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And that sounds like the Divynils! (sp)

And that sounds like the Divynils! (sp)

i have no idea what you're on about

but :fluffle:

i have no idea what you're on about

but :fluffle:



*will google later*

that was oh so long ago... that song.

:fluffle:

So let me get this straight: I don't have many sexual partners, but when I do have one, we have a lot of sex. I've been contemplating getting a tattoo of the constellation scorpius on my lower back (partly because it would be easy to hide there, partly because when I have kids that area is unlikely to stretch out and partly because scorpius is low on the horizon in the sky, so putting it low on my back would be appropriate) and if I go through with that, it makes me a slut?

It doesn't make you a slut. It makes people think that you're a slut. And, as much as people like to pretend they don't care what others think, everyone does care what others think in specific situations.

To me, it doesn't say "slut." It says TACKY TACKY TACKY. I didn't even know so many people associated it with sluttiness until I read this thread. I thought everyone with good taste knew how tacky it was, though. Do yourself a favor and don't get a tramp stamp.

ahem - 'scuse me, some of us are of the same opinion of you...the OP is the one who be retarded - although entitled to his opinion
I should have clarified that to be you people (who think this way) are retarded.

It doesn't make you a slut. It makes people think that you're a slut. And, as much as people like to pretend they don't care what others think, everyone does care what others think in specific situations.
Well, if someone would quickly leap to that conclusion then I don't think I want to associate with them anyways.

To me, it doesn't say "slut." It says TACKY TACKY TACKY. I didn't even know so many people associated it with sluttiness until I read this thread. I thought everyone with good taste knew how tacky it was, though. Do yourself a favor and don't get a tramp stamp.
I probably won't get it until I'm old anyways.

*helpfully laughs at you on Bottle's behalf, since you eminently deserve it* :p


I knew that brown stuff on your nose wasn't a tatoo.

Gosh, I've sure been served. I think I'm going to go cry about it...

Don't cry.

I would say most people who get tatoos are more comfortable with there bodies and would thus give it up easier.



The fact that there are non-rubes in the deep South only makes the rubes look more pathetic. Adult Swim proves that rube-ness is a chosen condition rather than an unchosen affliction, which means that rubes are rubes because they are consciously choosing to be rubes.

I don't know about all that.

Many rubes have what can only be explained as common genetic traits, i.e. redneck or crooked teeth.

How do you explain that?

So let me get this straight: I don't have many sexual partners, but when I do have one, we have a lot of sex. I've been contemplating getting a tattoo of the constellation scorpius on my lower back (partly because it would be easy to hide there, partly because when I have kids that area is unlikely to stretch out and partly because scorpius is low on the horizon in the sky, so putting it low on my back would be appropriate) and if I go through with that, it makes me a slut?

Dakini, you seem to be laboring under the misconception that your ACTUAL sex life has anything to do with whether or not you are a slut.

See, you are female. As a female, you should be aware that your body is public property. If you dress a certain way, you are a slut, regardless of how much sex (if any) you are having. If you decorate your body with particular markings or ornaments, you are also a slut. If you are out-spoken or assertive, you are also a slut (see Cindy Sheehan for more on this).

If you refuse to have sex with a particular man, then he gets to call you a slut. If you dress in a way that displeases a man, you are a slut. If you put your own personal comfort or personal aesthetic ahead of what the public has decreed for you, then you are a slut.

You can be the sluttiest of sluts without ever having sex. That's the bonus of living in a society where your body is public property.

Dakini, you seem to be laboring under the misconception that your ACTUAL sex life has anything to do with whether or not you are a slut.

See, you are female. As a female, you should be aware that your body is public property. If you dress a certain way, you are a slut, regardless of how much sex (if any) you are having. If you decorate your body with particular markings or ornaments, you are also a slut. If you are out-spoken or assertive, you are also a slut (see Cindy Sheehan for more on this).

If you refuse to have sex with a particular man, then he gets to call you a slut. If you dress in a way that displeases a man, you are a slut. If you put your own personal comfort or personal aesthetic ahead of what the public has decreed for you, then you are a slut.

