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I smoke socially, when haning out with friends and having a few drinks. What about you?

I don't smoke, and I prefer not to be around people who do :)

I don't smoke, because I don't think I would be able to stop if I started. I don't mind hanging out with smokers though.

The smell makes me anxious... and I can't legally do it anyways.

I voted no.
Because i don't.

Erm... that really depends on what substance you mean by "smoke".... <.< >.>

However, I don't smoke and find it repulsive when people do so in public places around me. I don't believe people shouldn't be allowed to, however.

The smell makes me anxious... and I can't legally do it anyways.
Who the shit are you?

Erm... that really depends on what substance you mean by "smoke".... <.< >.>

However, I don't smoke and find it repulsive when people do so in public places around me. I don't believe people shouldn't be allowed to, however.
Hey congratuations on 10,000 posts!:fluffle:

Nope.
Not any more.

Cept I do smoke teh weedz. :cool:

Who the shit are you?
Yet another n00b. THere are so many of them these days.

Nope. Alergic.

I used to, but I never smoked much. Real smokers hated me because I could stop whenever I wanted and never have a nic-fit. I still smoke cigars on rare occasions, and if I'm around smokers, I might bum one if I'm drinking, but that's it.

Who the shit are you?

Some guy who sometimes visits the forums. I've been here over a year now.

Hey congratuations on 10,000 posts!:fluffle:
Yay someone noticed! :fluffle:

, although I wouldn't put it to anyone else, though.

Meh.

Yet another n00b. THere are so many of them these days.
n00bs pwn

Nope. Don't want to either.

I used to, but I never smoked much. Real smokers hated me because I could stop whenever I wanted and never have a nic-fit. I still smoke cigars on rare occasions, and if I'm around smokers, I might bum one if I'm drinking, but that's it.
I'm about to fire up a cigar right now, because the night is pleasent and the cable is out.

I gave up about a month ago

Yay someone noticed! :fluffle:

, although I wouldn't put it to anyone else, though.

Meh.
Mr post slow!
You held off for long enough.:p

I gave up about a month ago
I quit this morning.:rolleyes:
Some guy who sometimes visits the forums. I've been here over a year now.
Nice to meet you then, i know a Chicken and a Klept...

Used to smoke for 16 years and just gave up 5 weeks ago. Best thing I ever did. Smoking needs to be outlawed

Used to smoke for 16 years and just gave up 5 weeks ago. Best thing I ever did. Smoking needs to be outlawed

And our income taxes go up (like in NationStates). Our gov't loves to rake in tax money :mad:

Do you smoke?

The last time I smoked was my failed attempt at dousing myself in petrol and torching myself. I smoked for quiet a while, and then the fire brigade put me out. Since then, I've been on patches...

I smoke, cuz I'm so hot I'm on fire.

I hate when people see me with a cig tho, and assume I must be an "addict." God that's annoying. It's not like I go up to their mom and assume she must be a prostitute.

Who the shit are you?

Well, it looks like he's not a New Zealander, so he's got something going for him :D


Don't smoke. Never will.

I'm a singer, and I have terrible allergies. Given that, for me to smoke would be profoundly stupid. (Not that it's a terribly sensible habit, anyway, of course, but it's at least somewhat less dumb if you don't need your lungs and vocal cords to make your living, and if it doesn't prevent you from breathing for at least 24 hours per whiff.)

no.

If I were to smoke, there's a chance I could die, and not like 'oh noes, I have an increased chance at lung cancer' kind of 'dying' either, I have weak lungs and Asthma and the physical act of smoking could cause me to asphyxiate.
Even second hand smoke makes it hard for me to breathe.

I do believe people should be allowed to smoke in their own homes, or in smoking only areas (A smokers park perhaps, smoking only restaurants/bars, a 'smoking section' seperated and on a different air circulation system from the non-smoking section)

Used to smoke for 16 years and just gave up 5 weeks ago. Best thing I ever did. Smoking needs to be outlawed

Good choice. I smoked for twenty years, but it felt terrific when I finally kicked it.
It takes willpower, not Big Brother doing the heavy lifting for you.
I'm agreeing only up to the point of banning it for government employees and prison inmates.

An image for you: the Baccy Police with sniffer dogs, patrolling the streets and parks. Chewing tobacco makes a big comeback, cos it's easier to hide. There are gobs of brown spit everywhere, instead of cigarette butts. Black market dentists who won't turn you in for being an addict. Ah, progress.

never!!!!ever!!!!

