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Ok first let me say that yes i think the price for the PS3 isd outragous and i plan wait for a few months untill i buy it not only to let the price drop but also so they can work out the unavoidable glitches that the first one will have then i can laugh at all the fools who bought one on opening day and the systems pulled a 360.

anyway i am just wondering what the cost is for all the indivdual componets. because i think it works like this:

you take all the componets prices and add them together then add a few bucks and that is what th e price should be. but for some reason i think they are cutting the price down. could someone help me out

$500, bucks?
It could drop fifty percent and I wouldn't give a fuck, not while I have my wonderful pc.

500?

hell ill just stick to my xbox and snes thanks.

Meh, i am more than content with my PS2 i'll wait 2 or 3 years.:p

I'm planning on getting a Xbox 360 eventually instead.

Go with the 360.

There's only so far graphics can go. The Xbox has DELIVERED us there in a fairly cheap package that now has the glitches worked out.

Sony just lost their huge share of the market.

I'll stick with my PC.

Where are you guys getting $500 bucks from?

Viva Nintendo.

Viva Nintendo,


Nintendo is going down fast.

Nintendo is going down fast.

Nintendo was gone when it started investing in endless Mario games over any real games.

The PS3 is going to be the most expensive gaming console to date, yes.

But it's also going to be the cheapest Blu-Disc DVD player in the market when it comes out. Most BDDVD players without the awesome capability of playing games are averaging near $1000.00 on their own.

The Blu-Disc also allows for much more storage than even what the 360 uses, which means developers can make huge games without resorting to disc splitting like in the old days of the PS1.

Is somebody going to tell me where they got that 500 dollar price tag from?

Nintendo was gone when it started investing in endless Mario games over any real games.

Endless Mario games? Are we being serious here?

It takes at least a year until a price drop usually happens. And you're actually considered getting the poor people version?

Nintendo was gone when it started investing in endless Mario games over any real games.Yeah, like Metroid Prime, F-Zero GX, and Pikmin 2.

Endless Mario games? Are we being serious here?

It was a metaphor, actually.

But look at the Gamecube. AWESOME system: but what games are on it?

It's like a Mario/Donkey/Zelda soap opera.

Endless Mario games? Are we being serious here?

That's an exaggeration of Nintendo's historical habit towards publishing family-friendly software. However, with games like Resident Evil and the upcoming Red Steel, they're getting bolder.

That's an exaggeration of Nintendo's historical habit towards publishing family-friendly software. However, with games like Resident Evil and the upcoming Red Steel, they're getting bolder.

Yay! Someone else knew what I meant!

Yay! Someone else knew what I meant!
oooohhh...sarcasmmmm...

It was a metaphor, actually.

But look at the Gamecube. AWESOME system: but what games are on it?

It's like a Mario/Donkey/Zelda soap opera.

...And....where exactly do you get your information on the GCN library?

Moreover, what's wrong with "Mario/Donkey/Zelda"?

The PS3 is going to be the most expensive gaming console to date, yes.

But it's also going to be the cheapest Blu-Disc DVD player in the market when it comes out. Most BDDVD players without the awesome capability of playing games are averaging near $1000.00 on their own.

The Blu-Disc also allows for much more storage than even what the 360 uses, which means developers can make huge games without resorting to disc splitting like in the old days of the PS1.
But most people I know don't give a shit about Blu-ray. It's games that matter, not specs or Blu-ray.
While the Gamecube was highly disappointing, it looks like the Wii will be a lot better.

...And....where exactly do you get your information on the GCN library?

Moreover, what's wrong with "Mario/Donkey/Zelda"?

There's only so many times one can hop on a mushroom without becoming bored.

Nintendo is going down fast.
Going down? Now, when I strangle my sister with the controller cord, my on screen character is going to perform an action or two. How cool is that?

Going down? Now, when I strangle my sister with the controller cord, my on screen character is going to perform an action or two. How cool is that?

I'm sorry, there is no cord on the wii controller :(

Anyways, to clear up anybody's misconceptions...

Wii: Stated to be no more than $250

PS3: Two versions stated, a $500 dollar verson with a 20 gig hard drive and other reduced features from the $600 dollar version, which has in addition to more features, a 60 gig hard drive.

Xbox 360: A $300 dollar version with no hard drive, and a $400 dollar version with a 20 gig hard drive and a number of extra's.

There's only so many times one can hop on a mushroom without becoming bored.

...If there were actually any mushroom hopping upon...

So, you don't like repetitiveness? That goes far beyond Mario. Nor does it say much about Zelda.

Nintendo is going down fast.
Yeah. they hace less and less good third part games on their consoles and nitendo's games are getting worse and worse.

its way too much.

There's only so many times one can hop on a mushroom without becoming bored.

1) You mean Goombas?
2) There were no Goombas in Sunshine
3) There are only so many times you can steal a car without becoming bored

The Wii launch title list looks really good, It has Metroid Prime 3 - Corruption & maybe Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles - Crystal Bearers on it. Plus, I can download all the N64 games I never got around to playing.

It was a metaphor, actually.

But look at the Gamecube. AWESOME system: but what games are on it?

It's like a Mario/Donkey/Zelda soap opera.

Resident Evil 4, SSBM, Tales of symphonia, Animal crossing(love/hate, i suppose), Paper mario, Phantasy Star Online, Metroid prime(1 and 2), others...

