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In your face Cannavaro.

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In your face Cannavaro.
Fucking ridiculous. Cannavaro was head and shoulders above every other player at the World Cup, and a hot-headed Frenchman is declared better than him. :mad:

Should've been Buffon. Oh well. Good of FIFA to overlook his "curtain call" and see the man for his career. Although I often wish they'd reward a player for the current World Cup play and NOT on his career, but I don't run the show, so....

Cannervo should get it, not a player who shone for two matches in this World Cup.

Ugh.

Was it just me or did the Italians close him out of the match anyways?

Cannavaro was better IMHO, and Pirlo even better still. Zidane had great matches against Brazil and Spain, but I think Ribery for example was more valuable to the French.

I don't know how he is going to have the face to go and take the award after that savage head-butt. Clearly Cannavaro should win it, all that fuss about Zidane and against us he did nothing.

Ugh.

Was it just me or did the Italians close him out of the match anyways?

Cannavaro was better IMHO, and Pirlo even better still. Zidane had great matches against Brazil and Spain, but I think Ribery for example was more valuable to the French.
Yeah - the French got through the group because of a great performance by Vieira in the match against Togo, and Zidane's contribution was in getting them past Spain and Brazil. He did almost nothing in the group games, and very little (apart from scoring a penalty) in the Portugal match. Then in the final the Italians had the measure of him and for most of the match he had little or no influence.

On the other hand, Cannavaro was the reason Italy only conceded one goal from open play in the whole tournament, and, as we all know, more often than not, defence wins the game.

Well, a defender rarely wins this award, and Zidane played a great WC. The stupid act he made has little to do with his performance as a player, so the gold ball is not a scandal.

Well, a defender rarely wins this award, and Zidane played a great WC. The stupid act he made has little to do with his performance as a player, so the gold ball is not a scandal.


Well, except that 'the stupid act' showed him up as an incredibly shitty sport. You don't get red cards for nothing - they're a sign of bad, bad sportsmanship.

I personally don't think bad sportmanship should be rewarded, but that's just me.

I'll just have to remember that you can apparently get a Golden Ball just through name recognition, and not for actual acts of good game play, and in spite of shockingly bad gameplay.

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In your face Cannavaro.



Just makes me wonder what the hell he said to Zidane?

Does anyone know?

Just makes me wonder what the hell he said to Zidane?

Does anyone know?

Who cares, the Italians deserved it.

Just makes me wonder what the hell he said to Zidane?

Does anyone know?

I've read it was a racial slur. Doesn't matter though - anyone who turns a verbal exchange into a physical one is a stupid twat.

Who cares, the Italians deserved it.

I agree. The Italians did deserve to win :p

Well, a defender rarely wins this award, and Zidane played a great WC. The stupid act he made has little to do with his performance as a player, so the gold ball is not a scandal.

He played two good games, many played well throughout the cup. Most didn't get themselves sent off for a stupid incident, headbutting a player does have something to do with ability. Van Persie, great talent, complete idiot for awhilt until Wegner publically barracked him.

Maradona, one of the true greats, rememebred for drugs and cheating as well as his ability. You get sent off for something like Zindane did, it does reflect on you

I agree. The Italians did deserve to win :p

Yeah! They deserved to dive their way past Australia!

Just makes me wonder what the hell he said to Zidane?

Does anyone know?

It wasn't Cannavaro, it was Materazzi. I don't think we'll ever know for sure.
But players often do insult each other, and I doubt what Zidane himself said to Materazzi was too flattering...

Yeah! They deserved to dive their way past Australia!

Eh, that match was disappointing, but I remember the shite refereeing more than anything else.

Wasn't as bad as the Australia/Croatia match though. At least Italian players can dive well. The Croatian players couldn't even work out which bits to clutch when they fell over.

