NationStates Jolt Archive

I am just curoius what is everybodies first language. Mine is Japanese.

Spanish, with neutral accent, although I can do argentinian, colombian, mexican...My Castilian is pretty perfect, too.

Gibberish.


Some argue I have not learned another yet.

English. The proper one! :D

I am just curoius what is everybodies first language. Mine is Japanese.
mine was something along the lines of "Boo boo gaa gaa"... then I learned English... then American. :)

My last language is Omicron Persei Eightese.

mine was something along the lines of "Boo boo gaa gaa"... then I learned English... then American. :)



You know what I mean spammer. :p

English. Woot.

Hey, there's a poll now! When'd that happen?

mine's english.

my dad's was Welsh, and my mum's was German (of which i speak a little)

English with a California accent, or as we call it, a lack of accent.:)

Hey, there's a poll now! When'd that happen?


About 10 seconds ago.

English

mine's english.

my dad's was Welsh, and my mum's was German (of which i speak a little)
GUTEN TAG, Allied Pigdog! (ah, Wolfenstine 3-D, how I miss you...)

English with a California accent, or as we call it, a lack of accent.:)



WTF is a californian accent? I live in California and have no clue what that is.

Well mine is american I say that because right now i'm in the process of learning english and british slang, also french.

GUTEN TAG, Allied Pigdog! (ah, Wolfenstine 3-D, how I miss you...)
ah, the nazis were always so polite :)

WTF is a californian accent? I live in California and have no clue what that is.

Exactly what I said in the second part of the sentance, a lack of accent.

Its just english with no accent...sorta like how they speak in Las Vegas...Or Washington State...or South Florida.

Exactly what I said in the second part of the sentance, a lack of accent.

Its just english with no accent...sorta like how they speak in Las Vegas...Or Washington State...or South Florida.
what does an english english accent translate as in your book?

just posh? :P

American

what does an english english accent translate as in your book?

just posh? :P

Lol..I admit my system is biased and strange.

But there is different American accents...Southern, New York, Boston...Mid West..you know that whole thing, and there is the 'California accent' which is just a lack of accent. Its usually how people speak in movies and on tv...just plain.

As for English English accent....Well I think of it as the English speak with an accent, but then there are like sub accents that different types of British speak.

Are dizzy yet?:p

Exactly what I said in the second part of the sentance, a lack of accent.

Its just english with no accent...sorta like how they speak in Las Vegas...Or Washington State...or South Florida.

I'm always amused by people who claim to have "no accent." Try telling that to an Englishman. ;)

American



For crying out loud! American is NOT a language! Americans speak english!

WTF is a californian accent? I live in California and have no clue what that is.
Actually no accent is Omaha, midwest. California has several accents. There's, like, ohmygod-Valley. There is surfer, dude. There are innercity accents that border on dialects (that'll start an argument). For the most part it's a softening of hard constanant sounds at the ends of words, like goin' instead of going. It's an accent that trails towards the end. There are some SoCal accents that use long vowel sounds as well (I just worked with a guy who had that one really thick, it was disorienting). Depends on where you're from and your opinion of the word 'hella'.

I'm always amused by people who claim to have "no accent." Try telling that to an Englishman. ;)

Well, people in California, South Florida, and most of the West dont really have an accent...I guess that saying doesnt apply to people in England, but here it..sorta..does.

Ik spreek Nederlands :)

My first language is dutch. I could elaborate on my accent and dialect but I won't :D

For crying out loud! American is NOT a language! Americans speak english!

Don't even try, it doesn't matter that half the continent speak spanish, their language, their english, is the "american" language.

Don't even try, it doesn't matter that half the continent speak spanish, their language, their english, is the "american" language.

Uh, if your talking about North America...half the continent DOESNT speak Spanish.

America and Canada are Anglo (and French).

Ik spreek Nederlands :)

My first language is dutch. I could elaborate on my accent and dialect but I won't :D

I like Dutch...it has soo many cool sounds that I, as an English speaker, am totally jealous about.

I wish we had your cool sounds in our language.

(See the song Het Land Van for the sounds I'm talking about):)

Lol..I admit my system is biased and strange.

But there is different American accents...Southern, New York, Boston...Mid West..you know that whole thing, and there is the 'California accent' which is just a lack of accent. Its usually how people speak in movies and on tv...just plain.



Heh - speaking as an amateur linguist who follows this stuff, actually, the Midwestern accent is the one newscasters and such are trained to emulate, and which is considered to be the closest to a "general American" accent. The "Californian accent" is just very, very similar to it. I suspect what you're thinking of as the "Midwestern" accent is really the Appalachian/Southern-central type "hillbilly" accent, which is actually fairly rare in the Midwest, except in specific regional pockets. [/language nerd] :)

Uh, if your talking about North America...half the continent DOESNT speak Spanish.

America and Canada are Anglo (and French).

He said, "American", not "North American", sorry

Read well, then write, that's the way it works

Midwestern American English

Don't even try, it doesn't matter that half the continent speak spanish, their language, their english, is the "american" language.


Half? Please. Americans mean the people from the USA as those people are americans and the only ones to call themselves as such. The majority speak english, close to if not above 90%.

Heh - speaking as an amateur linguist who follows this stuff, actually, the Midwestern accent is the one newscasters and such are trained to emulate, and which is considered to be the closest to a "general American" accent. The "Californian accent" is just very, very similar to it. I suspect what you're thinking of as the "Midwestern" accent is really the Appalachian/Southern-central type "hillbilly" accent, which is actually fairly rare in the Midwest, except in specific regional pockets. [/language nerd] :)

Your not lying.:)

Anyway, whatever...Us Californians and South Floridians speak English with ALMOST no accent.:p

Well, people in California, South Florida, and most of the West dont really have an accent...I guess that saying doesnt apply to people in England, but here it..sorta..does.

Oh, it applies perfectly.......in California. Do you think someone from Alabama would believe you to have "no accent"? :)

I'm surprised Esperanto's not on there, since it's supposed to be the international language of the future. :cool:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_American

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_English

My crazy language of choice.

