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Where will the next big war be?

Hortopia
10-07-2006, 23:59
Loose question, i know, but this is pretty much further to that US vs. EU thread where the general consensus was, IMO, 'its not going to happen.' So where? How big? Why? My guess would be the middle east. Who could see that coming?
Franberry
11-07-2006, 00:03
The channel islands invade Ecuador and their good allies Vietnam

the reasons are obious
Hortopia
11-07-2006, 00:04
The channel islands invade Ecuador and their good allies Vietnam

the reasons are obious

Hardly surprising considering the Isle of man's occupation of Peru.
Neo-Mechanus
11-07-2006, 00:06
Nuclear war between Burkino Faso, the Arctic and their staunch allies the Swiss.
Hortopia
11-07-2006, 00:09
well this was going to be a serious thread, but....

Equitorial Guinea vs. Florida

Arctic vs. Antarctic

Ann Coulter vs. Sweden

Mothra vs. Japan

im done for now
Peisandros
11-07-2006, 00:09
The Wairapa and Lower Hutt battle for 'North Wellington' supremacy.
Gallante
11-07-2006, 00:11
i think the most probable 'major' war would be between china and u.s. i mean us is getting freaked already and china only has around 20 icbms capable of hitting mainland us.. all it will take is taiwan (china invading,, or u.s going nuts and invading n.korea)
tell me what u think guys
Neo-Mechanus
11-07-2006, 00:13
i think the most probable 'major' war would be between china and u.s. i mean us is getting freaked already and china only has around 20 icbms capable of hitting mainland us.. all it will take is taiwan (china invading,, or u.s going nuts and invading n.korea)
tell me what u think guys

I hope the people of USA and China aren't seriously stupid enough to start such a war in the first place.
Hortopia
11-07-2006, 00:13
Not sure, i think the world will respond with half-arsed attempts at diplomacy which are really just thinly veiled appeasement. I'd hope so anyway, what with me living in western europe and not Taipei
Franberry
11-07-2006, 00:16
Hardly surprising considering the Isle of man's occupation of Peru.
Considering that the Peoples Republic of Easter Island has a couple fleets of Peru, I dont see the Isle of Man holding onto that territory for an extended period of time.
Hortopia
11-07-2006, 00:18
Considering that the Peoples Republic of Easter Island has a couple fleets of Peru, I dont see the Isle of Man holding onto that territory for an extended period of time.

Have you not seen the Isle of Man's several thousand supercarriers, ICBMs and nuclear, chemical and biological weapons all trained on easter island? They've already taken out most of the EU. Those little statue guys failed at diplomacy.
Llewdor
11-07-2006, 00:19
North Korea.

And I think China will do the invading.

Or we'll see a resumption of hostilities between Sweden and San Marino, who only recently ended their 400 year conflict.
Tactical Grace
11-07-2006, 00:19
USA vs. Iran '09 :cool:

Bring it on, baby! :D

(€10 on US introducing conscription)
Neo-Mechanus
11-07-2006, 00:20
Considering that the Peoples Republic of Easter Island has a couple fleets of Peru, I dont see the Isle of Man holding onto that territory for an extended period of time.

Ah, don't underestimate the Isle of Man's Naval forces, the Nuclear U-boats will give them a run for their money.
Greenhelm
11-07-2006, 00:24
Elton John is going to wage war on the Moon but I think Bognor Regis will have something to say about that. Then the peace loving Buddhists will eventually overhaul the evil occupation of the militant geese by destroying them with nuclear love. This will cause huge political instability in the Malian city of Bamako causing malisha groups operating in Nigeria to invade Tom Cruise. In an unprovoked attack, scientology will destroy Lenin's corpse and thus the straglehold of Communism on the world is released and French Guinea rejoices. The world's human population suffers a huge defeat at the hands of the clouds though. Many prisoners of war will be enlisted into forced labour in cloud cuckoo land. This must be true because Nostradamus predicted it.
Hortopia
11-07-2006, 00:25
USA vs. Iran '09 :cool:

Bring it on, baby! :D

(€10 on US introducing conscription)

0'9, thats pretty soon. bless you for the serious post. €10 says that Iraq will collapse all over again if that happens.

