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As of now 7 people (6 tourists) were killed in a concerted grenade attack in Srinagar, Kashmir and 63 dead and counting in serial blasts in Mumbai trains.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1729980.cms
MUMBAI: On a day when Srinagar saw six blasts in the morning, Mumbai was shaken by three explosions in quick succession on Tuesday evening.

The target was clearly the evening rush on the city's local trains. The first blast occured in a first-class compartment of a local train near Khar station. The train was going from Churchgate to Borivili.

The second blast took place soon after at Mira road station, while the third occured at Matunga station.

Reports said the Khar blast blew the train compartment to pieces. But there were no early reports of casualties, but several people were reported to have been injured.

Now it is being reported that there were 7 blasts in Mumbai.

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-07-11T135529Z_01_BOM186676_RTRUKOC_0_UK-INDIA-BLAST.xml
Blasts on trains in Mumbai kill at least 15
Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:55 PM BST

MUMBAI (Reuters) - Explosions hit at least four packed commuter trains during the rush hour on Tuesday in India's financial hub, Mumbai, officials said.

The local CNN-IBN news channel said at least 15 people were killed in one of the blasts at Matunga station in central Mumbai.

"The blasts happened when the trains were most crowded," D.K Shankaran, chief secretary of the state of Maharashtra, of which Mumbai is the capital said. "Ten to 15 people have been injured."

One television channel showed more than half-a-dozen injured people near the site of another blast in the Khar suburban station of Mumbai. One badly injured person lying near railway tracks was carried away by people using a long sheet of cloth.

Police officials said two more explosions took place in the Santa Cruz and Mahim suburbs of the city.

CNN-IBN reported a fifth blast had taken place but there was no official confirmation.

Dazed survivors were shown with wounds from injuries to heads, legs and hands on the railway station with little sign of any emergency medical aid.

The Mumbai blasts came just hours after suspected Islamist militants killed seven people, six of them tourists, in a series of grenade attacks in Indian Kashmir's main city, Srinagar, police said, the most concerted targeting of civilians in months.

http://in.rediff.com/news/2006/jul/11train.htm
Serial blasts halt Mumbai's Western Railway

A Correspondent | July 11, 2006 | 19:03 IST

Seven blasts rocked suburban trains in Mumbai on Tuesday evening, Police Commissioner A N Roy has announced. Police control has reported 63 passengers have been killed in the blasts, and 400 injured. PTI reports that the blasts took place in a span of 30 minutes in first class compartmenets of suburban trains.

As the blasts ripped apart train compartments, mangled bodies of passengers were hurled out and survivors, many of them bleeding profusely, jostled to come out, leading to chaotic scenes. The blasts occured between 6 pm and 6.30�pm at Matunga, Mahim (central Mumbai), Bandra, Khar (in north-west Mumbai), Borivili, Jogeshwari and Mira Road railway stations (in north Mumbai).

Rediff.com's Syed Firdaus Ashraf, who was at Mahim railway station soon after reports of the blast came in, said he could see one train compartment was completely blown up in the explosion, and people were carrying bodies away. Commuters said an explosion went off in the men's first class compartment on a Western Railway local, which left Churgate station in South Mumbai at 1754, as it was leaving Mahim station on track 3 at around 1820 hours.

A fire brigade official who came on the scene later said he believes that more than 25 injured were removed from the bombed out compartment.

Advocate Chandrakant Dalvi, who was travelling to his home in Dahisar by this compartment, was sitting on the tracks in a daze when rediff.com's reporters met him. He said he could not hear anything in his left ear. He had already got in touch with his relatives to say he was safe, but�he had not told them that he was on the train. The fire brigade personnel were sending him to the nearest hospital for a check-up. He said he would take a cab and go home.

Around the tracks seat-cushioning material was lying around, among chappals and shoes and bags. Luggage removed from the compartment was lying on the other side.

Outside the station the road had been cordoned off and two fire engines were posted. But onlookers could view the wreckage from the footbridge and the road.

Two local trains were halted on either side of the bombed train and there was a rush of people leaving the station who were hitching rides home with lorries and tempos.