I'm surprised Esperanto's not on there, since it's supposed to be the international language of the future. :cool:
But do you know anyone who can speak it?

Half? Please. Americans mean the people from the USA as those people are americans and the only ones to call themselves as such. The majority speak english, close to if not above 90%.

Ahem...Let's start

People that live in the continent of America, including citizens of the United States, call themselves americans, not only the citizens of such States. If America is a continent, and is called as such, then all the inhabitants of such continent should be called americans. Half the people of that continent, counting from the USA-Mexico border, that by the already explained argument are americans, speak spanish, and even to the north, inside the United States border, there is a more than significant minority, (the biggest minority there) that still speaks spanish and are called latinos o Hispanic-Hispanos.

So, half americans speak spanish, perhaps even more, but then US english is called american for reasons I am not aware of.

He said, "American", not "North American", sorry

Read well, then write, that's the way it works

Well then regardless hes wrong, because half of America does NOT speak Spanish...most of us, like the Japanese-American above me posted, speak english...around 90%.

Well then regardless hes wrong, because half of America does NOT speak Spanish...most of us, like the Japanese-American above me posted, speak english...around 90%.

Half of the american continent, that comprises a lot of countries that mayhaps you are not aware of their existence and yet exist?

English with a California accent, or as we call it, a lack of accent.:)
It sounds kinda like a mix between western, and English accent.

Your not lying.:)

Anyway, whatever...Us Californians and South Floridians speak English with ALMOST no accent.:p

Hee. The real point is that there's no such thing as someone with "no accent." Accents are in the eye (well, ear) of the beholder - as far as a Texan, an Australian, or a Bostonian is concerned, you probably have a nice thick accent. To me, a Midwesterner, you likely have slight traces of an accent. It's all relative. :)

I like Dutch...it has soo many cool sounds that I, as an English speaker, am totally jealous about.

I wish we had your cool sounds in our language.

(See the song Het Land Van for the sounds I'm talking about):)

Hmm, which sounds do you mean exactly?

althought you can say that american is english its not it is to diffrent but you can't say it is american because neither american or english is the national language. I think we should all learn russian it's hot.

But do you know anyone who can speak it?

I actually know a couple of people who can speak Esperanto. I have no idea when or if they'll ever have occasion to use it, but they can. :p

My native language is Dutch without any distinct dialect.

My native language is Dutch without any distinct dialect.

So, where do you come from? No dialect, even no accent? I mean, I'm speaking dutch with an accent most of the times and sometimes even a dialect :)

I speak mostly English, but I can do a little French and American Sign Language. (But, no pop quizzes please.)

I speak the glorious language of Other.....wonderful tongue...and ancient too. Developed by mountian tribes in Otherland.

WTF is a californian accent? I live in California and have no clue what that is.

We tend to say "like" a lot when talking. That is about the extent of our accent.

Born and raised in Canada, so first language would be English.

So, where do you come from? No dialect, even no accent? I mean, I'm speaking dutch with an accent most of the times and sometimes even a dialect :)
I'm from Culemborg (halfway between Den-Bosch and Utrecht). I don't have the regional dialect. I suppose it's just ABN that I speak.

my first language was 1337.

Who speaks russian. Thats tight I think I am gonna learn it cause alex that is to say ov is russian.:p

I speak primarily English.
I'm learning French, Swahili, and Esperanto.
Might learn Banji. Depends if I ever master any of the others.

Much like England, North America does feature a variety of accents, but they're often not as distinct as, say, Cornish or Geordie.

But some of them are. I'm confident that most visitors to Lynchburg, Tennessee would have trouble with the local accent. Similarly, the south coast of Newfoundland...

This is going to sound stupid but what is Esperanto.

This is going to sound stupid but what is Esperanto.

This. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto)

This is going to sound stupid but what is Esperanto.

Esperanto is an engineered language. It was designed to be a universal language because it's no one's native tongue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto

edit: brutal typo

Ahem...Let's start

People that live in the continent of America, including citizens of the United States, call themselves americans, not only the citizens of such States. If America is a continent, and is called as such, then all the inhabitants of such continent should be called americans. Half the people of that continent, counting from the USA-Mexico border, that by the already explained argument are americans, speak spanish, and even to the north, inside the United States border, there is a more than significant minority, (the biggest minority there) that still speaks spanish and are called latinos o Hispanic-Hispanos.

So, half americans speak spanish, perhaps even more, but then US english is called american for reasons I am not aware of.


Let me break it down for you. Only people of the US call themselves american.

Mexico = Mexican
Brazil = Brazilian
Argentina = Argentine
Cuba = Cuban
Canada = Canadian


Get it? Only the people of the US call themselves american and almost 90% speak english. This whole US people are not americans thing needs to stop.

my first language was 1337.

My father's mother tongue was 1337, and that's all we spoke at home, but sadly he left home when I was 35 so I lost most of it since then.

But no, it's serbo-croatian, then english, then swedish...

Esperanto is an engineering language. It was designed to be a universal language because it's no one's native tongue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto
I love Esperanto!!! :D

Dutch... learned English when I was 3...

This is going to sound stupid but what is Esperanto.

An artificial language, that was developed to be a lingua franca for the world - ad never really caught on.

My first language is English, with a traditional BBC British accent. (North West Surrey)

We tend to say "like" a lot when talking. That is about the extent of our accent.


I live in California and I have yet to use that word regulary and most don't use it.

Get it? Only the people of the US call themselves american and almost 90% speak english. This whole US people are not americans thing needs to stop.

See the stickies please and drop the subject. :headbang:

United Chicken Kleptos, I say like and I'm on the East Coast with a Southern accent. Soooo not a Cali thing.

Let me break it down for you. Only people of the US call themselves american.

Mexico = Mexican
Brazil = Brazilian
Argentina = Argentine
Cuba = Cuban
Canada = Canadian


Get it? Only the people of the US call themselves american and almost 90% speak english. This whole US people are not americans thing needs to stop.

Ooooh, when they refer to their nationals only, yes, but I was talking about the population of the CONTINENT, you smart mind! Ask an argentinian how he refers to people that lives in the continent of America, or a Cuban, or a Mexican, and he will say "americanos" or americans...Is that really THAT hard to explain?