NEW QUESTION

When will the middle east become one huge warzone that no western power will touch?
Gartref
11-07-2006, 00:26
Where will the next big war be?


In my pants. I had two burritos for lunch.
Neo-Mechanus
11-07-2006, 00:26
Didn't Nostradamus get assassinated at the cinema by Hermann Georring?

That's what brought on the Romulan invasion of Stalingrad I'm sure.
Hortopia
11-07-2006, 00:27
Didn't Nostradamus get assassinated at the cinema by Hermann Georring?

i thought theatre, himmler
Neu Leonstein
11-07-2006, 00:27
North Korea.

And I think China will do the invading.
Most likely in this thread so far (although "invading" might be the wrong word, "intervening" is probably better).

If North Korea isn't going to play its role as a buffer state, China has no need for a crackpot at its borders. The only worry they'd have is to somehow avoid having to deal with the reconstruction after sixty years of Juche madness. Maybe China would get the UN involved.

China vs US is impossible due to the interlinked economies.

The Middle East is instable, but no two government dislike each other enough to start a war (except maybe Iran and Israel, but those two are sorta kept apart by geography and geopolitics).

The US won't invade Iran, they couldn't get the support for it from home, from their own military and probably from the international community. And besides, they can't afford it.

Things are just gonna go on as they do now - lots of little wars in places people never heard of, and disease and AIDS do the rest.
Hortopia
11-07-2006, 00:30
Things are just gonna go on as they do now - lots of little wars in places people never heard of, and disease and AIDS do the rest.

im thinking every government in Africa will probably collapse in some way over the next 50 years at least once. i know its grim but they have too many problems. that could be the big warzone no one touches.
Tactical Grace
11-07-2006, 00:31
This must be true because Nostradamus predicted it.
You should see the tripe the Bible Code people print in their full-page Daily Telegraph advertisements every month.

"Sorry readers, we got it wrong again because we miscalculated the number of indirect references to sodomy in the Old Testament. The new numbers suggest the EU will expand its membership to include Trans-Dniestr and the Kingdom of Satan on 27 November 2006."

:rolleyes:
Neo-Mechanus
11-07-2006, 00:31
i thought theatre, himmler

*Slaps self on the wrist*

Sorry, I get my History muddled sometimes, Georring was too busy negotiating the peace between the United States of Scotland and the Serbian Empire at the time.
Greenhelm
11-07-2006, 00:32
i thought theatre, himmler
Nah Himmler only wounded him by malisciously relasing a rabid mongoose in the theatre near Nostradamus... who then proceeded to the cinema and was inadvertedly killed by Goering who bought him popcorn which he later chocked on when watching Angels in the Outfield.
Neo-Mechanus
11-07-2006, 00:35
Georring negotiated the peace at the cinema? Now it all makes sense.
Colodia
11-07-2006, 00:35
Internet war.

/b/ invades Gaia

SA and YTMND sit back and watch, since no one liked Gaia anyway.

/b/ establishes a base in Gaia for recruitment and procedes to invades other websites from there.
Tactical Grace
11-07-2006, 00:36
Internet war.
The 0.0 Alliances of EVE open up cyno fields and commence planetary bombardment of WoW. :D
Hortopia
11-07-2006, 00:36
im still going to say ann coulter vs. sweden. there is no way those two will last. ann coulter will use her unholy army of the undead to attack Malmo, where Sweden's only hope will be to use rational thought and logical argument to defeat her. Please someone invade ann coulter.
Colodia
11-07-2006, 00:38
The 0.0 Alliances of EVE open up cyno fields and commence planetary bombardment of WoW. :D
I'm so happy that you made me feel less dorky since I have no clue what you're talking about.
Hortopia
11-07-2006, 00:41
I'm so happy that you made me feel less dorky since I have no clue what you're talking about.