TV channel CNN-IBN was reporting that atleast 15 people were killed in the Matunga/Mahim blast.

The Western Railway has suspended its suburban services soon after the blasts. Local telephone lines were jammed as panic-stricken commuters called their near and dear ones to alert them of the blasts. Commuters said there was no sign of the police even 30 minutes after the blasts.

A PTI reporter at Santa Cruz station said a blast rocked a Borivali-bound local at 1824 hours, and seven to eight injured commuters jumped out of the speeding train in panic.�

At least 10 bodies were brought to the KEM Hospital in central Mumbai, and another 20 seriously injured people were admitted to it.

A few more injured were reportedly taken to the government hospital at Sion in central Mumbai, Bhabha Hospital and V N Desai Hospital from the blast sites in western Mumbai suburbs, hospital sources said.

The police have cordoned off all railway stations on the Western line and strict frisking and checking was being carried out at the Central and Harbour sections of local train services.

Police suspect that it is a pre-planned subversive plot similar to the explosions that had rocked Mumbai in 1993, 2002 and 2003.

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http://ia.rediff.com/news/2006/jul/11train1.htm?q=tp&file=.htm
Mumbai blasts: An eyewitness account

July 11, 2006 20:22 IST

An explosion went off in the men's first class compartment on a Western railway local which left Churchgate at 1754 hrs as it was leaving the Mahim station on track 3 at around 6.20 pm.

A file brigade official who came on the scene later said that he believes that more than 25 injured were removed from the bombed out compartment.

Advocate Chandrakant Dalvi, who was traveling in this compartment, was sitting on the tracks in a daze after the explosion. He said he could not hear anything in his left ear. He was travelling to Dahisar. He had already got in touch with his relatives to say he was safe. But he had not told them that he was on the train. The fire brigade personnel were sending him to the nearest hospital for a check-up. He said he would take a cab and go home.

The seat cushioning material was lying on the side of the tracks among chappals and shoes and bags. Luggage removed from the compartment was lying on the other side.

Nyal Chand, who was also on the train, said that all he saw was a bright orange spark and a loud bang. He says he saw a young man fall off the train due to the impact of the blast. He says people started jumping off the moving train. He says there were at least 15 casualties on that compartment.

Outside the station the road had been cordoned off and two fire engines were posted. But onlookers could view the wreckage from the footbridge and the road.

Two local trains were halted on either side of the bombed train and there was a rush of people leaving the station who were hitching rides home with lorries and tempos.




And India responds.
http://in.rediff.com/news/2006/jul/11look.htm

We are the only nation that pays for its own death.

Yes, I just saw this on CNN, horrible thing

and as to the "paying for its own death", what do you mean? the caption said that it was for eearthquake aid.

Just talked to a friend there. Says there might be 250+ dead.

India is not the only nation that pays for it's own death. Look at the US. We buy a shitload of oil from those who fund and encourage terrorism against us.

Having said that, my condolences go out to the Indian people. Musharraf had better get his shit straight. Pretty soon the US is going to get tired of the fact that he shelters al Qaeda and Taliban in the North of his country and India will have had enough of him sheltering groups like Lashkar-e- Tayyiba and Jaish-e-Mohammed.

Pakistani backed/Kashmiri militants?

Siete explosiones simultáneas en varios trenes de Bombay dejan más de cien muertos
Los ataques se han producido en vagones de primera clase de una línea interurbana de la capital financiera de India.

Más de cien personas han muerto y otras 300 se encuentran heridas en las siete explosiones simultáneas que se han producido hoy en una línea de tren de Bombay, la capital financiera de India. El número de víctimas puede seguir aumentando ya que las explosiones se han producido entre las 18.00 y las 18.30 (14.30 y 15.00 hora peninsular española), una hora en la que las estaciones estaban abarrotadas. La policía ha confirmado que se trata de un ataque terrorista y las autoridades han declarado el estado de alerta en Nueva Delhi y en Bombay.