I never said that the US people are not americans, they indeed are americans. They just happen to be not the only ones.

Another dulll knife in the drawer, I guess...

Let me break it down for you. Only people of the US call themselves american.

Mexico = Mexican
Brazil = Brazilian
Argentina = Argentine
Cuba = Cuban
Canada = Canadian


Get it? Only the people of the US call themselves american and almost 90% speak english. This whole US people are not americans thing needs to stop.

I've heard many times the following: "Most south americans speak spanish...". Their continent is also America. But, as you said, when you just say 'American', I would assume a person from the US.

Well then regardless hes wrong, because half of America does NOT speak Spanish...most of us, like the Japanese-American above me posted, speak english...around 90%.



Agreed.

What is 1337?

United Chicken Kleptos, I say like and I'm on the East Coast with a Southern accent. Soooo not a Cali thing.

Every third word you say is like?

Ooooh, when they refer to their nationals only, yes, but I was talking about the population of the CONTINENT, you smart mind! Ask an argentinian how he refers to people that lives in the continent of America, or a Cuban, or a Mexican, and he will say "americanos" or americans...Is that really THAT hard to explain?

I never said that the US people are not americans, they indeed are americans. They just happen to be not the only ones.

Another dulll knife in the drawer, I guess...


Why is it so hard for people to understand that people from the USA are the only ones that call themselves americans? Ask a person from Mexico if he thinks he is an american, that person will say he is a mexican. The people of the USA are the only ones to call themselves as american and if you ask anybody in the hemisphere what they think of americans and they will talk about the USA. Just admitt you are wrong and move on.

Another dull knife in the drawer, I guess.......

Every third word you say is like?
Like yeah, I mean, like, I can't help but say like.

What is 1337?



Leet.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet

What is 1337?
Lol, it's gamer language, don't ask...

What is 1337?


See definiton here (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=1337)....:p

What is 1337?

+|-|15 15 1337 /\/00|3

1 ?\/\//\/20|22 |_| |_0|_!!!11

really i'm not as stupid as I seem.

Why is it so hard for people to understand that people from the USA are the only ones that call themselves americans?
Because they aren't. And this topic has been debated to death so don't bother.


And to stay on topic - my first language is English. And I agree with The Atlantian islands, I too would love to learn to speak Dutch, it has the best sounds. The only thing I can say though is "Ik spreek geen Nederlands":( . I think thats right. *shrugs*

Like yeah, I mean, like, I can't help but say like.

Damn... Then I don't know the Californian accent...

I think I'd like to learn dutch since I'm part thatdutch that is.

WTF is a californian accent? I live in California and have no clue what that is.

It's like, you know, "Hey, dude, I'm outa here, I'm goin' surfin!"

Check out Spicoli in Fast Times at Ridgemont High

And I speak as a SoCal native.

Because they aren't. And this topic has been debated to death so don't bother.

Those people are crazy.

Those people are crazy.


Alberta? I assume you are from Canada. Do you call yourself an american?

I love spicolli. It's alright I know I speak with somewhat hawaiian accent/southern drawl/minnesota eh speak.

Australian usually see people from canada as canadian. Anyway on the language thing, I spoke thai first then french then mandarin then english.

Alberta? I assume you are from Canada. Do you call yourself an american?

Read: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=488660 : inwardly digest and shut up about it.

English, it's the only language i know. I took French in school, but most of it didn't stick, i'm not good with languages.

Read: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=488660 : inwardly digest and shut up about it.


Don't tell me what to do. Now you shut up about it. Just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean everybody can't talk about it. :rolleyes: It's not like I am making a thread about it.

Don't tell me what to do. Now you shut up about it. Just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean everybody can't talk about it. :rolleyes: It's not like I am making a thread about it.
Kat=mod. Mods word=law.

Kat=mod. Mods word=law.



The thread said enough USian threads. This is NOT a USian thread. So shut up about it. This wasn't even a USian thing I was talking about.


Now, do you realize that by responding you KEEP this alive and it would have ended quikly without your trolling? So you want it over, don't respond. Now stop!

Spanish, with neutral accent, although I can do argentinian, colombian, mexican...My Castilian is pretty perfect, too.
Which Mexican? I do Gulf, Mexico City (2 varieties), and Northern, more or less well. Yucateco and Eastern Mexican not so good, but ok.

I wasn't trolling, I was making an attempt at keeping you out of trouble (as was AB)

My apologies.

I wasn't trolling, I was making an attempt at keeping you out of trouble.

My apologies.


I had stopped anyway. It would have faded away quikly as everybody had dropped it. If you think thios was gonna get me introuble you could have said that....I respond to politeness.

Half? Please. Americans mean the people from the USA as those people are americans and the only ones to call themselves as such. The majority speak english, close to if not above 90%.
Nope. They aren't the only ones.

Nope. They aren't the only ones.


Drop it! I won't respond to any post that even comes close to that again. Drop it please!

I had stopped anyway. It would have faded away quikly as everybody had dropped it. If you think thios was gonna get me introuble you could have said that....I respond to politeness.
When you're not polite to begin with, don't expect politeness in return.

Anyway, I leave now.

Uh, if your talking about North America...half the continent DOESNT speak Spanish.
USA, Canada, Mexico, Greenland, Guatemala, El Salvador, Cuba, República Dominicana, etc. Half the North American continent speaks Spanish.

Drop it! I won't respond to any post that even comes close to that again. Drop it please!
Just correcting your misinformation. I'm Mexican and American.

English, which despite being born and raised in New York City sounds pretty neutral american. I'm also learning Spanish and have have a good level of proficiency in it.

English. Ever sence I moved to North Carolina I started sounding like a hick (dun yonder in dem dare woods bah der fisshin pund). :(

I also know a little Spanish.

English is my first language.

USA, Canada, Mexico, Greenland, Guatemala, El Salvador, Cuba, República Dominicana, etc. Half the North American continent speaks Spanish.

The generally accepted 'North America' is Canada, America, and Mexico (and I guess Greenland)....thus, more than half speak English.