In your face bitch!
Hi Shaed!:)

In your face bitch!
Hi Shaed!:)

Falalahi! Good to see NS is much the same as always, Harlesburg and all ^.^

Falalahi! Good to see NS is much the same as always, Harlesburg and all ^.^
Yep still plaguing this place.^_^
*Offers a My Little Pony*

Yep still plaguing this place.^_^
*Offers a My Little Pony*

Plaguing NS? That must be like trying to burn ashes or salt the ocean...

Squee! *Steals pony and flees before soccer fans catch on to The Uber Girliness*

I wonder why do so many people sympathise with this violent African as opposed to the proper, healthy and handsome Italian that is Materazzi. Either the status of the white man in this world is quickly deteriorating or we let petty anti-Italian nationalist squabbles overcome our racial solidarity. If I was to exaggerate, I would even say that Zidane should be relieved of the head that he's using so improperly. But I'm not going to say that.

Shame on you, Arab-lovers.

I wonder why do so many people sympathise with this violent African as opposed to the proper, healthy and handsome Italian that is Materazzi. Either the status of the white man in this world is quickly deteriorating or we let petty anti-Italian nationalist squabbles overcome our racial solidarity. If I was to exaggerate, I would even say that Zidane should be relieved of the head that he's using so improperly. But I'm not going to say that.

Shame on you, Arab-lovers.
Go away. Racist troll. :rolleyes:
I'm backing Materazzi on this one, but race has nothing to do with it.

I wonder why do so many people sympathise with this violent African as opposed to the proper, healthy and handsome Italian that is Materazzi. Either the status of the white man in this world is quickly deteriorating or we let petty anti-Italian nationalist squabbles overcome our racial solidarity. If I was to exaggerate, I would even say that Zidane should be relieved of the head that he's using so improperly. But I'm not going to say that.

Shame on you, Arab-lovers.

I... am fairly sure that none of this has to do with why Zidane fans are Zidane fans. But thanks for playing.

Materazzi isn't that hot either, from what I vaguely recall.

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Oh wait, of course. NS has all this white race power stuff going on these days. Sorry, I'm from back in the day when the main debates were abortion and creationism. I'll catch up eventually.

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By the way, I think Materazzi said something racist to Zidane. It's the only reason I could think of to just explode like that...and as we all know, the Italian football community is trying their best to make the grade as the most racist in Europe.

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By the way, I think Materazzi said something racist to Zidane. It's the only reason I could think of to just explode like that...and as we all know, the Italian football community is trying their best to make the grade as the most racist in Europe.

Because the best way to deal with intolerance in others is to air your own intolerance in public :rolleyes:

But that's ok, insulting Italians is The Thing To Do tonight, it seems. I hope you guys at least get free hats or something for your trouble.

By the way, I think Materazzi said something racist to Zidane. It's the only reason I could think of to just explode like that...and as we all know, the Italian football community is trying their best to make the grade as the most racist in Europe.
Don't wave that finger it gives me bad memories of Gremany v Italy.:(
Speaking of Germany...
In the 28th minute??? of the Portugal match after the Portugese Right back got carded and there was a heated discussion between Scweinstager and a 'Geser i am sure the 'Geser called hima Fascist Pig.
Did you notice that?

*Abandons Signature*-Begone flee, i don't need you!
FRANCE!!!-yuk but Italy is yuckier.

Because the best way to deal with intolerance in others is to air your own intolerance in public :rolleyes:
No, to be honest I just seem to recall one incident after the other, from players showing their fans fascist or Nazi salutes, whole crowds being evicted for chanting various things towards players who dare to be black...that sort of thing, you know? Spain's been trying hard to keep up, but I would say that Italy takes the cake at the moment.

The Azzurri I actually thought had a great tournament and ultimately deserved to win. Even if they might be playing in second or third division next season. ;)

EDIT: Found some examples for what I was talking about...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/628973.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/africa/4476412.stm
http://www.soccernet.com/europe/news/2001/0508/20010508featgrech.html
http://www.farenet.org/news_article.asp?intNewsID=356
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/spiegel/0,1518,403442,00.html

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'Sif Italy is yuckier. We am win, in more than just the literal sense.