La línea de tren afectada es una de las más utilizadas del mundo. Todas las explosiones se han producido en vagones de primera clase, de la línea férrea de Bombay, que ha sido posteriormente suspendida. Las estaciones afectadas son las de Khar, Mahim, Mira Road, Jogeshwari, Borivali, Matunga y Bandra. Todas ellas se encuentran ubicadas a las afueras de Bombay y son utilizadas cada día por miles de personas para desplazarse al centro de la ciudad.

Ante los ataques, el primer ministro indio ha pedido a la gente que intente mantener la calma y que esperen las fuentes oficiales. Aunque todavía no se han confirmado los autores materiales de estos ataques, las autoridades indias sospechan que detrás de estos atentados pueden estar los militantes musulmanes que han atacado en otras ocasiones en el país.

Las explosiones han provocado el caos en el metro de la ciudad y las líneas de teléfono se han colapsado. "Las explosiones se han producido cuando los trenes estaban abarrotados”, ha explicado el jefe del secretario de Estado de Maharashtra, cuya capital es Bombay.

Se trata del ataque más sanguinario que ha sufrido la capital financiera de India en los últimos tres años, después de que 50 personas murieran en agosto del 2003 en las explosiones simultáneas en varios hoteles de la ciudad. Además, unas 200 personas murieron en el peor accidente que ha sufrido la ciudad, en 1993, en unos centros comerciales.

Aunque se desconocen las causas de estos ataques, tanto Bombay, capital financiera de India, como Nueva Delhi, capital política, se encuentran ya en estado de alerta.

The main spanish newspaper talks about +100 deaths and 400 injured, nothing about Srinagar.

http://www.elpais.es/articulo/internacional/explosiones/simultaneas/varios/trenes/Bombay/dejan/muertos/elpporint/20060711elpepuint_7/Tes/

Too bad.

We are the only nation that pays for its own death.

Hey, the terrorists may not be related to Pakistan. This is like saying that Morocco organized the Madrid blasts or Saudi Arabia attacked New York.

BTW the count on the newspaper just grown to 130... maybe your freind was true.

Hey, the terrorists may not be related to Pakistan. This is like saying that Morocco organized the Madrid blasts or Saudi Arabia attacked New York.
its always the Pakistani when it comes to India

thats a fact

Pakistani backed/Kashmiri militants?

I am guessing LeT here. They have been the most aggressive, capable and brazen of all Packi jihadi orgs in attacking us.

Indigeneous Kashmiri jihadis like Hizbul Mujahideen etc, do not carry out and have never carried out attacks outside Kashmir. It is always the Packi Laskar e tayyiba or Jaish e Mohammed.

Of late LeT has been cultivating cells all over India, even with Naxalites (commie militants). There is plenty of reason to suspect them. There is also another group called SIMI (students Islamic movement of India) which may be involved in logistics etc.

Pics. Warning: Blood and gore may be there.

http://www.ibnlive.com/slideshow/view_slide_show.php?num=0&id=65

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/733385.html

Coincidence? I think not.

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/000200607112201.htm
137 dead, 230 wounded as series of blasts rock Mumbai trains

Mumbai, Jul 11 (PTI) At least 137 people were killed and 230 injured in a string of seven terror blasts thar tore through first class compartmenets of suburban trains around 6PM during the peak hour traffic here today.

As the blasts ripped apart train compartments, mangled bodies of passengers fell on the tracks and survivors, many of them bleeding profusely, jostled to come out leading to chaotic scenes.

The blasts occured between 6Pm and 6.30PM at Mahim, Bandra, Matunga, Borivili, Mira Road, Jogeshwari and Khar when people from offices were returning home.

Hospital authorities in the city have confirmed arrival of over 100 bodies by 8:30 pm. A large of injured people, including commuters of the blasts-hit trains were admitted to various government and private hospitals in various parts of the city.

Mumbai Police Chief A.N. Roy said ``We are busy in the rescue operation. Our first priority is to rescue the injured people,'' he said. However, heavy monsoon downpours were hampering the effort.(Reports AP)

Police were also reportedly carrying out raids across the country following the explosions, presumably in search of suspects. One television report said a suspect was in custody.