[QUOTE=Chellis]I'm sorry, there is no cord on the wii controller :(

[QUOTE]

Peripherals *nodnod*

1) You mean Goombas?
2) There were no Goombas in Sunshine
3) There are only so many times you can steal a car without becoming bored

The Wii launch title list looks really good, It has Metroid Prime 3 - Corruption & maybe Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles - Crystal Bearers on it. Plus, I can download all the N64 games I never got around to playing.

MP, Super mario galaxy, wii sports which personally looks really cool, others...

I'm not sure which are launch and not, but I cant wait for resident evil 5, red steel, SSBB, and a bunch of others... the Wii is going to probably be a midnight buy for me...

I'm sorry, there is no cord on the wii controller :(

Anyways, to clear up anybody's misconceptions...

Wii: Stated to be no more than $250

PS3: Two versions stated, a $500 dollar verson with a 20 gig hard drive and other reduced features from the $600 dollar version, which has in addition to more features, a 60 gig hard drive.

Xbox 360: A $300 dollar version with no hard drive, and a $400 dollar version with a 20 gig hard drive and a number of extra's.
Really, I heard that it had two samll controllers connected by a short cord.

That's it. Now I am definatly not buying a Wii.

Also, the PS3 will have out of the box Linux support:eek:

[QUOTE=Chellis]I'm sorry, there is no cord on the wii controller :(

[QUOTE]

Peripherals *nodnod*

True. I would love to use the nunchuck to attack people irl :P

I'm sorry, there is no cord on the wii controller :(

Anyways, to clear up anybody's misconceptions...

Wii: Stated to be no more than $250

PS3: Two versions stated, a $500 dollar verson with a 20 gig hard drive and other reduced features from the $600 dollar version, which has in addition to more features, a 60 gig hard drive.

Xbox 360: A $300 dollar version with no hard drive, and a $400 dollar version with a 20 gig hard drive and a number of extra's.


Where are you getting these numbers? I'll scream!

Really, I heard that it had two samll controllers connected by a short cord.

That's it. Now I am definatly not buying a Wii.

Also, the PS3 will have out of the box Linux support:eek:

Well yes, the analog stick is on a seperate controller from the wii controller, and they are connected by a cord :P

Where are you getting these numbers? I'll scream!

They are all official company statements

PS3 price: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6149470.html

Wii price: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6151827.html

Xbox 360 price: go to the store :P

They are all official company statements

PS3 price: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6149470.html

Wii price: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6151827.html

Xbox 360 price: go to the store :P


Thank you. :D

Well yes, the analog stick is on a seperate controller from the wii controller, and they are connected by a cord :P
There ya go.i can strangle my sister with a wii (controller).

There ya go.i can strangle my sister with a wii (controller).

"I was so disappointed I strangled them both with their video game controllers." - Rico Muerte, Big Time Hustler

"I was so disappointed I strangled them both with their video game controllers." - Rico Muerte, Big Time Hustler
"That's the last time she'll ever tell me to stop playing with my Wii."-Posi, Casual Gamer

Well yes, the analog stick is on a seperate controller from the wii controller, and they are connected by a cord :PNot all games will use the nunchaku though.

Not all games will use the nunchaku though.

So far Red Steel is the showcase piece for this. Semi-realistic pistol aiming and motion-based sword combat.

Now if Lucasgames latches onto the Wii, there might be the most sensation lightsaber duel in gaming history to come. Does the Wii have vibration? If so that'll just add to the experience.

Is somebody going to tell me where they got that 500 dollar price tag from?

[poster who first mentioned it]'s ass

I was willing to buy the PS3 until they started talking about it being like a computer. I have a computer, I don't want another one. I WANT A DEDICATED GAMING MACHINE DAMMIT. I can't afford internet connections for it! I don't plan to use half the features on any of the systems! I want something that pours all it's power into GAMES. That's it. Is that so wrong?

[poster who first mentioned it]'s ass
I heard $599...

[poster who first mentioned it]'s ass

Err, no? There will be a 499USD version and a 599USD version of the PS3.

So far Red Steel is the showcase piece for this. Semi-realistic pistol aiming and motion-based sword combat.

Now if Lucasgames latches onto the Wii, there might be the most sensation lightsaber duel in gaming history to come. Does the Wii have vibration? If so that'll just add to the experience.

It indeed has vibration.

So far Red SteelDoes the Wii have vibration? If so that'll just add to the experience.
This was the "killer" feature for women too ugly to get any. that is too big of a market to pass up. The name Wii makes allot more sense now....

Apparently for Australia the Wii will be $400 to $500 dollars and the ps3 will $800 for one version and $900 for another

[QUOTE=Chellis]I'm sorry, there is no cord on the wii controller :(

[QUOTE]

Peripherals *nodnod*

There's a tiny bit if you plug the remote lookin' bit into the bit with the stick on!

WWIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!

The 3DO was that expensive when it came out way back when. But then, who remembers the 3DO...When I shell out my dough depends on how GT comes out. That's always been the 'killer ap' for me. Forza was almost enough for me to go for an X-Box but the rest of the games just didn't speak to me. Not really fond of Halo, so no reason to buy an X-Box...

It indeed has vibration.