You can be the sluttiest of sluts without ever having sex. That's the bonus of living in a society where your body is public property.
Pff. A slut would say that...

please don't kill me

tramp stamp <shrug> my girlfriend has one. I'm also the only guy she has ever slept with so I'm pretty sure she's not a slut :)

Then again, I have seen literaly hundreds of girls with tramp stamps who are indeed on the easy side. Seems like every other girl who comes to one of the parties my friends and I throw is wearing heels, a mini skirt and some sort of shirt that covers the nipple down to the mid-stomach area. typically they go home with a different guy every time as well too. <shrug> college I suppose.

so my thoughts on the tramp stamp is this: Its as fine a place as any other to get a tattoo but you have to understand getting there does carry ceartin connotations. I don't think my g/f thought of that when she got it, but most probably do. All I ask is that if you get a tattoo, don't do something stupid like a unicorn or a butterfly. Unles you happen to have some sort of connection to either other than "gosh a unicorn/butterfly is SO cute/I'm just like a unicorn/butterfly" etc etc

by the way, I don't know if anybody else mentioned this but we vary 50-50 between calling them a tramp stamp or just a target :D

Dakini, you seem to be laboring under the misconception that your ACTUAL sex life has anything to do with whether or not you are a slut.

See, you are female. As a female, you should be aware that your body is public property. If you dress a certain way, you are a slut, regardless of how much sex (if any) you are having. If you decorate your body with particular markings or ornaments, you are also a slut. If you are out-spoken or assertive, you are also a slut (see Cindy Sheehan for more on this).

If you refuse to have sex with a particular man, then he gets to call you a slut. If you dress in a way that displeases a man, you are a slut. If you put your own personal comfort or personal aesthetic ahead of what the public has decreed for you, then you are a slut.

You can be the sluttiest of sluts without ever having sex. That's the bonus of living in a society where your body is public property.
Oh, well thanks for clearing that up for me.

:headbang:

:headbang:

*pets your forehead*

If you refuse to have sex with a particular man, then he gets to call you a slut. If you dress in a way that displeases a man, you are a slut.


I must add...If you prove to be smarter than a particular self-confident man, or get a better job when applying against several men, you also get to be called a slut. Even more if you have tattoos.

Oh, well thanks for clearing that up for me.
Any time! Personally, I find this double standard very convenient, since it allows me to be a total ho without actually having to go to all the trouble of sleeping around. For godless harlot types such as myself, this can be a real time-saver.

Pff. A slut would say that...

please don't kill me
Very good! You recognized the clear sign of sluttery in that post of mine: it was uppity and did not bow down before the obvious supremacy of heterosexual male dictates! You are correct, that post of mine was an excellent example of sluttery.

For our next lesson, let's examine the following sentences, and identify what makes them clearly the work of a slut:

"I don't see why exposing my breast in public is indecent, when men expose their chests all the time."

"Just because I'm wearing a skirt doesn't mean every guy has the right to shove his hand up it."

"Yes, I have a lower back tattoo. So?"

If you refuse to have sex with a particular man, then he gets to call you a slut. If you dress in a way that displeases a man, you are a slut.


I must add...If you prove to be smarter than a particular self-confident man, or get a better job when applying against several men, you also get to be called a slut. Even more if you have tattoos.

I must add...If you prove to be smarter than a particular self-confident man, or get a better job when applying against several men, you also get to be called a slut. Even more if you have tattoos.

To be called a thing and to be a thing are not the same things.

*pets your forehead*

Er, thanks... i'm not purring though

General note, if men are calling you a slut, then maybe you're hanging out with wrong kind of men??

To be called a thing and to be a thing are not the same things.

My point exactly?

Er, thanks... i'm not purring though

General note, if men are calling you a slut, then maybe you're hanging out with wrong kind of men??


The men who you hang out with, may not be the ones who call you anything.

I mean, how many men who call Brittney a slut have actually been within a mile of 'em?

hmm.. I always thought 'slut' was a fictional type of creature from the 'gossip' genre of stories..

As far as tattoos are concerned, I'm not really for any body artificial adornment more permanent than what you get with a permanent marker :p
But to each there own. I'm not forced to look at it or get one.

The men who you hang out with, may not be the ones who call you anything.

I mean, how many men who call Brittney a slut have actually been within a mile of 'em?