A senior Mumbai police official, P.S. Pasricha, said the explosions were part of a well-coordinated attack. The country's home minister told Indian television that authorities had information that an attack was coming but did not know the time or place.

Witnesses reported seeing body parts strewn about stations, and Indian television news channels broadcast footage of bystanders carrying victims to ambulances and searching through the wreckage for survivors and bodies. Some of the injured were seen frantically dialing their cell phones.

The force of the blasts ripped doors and windows off carriages, and luggage and debris were strewn about, splattered with blood. Survivors were seen clutching bloody bandages to their heads and faces. Some were able to get up and walk from the station on their own.

Pranay Prabhakar, the spokesman for the Western Railway, confirmed that seven blasts had taken place. He said all trains had been suspended in Mumbai, and he appealed to the public to stay away from the train stations of the city of 16 million, India's financial and commercial center and principal port on the Arabian sea.

There was no immediate claim of responsibility for what appeared to be bombings, but the blasts came in quick succession _ a common tactic employed by Kashmiri militants that have repeatedly targeted India's cities.

The first explosion hit the train at a railway station in the northwestern suburb of Khar, said a police officer who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media.

India's CNN-IBN television news, which had a reporter traveling on the train, said the blast took place in a first-class car as the train was moving, ripping through the compartment and killing more than a dozen people

The Press Trust of India, citing railway officials, said all the blasts had hit first-class cars.

All of India's major cities were reportedly on high alert following the attacks, which came hours after a series of grenade attacks by Islamic extremists killed eight people in the main city of India's part of Kashmir.

Kashmir was divided between India and Pakistan in war after they gained independence from Britain in 1947, and they fought another full-scale conflict over the region in 1965.

Dozens of militant groups have been fighting Indian rule in Kashmir, demanding the mostly Muslim region's independence, or its merger with Pakistan.

India accuses Pakistan of aiding the militants, who run training camps on Pakistan's of Kashmir. Pakistan denies the charge.

After coming close to fighting a fourth war in 2002, Pakistan and India embarked on a peace process aimed at resolving their differences, including their conflicting claims to all of Jammu-Kashmir.

Sonia, Lalu, Patil rush to Mumbai

Congress president Sonia Gandhi, Home Minister Shivraj Patil and Railway Minister Lalu Prasad will leave for Mumbai tonight for an on-the-spot review of the situation in the wake of the serial blasts.(Reports PTI)

The decision was announced by Patil after an hour-long emergency meeting convened by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh at his Race Course Road residence here.

"The toll may be around 50, may be more, may be less," he told reporters when asked about the number of those killed in the seven blasts.

As the blasts ripped apart train compartments, mangled bodies of passengers were hurled out and survivors, many of them bleeding profusely, jostled to come out leading to chaotic scenes.(Reports PTI)

The blasts occurred between 6 and 6.30 pm at Mahim, Bandra, Matunga, Borivili, Mira Road, Jogeshwari and Khar.

At Matunga station, the blast was so powerful that it not only ripped through the first class coach but also blew off a portion of the platform shed.

Bodies were scattered on the tracks while many injured, were attended to by fellow travellers on the platform before being rushed to nearby hospitals.

Police suspect that it is a pre-planned subversive plot similar to the explosions that had rocked Mumbai in 1993 and 2002 and 2003.

All suburban and long-distance trains on the Western railway lines were suspended and police cordoned off the major road intersections, railway stations and exit points.

A PTI staffer travelling by one of the affected suburban trains said the explosion took place in the first class compartment next to the one he was travelling in, ripping off the entire top of the compartment.

He saw a large number of injured being removed from the damaged compartment.

A PTI correspondent, who was waiting to catch a train at Santacruz railway station, saw an explosion in a train that was about to enter the station.

He reported that at least 25 people were injured in the blast that took place in the first class compartment.

Sudden heavy rains after an hour of the explosions made the job of rescuers difficult.

Confusion and fear prevailed among train commuters at all Western Railway stations as thousands could not make way to homes due to suspension of train services on the western line.

Passengers were asked to use central railway lines, that are functional, and BEST buses to reach their destinations.