:p i didnt even get your first thread apart from ytmnd. but im fairly sure that:

google = china

aol = US

mozilla = EU

Windows ME = Africa
JuNii
11-07-2006, 00:46
In my pants. I had two burritos for lunch.
OMFG! :eek:

I can just imagine it now... Gas attacks, biological warfare, and the dropping of large bombs...

it's gonna be both messy and painful. :eek:
Nobel Hobos
11-07-2006, 03:48
India and Pakistan. '07 or '08. No nukes, no deep incursions, but a lot of killing in Kashmir.

my 2 cents worth.
Secret aj man
11-07-2006, 04:02
India and Pakistan. '07 or '08. No nukes, no deep incursions, but a lot of killing in Kashmir.

my 2 cents worth.

possible

also consider north korea v south korea....possibly north korea v japan,as japan is pushing pretty hard about sanctions,and/or lil kim screws up and test fires a missile and accidentally it boinks japan,i would think there may serious repercussions.
if i remember correctly,didn't the nk"s shoot one over japan awhile back,imagine if it failed and hit japan?

in all seriousness...full on war or total war is a thing of the past,at least as far as the u.s. goes..it's gonna be strategic and tactical strikes on infrastructure from now on.
iraq is an aberration.
Ghost of Zion
11-07-2006, 04:55
Obviously the Middle East, we will not let those Arab pigs get away with their atrocities against man kind
Andaluciae
11-07-2006, 04:56
The next Great Power War will occur in the East Asia/West Pacific region. The intiating cause is yet to be determined. It will involve the United States, Great Britain, Japan, the Republic of Korea, Australia, the Republic of China and a smattering of other nations. Their opponent will be the People's Republic of China.

The initiating action is irrelevant.

It will begin in the obvious fashion, the United States Government, in conjunction with the governments it is allied with will immediately freeze all PRC assets within their countries. That includes stocks, bonds and loans given.

US Strategic Bombers, B-1, B-2 and B-52s based out of Hawaii, Guam, the Northern Marianas and several other places will rapidly penetrate PRC airspace, and move to decapitate the PRC military as rapidly as possible. Command targets will include all high ranking officers, as well as members of the Politburo, Communication facilities, Nuclear weapons facilities and major military installations.

Concurrently, the PLAN will have put to sea to attempt to engage the US Carrier Battle Groups in the area, supported by the PLAAF. Short of some truly amazing tactical manuevers, the PLAN will be annihilated, and the PLAAF will suffer tremendous casualties as the result of the superiority of the American carrier based fighters, as well as ROC, ROK and Japanese land based aircraft and surface ships.

Further American Carrier Battle Groups will move into the area to isolate the PRC from the ocean by laying down a blockade. Rapidly starving the country of vitally needed fuel and imported supplies. From this point the PRC will be faced with five options:

1.) Keep on going under the current paradigm, until all resources are exhausted, and then make ready use of peasant labor for all means.

2.) Move north to attempt to seize the Russian Siberian Oil fields, a very unwise move.

3.) Move west into Central Asia in an attempt to drive on the oil fields in the region and those of the Middle East beyond. Also a very unwise move.

4.) Negotiate an armistice before the country collapses. Not very appealing but it's the least destructive one.

5.) (not really an option) Use tactical nuclear weapons to break the blockade, and be faced with Massive Retaliation from the US Strategic Arsenal.

It can split off in a billion different ways from these possibilities.
Nobel Hobos
11-07-2006, 05:22
The next Great Power War will occur in the East Asia/West Pacific region. The intiating cause is yet to be determined. It will involve the United States, Great Britain, Japan, the Republic of Korea, Australia, the Republic of China and a smattering of other nations. Their opponent will be the People's Republic of China.

The initiating action is irrelevant.


There'll be a "big" war or three before that happens!
But congrats on not drinking the "economic partnership between China & US means peace" koolaid. :cool:
Lunatic Goofballs
11-07-2006, 05:33
Where will the next big war be?

In my pants. :)
Wallonochia
11-07-2006, 05:58
The next big war?

The Second Toledo War!

Toledo will be ours again!

