter, so it does not include any particulates.

If you're thinking of Bob Marley...

He died of skin cancer, which spread to other parts of his body. I don't think even cigarettes have been linked to skin cancer, so it would be a difficult charge indeed to claim that pot smoke caused the disease.

:rolleyes:
I wasn't thinking of Bob Marley. It was some taxi driver. I did a research paper about a decade ago in high school. It was the only death attributed directly to pot ever.

I probably wouldn't want to ban it if it were already legal. However, I don't see much point in making it legal except for certain sick people. Potheads annoy the hell out of me and it smells god awful. If they're going to legalize pot, they also need to give me the right to smack potheads upside the head anytime I want. I would hate to have a country full of forgetful, stupid, smelly people. I do hate cigarettes more but I think they're both incredibly useless. Atleast wine is supposed to be good for your heart(in moderation).

Alaskans need something to do other than harpooning animals, crab fishing and ice fishing.

How do you mean? All smoke contains particulates.


Vaporizing doesn't burn anything and therefore does not create smoke. A heating element allows you to suck hot air thru the vegetable matter which draws the water vapor (THC comes along with it) out of the pot allowing for a nice refreshing blast of stony goodness.

the now brown vegetable matter can be smoked afterwards for a very mild high (you need about a joints worth per person though). I only smoke that crap if I want to get high and have been unable to hook up.

I wasn't thinking of Bob Marley. It was some taxi driver. I did a research paper about a decade ago in high school. It was the only death attributed directly to pot ever.I would certainly like a reference... I would enjoy reading about how a disease could be linked to a behavior in one case, but no others.

That's not exactly scientific. Indeed, no respectable scientist would ever claim that a common behavior "caused" a disease in only one case.

From what did he die, exactly?

Vaporizing doesn't burn anything and therefore does not create smoke. A heating element allows you to suck hot air thru the vegetable matter which draws the water vapor (THC comes along with it) out of the pot allowing for a nice refreshing blast of stony goodness.

the now brown vegetable matter can be smoked afterwards for a very mild high (you need about a joints worth per person though). I only smoke that crap if I want to get high and have been unable to hook up.
ew, that doesn't even sound worth it

I would certainly like a reference... I would enjoy reading about how a disease could be linked to a behavior in one case, but no others.

That's not exactly scientific. Indeed, no respectable scientist would ever claim that a common behavior "caused" a disease in only one case.

From what did he die, exactly?
Heart Attack. Don't have a reference. Sorry. I could be making it up for all you know. But I'm not. But that is hardly the point I was trying to make. I can guess that one death in the population of the entire world attributed to marijuana odds-wise would be some ungodly number and, if I'm lying to you, 0 deaths is a larger ungodly number.

Vaporizing doesn't burn anything and therefore does not create smoke. A heating element allows you to suck hot air thru the vegetable matter which draws the water vapor (THC comes along with it) out of the pot allowing for a nice refreshing blast of stony goodness.

the now brown vegetable matter can be smoked afterwards for a very mild high (you need about a joints worth per person though). I only smoke that crap if I want to get high and have been unable to hook up.
A friend of mine has one of those volcano thingies...fucking fantastic...

It's only a "victory" if you're one of the very few who support this loony and quite absurd idea.

ew, that doesn't even sound worth it


what doesnt sound worth it? Vaporizing or smoking the post-vaped?

Vaporizing is soooo worth it because every hit tastes delicious (but especially the first) and I seem to get higher but not as sleepy. Dunno why.

The post-vaped joints aren't good tasting at all but it's nice to have if you've been dry for a long time. It's like smoking a cigarette but better.

A friend of mine has one of those volcano thingies...fucking fantastic...

never tried those. I have a Vaporbrothers myself and it's become a necessity in my life. WHen the heating element broke and I had to go back to burning, it was sorta unpleasant. The high was great but I could feel a distinct difference in my lungs.

what doesnt sound worth it? Vaporizing or smoking the post-vaped?

Vaporizing is soooo worth it because every hit tastes delicious (but especially the first) and I seem to get higher but not as sleepy. Dunno why.

The post-vaped joints aren't good tasting at all but it's nice to have if you've been dry for a long time. It's like smoking a cigarette but better.
That must be it then, I don't like cigs, I think they taste really bad. Actually, there was this strawberry one that I had once and it was pretty good, everything else was awful.

Heart Attack. Don't have a reference. Sorry. I could be making it up for all you know. But I'm not.Oh, I'm not accusing you of lying! But, if this story is out there, I would much prefer to evaluate the evidence for myself... especially in case someone brings it up to argue, contra yourself, that marijuana is a "killer."

But that is hardly the point I was trying to make. I can guess that one death in the population of the entire world attributed to marijuana odds-wise would be some ungodly number and, if I'm lying to you, 0 deaths is a larger ungodly number.Yep.

I'd still like to try to find this guy... I guess it's off to Google for me!

(Do you happen to recall where this occurred, even roughly? Could make a helpful search term!)