And also a speaker and mic in the controller! Looks great. I've got a 360 which I love! I've seen ps3 graphics and they're no better than 360 and lots of pics look slightly worse. Blu-ray isn't being very well supported at mo'. Hd-dvd could be the way forward, best wait and see as it's gonna be betamax/vhs all over again. HD-dvd drive comes out on 360 at xmas.

Sony has always been about making money by selling shit stuff under a good label. And people will pay any price they command....muppets. Every thing I've ever had made by Sony hasn't lasted. Their TV's suck compared to other major competitors such as Panosonic/JVC and Pioneer. PS2 bites. PS3 annoys me 'cos they stole lots of 360 and Nintendo ideas instead of coming up with new ones.

The 3DO was that expensive when it came out way back when. But then, who remembers the 3DO...When I shell out my dough depends on how GT comes out. That's always been the 'killer ap' for me. Forza was almost enough for me to go for an X-Box but the rest of the games just didn't speak to me. Not really fond of Halo, so no reason to buy an X-Box...

Halo is great, not the only xbox game though. If you like racing then there's PGR3 and Moto GP

Halo is great, not the only xbox game though. If you like racing then there's PGR3 and Moto GP
I've got MotoGP for my PS2 and PGR3 is exactly not the kind of racing game I like. "Kudos" I don't like.

Halo bores me to no end. I can dig others like it, it's just really not my thing in the least.

Ok first let me say that yes i think the price for the PS3 isd outragous and i plan wait for a few months untill i buy it not only to let the price drop but also so they can work out the unavoidable glitches that the first one will have then i can laugh at all the fools who bought one on opening day and the systems pulled a 360.

anyway i am just wondering what the cost is for all the indivdual componets. because i think it works like this:

you take all the componets prices and add them together then add a few bucks and that is what th e price should be. but for some reason i think they are cutting the price down. could someone help me out

The government needs to step in and have Sony only charge a reasonable price. At this point of our technology, basic video games are a right, not a privelege. So it should not be available to only those that can afford it. The USA is the richest country in the world and yet everyone can't have a basic video game console?!?

You see, its because of this prohibitively high cost that I'm not getting a PS3. Along w/sticking to PC games I'll probaby buy a Wii, just out of budget constraints (but games like SSBB and Twilight Princess* would make it worth getitng the Wii)

*I'd just get it for my Cube, but sadly it no longer functions :(

I've got MotoGP for my PS2 and PGR3 is exactly not the kind of racing game I like. "Kudos" I don't like.

Halo bores me to no end. I can dig others like it, it's just really not my thing in the least.

PS2 version doesn't compare to 360. Others are coming soon, be patient.

The government needs to step in and have Sony only charge a reasonable price. At this point of our technology, basic video games are a right, not a privelege. So it should not be available to only those that can afford it. The USA is the richest country in the world and yet everyone can't have a basic video game console?!?


I read a quote from a director of Sony who said something like:

"yeah the PS3's gonna be expensive, but we can charge whatever we want and people will pay it".

SONY BITES

PS2 version doesn't compare to 360. Others are coming soon, be patient.
If I was that bent about a motorcycle game then I'd get TT, but I'm not. And I've heard all the wankery about "The X-Box version is better" and not yet have I played it and thought, "My god, I need to buy a whole new system just to play a slightly different version of a game I can already play on the system I have..." Sorry man, it's not like I've never been exposed to X-Boxes and 360s-no sale.

I read a quote from a director of Sony who said something like:
"yeah the PS3's gonna be expensive, but we can charge whatever we want and people will pay it".
The sad point is it's all true.
SONY BITES
"The Playstation 3 will retail for 599 US dollars!"
-Kaz Hirai

And on a related Kaz quote, "It's ridge racer! Riiiiidge Racerr!!" :D

I'm sorry, there is no cord on the wii controller :(

Anyways, to clear up anybody's misconceptions...

Wii: Stated to be no more than $250

My bet is two hundred flat. THat's what every single Nintendo system came out starting as (excluding hand-helds, I believe). Why break tradition?

If I was that bent about a motorcycle game then I'd get TT, but I'm not. And I've heard all the wankery about "The X-Box version is better" and not yet have I played it and thought, "My god, I need to buy a whole new system just to play a slightly different version of a game I can already play on the system I have..." Sorry man, it's not like I've never been exposed to X-Boxes and 360s-no sale.

Fair enough, but to fork out ridiculous amounts on a PS3 is money wasted. For gameplay it's all about Nintendo, as I say I love the 360. For the price of PS3 you can have 360 AND Wii (which are my plans).

Atari Test Drive Unlimited on 360? It's all about games that are not out yet at mo like Lost Planet and Too Human

PS3 is going to be a let-down no matter how you look at it. No one is really sure how well the Blu-ray technology really works, and if the PS3 is better than the 360, its only because the PS3 has had lots of time to be developed since the 360's release. Frankly, I'd stick with the technology that works. Take scram-jets for example. Sure, they're much faster than regular jet turbines, but you can't control them. So why go kill yourself with some technology that has yet to be further developed? I don't want to waste an exhorbitant amount of money on a system that is essentially a computer and also sucks ass. The 360 has plenty of great titles, and Halo 3 is going to top the charts. PS3 won't be seeing daylight for a while after Bungie has a go at the market.

My bet is two hundred flat. THat's what every single Nintendo system came out starting as (excluding hand-helds, I believe). Why break tradition?