Or, as the old joke goes, "Loser gets Detroit!"
Chellis
11-07-2006, 06:51
Im calling Sino-Russian war, within the next 25 years. Russia will slowly begin to build up, economically, and hence militarially. China will be much more powerful than it is now, but russia will still have the technological advantage, probably slowly shutting china out of military sales as tensions grow from china trying to be the upper half of the sino-russian relationship, thats been a touchy one for a century at least.

China will believe it can take out russia, or at least a nice chuck of siberia and oil, in a world increasingly growing low on reserves against consumption. It will use a little homebrew equipment, and the best it can buy from europe and elsewhere, as barring something big, the EU will sooner or later start trading weapons to the growing eastern giant.

Chinese assaults will fail, with the russians proving to have more advanced fighters than china could still buy, as well as superior SAM. Spetsnaz will get serious, and start majorly attacking chinese supply lines and command structure. Knowing nuclear bombs would wipe them both out, both sides use none.

The two will lob artillery for ages, and we will see a sort of new trench warfare, with tanks becoming more and more destructable, by aircraft, artillery, and anti-tank weapons. Russia will be able to do enough damage to chinese ports and shipping in the meanwhile, making the war economically unmaintainable. China will sue for peace, lose bits of manchuria and/or have to pay the russians somehow.

Russia will get full of itself, and get screwed over somehow later... But I'm done with predictions for now :P
Good Lifes
11-07-2006, 17:17
If history has anything to say it will be in Europe. By far Europe is the most warlike area of the world. Even if it is outside of Europe it is almost a sure thing that Europe will be a major player. So with that in mind I would guess that with NATO pushing against Russia, and with Russia seeing that danger to it's sphere of influence the next big one could be in Europe.
Hamilay
11-07-2006, 17:28
George Bush vs. Everyone. Including the USA. Although Bush has mind-numbing stupidity rays which can either send people that get too close to him into a coma or into uncontrollable spasms of laughter, it's pretty one sided against him until the gigantic robot laser nuclear Cheney arrives, smashing tanks and troops like toys. Then the Star Destroyers arrive and another planet is added to the Galactic Empire. Then the world blows up for no apparent reason.

Chuck Norris vs. the world. Norris wins (come on, you knew a Chuck Norris one was coming).

Cthulhu vs. the world/Cthulhu vs. Chuck Norris. The world bands together to fight Cthultu. Computer games are produced.

http://images.somethingawful.com/mjolnir/images/cg09282004/Captain-Pancakes.jpg
More realistically, I'd say North Korea or the good 'ol Middle East.
Allers
11-07-2006, 17:30
Wherever it is coming from,it will.
Barbaric Tribes
11-07-2006, 17:35
Elton John is going to wage war on the Moon but I think Bognor Regis will have something to say about that. Then the peace loving Buddhists will eventually overhaul the evil occupation of the militant geese by destroying them with nuclear love. This will cause huge political instability in the Malian city of Bamako causing malisha groups operating in Nigeria to invade Tom Cruise. In an unprovoked attack, scientology will destroy Lenin's corpse and thus the straglehold of Communism on the world is released and French Guinea rejoices. The world's human population suffers a huge defeat at the hands of the clouds though. Many prisoners of war will be enlisted into forced labour in cloud cuckoo land. This must be true because Nostradamus predicted it.


*begins preparing*
Kologk
11-07-2006, 17:38
The next Great Power War will occur in the East Asia/West Pacific region. The intiating cause is yet to be determined. It will involve the United States, Great Britain, Japan, the Republic of Korea, Australia, the Republic of China and a smattering of other nations. Their opponent will be the People's Republic of China.


So the Republic of China is going to be fighting the People's Republic of China?
Andaluciae
11-07-2006, 17:41
So the Republic of China is going to be fighting the People's Republic of China?
Yes.

The Republic of China is more commonly referred to as the Island of Taiwan, which continues to resist PRC claims to it's territory.

The People's Republic of China is mainland China.