Oh, I'm not accusing you of lying! But, if this story is out there, I would much prefer to evaluate the evidence for myself... especially in case someone brings it up to argue, contra yourself, that marijuana is a "killer."

Yep.

I'd still like to try to find this guy... I guess it's off to Google for me!

(Do you happen to recall where this occurred, even roughly? Could make a helpful search term!)
No idea. I wrote the paper when I was like 17 in eleventh grade.

Potheads annoy the hell out of me and it smells god awful. If they're going to legalize pot, they also need to give me the right to smack potheads upside the head anytime I want. I would hate to have a country full of forgetful, stupid, smelly people.

Strange, but I was just saying that exact same thing to a friend of mine about Republicans. Hrmm ...

Strange, but I was just saying that exact same thing to a friend of mine about Republicans. Hrmm ...I wish you were funny. :(

I wish you were funny. :(


he is, that's why so many of us have his funnyness in our signatures.

*slaps you upside the head*

damn stupid, smelly, forgetful Republicans. :p

and I have seen people blitzed on alcohol. an even uglier sight.

he is, that's why so many of us have his funnyness in our signatures.

*slaps you upside the head*

damn stupid, smelly, forgetful Republicans. :p
No, remember, Democrats are victims living in the projects so they obviously smell and have no education. This is, ofcourse society's fault.

If that was supposed to be funny, he lost his touch.

I refuse to be smacked by a pothead. :mad: Your reaction time is off, I'm already somewhere else.

No, remember, Democrats are victims living in the projects so they obviously smell and have no education. This is, ofcourse society's fault.

If that was supposed to be funny, he lost his touch.

I refuse to be smacked by a pothead. :mad: Your reaction time is off, I'm already somewhere else.

No Democrats and Republicans are both out of touch with reality as a party and they both smell of corruption.

Regarding education, most professors are politically liberal - go figure ;)
This is of course Republicans faults for all being hicks. (since you love to generalize)

*blows pot smoke in your face* *another smack upside the head* :D

No Democrats and Republicans are both out of touch with reality as a party and they both smell of corruption.

Regarding education, most professors are politically liberal - go figure ;)
This is of course Republicans faults for all being hicks. (since you love to generalize)

*blows pot smoke in your face* *another smack upside the head* :D
I know that most professors are liberal. There isn't necessarily consistancy in the work force except for that, because blue collar and white collar workers are both republican and democrat. Liberals teach the classes but the students aren't liberal? wierd. "This is, ofcourse society's fault. " There's no way in hell I was being facetious with my comments. :D

*gags and vomits in your face* You still can't smack me, you're too busy contemplating the function of a hand.

I wish you were funny. :(
Oh dry up, like "I want to hit the smelly silly pot heads" was the height of wit. Specoli is a character in a movie, just like Superman. Shake it off.

Oh dry up, like "I want to hit the smelly silly pot heads" was the height of wit. Specoli is a character in a movie, just like Superman. Shake it off.
Who the hell said anything about being witty? I really do want to. Oh you're right, there's only one pothead in the world that's like that. Before you say anything, yes, I do know a lot of intelligent people who smoke. They just don't seem all that intelligent when they're smoking.

I know that most professors are liberal. There isn't necessarily consistancy in the work force except for that, because blue collar and white collar workers are both republican and democrat. Liberals teach the classes but the students aren't liberal? wierd. "This is, ofcourse society's fault. " There's no way in hell I was being facetious with my comments. :D

*gags and vomits in your face* You still can't smack me, you're too busy contemplating the function of a hand.


exactly - exept you couldnt take a joke that was made at the expense of your irrational hateful remarks toward stoners.

Don't start a vomit war you can't win *drinks liposuctioned fat and chases you*

whoa, my fingers totally bend and stuff.

exactly - exept you couldnt take a joke that was made at the expense of your irrational hateful remarks toward stoners. Irrational? not one bit. It'd be irrational if I made these comments without knowing any potheads. Potheads are also different from people who just smoke pot every now and then. I have no problem with those people. Hateful? I don't hate them, I hate what they do and how they act. About not being able to take a joke, I said something like "too bad you're not funny". Ohhhhh, that was horrible! I do hope that he recovers from that scathing attack.

Don't start a vomit war you can't win *drinks liposuctioned fat and chases you*

whoa, my fingers totally bend and stuff. If you're drinking that, I think that's punishment enough, geez. Here comes the bile.

Irrational? not one bit. It'd be irrational if I made these comments without knowing any potheads. Potheads are also different from people who just smoke pot every now and then. I have no problem with those people. Hateful? I don't hate them, I hate what they do and how they act.

If you're drinking that, I think that's punishment enough, geez. Here comes the bile.

very irrational to generalize like that- I know a conservative republican contracter who is a heavy smoker. a big time pot head who smokes at least 10 joints a day of the best weed I have ever had. he's the hardest worker I know and very smart.