This is true

General note, if men are calling you a slut, then maybe you're hanging out with wrong kind of men??

agreed

there's been so much man bashing in the last few pages its making my head spin. we're not all assholes you know. .

My point exactly?

Er, okay.

Meanwhile, in order to be accepted by the social norm usually involves outperforming the social norm by a factor of 2.
Fortunately, that is not that hard.

General note, if men are calling you a slut, then maybe you're hanging out with wrong kind of men??

My chosen friends do not call me a slut. However, we adults that work out of the street sometimes have to deal with men not exactly of our own choosing.

My "hang out" partners are a different matter, that's all. You just sometimes have to deal with the wrong kind of men, even if you do not want to

My chosen friends do not call me a slut. However, we adults that work out of the street sometimes have to deal with men not exactly of our own choosing.

My "hang out" partners are a different matter, that's all. You just sometimes have to deal with the wrong kind of men, even if you do not want to

True enough, but if a man called me a slut for no good reason he'd be getting one of the following:
- a few choice words

- backhand across the face

- a knee cap in the groin

:D

True enough, but if a man called me a slut for no good reason he'd be getting one of the following:
- a few choice words

- backhand across the face

- a knee cap in the groin

:D


*grin* I should not expose you to any form of interaction with, say, arabs or french.
*thinks hard* or maybe I should!

*grin* I should not expose you to any form of interaction with, say, arabs or french.
*thinks hard* or maybe I should!

lol

I've had interaction with arabs. I lived in the middle east for a year

What can I say, I'm a little fiesty

True enough, but if a man called me a slut for no good reason he'd be getting one of the following:
- a few choice words

- backhand across the face

- a knee cap in the groin

:D

Sometimes you are able to do that, I once cracked one guy's nose open with a pool stick for sliding his hand up my skirt, and I am known for my four across the face. I am also currently surrounded by guys both far capable and willing to crush someone if I am provoked.

Yet sometimes it is not that open. You know that someone calls you a slu all thetime, yet he never do it in your face. Also, if he happens to be important, you also do not have that right. A minister of my country once waited until we turned off our mics to call me a slut openly. Slapping him, or nuking his nuts with my knee, when surrounded by bodyguards, didn't seem to be an option.

lol

I've had interaction with arabs. I lived in the middle east for a year

What can I say, I'm a little fiesty


How much does it take for one of 'em to use the word 'sharmutta', habibti?

Being a "real woman" is overrated. You have to dislike sex and like being in monogamous relationships with boys who refuse to consider your orgasm or pick up after themselves.

That sure sounds like a job description for a "mother". Your sons sure as hell don't want to know about your orgasms and when do teenage boys ever pick up after themselves without being shouted at first? (tries hard to take tongue out of cheek but fails dismally) ;)

Well, some people have commented on the fact that tattoo's are very hard to get rid o, reminds me of a wedding I went to at the New Year.

Both had decided to get a tattoo ring instead of a "real" ring. The designs were quite cool, they were just intermingled lines that represented togetherness and the like.

Well, some people have commented on the fact that tattoo's are very hard to get rid o, reminds me of a wedding I went to at the New Year.

Both had decided to get a tattoo ring instead of a "real" ring. The designs were quite cool, they were just intermingled lines that represented togetherness and the like.

Intersting point.. does that make them sluts then? Because apparently everyone with a tat is a tramp / slut / hoochie mamma etc etc

Intersting point.. does that make them sluts then? Because apparently everyone with a tat is a tramp / slut / hoochie mamma etc etc

Well, the groom was actually pretty damn religious.

True enough, but if a man called me a slut for no good reason he'd be getting one of the following:
- a few choice words

- backhand across the face

- a knee cap in the groin

:D

Ms- you would be better punching down into the groin if you really wanted to hurt him. The Pubic mound is designed to be able to move upwards so when you knee him the effect is reduced however if you punch downwards into the groin all the force is turned into pain. Learning how to punch also helps ;).

Fargozia']Ms- you would be better punching down into the groin if you really wanted to hurt him. The Pubic mound is designed to be able to move upwards so when you knee him the effect is reduced however if you punch downwards into the groin all the force is turned into pain. Learning how to punch also helps ;).