I see the conflict between the two over the potential independence of Taiwan as one potential trigger, but not the only one.
LiberationFrequency
11-07-2006, 17:41
So the Republic of China is going to be fighting the People's Republic of China?

If you look at the way China is run, a revolution seems quiete possible.
Andaluciae
11-07-2006, 17:46
If you look at the way China is run, a revolution seems quiete possible.
Republic of China is Taiwan.

People's Republic of China is the Mainland.

Much as North Korea is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, whilst South Korea is the Republic of Korea.
Cullons
11-07-2006, 18:34
india vs pakistan.

China will come to the assitance of pakistan
while russia + US will side with india.

a few of the muslim nations bordering russia will attack russia.

Because of this conflict there will be a general destabilization amongst the middle easter/north africa nations. Which will lead to skirmishes with the sub-saharan african countries as well
Allers
11-07-2006, 18:48
india vs pakistan.

China will come to the assitance of pakistan
while russia + US will side with india.

a few of the muslim nations bordering russia will attack russia.

Because of this conflict there will be a general destabilization amongst the middle easter/north africa nations. Which will lead to skirmishes with the sub-saharan african countries as well
beyond that,it will be impossible to have a thought,all will be destroyed
...
We will remember
Estovakia
11-07-2006, 18:52
india vs pakistan.

China will come to the assitance of pakistan
while russia + US will side with india.

a few of the muslim nations bordering russia will attack russia.

Because of this conflict there will be a general destabilization amongst the middle easter/north africa nations. Which will lead to skirmishes with the sub-saharan african countries as well

I would think America would go on the side of Pakistan and Russia would go on the side of India. After all, we currently support Pakistan (which won't happen as soon as the big man in charge is dead) and India is somewhat pissed that we are friendly with Pakistan.

India being supported by Russia is a definate though, as they either mimic, buy, or are otherwise influenced by Russian equipment.
Chellis
12-07-2006, 05:20
india vs pakistan.

China will come to the assitance of pakistan
while russia + US will side with india.

a few of the muslim nations bordering russia will attack russia.

Because of this conflict there will be a general destabilization amongst the middle easter/north africa nations. Which will lead to skirmishes with the sub-saharan african countries as well

France would most likely come to indian aid, the Franco-indian relationship has been growing much faster than the relationship with the US or Russia recently. I'm actually doubting that russia would come in, it has little to gain, by siding against a major user of its technology(and the derivitives).
Chellis
12-07-2006, 05:22
I would think America would go on the side of Pakistan and Russia would go on the side of India. After all, we currently support Pakistan (which won't happen as soon as the big man in charge is dead) and India is somewhat pissed that we are friendly with Pakistan.

India being supported by Russia is a definate though, as they either mimic, buy, or are otherwise influenced by Russian equipment.

Except for their homebuilt infantry stuff, French additions to their tanks, french aircraft, american helicopters, british aircraft, french ships... the list goes on.
Baked squirrels
12-07-2006, 05:27
Republic of China is Taiwan.

People's Republic of China is the Mainland.

Much as North Korea is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, whilst South Korea is the Republic of Korea.


I hope that they don't start fighting, I wanted to visit my friend's house in Kaohsiung
Asadia
12-07-2006, 05:57
The next big war...

Syria will attack Israel in order to re-capture the golan heights.
Iran will join syrian attacks (they have signed a military assistance agreement).
The fighting will escalate, and the US will quikly become involved. Their attempt to place US troops in Jordan and Egypt will be rejected, further increasing tensions in the region.
Gandae
12-07-2006, 05:57
Chinese Civil War,
Poor people in rulal area's currently being shit on,
vs. government and the new Chinese bussiness class
Chellis
12-07-2006, 07:24
The next big war...

Syria will attack Israel in order to re-capture the golan heights.
Iran will join syrian attacks (they have signed a military assistance agreement).
The fighting will escalate, and the US will quikly become involved. Their attempt to place US troops in Jordan and Egypt will be rejected, further increasing tensions in the region.

Err...