N64 come out at £250 in UK ( no idea on $ approx 400 I guess), after 1 month the price dropped to £150.... I was gutted!

PS3 is going to be a let-down no matter how you look at it. No one is really sure how well the Blu-ray technology really works, and if the PS3 is better than the 360, its only because the PS3 has had lots of time to be developed since the 360's release. Frankly, I'd stick with the technology that works. Take scram-jets for example. Sure, they're much faster than regular jet turbines, but you can't control them. So why go kill yourself with some technology that has yet to be further developed? I don't want to waste an exhorbitant amount of money on a system that is essentially a computer and also sucks ass. The 360 has plenty of great titles, and Halo 3 is going to top the charts. PS3 won't be seeing daylight for a while after Bungie has a go at the market.

Plus 360 has a better graphics card (albeit 50 mhz slower).

Plus 360 has a better graphics card (albeit 50 mhz slower).

EXACTLY. Besides, I think the only good Playstation console was the first one. I have it, and I still play it. Its the shit. But PS2 sucked. Outright.

Fair enough, but to fork out ridiculous amounts on a PS3 is money wasted. For gameplay it's all about Nintendo, as I say I love the 360. For the price of PS3 you can have 360 AND Wii (which are my plans).

Atari Test Drive Unlimited on 360? It's all about games that are not out yet at mo like Lost Planet and Too Human
Yeah, I remember when I used to chase the games that weren't out yet...still waiting for that Trans-Am 1968-72...

Test Drive hasn't done the job for a while. Like I said, Forza came close but didn't close the deal. I'll stick with my PS, thanks.

I'd get a wii but I'm not 12. Racing simulators, system has to be filthy with 'em. It's a defining factor. Simulators, not "I can do donuts in a car" games.

EXACTLY. Besides, I think the only good Playstation console was the first one. I have it, and I still play it. Its the shit. But PS2 sucked. Outright.
I still have a PS1 also! :D

Yeah, I remember when I used to chase the games that weren't out yet...still waiting for that Trans-Am 1968-72...

Test Drive hasn't done the job for a while. Like I said, Forza came close but didn't close the deal. I'll stick with my PS, thanks.

I'd get a wii but I'm not 12. Racing simulators, system has to be filthy with 'em. It's a defining factor. Simulators, not "I can do donuts in a car" games.

It's not all kiddie games this time on Wii - have a look at the website. There's cool stuff where your movement of the controller EXACTLY controls the movement of weapons. Red Steel and Project HAMMER look good. Nintendo get points this time round for being the only company coming up with new ideas instead of the usual bigger, better, faster approach. I'm 26.

Personally, I think that the PS3 might, might be overpriced. I say that because if I thought that PS3 was really that good of a product, I'd pay 500/600 dollars. I am impressed by the PS3's specs, its graphics, etc. But it is about the games. Right now, I don't see any games in develoment for the PS3 that I'm especially interested in, besides MGS4. And I can live without it, especially when you look at what Xbox 360 is going to have. Halo 3, GTA4, Gears of War, others. Also, Sony is just trying to use MS and Nintendo's ideas. Many elements from Xbox Live, motion-sensitive controller (which sounds half-baked, in the PS3's case). Its not worth 600 dollars, even with Blu-ray.

I still have a PS1 also! :D WOW Shaolin :P Mines still in the basement............................................................................................ .................................................................................................... ..............................................................................................somewh ere:)

WOW Shaolin :P Mines still in the basement............................................................................................ .................................................................................................... ..............................................................................................somewh ere:)

Yeah mines in a cupboard somewhere, haven't played it since I bought the first XBOX:p

The price is nasty, but I will buy a PS3... the question is when.
(The answer is, when it drops to $300.)

Reasons:
MGS4
Warhawk (loved that old game)
Final Fantasy (and not that shitastical Crystal Chronicals on Nintendo)
GTA4 (also on Xbox, but here, too)
RE5 (also here)
More Syphon Filters (because I like pain)
... and I have loved my PS1 and PS2. Still have original editions of both, and they still work. Sony products are great for that. Got hit by a car blowing a light while riding my bike and listening to a Sony CD player. Bike was trashed, I was broken all to hell... and the CD player never even fucking skipped. I bought Sony from then on.

The price is nasty, but I will buy a PS3... the question is when.
(The answer is, when it drops to $300.)

Reasons:
MGS4
Warhawk (loved that old game)
Final Fantasy (and not that shitastical Crystal Chronicals on Nintendo)
GTA4 (also on Xbox, but here, too)
RE5 (also here)
More Syphon Filters (because I like pain)
... and I have loved my PS1 and PS2. Still have original editions of both, and they still work. Sony products are great for that. Got hit by a car blowing a light while riding my bike and listening to a Sony CD player. Bike was trashed, I was broken all to hell... and the CD player never even fucking skipped. I bought Sony from then on.

Sure you didn't, like, drop your CD player in some kind of mutating waste? I could breath hard on my sister's Sony CD player and make it skip.

I do Nintendo and PC. ;)

EXACTLY. Besides, I think the only good Playstation console was the first one. I have it, and I still play it. Its the shit. But PS2 sucked. Outright.
I know. the PS2 had only 2 controller posts, not 4 wgich was the current standard, it needed a emory card, and the online connction was utter crap.

Rember: Even at $600 the PS3 is being sold AT A LOSS by Sony.