If you can get pure ganga it isn't as bad as cigs or alcohol. =\

very irrational to generalize like that- I know a conservative republican contracter who is a heavy smoker. a big time pot head who smokes at least 10 joints a day of the best weed I have ever had. he's the hardest worker I know and very smart.
"Before you say anything, yes, I do know a lot of intelligent people who smoke." I know it wasn't addressed to you but it might as well have been. If I see behavior that is pretty much consistant in the potheads that I've met and heard about but only 1 or 2 are different, you don't think that they could possibly be the exception? I'm not even going to pretend that anything is absolute but I have a damn good reason to believe what I believe.

Cigs cause lung cancer and second smoke kills people who don't even smoke......Why should cigs be allowed?
Because if I didn't have a cigarette right now, my neighbor would currently have his head shoved through the trampoline he has been jumping on for the last 4 hours while I was trying to sleep.

see? Not smoking is far more hazardous to other peoples health than me smoking is to my own.

as for being on topic, yay Alaska!

and go figure, Alaska is typically a republican state. Yay for not running with stereotypes!

Because people do want to die out of lung cancer for the pleasure cigs give to them. You say that you are worried about the well being of the rest of the world, but you really only care to make things your way, and to force others to do whatever you want them to do, and not do whatever you find unpleasant.

Your hipocrisy is rampant and blatant...It's like the fifth thread with the same argument over and over. "I care for others so they cannot do whatever they want but what I would like them to do". Meh.


Unless of course if they want to own firearms .:D

sorry aelosia...couldnt resist .

No, remember, Democrats are victims living in the projects so they obviously smell and have no education. This is, ofcourse society's fault.


Odd that you'd automatically assume me to be a Democrat. Very odd indeed.

As for what's funny, we've seen what Republicans think is funny ...

Things like Ann Coulter saying, "What we should do is create a virus that renders all non-Christians sterile!" is a "joke" to Republicans. Yuk it up.

At least my humor isn't about killing, torturing, raping, and dehumanizing people.

Its not worth answering. Stop branding people who don't agree with you as enemies of freedom.






This is an reaction. I see that something out there is harming the masses. It's only natural to want to get rid of it. I try to encourage people not to smoke and support getting rid of the industry. One day I hope to let people vote on banning cigs, not the governement but the people.

They can vote right now . They simply have to not buy or choose to NOT smoke .

Why do you feel the need to be a nazi and regulate someones behavior other than your own ? Will you next ban sky diving ? Driving ? walking accross a busy street ? swimming ? fishing and boating ? standing outside in a thunder storm ?

what else is on your list of freedoms that you would deny OTHERS ?

what else is on your list of freedoms that you would deny OTHERS ?

Sleep. Do you know how many people, from infancy to the elderly, die in their sleep every day?!

I think it might be nice to die in your sleep . Dying while you are awake must suck . I guess i'll have to fire up a bowl and think on that for a while .

Unless of course if they want to own firearms .:D

sorry aelosia...couldnt resist .

:D touché

Although I never said I wanted gun control for the greater good of humanity, but for own safety :D

Tobacco should be outlawed, I am a supporter of banning cigs nationwide. My main concern is not money, its the health of the people and other more important things.
That sets a far too dangerous precedent for comfort.....

Winters are long there... the judge was probably weighing the ounce against the increase in axe murders.
ah, the cure for "cabin fever"

I don't. However, everyone has the freedom to hold their breath when I smoke.


.......(The same way everyone has the right to put a brick over you're head when you smoke too.)

Personally? It's a disgusting habit. Politically? Stop wasting our money, if these idiots want to kill themselves let them, just pull funding for medical care for anyone who takes it. Or everyone period.

Was it seriously legal to possess 4 ounces? Has it ever been legal to sell? I know there are places where pot is treated very mildly, like a parking ticket, but I didn't think there was anywhere in the U.S. where it was actually legal.

Was it seriously legal to possess 4 ounces? Has it ever been legal to sell? I know there are places where pot is treated very mildly, like a parking ticket, but I didn't think there was anywhere in the U.S. where it was actually legal.
You have to grow your own there. No selling involved.

You have to grow your own there. No selling involved.What confuses me is that the federal government managed to override California's legalization of medical marijuana... yet somehow this slips through?

Seriously, what gives?

What confuses me is that the federal government managed to override California's legalization of medical marijuana... yet somehow this slips through?

Seriously, what gives?
It's Alaska. :p

Ok. I couldn't resist.


But I am not a pot supporter. I have seen people high after smoking weed, not a pretty sight.


Just wait until you see people drunk.. Now that isn't a pretty sight.

JUNEAU, Alaska — A judge on Monday struck down part of a new Alaska law criminalizing possession of small amounts of marijuana, saying it conflicts with past decisions by the Alaska Supreme Court.

Under the ruling, people could legally possess less than an ounce of marijuana in their homes.

The state was expected to quickly appeal to the high court.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,202893,00.html
Doesn't matter. Federal law trumps.