Central America is usually seperated from North America, in encyclopedias and such.

Hmm, which sounds do you mean exactly?

The harsh gutteral sounds that I have only heard in German, Dutch and Hebrew. I guess it would be some sort of CH sound...we dont have it in English so I dont know how to exlain it in font.

Also the really deep and U that comes from the throat.

I also like how people who speak Dutch and German are able to roll their r's.

Cool language, I approve.:)

The generally accepted 'North America' is Canada, America, and Mexico (and I guess Greenland)....thus, more than half speak English.

Central America is usually seperated from North America, in encyclopedias and such.
Central America is usually considered the souther part of North America, not a separate continent. Like saying Scandinavia and Europe.

Even if we accept your definition of North America, Spanish would be the second language, with between 35 to 40% of speakers.

Central America is usually considered the souther part of North America, not a separate continent. Like saying Scandinavia and Europe.

Even if we accept your definition of North America, Spanish would be the second language, with between 35 to 40% of speakers.

Meh...I dont know, in school I learned that We had North America, Central and then the Carribbean, but I think this is just a case of what you were taught in school.

Yes, I know that Spanish would be the second language in my definition, obviously. :p

Are you Mexican?

The harsh gutteral sounds that I have only heard in German, Dutch and Hebrew. I guess it would be some sort of CH sound...we dont have it in English so I dont know how to exlain it in font.

Also the really deep and U that comes from the throat.

I also like how people who speak Dutch and German are able to roll their r's.

Cool language, I approve.:)

I hate the "sound" of German. It sounds like verbal shit for some reason. Even saying "I love you" in German sounds like your cussing somebody out.

On the other hand, I love the sound of Spanish. Very sexy language.

Meh...I dont know, in school I learned that We had North America, Central and then the Carribbean, but I think this is just a case of what you were taught in school.
School... they used to teach me a lot of wrong things in school.

Are you Mexican?
Yup.

My first language is Spanish...im from Chile and i consider myself as an American.

Why is it so hard for people to understand that people from the USA are the only ones that call themselves americans?

because they are not the only people in America, America is a continent not a country

Americans mean the people from the USA

no, American means you are a person from America one of the 6 continents of Earth

PS:you dont have to answer those quotes if you dont want to

I hate the "sound" of German. It sounds like verbal shit for some reason. Even saying "I love you" in German sounds like your cussing somebody out.

On the other hand, I love the sound of Spanish. Very sexy language.

Haha, German is a mans language...It sounds amazing and gives the speaker the ability to make the coolest sounds.

Spanish is...ok...sorta boring, Italian can kick Spanish's ass anyday. But German could sodomize all their asses. :p

no, American means you are a person from America one of the 6 continents of Earth

PS:you dont have to answer those quotes if you dont want to

Actually, theres 7 continents. North America, South America, Antartica, Europe, Africa, Asia, Australia.

Haha, German is a mans language...It sounds amazing and gives the speaker the ability to make the coolest sounds.

Spanish is...ok...sorta boring, Italian can kick Spanish's ass anyday. But German could sodomize all their asses. :p

German's fucking hawt! :eek:

Haha, German is a mans language...It sounds amazing and gives the speaker the ability to make the coolest sounds.

Spanish is...ok...sorta boring, Italian can kick Spanish's ass anyday. But German could sodomize all their asses. :p
German sucks. It's even worse than Dutch. And cool sounds? They're just horrible throat sounds that hardly anyone who isn't a native speaker can pronounce.

German sucks. It's even worse than Dutch. And cool sounds? They're just horrible throat sounds that hardly anyone who isn't a native speaker can pronounce.

Aww, why do you hate your language and your neighbors language...I wish I could speak them both!

(I'll be taking German classes this fall) :)

I can pronounce your deep U's and I find them really cool sounding. As for your throat clearing CH sounds, I can already pronounce those from when I learned a bit of Hebrew.:) Hebrew is also a harsh language, by the way with those same throat clearing sounds.

Aww, why do you hate your language and your neighbors language...I wish I could speak them both!

(I'll be taking German classes this fall) :)

I can pronounce your deep U's and I find them really cool sounding. As for your throat clearing CH sounds, I can already pronounce those from when I learned a bit of Hebrew.:) Hebrew is also a harsh language, by the way with those same throat clearing sounds.
I just hate the harshness of it. I much more a fan of the roman languages.

I just hate the harshness of it. I much more a fan of the roman languages.

lol. Well, I suppose the grass is always greener.....

As you are Dutch, I'd like to know what you think of the song Het Land Van?

lol. Well, I suppose the grass is always greener.....

As you are Dutch, I'd like to know what you think of the song Het Land Van?
Well, I don't know the song. Is it pop-music? I don't follow the charts.

Actually, theres 7 continents. North America, South America, Antartica, Europe, Africa, Asia, Australia.

no rly there are 6 continents America isnt divided, SA and NA are part of the same continent just a division created by languages and imagination

no rly there are 6 continents America isnt divided, SA and NA are part of the same continent just a division created by languages and imagination
Meh, it's all arbitrary. You could by your logic make the case for there being only 4 continents. As Europe/Asia/Africa are all connected to each other too.

Well, I don't know the song. Is it pop-music? I don't follow the charts.

No no no...its like, your national anthem, dude, haha.

I have a Dutch friend and she sent me this song like a week and a half ago, I cant get over it, its fucking awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp7_RWPPjXE&search=het%20land%20van

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_Het_Land_Van

No no no...its like, your national anthem, dude, haha.

I have a Dutch friend and she sent me this song like a week and a half ago, I cant get over it, its fucking awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp7_RWPPjXE&search=het%20land%20van

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_Het_Land_Van
Ugh, I fricking hate it. It was all over the radio for ages. And I'm not a fan of the type of music. That and the guys are quite pretentious.

Meh, it's all arbitrary. You could by your logic make the case for there being only 4 continents. As Europe/Asia/Africa are all connected to each other too.

Exactly...only nobody does that, just like nobody [official] says that North and South America arnt seperate.