Meh. I'll buy a Wii. Between that and my PC I can play what I want!

Rember: Even at $600 the PS3 is being sold AT A LOSS by Sony.

Like every console....ever-ish?

Like every console....ever-ish?

Nope. Only MS and Sony are selling their consoles below the manufacturing costs. Only Nintendo are making profits from hardware sales.

The price is nasty, but I will buy a PS3... the question is when.
(The answer is, when it drops to $300.)

Reasons:
MGS4
Warhawk (loved that old game)
Final Fantasy (and not that shitastical Crystal Chronicals on Nintendo)
GTA4 (also on Xbox, but here, too)
RE5 (also here)
More Syphon Filters (because I like pain)
... and I have loved my PS1 and PS2. Still have original editions of both, and they still work. Sony products are great for that. Got hit by a car blowing a light while riding my bike and listening to a Sony CD player. Bike was trashed, I was broken all to hell... and the CD player never even fucking skipped. I bought Sony from then on.

My sony cd player stopped working just after a year old. Grr!!! SONY products are esentially cheap electricals - you are paying for the name rather than quality of goods.

I know. the PS2 had only 2 controller posts, not 4 wgich was the current standard, it needed a emory card, and the online connction was utter crap.

SONY admitted that themselves about their failing in the online dept. They've now ripped off xbox Live word for word so all should be good! And the triggers....and the Guide button - PS 360 anyone? :D

Rember: Even at $600 the PS3 is being sold AT A LOSS by Sony.

Meh. I'll buy a Wii. Between that and my PC I can play what I want!

I find that very hard to believe somehow.

Nintendo was gone when it started investing in endless Mario games over any real games.

Pfft...Nintendo have been devilvering the goods since 1895 (as they started as a card game manufacturer) and they have more experience in gaming than Sony and Microsoft put together. I find with nintendo games, that they are always more fun to play than the myriad of FPS games on PS, PS2, PC and XBox. Also, Sony are the copycats here, they stole Nintendo's motion sensitive idea, although they did a poor job of it. The PS3 motion sensor is nothing but a 6 direction tilt-sensor. The Wii/Revolution sensor is capable of pinpointing the controller in 3d space. Now, the Wii/Revolution will also be about a third/quarter of the price of the PS3, and it will be half that of the Xbox 360's release price; at $200/£120. This is going to let Nintendo win back what it lost from the GC, because they are the only company that is capable of producing a machine for the quality of the games, not the graphics, and at a fraction of the price, this looks set to be the way forwards. Not to mention the ability to use the Wi-Fi connection to download all of the the old Nintendo games from the NES to the N64. Now that's value for money!

Pfft...Nintendo have been devilvering the goods since 1895 (as they started as a card game manufacturer) and they have more experience in gaming than Sony and Microsoft put together. I find with nintendo games, that they are always more fun to play than the myriad of FPS games on PS, PS2, PC and XBox. Also, Sony are the copycats here, they stole Nintendo's motion sensitive idea, although they did a poor job of it. The PS3 motion sensor is nothing but a 6 direction tilt-sensor. The Wii/Revolution sensor is capable of pinpointing the controller in 3d space. Now, the Wii/Revolution will also be about a third/quarter of the price of the PS3, and it will be half that of the Xbox 360's release price; at $200/£120. This is going to let Nintendo win back what it lost from the GC, because they are the only company that is capable of producing a machine for the quality of the games, not the graphics, and at a fraction of the price, this looks set to be the way forwards. Not to mention the ability to use the Wi-Fi connection to download all of the the old Nintendo games from the NES to the N64. Now that's value for money!
I believe there's also other console's downloadable games can't remember exactly what but I think it Genesis and Dreamcast stuff....

SONY admitted that themselves about their failing in the online dept. They've now ripped off xbox Live word for word so all should be good! And the triggers....and the Guide button - PS 360 anyone? :D
Add in a more basic form of the Wiimote's motion sensing and you have a PSWii60. PSW60 for short.

Add in a more basic form of the Wiimote's motion sensing and you have a PSWii60. PSW60 for short.

Man it's 3 consoles in one....what more could you want!
*lol*

Also for people that whinged about the size of old xbox the PS3 is the same size.

The PS3 is going to be the most expensive gaming console to date, yes.

But it's also going to be the cheapest Blu-Disc DVD player in the market when it comes out. Most BDDVD players without the awesome capability of playing games are averaging near $1000.00 on their own.

The Blu-Disc also allows for much more storage than even what the 360 uses, which means developers can make huge games without resorting to disc splitting like in the old days of the PS1.
Yes, but Blu-Ray sucks. I'm not going to buy a machine that won't let me play my old DVDs.

Ok first let me say that yes i think the price for the PS3 isd outragous and i plan wait for a few months untill i buy it not only to let the price drop but also so they can work out the unavoidable glitches that the first one will have then i can laugh at all the fools who bought one on opening day and the systems pulled a 360.

anyway i am just wondering what the cost is for all the indivdual componets. because i think it works like this:

you take all the componets prices and add them together then add a few bucks and that is what th e price should be. but for some reason i think they are cutting the price down. could someone help me out
While I very much enjoy the Playstation, and I certainly plan to get one eventually, I think they have totally dropped the ball with the way they're handling the PS3. They've priced themselves out of my market, sadly, so I will not be preordering as I had planned. I could handle $400, maybe, but $600? Sorry...I could get BOTH the other systems for that.