However, passengers in a frenzy caught hold of any available four-wheeler, some times by force, at Churchgate station and other stations to get out of the commercial district.

Red alert in Maharashtra: CM

A red alert has been sounded in the state, Deshmukh said after reviewing security measures in the city and state.

Police in Mumbai have been placed on alert following the attacks, he said.

Deshmukh appealed to people to maintain calm and not venture out unless required.

The injured have been shifted to nearby hospitals, he said.

Stay calm, says police commissioner

Mumbai Police Commissioner A N Roy asserting that the first priority was to rescue the injured and rushing them to hospitals. Security has been tightened to see that nothing untoward takes place following the explosions.

"Our priority is also to ensure that nothing untoward takes place as a result of the blast," Roy told reporters here today.

Efforts were also being taken to run extra buses along the Western Railway route so that people could reach home. Western Railway route commuters could also take the Central Railway route for going home.

He asked the people to stay calm and not to go by any rumours.

To a question Roy said obviously a terrorist outfit would be behind the blasts because a normal human being could not have done this.

He said extra forces have been deployed in the city to ensure that no more incidents take place. Special arrangements were being made to transport people following the suspension of trains on the Western Railway route.

He again appealed to people not to go by rumours but help police in maintaining calm.

Centre keeping close watch on Mumbai situation

The Centre is in constant touch with Maharashtra Government in the wake of the serial blasts in suburban trains in Mumbai today and is closely monitoring the situation in the metropolis.

"We are closely watching the situation and gathering all information from railways and authorities in Mumbai," a senior Home Ministry official said and reiterated the Government's determination to fight terrorism.

Union Home Minister Shivraj Patil is in touch with Chief Minister Vilasrao Deshmukh.

A series of blasts took place at Matunga, Khar, Santacruz, Jogeshwari, Borivali and Bhayendar suburban railway stations earlier today.

We will defeat evil designs of terrorists: PM

In New Delhi, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh tonight reviewed the security situation in the aftermath of blasts in Mumbai and Srinagar after which he expressed the government's resolve to "fight and defeat the evil designs of terrorists".

He appealed to the people to maintain calm in the face of terror attacks in Mumbai and Srinagar after an emergency meeting at his residence with Home Minister Shivraj Patil and others.

"We will work to defeat the evil designs of terrorists and will not allow them to succeed," Singh said in a statement read out by Patil after the meeting which was also attended by National Security Advisor M K Narayanan, Home Secretary V K Duggal and IB Chief E S L Narasimham.

He appealed to the people to remain calm and not to believe in rumours but carryout their activities normally. "The government will take all possible measures to maintain law and order and defeat the forces of terrorism."

Security at all major airports tightened

Security at all airports across the country was beefed up tonight following the synchronised serial blasts in running trains in Mumbai.

Quick reaction teams of paramilitary forces have been deployed at major airports, especially in Mumbai, Delhi and other metros, official sources said here.

The number of CISF personnel on duty at major airports have also been increased, they said.

The sources said the personnel on duty have been asked to take all precautions and conduct all necessary security checks at the airports.

However, they said flight operations would not be affected by the heightened security measures.

Shiva Sena demands resignation of DF-govt.

Shiv Sena today demanded resignation of the Vilasrao Deshmukh-led DF government in Maharashtra for "its utter failure to maintain law and order in the state which is evident from inability to avert this evening's serial blasts".

"This government has no right to remain in power even for a moment. The government's incompetence is solely responsible for today's incident", Sena executive president Uddhav Thackeray said.

"When the spontaneous reaction was there to desecration of late Meenatai Thackeray bust, the government blamed it on Shiv Sainiks. It should now tell us who is resonsible for today's incident", he said.

CII expresses shock over Mumbai blasts

Apex industry chamber CII expressed shock at the bomb blasts that rocked Mumbai this evening and expressed hope that calm and peace will prevail over the city.

CII said it was "shocked and grieved at the bomb blasts."

"We pray for calm and peace and hope that the perpetrators will be brought to book," the chamber said.