Did you notice that?
Well, given that I wasn't on the pitch...no. And I didn't hear anything more, so I suppose it can't have been any worse than the sort of things people have called me at times. :p

No, to be honest I just seem to recall one incident after the other, from players showing their fans fascist or Nazi salutes, whole crowds being evicted for chanting various things towards players who dare to be black...that sort of thing, you know? Spain's been trying hard to keep up, but I would say that Italy takes the cake at the moment.

The Azzurri I actually thought had a great tournament and ultimately deserved to win. Even if they might be playing in second or third division next season. ;)

Ooooh, ice burn on me!

The lesson I shall learn from this is... uh. No prodding the Neu Leonstein in football debates. And also, cookies taste nice with chocolate sauce.

... I can't imagine Italian players giving nazi salutes, or Italian fans being anti-blacks. Obviously I haven't been paying attention (can I use the 'this is my first WC, and I've only watched half a dozen matches' excuse?)

Thanks for not being a jerk about my stupidty. Patience is always respected a lot on NS ;)

No, to be honest I just seem to recall one incident after the other, from players showing their fans fascist or Nazi salutes, whole crowds being evicted for chanting various things towards players who dare to be black...that sort of thing, you know? Spain's been trying hard to keep up, but I would say that Italy takes the cake at the moment.


Crowds in Italy have a lot of dumb mottos and symbols. A number of violent and stupid people create "fan teams" more similar to gangs. These are mostly right-wing extremists, usually racists, and this accounts for fascist salutes and insults to black players.
In some way, football is the area where the worst of our istincts is conveyed. And little has been done to fight this.

Long live Zidane!

He should have king hit the bastard instead, though.

Ooooh, ice burn on me!

The lesson I shall learn from this is... uh. No prodding the Neu Leonstein in football debates. And also, cookies taste nice with chocolate sauce.

... I can't imagine Italian players giving nazi salutes, or Italian fans being anti-blacks. Obviously I haven't been paying attention (can I use the 'this is my first WC, and I've only watched half a dozen matches' excuse?)

Thanks for not being a jerk about my stupidty. Patience is always respected a lot on NS ;)
Sadly, just one incident of many: http://breakingnews.iol.ie/sport/story.asp?j=166686600&p=y666873x6&t=soccer

Long live Zidane!

He should have king hit the bastard instead, though.

Yep. Because violence is the answer to every problem. If you can't beat them, hit them. No one will spot that sort of thing for what it actually is...

Long live Zidane!

He should have king hit the bastard instead, though.
Liverpool Kiss!
Actual what he should have done was walked away scored another goal picked up the ball handed it to the 'clod' an d said there goes your world cup bitch.

Yep. Because violence is the answer to every problem. If you can't beat them, hit them. No one will spot that sort of thing for what it actually is...

Hey ho! Here we go! He's Zidane, he's our bro!
Hey ho! Here we go! He's Zidane, he's our bro!

Hey ho! Here we go! He's Zidane, he's our bro!
Hey ho! Here we go! He's Zidane, he's our bro!

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Nope. Rage is failing to build. Maybe it's because I know that Zidane's stupidity practically handed the match to Italy. Hard to be angry if you're giving him credit for that.

'Sif Italy is yuckier. We am win, in more than just the literal sense.
Par don?
Well, given that I wasn't on the pitch...no. And I didn't hear anything more, so I suppose it can't have been any worse than the sort of things people have called me at times.:p
Reading their lips man, reading their lips.
Why is that sport so full of thugs.:confused:

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Nope. Rage is failing to build. Maybe it's because I know that Zidane's stupidity practically handed the match to Italy. Hard to be angry if you're giving him credit for that.
Sad thing is, is it did.

How many years has Zidane played at international level? How many years has he played in Italy?

How many years did he suffer racist slurs in Marsel. because his parents are Algerian?