Xbox360 is barely an improvement on the Xbox.

Wii...I've always hated Nintendo and nothing changes here.

PS3 is too god damned expensive although it actually is "next gen".

Where does that leave me? With my beautiful computer and my limitless choices in gaming. Allow me to take this moment and laugh at the people stuck with the three choices above for gaming.

Xbox360 is barely an improvement on the Xbox.

Wii...I've always hated Nintendo and nothing changes here.

PS3 is too god damned expensive although it actually is "next gen".

Where does that leave me? With my beautiful computer and my limitless choices in gaming. Allow me to take this moment and laugh at the people stuck with the three choices above for gaming.

Wii is the only true "next gen" as it's changing the way in which games are played. Nothing about the others are next-gen, just an improvement in hardware is all, and there's a big difference between old xbox and 360.

I'd buy if it comes down in price and I can actually use DVDs, and not be locked down by paranoid skitz copy protection.

Wii is the only true "next gen" as it's changing the way in which games are played. Nothing about the others are next-gen, just an improvement in hardware is all, and there's a big difference between old xbox and 360.

None of the games on the xbox 360 impressed me it all. Black on the Xbox looks better than Call of Duty 2 and Condemned combined.

As for the Wii...I'll enjoy playing the same games they've churned out for the last 15 years.

None of the games on the xbox 360 impressed me it all. Black on the Xbox looks better than Call of Duty 2 and Condemned combined.

As for the Wii...I'll enjoy playing the same games they've churned out for the last 15 years.

As for the Wii, not buying because I'd probably confuse with my Sony DVD burner. ;)

Got no Nintendo games anyway.

None of the games on the xbox 360 impressed me it all. Black on the Xbox looks better than Call of Duty 2 and Condemned combined.

As for the Wii...I'll enjoy playing the same games they've churned out for the last 15 years.

you won't see proper graphical potential on any of them until 2-3 years after release. Nintendo's different this time around. Check out the website and look for red steel and project H.A.M.M.E.R

Bollox Condemned looks good, but the face splatting bit on Fight Night on 360 can't be replicated on other consoles, and that's well done.

As for the Wii, not buying because I'd probably confuse with my Sony DVD burner. ;)

Got no Nintendo games anyway.

Funnily enough I didn't have any 360 games until I bought them after buying the console! :p

Funnily enough I didn't have any 360 games until I bought them after buying the console! :p

I've got way too many PC games to get rid off. I don't want another collection of games - expensive it is.

I've got way too many PC games to get rid off. I don't want another collection of games - expensive it is.

I hear that - I bought my pc and games after buying the 360, I play them all. You don't have to sacrifice one for the other.....just mug old ladies or somthing. :eek: :D

I hear that - I bought my pc and games after buying the 360, I play them all. You don't have to sacrifice one for the other.....just mug old ladies or somthing. :eek: :D

I don't intend to act like the people in GTA :p

Does your Wii have vibration? If so that'll just add to the experience.I know mine has :D :D ;) :D

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It's me laughing my ass off. In the UK preorder prices are in the region og 550 POUNDS.

At current exchange rates that's a good 8-900 USD.

I think the term best used hre is 'moronic'. My laptop cost that much, the gaming PC of this house cost that much. I don't think we've spent that much on the Gamecube and all it's games yet.

First, at E3 Sony announced two PS3 packages, much like the core and premium XBox 360 packages. The core PS3 will cost $500 and have only a 20GB hard drive. It also lacks memory card ports, HDMI outlets, and Wi-Fi capabilities. The premium package will cost $600 and will feature a 60GB hard drive and comes with all the goodies I just listed that the core package lacks.

$600 sounds like a ridiculous price point for a game console, but consider this: the PS3 uses Blu-Ray DVDs, which hold 50GB of information each. The 360 uses standard DVDs, just like the current generation of consoles. Also consider that the cheapest Blu-Ray player currently on the market costs $1,000 - and doesn't play video games. On top of that, the PS3 will be completely backward-compatible, unlike the 360, which is only compatible with certain games. So you're better off spending the extra $200 and getting the PS3 over the 360 because Sony has built a catch-all machine that will still be cutting-edge five years from now.

As for the Wii, keep in mind that Nintendo has promised it will cost no more than $250 - basically about half of Microsoft's and Sony's machines, so Nintendo could really end up with good sales as people make the Wii their second console. Also, Nintendo is not trying to compete head-to-head with the 360 and PS3 in the next-gen wars. They've made it very clear that they're selling a product completely different from typical game consoles, so to try to compare the Wii to 360 and/or PS3 is pointless.

Personally, I think that the PS3 might, might be overpriced. I say that because if I thought that PS3 was really that good of a product, I'd pay 500/600 dollars. I am impressed by the PS3's specs, its graphics, etc. But it is about the games. Right now, I don't see any games in develoment for the PS3 that I'm especially interested in, besides MGS4. And I can live without it, especially when you look at what Xbox 360 is going to have. Halo 3, GTA4, Gears of War, others. Also, Sony is just trying to use MS and Nintendo's ideas. Many elements from Xbox Live, motion-sensitive controller (which sounds half-baked, in the PS3's case). Its not worth 600 dollars, even with Blu-ray.

You need to check out Assasin's Creed. It will look and function much better on PS3 than 360.