Well, there you go. Jihadis carry out yet another outrageous attack. This is the third serial bomb blast attack on Mumbai in the space of 15 years. But going by the non-response of the govt of India after the first two attacks and after the innumerous attacks on the Indian nation and its people, we can be rest assured that nothing is going to happen after this attack.

The Prime Minister Manmohan Singh will say "This is a dastardly attack on our nation. We will prevail. Truth will triumph. But peace process must go on".

Musharraf will say "We condemn this attack. India must realise that we have nothing to do with this. I hope the peace process will not get affected by this tragic incident"

LeT chief Hafiz Mohd Saeed will say "We do not claim responsibilty for this attack" while thundering JIHAD!!! in a fundraising event in Muridke, Lahore.

The lefties will say "The communal politics of hindu hardline groups are to blame for this incident. The BJP is to be blamed."

The right wing hindu groups will say "see we told you so."

Meanwhile Mumbai will be back to normal in just a week with people going back to their routine...rush hour traffic...discussing Shah Rukh Khan's latest movie or Aishwarya Rai's little finger injury.

Nothing to worry folks. All will be well. The Indian society has a lot more capacity to absorb pain and ignore it and carry on as if nothing happened. After all, what's 250 odd lives in a billion.

*evidently, I am venting out in frustration...please bear with me...*

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/733385.html

Coincidence? I think not.

WTF has that go to do with this?

Israel-Palestine issue is a non-issue in India.

WTF has that go to do with this?

Israel-Palestine issue is a non-issue in India.

The Times of India newspaper reported that India's leftist factions led by the Communist party are urging their government to condemn what they termed as "Israel's brutal attacks on the Palestinians and their elected representatives."

The main purpose of his visit concerns mainly arms deals with Israel, and Mukharajee was to head a delegation of senior defense and arms industry officials. Israel is India's second-largest arms provider and purchasing contracts between the countries totaled in the last decade nearly $5 billion.

Did you even read the article?

Did you even read the article?

You are naive, to put it mildly.

Pakistani and Pakistani inspired terrorism against India has been going on from late 80s..even earlier if you consider Packi backed Khalistani terrorism in Punjab in the early 80s. At that time India did not even have full diplomatic relations with Israel. India opened full relations with Israel under the Narasimha Rao Congress govt only in early 90s.

The terrorist attacks in India are a bargaining tool for Pakistan regarding Kashmir. They have nothing to do with India's relationship with Israel.

India is still one of the very few countries which enjoys a good relationship with both the Israelis and Palestinians. India does support the idea of an independant Palestinian homeland with the exact borders worked out by bilateral talks between Israelis and Pals. Arafat even said publicly that India is his second home.

Commies and leftists of India would raise the usual noise with Israel. But they are not the ones who planted the bombs did they?


Here's a list of earlier terrorist attacks on India

http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/database/index.html

Let's see how many of these are related to India's relationship with Israel. That's right. NONE.

:headbang:

Pakistani and Pakistani inspired terrorism against India has been going on from late 80s..
NO WAI! You changed your posting style. The racist slurs... they're gone! :eek:

even earlier if you consider Packi backed Khalistani terrorism in Punjab in the early 80s.
No they're not. :rolleyes:

You know, ever since the very first day you started posting, you stuck in my mind on account of your persistent use of the term, and its defence, in spite of numerous people explaining to you that actually, it is quite offensive and Not Nice. And still you persist! Don't make me pull out a yellow card now...

I see nothing on the news channels.. what the hell?

Don't make me pull out a yellow card now...

Of course, I've got no authority around here whatsoever, but I couldn't resist posting this. :p

http://www.cnra.net/media/yellowCard.jpg

As of now 7 people (6 tourists) were killed in a concerted grenade attack in Srinagar, Kashmir and 63 dead and counting in serial blasts in Mumbai trains.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1729980.cms


Now it is being reported that there were 7 blasts in Mumbai.

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-07-11T135529Z_01_BOM186676_RTRUKOC_0_UK-INDIA-BLAST.xml

More atrocities that weren't committed by "real Muslims," of course.