Yet on his last match, as Captain of his country, in the World Cup final, which he's probably going to win- he forgets years of maturity and experience and headbutts a guy because of a possible racist slur.

If that's what happened, Materazzi has nothing to be proud of, but Zidane has no one to blame but himself- he could have just walked away, like all the years previously.

If that's what happened, Materazzi has nothing to be proud of, but Zidane has no one to blame but himself- he could have just walked away, like all the years previously.
Exactically!

And with those wise words having been said, I can finally go to bed. Last night I didn't get much sleep for some reason.

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Nope. Rage is failing to build. Maybe it's because I know that Zidane's stupidity practically handed the match to Italy. Hard to be angry if you're giving him credit for that.

Pfffhhh, Italy was going to win anyway. The ref couldn't be more biased if he was wearing an Italian shirt.

Pfffhhh, Italy was going to win anyway. The ref couldn't be more biased if he was wearing an Italian shirt.

I have to say, I think all the refs I saw were too shite to be considered 'biased'. It didn't seem like they favoured one team over another as much as it seemed they just had no clue what to do, or how to at least pretend to be consistent in calls.

Of all the things that definitely needs changing, my vote's on the WC refereeing.

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Hi Shaed.

Liverpool Kiss!
Actual what he should have done was walked away scored another goal picked up the ball handed it to the 'clod' an d said there goes your world cup bitch.
That would've been with style!

Hi Shaed.
Hey you! Long time no talking.

How many years has Zidane played at international level? How many years has he played in Italy?

How many years did he suffer racist slurs in Marsel. because his parents are Algerian?

Yet on his last match, as Captain of his country, in the World Cup final, which he's probably going to win- he forgets years of maturity and experience and headbutts a guy because of a possible racist slur.

If that's what happened, Materazzi has nothing to be proud of, but Zidane has no one to blame but himself- he could have just walked away, like all the years previously.
Ah, but in saying that both the Media and FIFA have talked p the Racisim and Say no to Racisim issue screening Bleeding Heart News Articals and waving their nifty banners, Maternazi could very well have made a mockery of the past 6 weeks efforts.

Ooooh, ice burn on me!

The lesson I shall learn from this is... uh. No prodding the Neu Leonstein in football debates. And also, cookies taste nice with chocolate sauce.

... I can't imagine Italian players giving nazi salutes, or Italian fans being anti-blacks. Obviously I haven't been paying attention (can I use the 'this is my first WC, and I've only watched half a dozen matches' excuse?)

Thanks for not being a jerk about my stupidty. Patience is always respected a lot on NS ;)
It's not that obvious on WC. You can see more of it in Serie A.

That would've been with style!
Zidane had played brilliantly in the game he had scored the first goal helped France dominate the midle 3rd of the field in the second half giving France the ascendancy he even rattled a header off of the post, what he did was dumb.

Hey you! Long time no talking.

Indeed. What's been up? TG me if you want. :)

Ah, but in saying that both the Media and FIFA have talked p the Racisim and Say no to Racisim issue screening Bleeding Heart News Articals and waving their nifty banners, Maternazi could very well have made a mockery of the past 6 weeks efforts.
I'm not excusing Materazzi's actions (if indeed that is what happened), I'm saying Zidane was experienced enough not to do what he did. Christ, the guy played in Italy for years. He knows well what they are capable of.

Could have and should have walked away.

ahaha go zidane!

and stop being wusses! So what, he lost his temper? That happens to alot of players, even the most seasoned ones. THe thing is, zidane is a godlike player, and he diserves that recognition.

If you want to cry, cry about players that diserved also to be recognized and weren't.

ahaha go zidane!

and stop being wusses! So what, he lost his temper? That happens to alot of players, even the most seasoned ones. THe thing is, zidane is a godlike player, and he diserves that recognition.

If you want to cry, cry about players that diserved also to be recognized and weren't.
But he all but cost is nation a World Cup.
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I ain't trying to troll or nothing i just feel the need to argue both sides.

ahaha go zidane!

and stop being wusses! So what, he lost his temper? That happens to alot of players, even the most seasoned ones. THe thing is, zidane is a godlike player, and he diserves that recognition.