Noted :)

Intersting point.. does that make them sluts then? Because apparently everyone with a tat is a tramp / slut / hoochie mamma etc etc
*thinks hard*

Maybe with enough bare skin for it to show?

*thinks hard*

Maybe with enough bare skin for it to show?

Maybe

I'd still get a tattoo if I found the right one

Maybe

I'd still get a tattoo if I found the right one


Define the right one... :p

Define the right one... :p

*sigh*.. here we go

One i've designed myself - not you typical dime a dozen type tatts

*sigh*.. here we go

One i've designed myself - not you typical dime a dozen type tatts


Oh, okay. I still think the sleeziness of the dime a dozen type warrants a LOT of negative comments.

I should add here that the first time I noticed the tattoo-phenomenon it was most definetely a Trailer Trash thingie.

Tribals are pretty cool, though.

Oh, okay. I still think the sleeziness of the dime a dozen type warrants a LOT of negative comments.

I should add here that the first time I noticed the tattoo-phenomenon it was most definetely a Trailer Trash thingie.

Tribals are pretty cool, though.

Tribals are quite cool

I dont see the point in them if they're just random for the hell of it tatt's - if it's symbolic in some way, cool, whatever. But I also dont think you should be labelled a tramp just for having one

Tribals are quite cool

I dont see the point in them if they're just random for the hell of it tatt's - if it's symbolic in some way, cool, whatever. But I also dont think you should be labelled a tramp just for having one

Well, now that I am on it - the Trailer Trash connection might warrant some negative comments.

Well, now that I am on it - the Trailer Trash connection might warrant some negative comments.

Why? Tatt's or not Tatt's they'd behave the same way

Why? Tatt's or not Tatt's they'd behave the same way


If a custom is connected to social abseilers, one must expect to be branded as a social abseiler if you do the custom. :cool:

If a custom is connected to social abseilers, one must expect to be branded as a social abseiler if you do the custom. :cool:

I guess, to an extent.

I guess, to an extent.

Which leads me to an off-topic anecdote.


There was this woman who complained to the police that her neighbours had called her a pant-wetting shit-smelling whore. ( and several other comments, and I am not making this up ).

I suppose it would have been factual if they just added ex- to the final word.

( some people don't understand body-hygiene.. *holds nose*)

Which leads me to an off-topic anecdote.


There was this woman who complained to the police that her neighbours had called her a pant-wetting shit-smelling whore. ( and several other comments, and I am not making this up ).

I suppose it would have been factual if they just added ex- to the final word.

( some people don't understand body-hygiene.. *holds nose*)

Thanks for sharing :P

Thanks for sharing :P


I'm thinking the Curren Case in London ( some 90 years ago ).

The presiding Judge ruled that inaccurate negative comments are allowed if the person who uttered them was acting on a subjective but sincere faith.

I'm thinking the Curren Case in London ( some 90 years ago ).

The presiding Judge ruled that inaccurate negative comments are allowed if the person who uttered them was acting on a subjective but sincere faith.

hmmmm

Punching...well. One leg will always have more force than a hand, mostly if you are a woman, because you don't usually have developed your arms and shoulders to the extent of having the power to deliver enough force with a punch, no matter the target zone. As long as you do not have uncomfortable heels, go for a kick, it will have the strenght of a man's punch.

High or otherwise uncomfortable heels will give you trouble to maintain balance and deliver the right kick, but they can also add sharp, pointy or otherwise heavy assets to damage. Everything depends. A touch to the throat before landing the kick is also advised, for distraction.

Most men actually expect the groin kick from a woman as a first contact, so the hit to the throat with your hand will distract him from the obvious target at first, just remember that...If he has friends, be aware that perhaps, if you are alone, starting a fight is not the best course of action, as you won't be able to take on several stronger, more capable men. If he's alone, remember that he will be incapacitated by the groin hit for several seconds, but he will be able to stand again. Once you start, do not stop, carry on hitting him in delicate spots, (kicks in the face or head while he's down work perfectly fine) until you are pretty sure he won't stand again in a near future. Stopping after just kicking his nuts will just leave you dealing with a truly angry man after 30 seconds, when he regain his feet.