Ugh, I fricking hate it. It was all over the radio for ages. And I'm not a fan of the type of music. That and the guys are quite pretetious.

OMG! Can you give me your Dutch-ness!

Why do you not like it, though? Is it just that, like you said, your not a fan of that type of music, or is it the lyrics, or what?

Haha, I actually like those guys, alot.

My favorite line is about plundering the world and calling it a Golden Age!:D

My first language would have to be American Sign Language, as it's the very first language I was ever exposed to.

OMG! Can you give me your Dutch-ness!

Why do you not like it, though? Is it just that, like you said, your not a fan of that type of music, or is it the lyrics, or what?

Haha, I actually like those guys, alot.

My favorite line is about plundering the world and calling it a Golden Age!:D
I don't like the music and the lyrics aren't too strong either. It's just a 'deep' song for the MTV/TMF crowd.

I don't like the music and the lyrics aren't too strong either. It's just a 'deep' song for the MTV/TMF crowd.

Aww, see thats what I love about it..Its deep and just dives into the nation.

It inspired me to write one about my nation:

This is the country of;

This is the country of the eagle…. the stripes and stars.
The land which gave us oil shortages for real …..and gas guzzlin cars.

The country which is more… than what we appear
The country that makes the earth our whore…. Because of utter awe and fear.


I’m from the land of the red…the white and blue.
The country which may occasionally lose its head….. but always stay true.


We invaded Iraq with our military….and we are having problems.
But we influenced the rest of the world, behind their backs… some say we robbed them.


This is the country of the fat… the stupid and the apathetic,
Yet we still succeed in ruling the world….. and only some of us regret it.


This is the country where the word segregation…… it came to birth.
We freed our blacks 150 years back as a demonstration…..but still they toil…. in the white mans earth.


This is the country of the American patriot…..who speaks one language.
And is accused by Mandarin hatred…of being brain dead.


This is the land, where people came together …..and a country was born.
But it is the very same land, with our political parties here forever…. that make our country torn.


America is the country …..where the liberators of the world… were born and raised
But it’s the country of their grandsons… that has been swirled…. beat to a daze.


Whatever happened to the foundation of our four fathers?
The country that promised to fight tyranny, injustice, kings…. and German field marshals?


We fight the worlds problems but look past our own.
We forget that the fight for liberation… starts at home.


This is the land of the people, who scream in fear of nipple,
But it’s the very same land, whose people’s screams…. in fear of violence….dont create a ripple.

We glare at Africa and the nations of it on the poverty and AIDs list,
Yet we forget to glance and glare down south at New Orleans…the Africa in our midst.

Most of us would rather see us retreat, run away from our duties,
They say the job that we’re doing isn’t worth what we are losing….a moms teenage beauty.

And even though we have our issues,
This is the country that always overcomes.
And once America pulls out of the Middle East, (we wont miss you),
We will strive to retain our position….our place as number 1.

America, though at times it may seem like your light is fading,
Stay strong, and remember, my heart and soul lie with you…. eternally illuminating.

no rly there are 6 continents America isnt divided, SA and NA are part of the same continent just a division created by languages and imagination

Well... one could say Europe, Africa and all of Asia are one continent cuz technically they're connected to one another.

No no no...its like, your national anthem, dude, haha.

I have a Dutch friend and she sent me this song like a week and a half ago, I cant get over it, its fucking awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp7_RWPPjXE&search=het%20land%20van

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_Het_Land_Van


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA! i'M sorry but that was terrible! That guy would get laughed off the planet in the US. But comedy none the less. Send him to harlem, should be fun.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA! i'M sorry but that was terrible! That guy would get laughed off the planet in the US. But comedy none the less. Send him to harlem, should be fun.

Uh...Its in Dutch, I wouldnt expect it to be big here.

It wasnt Comedy.

And why would you send a Dutch singer to Harlem, in fact, why would you send anybody to Harlem?

Uh...Its in Dutch, I wouldnt expect it to be big here.

It wasnt Comedy.

And why would you send a Dutch singer to Harlem, in fact, why would you send anybody to Harlem?
To be laughed at because he can't rap? :p

English.

But I wish it were something cool like Russian or Klingon.

To be laughed at because he can't rap? :p

lol, well, hes good in my eyes.

Ok...lets change the subject...What do you think of your Dutch hottie, Elize?

To be laughed at because he can't rap? :p


Thats it. i was thinking, so THATS what happened to Vanilla Ice. :D I had to listen to some AC/DC to recover after that!

hablo Ingles y solamente Ingles, o no:p

hablo Ingles y solamente Ingles, o no:p

Yo hablo Ingles, pero yo puede hablar un poco Espanol.

Cuando yo voy a la universidad, voy a estudiar Aleman (sp). Aleman es un mas buena idioma que Espanol.:p

Wtf? I'm the only one whose first language is French on the whole NS General board?

Wtf? I'm the only one whose first language is French on the whole NS General board?

Yes. This is an Anglo forum, GTFO!


Just kidding.:p

Wtf? I'm the only one whose first language is French on the whole NS General board?


There is somebody else.

Yes. This is an Anglo forum, GTFO!


Just kidding.:p
GTFO? What,s that supposed to mean? :confused:

Please tell me it's not Get The Fuck Out.

There is somebody else.
I can speak crappy French. I usually end up calling the person stupid, calling the person a fish, or accusing the person of eating my dog.

Yo hablo Ingles, pero yo puede hablar un poco Espanol.

Cuando yo voy a la universidad, voy a estudiar Aleman (sp). Aleman es un mas buena idioma que Espanol.:p
Pero Espanol es mujer que Alemán y Alemán es por NAZIS. jk:p

There is somebody else.
Yes, now there is. O_o

Est-ce que c'est toi qui vient de voter pour ça?

Je me serais attendu à ce que Les Drapeaux Brûlants parle français.

GTFO? What,s that supposed to mean? :confused:

Please tell me it's not Get The Fuck Out.

DING DING DING DING...Henry, we have a winner!
What do we got for em, Johnny?

Johnny: "A brand new car!"

Yes, now there is. O_o

Est-ce que c'est toi qui vient de voter pour ça?