1. The israeli army would now, more than ever, wipe the floor with both the syrian and iranian militaries. At least back in the 60's and 70's, they were getting meaningful purchases from the soviet union and manufacturers of soviet equipment. Mass F-4's and Mig-23's would be ripped apart by F-15I's and F-16I's... then both countries would probably get bombed, hard, by israel again.

It would probably be a couple week war, and if israel was actually having trouble, they would fire off a few nukes. I totally believe israel would do it, if the arabs were somehow beating them.
Sonaj
12-07-2006, 08:30
Ann Coulter vs. Sweden
We would PWN her ass! Who is she, btw?
Cullons
12-07-2006, 10:08
I would think America would go on the side of Pakistan and Russia would go on the side of India. After all, we currently support Pakistan (which won't happen as soon as the big man in charge is dead) and India is somewhat pissed that we are friendly with Pakistan.

India being supported by Russia is a definate though, as they either mimic, buy, or are otherwise influenced by Russian equipment.

true, but remember the US has also got very friendly with India, nuclear technology and so on.
India will be the next china in terms of growth.
Honestly i don't know whether the US or Europe would be involved in such a conflict. I think we'd generally stay out of it and just protect our own interests.
Cullons
12-07-2006, 10:11
France would most likely come to indian aid, the Franco-indian relationship has been growing much faster than the relationship with the US or Russia recently. I'm actually doubting that russia would come in, it has little to gain, by siding against a major user of its technology(and the derivitives).

In such a conflict the UK and France would play a minor role. We'd probably go for humanitarian aid and aim for UN resolutions.
The muslim card would also hamper europe as by this time turkey would be a member. So we'd be more worried about protecting that border and preventing Islamists from causing general havoc in europe.
Neu Leonstein
12-07-2006, 10:55
We would PWN her ass! Who is she, btw?
Imagine a deadly combination of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons, wrapped in a skirt and swinging a Bible, and you come close.
Mstreeted
12-07-2006, 11:10
it's all going to kick off August 17th 2012
Intelocracy
12-07-2006, 11:21
Yes.
The Republic of China is more commonly referred to as the Island of Taiwan, which continues to resist PRC claims to it's territory.
.

I think china will only start a war when it can win. so maby 2050 or 2040 it will annex the US or somthing.

Anyway - if it doesn't have the US or china or india in it it is hardly a world war.
Hortopia
12-07-2006, 13:47
north africa and the muslim middle east vs. israel

Israel will step on the toes of arab countries one time to many and border skirmishes will escalate on all sides until the government collapses. Then israel will be occupied until the UN gets there.
Chellis
12-07-2006, 22:19
In such a conflict the UK and France would play a minor role. We'd probably go for humanitarian aid and aim for UN resolutions.
The muslim card would also hamper europe as by this time turkey would be a member. So we'd be more worried about protecting that border and preventing Islamists from causing general havoc in europe.

I find this hard to believe. France is playing for the russian and indian alliances, it would be very much in its favor to see india win. I'm thinking it wouldn't really send troops, or not many, but naval and aerial forces.
Barcodius
13-07-2006, 09:09
USA vs Iran.

If George had been able to spell it right in the first place, we would not have had Iraq ;)
Cypresaria
13-07-2006, 13:52
Can I have some of what you guys are smoking?



More seriously, the next big war will begin when hezibullah forces in Lebanon launch rockets into northern Israel and attacks Israeli outposts on the Israeli side of the border, Israel then responds by pounding Lebanese......... oh shit its started


El-Presidente Boris

<<<stocking up his bunker with food and water
Ieuano
13-07-2006, 14:39
ill trade your bnker for one red paperclip...
Rusany
13-07-2006, 15:30
I think that the next big war will be in Eastern Asia. As for who, I'm not sure.
Cypresaria
13-07-2006, 15:34
ill trade your bnker for one red paperclip...

You can have a space in my bunker if you forfill the following condictions

1. have a red paperclip
2. yo are a woman
3. Not lying you are a woman
4. aged 8 months and 12 days older than me
5. are a registered mental health nurse


El-Presidente Boris

oh and 6. Like a diet consisting of spam and perrier