You know, ever since the very first day you started posting, you stuck in my mind on account of your persistent use of the term, and its defence, in spite of numerous people explaining to you that actually, it is quite offensive and Not Nice.

Like how you have stuck on my mind on your persistant ignorance, inspite of me having explained to you about how it is not a racist word and just because stupid skinheads of UK use it in a racist way does not mean that people all over the world use it in that way...well whatever...you are the mod and what you say goes here...however stupid it is...

Anyways....

the P*** (TG, now don't tell me p*** is a racist word) jihadi org Lashkar e Tayyiba has claimed responsibility for the attack (according to the CNN-IBN channel)

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a5E2vQ0bwtWw&refer=home
The Lashkar-e-Taiba terrorist group, which seeks an end to Indian control of Jammu & Kashmir state, claimed responsibility, according to the CNN-IBN television channel.

Minor correction. LeT's objectives do not end with J&K. They seek to establish islamic rule over India. Says so in their charter.

http://www.saag.org/papers2/paper175.htm
The Lashkar and its political wing called the Markaz Dawa Al Irshad have for many years been calling for the expansion of the so-called jihad to the rest of India from Jammu & Kashmir for creating two independent homelands for the Muslims of South and North India. As a first step in this jihad, it had in the past called for intensified activities in Hyderabad and Junagadh, which it looks upon as Pakistani territory. The Red Fort, as the seat of the Muslim rulers of the past, is an important symbol in its eyes.

While reporting the Red Fort attack on December 22, 2000, sections of the foreign media described the Lashkar as a Kashmiri militant organisation. It is not. It is a Pakistani organisation based in Pakistan and operating from there. It is a member of Osama bin Laden's International Islamic Front For Jihad Against the US and Israel. The wrong perceptions abroad about this organisation need to be corrected vigorously.

More atrocities that weren't committed by "real Muslims," of course.

Isn't there a coffee shop you should be boycotting?

Like how you have stuck on my mind on your persistant ignorance, inspite of me having explained to you about how it is not a racist word and just because stupid skinheads of UK use it in a racist way does not mean that people all over the world use it in that way...well whatever...you are the mod and what you say goes here...however stupid it is...

Anyways....

the P*** (TG, now don't tell me p*** is a racist word) jihadi org Lashkar e Tayyiba has claimed responsibility for the attack (according to the CNN-IBN channel)
Take a week off and sort out your attitude. :rolleyes:

I do not give a damn what the common usage is somewhere else. This is a UK server. The vast majority of players are EU and US nationals. The local norms apply. You will conform.

More atrocities that weren't committed by "real Muslims," of course.

its the financial capital of india, as likely to be the Naxalites at this moment.

How about you and your little racist self wait and see how this pans out.

remember the madrid bombings. the initial spin was wrong etc?

its the financial capital of india, as likely to be the Naxalites at this moment.

How about you and your little racist self wait and see how this pans out.

remember the madrid bombings. the initial spin was wrong etc?

Yes, as a matter of fact I do remember the Madrid bombings. I said the bombers were Muslims, and I was right. Clearly you're in denial and looking for any reason not to blame the obvious suspects.

BTW: Islam is not a race, and opposition to Islamofascism is not "racism".

NO WAI! You changed your posting style. The racist slurs... they're gone! :eek:


No they're not. :rolleyes:

You know, ever since the very first day you started posting, you stuck in my mind on account of your persistent use of the term, and its defence, in spite of numerous people explaining to you that actually, it is quite offensive and Not Nice. And still you persist! Don't make me pull out a yellow card now...
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this.

Although I did notice he's changed the spelling from Paki to Packi. Maybe the 'c' makes it extra nice.

Yes, as a matter of fact I do remember the Madrid bombings. I said the bombers were Muslims, and I was right. Clearly you're in denial and looking for any reason not to blame the obvious suspects.