*I'd just get it for my Cube, but sadly it no longer functions :(


Get a new one. They're only $100 now. If you get a used or refurbished, it's even cheaper.

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$600 sounds like a ridiculous price point for a game console, but consider this: the PS3 uses Blu-Ray DVDs, which hold 50GB of information each. The 360 uses standard DVDs, just like the current generation of consoles. Also consider that the cheapest Blu-Ray player currently on the market costs $1,000 - and doesn't play video games.<chainsawed>

Blu-ray comes in two types - single sided (25Gb) and double sided (50Gb).
I suspect the 50Gb games will be rare for now due to exorbitant cost of the media at the moment.

First, at E3 Sony announced two PS3 packages, much like the core and premium XBox 360 packages. The core PS3 will cost $500 and have only a 20GB hard drive. It also lacks memory card ports, HDMI outlets, and Wi-Fi capabilities. The premium package will cost $600 and will feature a 60GB hard drive and comes with all the goodies I just listed that the core package lacks.

$600 sounds like a ridiculous price point for a game console, but consider this: the PS3 uses Blu-Ray DVDs, which hold 50GB of information each. The 360 uses standard DVDs, just like the current generation of consoles. Also consider that the cheapest Blu-Ray player currently on the market costs $1,000 - and doesn't play video games. On top of that, the PS3 will be completely backward-compatible, unlike the 360, which is only compatible with certain games. So you're better off spending the extra $200 and getting the PS3 over the 360 because Sony has built a catch-all machine that will still be cutting-edge five years from now.

As for the Wii, keep in mind that Nintendo has promised it will cost no more than $250 - basically about half of Microsoft's and Sony's machines, so Nintendo could really end up with good sales as people make the Wii their second console. Also, Nintendo is not trying to compete head-to-head with the 360 and PS3 in the next-gen wars. They've made it very clear that they're selling a product completely different from typical game consoles, so to try to compare the Wii to 360 and/or PS3 is pointless.

And Sony did this AFTER slating Microsoft for releasing a two tiered release.
HD-DVD is out for 360 at xmas. HD should have more support than Blu-ray.

You need to check out Assasin's Creed. It will look and function much better on PS3 than 360.

And how when you consider that 360 has a slightly better graphics card? At E3 Sony unveiled NOTHING better looking than 360 and most of the stuff was just FMV not in-game footage so it's gonna look good.

And how when you consider that 360 has a slightly better graphics card?the problem is that I do NOT consider it better.

I consider the PS3 to have better Hardware.. including Graphics.

the problem is that I do NOT consider it better.

I consider the PS3 to have better Hardware.. including Graphics.

Well you are wrong then is all. The ATI chip has an extra set of memory for anti-aliasing that the Radeon of the PS3 does not. I could get all techy and geeky here but I'm not gonna. To be honest you probably won't even notice any difference between the two. It does have better hardware elsewhere, cell processors aren't great at interacting with graphics cards but anyhow who cares. The games will do the talking and that'll take a few years.

the problem is that I do NOT consider it better.

I consider the PS3 to have better Hardware.. including Graphics.

What do you mean you consider? Technical specifications are not a matter of opinion. The graphics cards are different but for all intents and purposes the PS3 card is a geforce 7900GT, and the 360 has more or less the same thing, power wise. The cell chip isnt looking good but they aimed so high it will probably still be alright.

The PS3 games at e3 looked a bit lame, and object sparse, except gran tourismo which was running on a PC. theyve a lot to sort out. At best it will be on a par, power wise, with the 360 and Wii, at worse it wont. Either way its gonna cost twice as much. Sony are relying too much on the fanboys who will buy the thing whether it turns out any good or not. the problem with this is that a lot of them wont be able to afford it.

the blu ray player could save them, but it will be 9 months before the thing is widely available anyway, and prices are sure to drop.

I worry for sony. I hope it turns out good, if only because I have a PC and im sick of games being developed for consoles and PC and having shit graphics. at least if its good then the consoles wont start dragging down the graphics quality for a little while.

Wii is the only true "next gen" as it's changing the way in which games are played. Nothing about the others are next-gen, just an improvement in hardware is all, and there's a big difference between old xbox and 360.

Exactly my point :)

Nintendo is the only company that even considers breaking from tradition, seeing as the basic hand-held unit always was held with 2 hands, now you have 2 SEPERATE units, each with individual motion sensors, and function buttons, and the main stick has an infra-red pointer too :D

Go with the 360.

There's only so far graphics can go. The Xbox has DELIVERED us there in a fairly cheap package that now has the glitches worked out.