Je me serais attendu à ce que Les Drapeaux Brûlants parle français.

Impossible language.

DING DING DING DING...Henry, we have a winner!
What do we got for em, Johnny?

Johnny: "A brand new car!"

Mean bastard. Rudeness will get you nowhere with me!


Impossible language.
It's clearly possible. I mean, I'm living proof.

Ce n'est vraiment pas difficile à apprendre. Et en plus, c'est une langue tellement plus poétique et plus belle que l'anglais.

Pero Espanol es mujer que Alemán y Alemán es por NAZIS. jk:p

:eek:

Como te puedes decir esto!

Si Aleman es por Nazis...uh, Espanol es para las criadas y los trabajadores Mexicanos!:p

Mwahah, puedes cima esto, puta?


(De donde eres? Estas Americano, o no?)

Mean bastard. Rudeness will get you nowhere with me!


It's clearly possible. I mean, I'm living proof.

Ce n'est vraiment pas difficile à apprendre. Et en plus, c'est une langue tellement plus poétique et plus belle que l'anglais.

Haha, I'm not mean...I'm just not nice. :p

Its impossible to learn for ME...any language is easy to learn if your born into it.

(unless you werent born into it, in which case I'm going to feel retarded)

Like most people here, my first is English. I know a little bit of Japanese and Spanish though, if a bit more Spanish than Japanese. Although you really don't have an excuse not to know some Spanish if you grow up less than 45 minutes away from the Mexican border.

Like most people here, my first is English. I know a little bit of Japanese and Spanish though, if a bit more Spanish than Japanese. Although you really don't have an excuse not to know some Spanish if you grow up less than 45 minutes away from the Mexican border.
....Or the ocean (aka the Cuban border).

Haha, I'm not mean...I'm just not nice. :p

Its impossible to learn for ME...any language is easy to learn if your born into it.

(unless you werent born into it, in which case I'm going to feel retarded)
I was born into it. That was easy.

I also managed to learn both English and Spanish, despite the fact I wasn't born into either. Easily enough. I can now boast my english is pretty much on par with most for whom it's the main language, even if my spanish has gotten pretty shabby from lack of use.

Heck, my written english is better than some of the dorks' writing on this board.

:eek:

Como te puedes decir esto!
porque yo puedo:D


Si Aleman es por Nazis...uh, Espanol es para las criadas y los trabajadores Mexicanos!:p
claro que si:p
Mwahah, puedes cima esto, puta?
no, ganas

(De donde eres? Estas Americano, o no?)
Inglaterra, pero Viví en Espana y vivo en los Estados Unidos

Like most people here, my first is English. I know a little bit of Japanese and Spanish though, if a bit more Spanish than Japanese. Although you really don't have an excuse not to know some Spanish if you grow up less than 45 minutes away from the Mexican border.
San Diego?

Brazilian portuguese.

I was born into German and Spanish. I learned American when I moved there, and then Brazilian Portuguese when I moved there. I can't speak English.

I am just curoius what is everybodies first language. Mine is Japanese.Pity the poll isn't multiple choice...
German and English.

why the hell is there a poll?? there are over 200 lanuages in the world:far too many for having a poll.

why the hell is there a poll?? there are over 200 lanuages in the world:far too many for having a poll.


Thats why I put an other option.

Mine is English...but how i wish it was french...

Also, shouldn't there be a distinguish between American-english and the proper one?!

Thats why I put an other option.
a poll with an "other" option is suitable when there is slightly more choices than 10. if its around 200 then theres no reason for a poll. besides, polls are gay.

a poll with an "other" option is suitable when there is slightly more choices than 10. if its around 200 then theres no reason for a poll. besides, polls are gay.
Well, only about 10% of people are picking other, so I think it remains valid in this situation.

Swedish and English. I learned both simultaneously growing up so neither is really "first".

My mother tongue is Swedish.

I learnt English at school but also we're exposed to it here almost daily on television (we don't dub tv-programmes, just subtitles) and of course a lot of music is sung in English. And of course, these days there is the internet as well...

Australian English.

I have learnt French as a second language.

Argentinian :cool:

English.

I can't believe that Dutch/Flemish isn't up there, when they've got their own topic, just for Nederlanders *sighs*

English. The proper one! :D

Me too!!! :D

I am just curoius what is everybodies first language. Mine is Japanese.

Do you think in Japanese? I often wonder about what language people who speak multiple languages think in..........but then I'm some kind of crazy :D

You now what I think we should all learn russian it's kinda hot. But I speak french to and it's all romantic and fun until you start to learn it its even okay until you get to yr 2 when it's dun dun dun the year of the irregular verb. And it gets worse when you find out there are 50 bajillion tenses this yr i learned the past particple and more of the present and some stupid tense called imperfect or whatever and so I've been told by the end of the upcoming yr were are learning 10 more out of like literaly 50. And they all sound the same if you don't stop to really pay attention of curse it doesn't help if you don't get enough sleep. but i suppose once you think and listen they don't like like with imperfait they all get that ait sound kinda and with pp they all get a verb before them avoir or etre wtfe. So once you start learning it it sounds romantic no longer oh well ther is always spanish and italian.

English. Used to be able to get by in French as well, and have rather basic conversations in German, but I've not studied them in years so I'm rather crap now.

English, but I can also speak conversational French and Japanese. I used to be able to understand and read German, but it was when I was a little girl and heard family speak. I've kinda grown out of it :/.

Spanish here, Argentinian accent. :)

I often wonder about what language people who speak multiple languages think in.
While the question was not addressed to me, I'd say that the language in which one thinks should correspond to the language with which one is dealing at the moment. Say, when I'm reading a book in German, I'm thinking (or trying to think, considering my weak command of the language) in German. When I'm typing this message, I'm thinking in English. By the way, I've noticed that when one is communicating in (and, therefore, thinking in) a language in which one is not exactly fluent, it often severely limits one's mental capacity.