If you are a fine, small lady, as I am, try to find a "damage amplifier", as you are not strong enough to cause a strong, determined man decisive damage. Chairs, sticks, or any cylindrical or otherwise bludgeoning object works fine as a damage amplifier.

Just a piece of advise, I have been there :D

True enough, but if a man called me a slut for no good reason he'd be getting one of the following:
- a few choice words

- backhand across the face

- a knee cap in the groin

:D
I just give them a sympathetic pat on the shoulder and say, "Oh, I understand. A lot of guys are really nervous before they come out, and they try to cover it up by being especially macho and rude so that nobody will guess how they really feel. But it's okay. I'm sure your dad will still love you after you tell him."

True enough, but if a man called me a slut for no good reason he'd be getting one of the following:
- a few choice words

- backhand across the face

- a knee cap in the groin

:D
Assault and battery.

I just give them a sympathetic pat on the shoulder and say, "Oh, I understand. A lot of guys are really nervous before they come out, and they try to cover it up by being especially macho and rude so that nobody will guess how they really feel. But it's okay. I'm sure your dad will still love you after you tell him."

bottle, those comments around here usually earn you a powerful slap, or even a right fist to your nose or your breasts, along with a comment like "The bitch had it coming"...Thats why you need to have prepared that kick to the nuts beforehand.

bottle, those comments around here usually earn you a powerful slap, or even a right fist to your nose or your breasts, along with a comment like "The bitch had it coming"...Thats why you need to have prepared that kick to the nuts beforehand.
Meh. If necessary I suppose I could jab him in the solar plexus, but aiming for the nuts seems pretty pointless when dealing with the sort of cretin who clearly doesn't have any. ;)

Assault and battery.

provoked!

Assault and battery.
Strictly speaking? You bet. Practically speaking? Never be charged, let alone convicted. If an officer shows up to a scene where a lady punched out a guy in a bar, the guy will probably get told to quit making an ass of himself and leave the ladies alone.

You lads can thank all the grunting assholes in pubs for that one. They built a double standard, whereby it is automatically assumed that a male who is punched by a female in a pub clearly deserved exactly what he got.

Tramp Stamps? Maybe if they were texts like 'Warning: May contain penis' or somesuch.
Seems to me that the term was thought up by a bunch of losers who don't get enough nookie.

Assault and battery.

Yeah right, like any 'real man' would ever admit to being hit by a girl, and then going to the cops over it. :rolleyes:

provoked!
I hate to tell you but name calling doesn't count as a motion defensible with physical violence.

Ask Zidane about that

Ask Zidane about that
Athletes v other athletes in international violent sports never count. Duh.

Athletes v other athletes in international violent sports never count. Duh.

Football/Soccer hardly qualifies as a "international violent sport"

What is it that will make an attractive woman advertise her easy virtue with a giant tattoo across her tailbone?
Ah, so tatooed women = sluts, and tatooed men = what?:rolleyes:

Ah, so tatooed women = sluts, and tatooed men = what?:rolleyes:

man who seek out slut? ... *shrug*

dunno... this thread tickles me.. it's so silly! :)

Ah, so tatooed women = sluts, and tatooed men = what?:rolleyes:

The Illustrated Man.

Ah, so tatooed women = sluts, and tatooed men = what?:rolleyes:
= Stupid?

Like I've said periodically in the pages of posts, I'm curious too. There seem to be a considerable number of people on the Gulf coast that hold this opinion. I can see where it might start, though. The tattoos that are displayed on someone's butt just look sleazy. So do a lot of the women that wear them, and they would look just as sleazy without the tattoo.

= Stupid?
It would depend on the tattoo. Some tattoos are stupid, others are not.

The tattoos that are displayed on someone's butt just look sleazy.
Not all of them do.

So do a lot of the women that wear them, and they would look just as sleazy without the tattoo.
So then it's not the tattoo, it's the person...

It seems quiet a painful place to have being theres not much skin

It seems quiet a painful place to have being theres not much skin
Are you sure you're thinking of the same spot? I have quite a bit of skin above the bone at the base of my spine.

Are you sure you're thinking of the same spot? I have quite a bit of skin above the bone at the base of my spine.