I answered no because I do not in my daily life ... but once or twice when plastered sharing a cigar with some friends is not bad

Mr post slow!
You held off for long enough.:p
Betwixt Athar, International Incidents, IRC, offsite roleplaying, and MSN/AIM I scarcely have time for General anymore... I may quit altogether....

Murphy's Law on non-smokers:
The smoke will always drift in direction of the non-smoker.

No. I don't. Smoking is an irrational activity that's been exploited by big business that profit off of habits that increase suffering and pain to those who do it and to those who are intimately affiliated with those who do it.


There are no (credible) objective benefits to it; only objective harms.

No.

And I know how to "save the children" from the evils of smoking too. No laws. No advertising bans. No special taxes. No DARE or other similar types programs. All it takes is one special topics class in the dissection of human cadavers for anatomical study, preferably where the subject died of lung cancer. Convinced me, anyway. Having the dangers described is one thing. Being, by the end of the semester, throughly saturated in the stink of it, is another.

Not coercion, but education and rational persuasion. That's the key.

Weed, occasionally. Used to smoke tobacco socially every now and then, but stopped.

I smoke Blacks. Clove cigarettes smell and taste much better. If you're a kid, ask your parents to buy them.

The occasional, very occasional, victory cigar, but apart from that and some shisha, nope.

I don't smoke, and I prefer not to be around people who do :)

Me too. :)

used to, for 2 years. rarely cigarrettes - mostly spliifs.

10+ spliffs a day counts as smoking, i think.


quitting was easy :) (weed > tobacco)

I dont like smoking, though i like some smokers, wish they'd quit though

just pot. alllllooot of pot.

I Dont Smoke And I Will Nevr Evr Smoke Evr Period Final Etched In Stone

No, it's very unhealthy. My dad had a stroke from it.

I sort of tried it when I was 14ish, then socially again when I was about 19-20ish. I never really liked it though, and I haven't smoked another ciggie for about 10 years or more.

Dope is a different story though.

Having seen what it does to peoples' bodies, I can't go near smoke.

I only smoke when I drink, to get myself a bit more drunk, or when I'm lean to get myself a bit more lean. Otherwise it seems pretty pointless and I agree its rather gross.

I am an honest smoker in the fact that I will readily admit I enjoy smoking. I enjoy the nicotine hit I feel at the back of my throat from every drag. I don't smoke round my kids and I always ask when with company if people mind if I smoke. This has nothing to do with conciense but more to do with politeness. When it starts to affect my health I probably will give up. The only thing I hate about my habit is the cost.

Nope, I don't smoke...and, apart from those who I care about, I despise everyone else who does.

Seeing my dad nearly die from it generated that view.

Nope.

Nope.
One day, some how, some way, I am going to get you so blazed that you'll have your own pimp voice.

One day, some how, some way, I am going to get you so blazed that you'll have your own pimp voice.

Pimp voice? I don't really get what you mean by that. :confused:

Pimp voice? I don't really get what you mean by that. :confused:
When I get in the right kind of mood, I talk like a pimp. I've done it on the "what do you sound like" threads, she can't stand it.

When I get in the right kind of mood, I talk like a pimp. I've done it on the "what do you sound like" threads, she can't stand it.

Ah, right. I've missed the previous context. Do you have the cane & feathered hat too?

Ah, right. I've missed the previous context. Do you have the cane & feathered hat too?
No, but I got a stylin' Pork Pie Hat...

she can't stand it.
Quoted for truth.

I've kinda grown out of it now, but when I was younger, if I spent too much time around cigarette smoke, I'd have uncontrollable nosebleeds that would last for five to ten minutes. It was terrifying.

Quoted for truth.
Aw, bab-ay. Now don't have to play that way. I knowz you gotz luv for the velvety velvety...

I don't smoke tobbacco, but, I smoke marijuana.

I love the taste and when it hits... I adore the high. It's just so nice. The smoke is very smooth as long as the leaves aren't extremely wet or extremely dry.

Thank you for holding your breath while I smoke.

I don't smoke tobbacco, but, I smoke marijuana.

I love the taste and when it hits... I adore the high. It's just so nice. The smoke is very smooth as long as the leaves aren't extremely wet or extremely dry.
Prefrably able to stick to the wall...

i haven't smoked for nearly (or over, i've lost count) a month. i used to smoke a lot.

i haven't smoked for nearly a month. i used to smoke a lot.

Quitters never win and Winners never quit.

Yep, I smoke. No weed though, I only feel like smoking some when I'm drinking and that always has some unpleasant side-effects with me. (i.e. puking)

i used to smoke, but not very much

and sometimes i smoke when i drink, but the smoking makes me ill - it's not the booze - honest!