If you want to cry, cry about players that diserved also to be recognized and weren't.

He lost his temper, and in doing so, probably lost his team the game.

That's the whole point - down on the pitch, he can't just act for himself. He's on a team, and they rely on him not to DO stupid shit like that. He really let them down.

And if he was so godlike, he would have been above petty stuff like that and kept his eye on the cup.

There's nothing to be proud about here unless you just watch soccer for mindless violence (and if you do, more power to you, I suppose. Whatever floats your boat and all that)

I don't watch football for the mindless violence.. the thing is, the fact that there is room for failure, any type of failure, is that attracts me.

Imagine how dull it would be if the players were all nice people, the referee's were perfect, and so on... there would be no controversy, nothing to talk about after the game! and that is the funny part! O.O

He lost his temper, and in doing so, probably lost his team the game.


Just like Rooney did to England.

Just like Rooney did to England.
But instead of Rooney, they blame Ronaldo.

But instead of Rooney, they blame Ronaldo.

They should be blaming Rooney and Sven Goran Ericsson.

What a joke! One good game and the guy gets the award. Cannavaro had one bad game and loses out (last game was his worst, Zidane's too for that matter).

Zidane was a no show for several of the games, not including the one he missed due to cards. That is ridiculous, and probably had absolutely nothing to do with his retirement.

They should be blaming Rooney and Sven Goran Ericsson.
Yep, they should. Can't say I'm surprised though. It's the same every 4 years with the English. It's never their fault.

But instead of Rooney, they blame Ronaldo.

That's England for you. They have such terrific fans.

Pfffhhh, Italy was going to win anyway. The ref couldn't be more biased if he was wearing an Italian shirt.

Yeah. He even lowered the bar when Trezeguet kicked his penalty.:p

Yeah. He even lowered the bar when Trezeguet kicked his penalty.:p

France got a penalty and what, one foul, in the whole game?

Yeah. He even lowered the bar when Trezeguet kicked his penalty.:p


Did he?, I didn´t see that! What a M.......... scumbag

What a load of rubbish has been posted here.

Football players have always trash talked, and always will, and Zidane does enough of it himself. No justification there for Zidane's actions.

He should NOT have been awarded the golden ball - it sends a terrible message to kids playing football. It says that going overt the top with violence is acceptable and will be forgiven.

The golden ball should probably have gone to Canavarro, for the best performance by an individual player througout the tournament.

Golden Ball = Zinedine Zidane, stood up to dirty Italy, champion of footballers everywhere.

Bah, the didn't gave that golben ball out of the headbutt, but by his great games, including the first half against Italy.

Even Materazzi said that Zidane deserved it, and he was in the receiving end of that masterful head manouver.

However, Cannavaro also deserved it...

Buffon should have gotten the golden ball.

I was for Cannavaro but his last game was subpar.

But instead of Rooney, they blame Ronaldo.and not only the fans, the british press too.

...that masterful head manouver...masterful :D :D :cool: :D

and not only the fans, the british press too.

Indeed...

And Ronaldo didnt get the Youth player award because of his "diving". Apparentely thats worse than what Zidane did. Go figure.

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/Daryoon/Celebs/Zidane.gifLOL.

need the "headbutt" command.

and the "stomp-on-testicles" too..

LOL.

need the "headbutt" command.

and the "stomp-on-testicles" too..

You just hit "R" for "Rooney." :D

And for those who think that Italians always dive

http://www.ljplus.ru/img/u/s/ushan/zidane_ush.gif

Pfffhhh, Italy was going to win anyway. The ref couldn't be more biased if he was wearing an Italian shirt.

France's penalty was a little debatable to say the least. Many times when the ref could have booked French players (Diarra mostly) but didn't. He missed the headbut and a near blantent foul that would have resulted in a second penalty to France

he dived!