When not forced to use any foreign language, I'm pretty sure that most people think in their first one. However, if the conditions prevent a person from using their first language on a regular basis, and then they suddenly have to use it once again, their speech is often crammed with foreign words, idioms, structures, etc., even if there are perfect synonyms for these in their first language. Besides, certain people are even proud of such admixtures, often pronouncing foreign words with a distinct accent, as if underlining them, so that the listeners have to ask what do they mean. The speaker then explains the meaning (with fake suprise, and using intentionally broken constructions), full of arrogance with his esoteric knowledge. I personally find such behavior extremely annoying.

P.S. Russian here. Thank you, Amazonian women.

mine's english.

my dad's was Welsh, and my mum's was German (of which i speak a little)
Of which you speak little, or which you speak little of?

My first was swedish (though I guess it sounded like danish when I started). Then english, then I started with dutch (that kinda died though), then german, and I'm taking latin next year...

I can't believe that Dutch/Flemish isn't up there, when they've got their own topic, just for Nederlanders *sighs*
Isn't this the fifth one?

Uh-oh... of the six other people who said German I only know two. :eek:
The rest are lurkers... I can see you! <.< >.>

Does that mean I have to be more discreet with German white text in the future? Does it? *pokes lurkers*

Uh-oh... of the six other people who said German I only know two. :eek:
The rest are lurkers... I can see you! <.< >.>

Does that mean I have to be more discreet with German white text in the future? Does it? *pokes lurkers*
You know the internet has translating sites on it that we can-...wait...


...n.No...No you don't have to be more discreet with what you say in German white texts. Describe evernything...use details....

You know the internet has translating sites on it that we can-...wait...


...n.No...No you don't have to be more discreet with what you say in German white texts. Describe evernything...use details.... Oh, good then! *is relieved* Dann kann ich dir ja jetzt ganz genau und haarklein alles über den Waschbären erzählen und wie das war als der Kleine damals ganz heimlich nachts auf die Terrasse geklettert kam und nur ganz still und zärtlich ein bisschen an deinem Bein schubbern wollte. Nicht weil er deinen Spinatdip wollte, sondern einfach nur weil auch Waschbären ein bisschen Liebe und Zuneigung und, ja, auch Sex, brauchen. So wohlig und kuschelig und intim. Ach, wär es doch nur immer so. *seufz*

Oh, good then! *is relieved* Dann kann ich dir ja jetzt ganz genau und haarklein alles über den Waschbären erzählen und wie das war als der Kleine damals ganz heimlich nachts auf die Terrasse geklettert kam und nur ganz still und zärtlich ein bisschen an deinem Bein schubbern wollte. Nicht weil er deinen Spinatdip wollte, sondern einfach nur weil auch Waschbären ein bisschen Liebe und Zuneigung und, ja, auch Sex, brauchen. So wohlig und kuschelig und intim. Ach, wär es doch nur immer so. *seufz*
Totally should be.
Das sollte auf einen Totalquatsch stoßen, wenn von der anderen Übersetzung geglaubt werden soll. Ich werde diese Waschbär-Liebe geben. Zähe Liebe. Fluch, der lahm war. Ich sollte schlafen gehen. Jetzt führt meine dumme riesige Katze das Suchen nach Liebe herauf. Er kommt nur zu mir, weil keiner anderer zuhause ist. Er ist im Scheiße-Haus, weil er den 5 Schlüssel von meinem Computer riss. Und er stieg wenn Waschbären wo darüber aus.

Totally should be.
Das sollte auf einen Totalquatsch stoßen, wenn von der anderen Übersetzung geglaubt werden soll. Ich werde diese Waschbär-Liebe geben. Zähe Liebe. Fluch, der lahm war. Ich sollte schlafen gehen. Jetzt führt meine dumme riesige Katze das Suchen nach Liebe herauf. Er kommt nur zu mir, weil keiner anderer zuhause ist. Er ist im Scheiße-Haus, weil er den 5 Schlüssel von meinem Computer riss. Und er stieg wenn Waschbären wo darüber aus.
:D I'm so impressed that you actually found a translation engine that'd come up with the word "Totalquatsch", which doesn't exist but which perfectly describes the outcome of running anything through a translation engine. That's some truly impressive self-awareness for a computer program right there.
Oh, and please tell me what the lame pun was, because that one didn't translate (or maybe I just didn't get it).

:D I'm so impressed that you actually found a translation engine that'd come up with the word "Totalquatsch", which doesn't exist but which perfectly describes the outcome of running anything through a translation engine. That's some truly impressive self-awareness for a computer program right there.
Oh, and please tell me what the lame pun was, because that one didn't translate (or maybe I just didn't get it).
You're better for not knowing.

EDIT: The word by itself breaks the machine, so I don't know what it was.

You're better for not knowing.*pouts*
EDIT: The word by itself breaks the machine, so I don't know what it was. Well, it'd literally be like "totalcrap". :p

English, duh.

*pouts*
You've been down this road before-I say something you don't get, you ask, I tell you it's not worth it and you don't want to know, you pout, I tell you, and then you're like "That was lame" and I'm left going, "Yeah, well it's not like I didn't warn you."
Well, it'd literally be like "totalcrap". :p
I think that's actually what I wrote.

You've been down this road before-I say something you don't get, you ask, I tell you it's not worth it and you don't want to know, you pout, I tell you, and then you're like "That was lame" and I'm left going, "Yeah, well it's not like I didn't warn you."
*bashful look*
That's true, and I know it. Nevermind me then... :p
I think that's actually what I wrote. Yeah, but did you write it in one word?

*bashful look*
That's true, and I know it. Nevermind me then... :p
Yeah, but did you write it in one word?
Hell, could be. I still haven't gone to bed (9:40 in the AM). I'm not completely sure this isn't a dream. If you start complaining about the lighting then I know I nodded off in front of the computer...

Hell, could be. I still haven't gone to bed (9:40 in the AM). I'm not completely sure this isn't a dream. If you start complaining about the lighting then I know I nodded off in front of the computer... Well, I didn't want to bring it up, but now that you mention it...

Nah, go to bed already. *kicks your butt*

Well, I didn't want to bring it up, but now that you mention it...

Nah, go to bed already. *kicks your butt*
Ah, I got till the 14th to straighten out my sleep schedule...