Dakini!, go and workout! :p

Ah, so tatooed women = sluts, and tatooed men = what?:rolleyes:
Badasses, duh. Aren't standards supposed to be differnet fo...





what?






No?


You sure?
...

Dakini!, go and workout! :p
Ouch. So now I'm fat? :(

Ouch. So now I'm fat? :(

Nah, just kidding. At least you don't look fat in my mental image. If you have lots of skin there, you need to go down and give yourself fifty flexes or so :p

= Stupid?

Like I've said periodically in the pages of posts, I'm curious too. There seem to be a considerable number of people on the Gulf coast that hold this opinion. I can see where it might start, though. The tattoos that are displayed on someone's butt just look sleazy. So do a lot of the women that wear them, and they would look just as sleazy without the tattoo.

Remind me to stay away from that silly prejudiced area, then :p

It seems quiet a painful place to have being theres not much skin
Actually, one of the reasons it's popular to get tats there is because it is relatively painless compared to other areas. It smarts when you're inking in the middle, over the spine, but the lower back is actually quite fleshy (on a woman of average proportions, at least). This makes it somewhat less painful than tattooing in the small of the back.

Personally, though, I'd go with upper back tattooing over lower back, simply because the skin is a bit less likely to stretch with weight gain. A lot of women put on weight around their hips first, which means that even relatively minor fluctuations in weight can stretch the tat out. Also, if a woman plans to become pregnant at some point in her life, it's probably wise to take that into consideration when getting inked.

Remind me to stay away from that silly prejudiced area, then :p
Hehe!

Remind me to stay away from that silly prejudiced area, then :p
Yup, you'd probably be happier at the California beaches. Or down in the Keys. They're more into the "looks matter" thing, too.

Yup, you'd probably be happier at the California beaches. Or down in the Keys. They're more into the "looks matter" thing, too.

You've never seen me, have you? :D :p

No, I think I'd rather stay where I am, thank you so much. Plenty of prejudice around, too, but at least none about tattoos ;)

I've seen a few of these on vacation. There aren't too many tattooed women in my little corner of Georgia, but as you get to P'cola(Pensacola), Florida and the rest of the Gulf coast, the practice seems to become more and more common. What is it that will make an attractive woman advertise her easy virtue with a giant tattoo across her tailbone? The little butterflies and such on the ankle are bad enough, but at least they are inconspicuous.

Here's an example of what I'm talking about.
http://boortz.com/images/back_tattoo1.jpg
That is darn right hideous.

Strictly speaking? You bet. Practically speaking? Never be charged, let alone convicted. If an officer shows up to a scene where a lady punched out a guy in a bar, the guy will probably get told to quit making an ass of himself and leave the ladies alone.

You lads can thank all the grunting assholes in pubs for that one. They built a double standard, whereby it is automatically assumed that a male who is punched by a female in a pub clearly deserved exactly what he got.


Which could explain why domestic violence reports tend to include fewer incidents of women attacking men even though the occurrance is similar.

http://www.dvmen.org/dv-34.htm#pgfId-1353321

I think the factor used is 7.5

Tramp Stamps? Maybe if they were texts like 'Warning: May contain penis' or somesuch.
Seems to me that the term was thought up by a bunch of losers who don't get enough nookie.


A tattoo does not communicate any more specifically about a person than wearing a letterman jacket, or a pocket-protector, or a suit and tie, or a confederate flag...

Meh... although I'd never have tattoos or piercings myself, it doesn't bother me in the slightest that other people would have em. It's just yet another case of "people being bothered by something that other people do that hurts nobody".

Yeah. If a girl starts a fight with a guy and pummels him, the guy is totally screwed for the most part.

Still, in many cases the whole bar thing IS accurate (i.e. annoying drunk guys harassing women)... it's just that the police seem to map this out into peoples' homes without actual investigation to find out if it's true or not.

tacky tacky tacky

You've never seen me, have you? :D :p

No, I think I'd rather stay where I am, thank you so much. Plenty of prejudice around, too, but at least none about tattoos ;)
Nah, of course not. I just recalled the thread you started about looks and thought I'd get a dig in. No offense intended, just an attempt at humor.