Cigarette and pipe smoker here. No plans on quitting any time soon, either. I enjoy both too much.

But I have stopped snorting various powders, popping assorted pills, and shooting up chemicals, so I guess that makes up for me not quitting tobacco.

Quitters never win and Winners never quit.
thanks for the support! :p

thanks for the support! :p

*tee hee*

Do you smoke?

I might like to smoke an occassional nice cigar from a certain somewhere, but I'd be admitting to engaging in a crime if I did, so, no I don't. ;)

Whenever I might smoke one of these illegal contraband cigars (which can be purchased legally here but remain a crime for me to purchase under my state of citizenship - anyone noticing a pattern of resentment here...), I make absolutely sure that I do so in a manner that avoids contaminating the air for others - as I consider secondhand smoke to be the equivilant of assault and battery.

As for general tobacco use, a plug or dip is fine and dandy, and I indulge on occassions when I can get it.

As for general tobacco use, a plug or dip is fine and dandy, and I indulge on occassions when I can get it.

Ah! Another dipper/chewer around here!

nooooo its bad for you

Nope don't smoke. I think its kinda skanky. I have smoked 1 and 1/3 ciggies in my life. I'm very glad of the smoking ban in Ireland:)

Ugh no, but I am exposed to second-hand smoke every weekend. Fuck!

I frequently smoke briar pipes, occasionally cigars, never cigarettes.

I smoke socially, when haning out with friends and having a few drinks. What about you?
grew up with a smoker, so no. never had the desire to even try it.

I don't smoke anything, but I don't really care if other people do.

After my grandfather getting so sick from smoking, and eventually dying from it, I reeeally try to avoid second-hand, and I've got no urge to try smoking. Ever.

I smoke, but not very much and some days, weeks even, I dont smoke at all.
I dont smoke in the house, or other peoples' houses, the car or restaurants (smoking and eating? eeewww). I think smoking is one of those things that isnt too bad in moderation, just like any other thing say drinking, eating meat, sunbathing etc etc. I think one should be able to stop just as easily as start.

I don't smoke but I could really use a cigarette right now

Yep, I smoke. No weed though, I only feel like smoking some when I'm drinking and that always has some unpleasant side-effects with me. (i.e. puking)

Grass before beer, you're in the clear, beer before grass, you're on your arse.

Tobacco? no.

Used to smoke. Gave it up in 1990. Haven't missed it at all.

Well, it looks like he's not a New Zealander, so he's got something going for him :D


Don't smoke. Never will.
U-:p :sniper: -Eutrusca(Yep:D )
never!!!!ever!!!!
So just your nation eh?...

Don't smoke. Never will. Bad for your health. But I am still opposed to smoking bans. It's prohibition all over again. Facism at its core.

I smoke if its offered or when someone tells me to hold it (time is money)

but no not really mostly because I can’t afford it

Hmm. I usually only smoke when I drink. I never used to be able to though, heh. Would cough and shit too much. But lungs have become a little more used to it.

U-:p :sniper: -Eutrusca(Yep:D )

Hey, do you really want to see your countryman shot? :eek: :D

every now and then I have a cigar for two reasons. 1 Its probably a special occasion. 2. everyone freaks out so hardcore about it, and they tell me "No," its bad for you. Well I dont like other people telling me what to fucking do. So to stick it to them I do opposite. That and the NAZIS were the ones to invent anti-smoking research and that cancer bullshit. smoking is healthy.

every now and then I have a cigar for two reasons. 1 Its probably a special occasion. 2. everyone freaks out so hardcore about it, and they tell me "No," its bad for you. Well I dont like other people telling me what to fucking do. So to stick it to them I do opposite. That and the NAZIS were the ones to invent anti-smoking research and that cancer bullshit. smoking is healthy.

Of course it is. It simply does wonders to your lungs. :rolleyes:

I can't stand smoking! Smokers seem to think that just because they are outside, it does not effect anyone else. This is completely untrue! It's called diffusion. Smoke travels through the air horizontally as well. If someone is smoking thirty feet away from me, I end up breathing in the thick, smelly, and disgusting smoke. Additionally, I happen to be allergic to cigarette smoke (and I knew many people who are), so when I have been accidentally inhaling the stuff for about two miunutes or more, I actually start to get very nautious and, after about five minutes, throw up. It is so terribly selfish that people think it's okay.

Did you know that according to the Surgeon General, a child spending one hour in a car with a smoker with the windows open is equivalent to that child smoking ten cigarettes themselves! It's sick, purely sick.

Pfft, where's the 'I used to smoke when I was <insert age here> but now I only do it when I'm utterly pished' option?