Ah, I got till the 14th to straighten out my sleep schedule...
It's like I'm talking to myself, just with more typing. :rolleyes:

Straight up New Zealandish.


It's english for the retarded.

English, but I'm in the process of learning Spanish and Chinese

English, Partly queen's english with a slight Geordie twang (though some up here claim that i'm not a true geordie as i fail to do proper accent).

I also speak pretty good French and a little Spanish as well as a few basic words of KiSwahili.

Well, it'd literally be like "totalcrap". :p

I love German. They say, "Hmm, we have two words here. That's not very efficient. We'll make it one word!"

I love German. They say, "Hmm, we have two words here. That's not very efficient. We'll make it one word!"
Hee. :cool: But just to make sure: that one really isn't a word. Could be, though. :p

Hee. :cool: But just to make sure: that one really isn't a word. Could be, though. :p

I've always been under the impression that German and English share that interesting ability to create new words. However, German takes it even further by combining pre-existing words into more new words.

I right now am in french 3 tis coming august, And like previously stated am learning british don't ask or do I don't care but I'm thinking of learning arabic and If i get into some of the colleges I want I am going to take either international relations I don't know with what lanquages but most likely either french cause i'm in it already , or in chinease cause thats where the ppl are, or my fav russian just because I like the politics don't yell at me I have a theory about vlad and his ppl. Involving russian democracy and why it has to be diffrent from anybody else's.

I love German. They say, "Hmm, we have two words here. That's not very efficient. We'll make it one word!"

Internetforendiskussionsteilnehmerintelligenzbeweis.

Internetforendiskussionsteilnehmerintelligenzbeweis.
Yeah, well, that's debatable. :p

Alberta? I assume you are from Canada. Do you call yourself an american?

No. That would be stupid.

english, dammit :mad:

french and not voting

English with a California accent, or as we call it, a lack of accent.:)

Same here.

Yeah, well, that's debatable. :p

Internetforendiskussionsteilnehmerintelligenzbeweiskettensaege.

Deutsch rocks.

Internetforendiskussionsteilnehmerintelligenzbeweiskettensaege.

Deutsch rocks.
Aw, man, did you really have to go and screw it up with the "nsaege"? It actually would have made sense without it! Seriously, tsk, tsk.

Aw, man, did you really have to go and screw it up with the "nsaege"? It actually would have made sense without it! Seriously, tsk, tsk.

Analysis:

a) The Beweis-Ketten-Saege part is where it becomes rhetoric artwork: zeugma.

b) The "saege" ending negates the whole thing...after the chain of words reaching its climax, it crashes abruptly, turning into the opposite. That's quality. Pure poetry in both meanings. Comparable only to Heine's notorious line: "Ich wollt, er schoesse mich tot."

I shall close this with another gem:

I'm not conceited, I'm plain GRAND.

why the hell is there a poll?? there are over 200 lanuages in the world:far too many for having a poll.

Over 850 languages are indigenous to Papua New Guinea alone.

I guess it would technically be American. "English" is outlawed in my state. A cookie to whoever can tell me where I live.

Spanish!

that puts spanish in second place, with 9, after English, with 144

quite the gap to close

I guess it would technically be American. "English" is outlawed in my state. A cookie to whoever can tell me where I live.
The United States of America?

Spanish!

that puts spanish in second place, with 9, after English, with 144

quite the gap to close
Eh, it's an english forum whatcha gonna do?

Eh, it's an english forum whatcha gonna do?
There a Netherlandish topic, so it's not limited to English.
I should start a topic in Swahili, see who can translate it! :D

There a Netherlandish topic, so it's not limited to English.
I should start a topic in Swahili, see who can translate it! :D
That'd be cool.

I know it isn't "limited" to English, but most of the people on here do post in English.

Eh, it's an english forum whatcha gonna do?
of course

it was merely an observation

also not that many people have voted (when compared to things like the pageants) so theres prbly even more english speakers, if the ratios stay the same

That'd be cool.

I know it isn't "limited" to English, but most of the people on here do post in English.
I'll work on it right now because I'm kind of bored with the other threads.

Anadilim Turkce'dir!

My first language is Turkish which hasn't been put in any language family yet. Discussions are going on. The most popular thesis is about the Altaic family which includes Turkish dialects spoken by Azeriis, Uzbeks, Kazhaks, Turkmens, Turkomans and aaaa... Turks (Turkey) of course and some other languages such as Mongolian and Manchurian. It's a large family indeed. One border is China and the other is Greece...

Anadilim Turkce'dir!

My first language is Turkish which hasn't been put in any language family yet. Discussions are going on. The most popular thesis is about the Altaic family which includes Turkish dialects spoken by Azeriis, Uzbeks, Kazhaks, Turkmens, Turkomans and aaaa... Turks (Turkey) of course and some other languages such as Mongolian and Manchurian. It's a large family indeed. One border is China and the other is Greece...
Very interesting...maybe I should learn Turkish! ;)

Dutch! XD It might be a weird, un-understandable language, but it's best for reading children's books and stuff =P (sorry, was doing that earlier ^^; )

Though for some strange reaosn, most of my friends and me, including most Dutch ones, speak English together... dun ask ^^;

Gibberish.


Some argue I have not learned another yet.


thats ok gibberish is just fine

mine is english

I'm Portuguese but I'm fluent in English and a medium level on French and Spanish.

Very interesting...maybe I should learn Turkish! ;)

it would be really an interesting experiment. altough it is so systematic syntax, pronounciation, phonetic and the logic of Turkish language are totally different from Indo-European languages. if you start by going over the grammatical rules it would take years and years. but if you have an opportunity to live in Istanbul for a few months while it may be much easier.
i wish you good luck if you have a chance to try!

it would be really an interesting experiment. altough it is so systematic syntax, pronounciation, phonetic and the logic of Turkish language are totally different from Indo-European languages. if you start by going over the grammatical rules it would take years and years. but if you have an opportunity to live in Istanbul for a few months while it may be much easier.
i wish you good luck if you have a chance to try!
I love interesting languages...and there are many sights in Istanbul to see! It would be quite a cultural experience.