BTW: Islam is not a race, and opposition to Islamofascism is not "racism".

this could have been any number of groups.

there are a range of terrorist organisations in India with the previous and ability to perform an outrage like this. left wing, right wing, hindu, muslim, kashmiri, pakistani agents etc.

of course it probably was some form of islamicist group, but until someone either claims credit and or the cops get a line, your theories are pie in the sky. i brough madrid up because the initial suspects didnt do it. despite the right wing agendas at play

but you are a racist. you refuse to shop or eat in any business that employs someone you belive to be a muslim. insert jew or black in there and see how far you get. we are all opposed to 'islamofacism' as the neo-cons put it, and most of us were when the pentagon was arming them. but we somehow manage to avoid labelling all arabs terrorists.

My condolences.

Let's see what Musharraf has to say. I think Pakistan and India should sit down together and form a multinational anti-terror force to clean up Kashmir. I'm sure if they needed they could get help and money for it from the US and Europe.

But that would of course presume that neither side is benefitting from this constant trouble.

I'm still waiting for Muslims to come out and condemn this terrorist attack. Oh I forgot, I shouldn't expect it. When is the last time you saw Muslims go out and condemn these acts? I sure can't remember it. If there are so many moderates, then why am I not seeing them?

I'm still waiting for Muslims to come out and condemn this terrorist attack. Oh I forgot, I shouldn't expect it. When is the last time you saw Muslims go out and condemn these acts? I sure can't remember it. If there are so many moderates, then why am I not seeing them?
I'm still waiting for jews to condemn the Israeli policy of 'targeted' assassinations with high explosives. :rolleyes:

You are naive, to put it mildly.

Pakistani and Pakistani inspired terrorism against India has been going on from late 80s..even earlier if you consider Packi backed Khalistani terrorism in Punjab in the early 80s. At that time India did not even have full diplomatic relations with Israel. India opened full relations with Israel under the Narasimha Rao Congress govt only in early 90s.

The terrorist attacks in India are a bargaining tool for Pakistan regarding Kashmir. They have nothing to do with India's relationship with Israel.

India is still one of the very few countries which enjoys a good relationship with both the Israelis and Palestinians. India does support the idea of an independant Palestinian homeland with the exact borders worked out by bilateral talks between Israelis and Pals. Arafat even said publicly that India is his second home.

Commies and leftists of India would raise the usual noise with Israel. But they are not the ones who planted the bombs did they?


Here's a list of earlier terrorist attacks on India

http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/database/index.html

Let's see how many of these are related to India's relationship with Israel. That's right. NONE.

:headbang:


http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/PA_NEWB628441152629552A00?source=PA%20Feed

Usually militants who bomb shit dont deny that they did.

I'm still waiting for Muslims to come out and condemn this terrorist attack. Oh I forgot, I shouldn't expect it. When is the last time you saw Muslims go out and condemn these acts? I sure can't remember it. If there are so many moderates, then why am I not seeing them?

the leader of pakistan condemns it
http://www.indianmuslims.info/news/2006/july/11/muslim_world_news/musharraf_condemns_mumbai_blasts.html


here the presidents of Iran and Afghanistan
http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-239/0607122257124306.htm


thats three of the most muslim nations on earth condeming it in a 30 second google.

pathetic ignorance, do a little research you mong

The Wiki article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11_July_2006_Mumbai_train_bombings) states that Lashkar-e-Toiba is one of the terrorist groups that has condemned the bombings and rejected claims that it was behind the attacks. Granted, Wiki is not always the most reliable source of information, but it still seems odd that there would be reports that the group condemned the bombings and claimed to not be behind the bombings if it actually caused the bombings...

To be honest, this attack seems to have the hallmarks of other attacks directly linked to al-Qaeda - synchronized attacks on a major means of transportation in a financial hub during rush hour. It does seem a little early for al-Qaeda to try something major (I was expecting a November attack), but India's proximity to al-Qaeda base territory could be a factor.

Al-Qaeda tends to take its time when it comes to claiming responsibility, because they generally do not do this sort of thing to gain political influence. Boasts and claims of responsibility make sense only if you are trying to force someone to recognise you, take you seriously and open up a dialogue. Al-Qaeda does not fit into that category. They are competent at what they do, and the list of deliverables for each project does not really run beyond operational success. Usually they let people work it out for themselves.