I'm well aware it's bad for your health. I've seen the lungs of smokers post mortem. I've seen the effects of lung cancer, throat cancer advanced emphysema. Yet no matter what I do, put me in a room of smokers when I'm really pissed (when there's no weed about) and I'll bum at least a cig from someone. I think it's horrible too; sometimes I think a couple of my mates give me fags when I'm drunk so they can tell me to quit whining about their smoking because I do it too.

Weak-willed a go go.

That and the NAZIS were the ones to invent anti-smoking research and that cancer bullshit. smoking is healthy.

You are right.
They invented anti-smoking research to prevent other people from smoking, so they would be the only ones who got the superpowers people get when they smoke. Superpowers like cancer and the ability of running a minute and start coughing.

When it starts to affect my health I probably will give up.

Smoking affects your health from the first cigarette.

You are right.
They invented anti-smoking research to prevent other people from smoking, so they would be the only ones who got the superpowers people get when they smoke. Superpowers like cancer and the ability of running a minute and start coughing.
Actually, he is right to a limited extent. Nazi scientists were the first in the world to suggest a link between the rise in cigarette consumption and the increased number of lung cancer victims. The nazi govt. was the most anti-smoking government of its time.

Where he goes wrong is that there's fairly conclusive evidence that smoking a stick full of carcinogens might just give you cancer, hence it's not bullshit.

Smoking affects your health from the first cigarette.
That depends how you look at it. A very light smoker who lives far in the countryside probably has healthier lungs that a non-smoker in the suburbs.

The country smoker's lungs have still been adversely affected.

About a pack every two, three days. I'm sure my friends have a pool out for when I'm officially addicted. Right now, I probably could quit if I really wanted, but I don't care.

The country smoker's lungs have still been adversely affected.
Yes, but possibly no more than they would have been living in the city. Especially if they went to bars fairly regularly.

I'm not saying smoking isn't harmful. Far from it, in fact, I've read that something like 50% of smokers will die early from a smoking-related illness. I'm just saying that if you either smoke rarely, or quit smoking before too long, your chances of contracting a smoking-related disease are greatly reduced. One cigarette will not kill you and you'd be damned unlucky to develop carcinoma.

But one cigarette will still affect your health (albeit a very small effect).

But one cigarette will still affect your health (albeit a very small effect).
See, that's just splitting hairs. Holding your breath for an extended period of time affects your health. Picking your nose affects your health. Hell, breathing in and out in a modern climate affects your health. Smoking regularly is something to worry about. Smoking once, purely to see what it's like, isn't.

Actually, he is right to a limited extent. Nazi scientists were the first in the world to suggest a link between the rise in cigarette consumption and the increased number of lung cancer victims. The nazi govt. was the most anti-smoking government of its time.

Where he goes wrong is that there's fairly conclusive evidence that smoking a stick full of carcinogens might just give you cancer, hence it's not bullshit.

I didn´t say that nazis weren´t the ones to invent anti-smoking research.
What I suggested was that the fact that nazis were the ones to invent anti-smoking research wasn´t a good reason to smoke.

Never picked up a cigarette. Marrying a woman who also hasn't. Frankly, there are a few things i personally don't approve of, and among them are cigarettes and alcohol. I wouldn't shed a tear if either of them were outlawed completely, though a total ban on either may cause more harm than good.

However, a fair number of people have allergies to cigarette smoke, including my fiancee, so I am all for smoking bans in a lot of public places. I don't believe that restaurants and places like that have the right to determine whether to allow smoking or not. It's no different from whether a restaurant decides, "Well, that rule about washing hands after using the bathroom...it's stupid and I don't feel like enforcing it. It's my right as the owner." In that case, the rules are there for a reason. I don't want salmonella poisoning, but I don't want to breathe cigarette smoke any more than I want salmonella poisoning.

I won't sit here and pretend to be all virtuous and healthy or anything; as I type this post, I am enjoying Fiery Habanero Doritos and a liter of Coke. I am mostly pretty healthy, having only the occasional cold, a nagging cough, and a broken ankle from February that probably won't even heal correctly. I won't sit here and claim that having one cigarette will give you cancer, any more than forgetting to brush your teeth one night will cause your teeth to rot. I will also say that smoking won't kill everyone; I don't think anyone's trying to make that claim. However, people who smoke often hurt others. I don't know that my penchant for Doritos, chicken wings, and Coke is hurting too many people.

I don't know that my penchant for Doritos, chicken wings, and Coke is hurting too many people.

Think about the poor little chickens.:)

I smoke.

There, I've given you all yet another reason to hate and/or have me banned from the forums.

Happy now?

Geez, what's with the persecution complex?

Oh and I smoke too.

Think about the poor little chickens.:)

I know, and I really should go easier on the chicken, since my bird might not approve, but then again, he's a Budgie and I've actually read that they, too, eat chicken. It's borderline crazy that a bird would eat another bird...it's almost the same as if I fed St. Bernard to my Yorkie...but then again, humans in general don't object to eating chicken. Hindus condemn eating beef, Jews and Muslims condemn eating pork, and Jews and probably some hardcore Christians condemn eating shellfish. As far as I know, chicken and fish are safe, probably because the preparation of chicken is far less likely to kill you. After all, isn't that how the Old Testament acme to the conclusion that eating pork and shellfish was bad? Because they didn't have the means to heat it to a frooglepoopillion degrees to kill all the harmful bacteria, so people ate it and died, so the people just assumed God didn't want them to eat pork? I might just come to that conclusion at the same time.

Geez, what's with the persecution complex?
It's reflexive, purely reflexive. There's really nobody from Health & Welfare Canada monitoring my behaviour for a Federally-funded study. Honestly.

The problem is that smoking in places like bars, is a health hazard to the people who work there. No amount of smoke-free sections can solve that problem, so ultimately, it's useless to try. It only works if an establishment is completely smoke-free.

But how does one solve this, without creating new problems? Smokers obviously needs places to hang out, just like everyone else. Smoking employees prolly won't have any great qualms about working in a second-hand smoke environment.
Yet from a business perspective, it's a lousy idea to outlaw smoking in an establishment. It'll do away with half the potential profits. And what about the non-smoking workers? Should they get hazard pay, seeing as they're much more likely die in agony at a much younger age? And what about the modern countries where we have public healthcare? Employees exposed to second-hand smoke will likely be much more of a burden on the health care system than everyone else, so should the employers pay a special health care tax?

The allergic fiancé shite doesn't concern me in the slightest. She's not forced to hang out with smokers. If she actively seeks out their company, then it's her problem, not theirs. Or would you have them flee from place to place, chased by people with respiratory problems? Don't be absurd.

A ban on smoking in public places is only warrented when it's public places people have to go, that aren't in open air. Beyond that it's just harasment.

Smoked a pack and a half a day or more from 1972 thru 1982. Haven't smoked a cig since. No such thing as casual smoking for me personally. Quitting smoking was the hardest thing I think I've ever had to do.

I do not and never will

I smoked for 8 years, and quit two months ago...
cigarettes, at least.
By the way, I know its my first post, sorry, but my account got deleted back when I went to basic training, I used to be HadesRulesMuch, although I have only seen a few familiar faces.

A ban on smoking in public places is only warrented when it's public places people have to go, that aren't in open air. Beyond that it's just harasment.
Especially bars, because more people smoke socially than simply because they like smoking. Beer in one hand, cigarette in the other, its the same at any bar where smoking is allowed.

nope, but i dont mind if other people do. i may leave or back away a little if the smoke is blowing directly into my face.

I don't get the whole social smoking thing. A lot of my friends have done it, and always feel rough the next day.

I can't stand smoke myself.

I don't get the whole social smoking thing. A lot of my friends have done it, and always feel rough the next day.

I can't stand smoke myself.

They feel "rough" the next day? That sounds more like they were gettin blitzed with some blueberry than smoking cigarettes...

Damm, I voted YES.
But I don't smoke cigarettes, I thought this topic was about weed.

Okay, so take one away from the yes column and put on the NO.

Doesn´t weed still count?
I mean it´s like smoking, only worse.

They feel "rough" the next day? That sounds more like they were gettin blitzed with some blueberry than smoking cigarettes...

Sweet, last time I smoked blueberry it felt like my head was a balloon attatched to my body by a string.

Doesn´t weed still count?
I mean it´s like smoking, only worse.

No weed doesn't count because cigarette smokers average a pack a day, I know people that smoke 2 packs a day.
They smoke cigarettes in public.
On the other hand, I average about half a blunt/ 10 bong rips a day and it does done away from normal people, so no one gets bothered by second hand smoke.

I smoke socially, when haning out with friends and having a few drinks. What about you?

Constantly.

Bleh, smoking is for smokers that smoke smoke while smoting those around them with their second-hand smoke. (say that fast three times :p )

Sucks
Money wasted
Only harms
Kills
Illness
Needs to be banned
Gives me a headache

Depends. If it's a nice quality cigar, sure. Or weed. But never a cigarette. I'm afraid of those.