Sony just lost their huge share of the market.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Actually, the cheap but ballistically fun package will be the WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII. The Xbox 360 is basically the poor man's PC. Nothing more. There really isn't anything innovative about it except for XBL, but the Wii will have the same type of thing, plus most of nintendo's back catelogue. I honestly don't thing Sony is pushing for massive amounts of sales out the door on the PS3. They are pushing for long term sales figures that will ramp up as the price drops and the games library gets bigger. At the very least over time they are pretty much guaranteed over a million sales in Japan, probably quite a bit more over the long term. The people who are truly concerned about price will go for the Wii while the big spenders will end up popping for the PS3. Not to mention that the Xbox 360's curernt sales figures are basically as bad as the Dreamcast's were at a comparable point in time after launch, and we all know how well that did.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Actually, the cheap but ballistically fun package will be the WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII. The Xbox 360 is basically the poor man's PC. Nothing more. There really isn't anything innovative about it except for XBL, but the Wii will have the same type of thing, plus most of nintendo's back catelogue. I honestly don't thing Sony is pushing for massive amounts of sales out the door on the PS3. They are pushing for long term sales figures that will ramp up as the price drops and the games library gets bigger. At the very least over time they are pretty much guaranteed over a million sales in Japan, probably quite a bit more over the long term. The people who are truly concerned about price will go for the Wii while the big spenders will end up popping for the PS3. Not to mention that the Xbox 360's curernt sales figures are basically as bad as the Dreamcast's were at a comparable point in time after launch, and we all know how well that did.

Dreamcast was good though.;)

Dreamcast was good though.;)
It had a couple of good games yes, but nothing that was majorly popular, not to mention no major franchises connected to it except *shudder* sonic.

It had a couple of good games yes, but nothing that was majorly popular, not to mention no major franchises connected to it except *shudder* sonic.

And don't forget the cool Tamagotchi stylee living controller animals! :D

Shadowman and Soul Calibur were the best things to grace the Dreamcast.

It had a couple of good games yes, but nothing that was majorly popular, not to mention no major franchises connected to it except *shudder* sonic.
Dreamcast had some great games, but their marketing sucked. they had a revolutionary concept with their VMU's being portable games in themselves, but they didn't push that concept.

Exactly my point :)

Nintendo is the only company that even considers breaking from tradition, seeing as the basic hand-held unit always was held with 2 hands, now you have 2 SEPERATE units, each with individual motion sensors, and function buttons, and the main stick has an infra-red pointer too :D
It's really weird because they started the tradition.

For PS3 cost for the 60MB version I have heard about $500-600 bucks as the starter price. But of course stores will knock it down to probably around 400 for intial sales but will add on a lot of stuff to bring it back to 600

Technical specifications are not a matter of opinion. I agree.
What do you mean you consider? just using shaolin words.. and turning them around

the specs say the PS3 is superior to uncle Gates' Box.

Exactly my point :)

Nintendo is the only company that even considers breaking from tradition, seeing as the basic hand-held unit always was held with 2 hands, now you have 2 SEPERATE units, each with individual motion sensors, and function buttons, and the main stick has an infra-red pointer too :D
except both units still need to be held with Two Hands, and with the old controllers, I could play one handed... Yes even with the playstation controller, but I can't see doing that with the Wii now.

I agree.
just using shaolin words.. and turning them around

the specs say the PS3 is superior to uncle Gates' Box.

The specs assume everything is used to it's fullest.

The Cell will be, politely put a son-of-a-bitch to work at it's full potential. RSX, sure it's a 7900GT pretty much but the Cell will require a ludicrous amount of multithreading to get it's full potential out. That's multithreading experience well ahead of mainstream computing.

Dualcore on just hit on desktops, consles before today have been single-cored. The 360 uses 3 cores, that's not going to be easy to code for. The Cell uses 1 core like the 360's and 6 or 7 (can't remember, one is disabled though) smaller 'subprocessors'. It's like trying to co-ordinate a group of midgets to lift an elephant rather than a smaller group of weightlifters.

ok here are my thots

im inbetween microsoft and Nintendo because they are both great companies with DIGNATY!

i mean come on! sony is like pepsi, the other company comes out with a great idea, then they just copy it, for example, the Wii came out with motion sensing controllers and what does sony do? MOTION SENSING CONTROLLERS!
sony is just a buntch of imagination-less mootchers if you ask me, in fact, alot of people dont even like sony like the guy who makes Ctrl-alt-dlt comics

and while we are all bickering about graphics and glitches, we dont even see how FUN the games are, i mean the metroid games are awsome and the zelda one is going to rock,
and besides, nintendo has started the console era, microsoft and sony just came in till later. here are my reviews of the systems:

the Wii: wow, im glad i waited this long
features:
motion sensing controller
Wi-fi internet for games
small size of 3 DvD cases stacked
great games, note only 2 mario games
SUPER SMASH BROS INTERNET WOOO!
backwards compatible with:
NES
SNES
N64 (this was a great system)
and GCN
great graphics

X-box 360
incredible graphics
X-box live
plays DvDs
plays music
hi-def
HALO 3 WOOOO!

Ps-3 (waste of money)
hi-def
non-central server internet
plays DvDs
plays music
backwards compatible with:
Ps2
Ps
sucking real bad

PC!!!!
incredible graphics
internet, period
downloads games
plays DvDs
plays music
helps with homework
can sit, beg, and roll over lol

there we have it, what ive been wanting to say for a LONG time

N64 come out at £250 in UK ( no idea on $ approx 400 I guess), after 1 month the price dropped to £150.... I was gutted!

Sucks to be you. :p

One thing Sony has going for them is the newer Final Fantasy games. *drool*

Yes, but Blu-Ray sucks. I'm not going to buy a machine that won't let me play my old DVDs.
What machine would that be? The ps3 will play cds and dvds as well as blu-ray discs.

no one seems to factor in the price of a game and possibly a second controller when you buy a new console. thats another $60-$150, depending on how many games and type of controller.(wait, does the ps3 have built in wireless? i really dont know).

that raises the price to $560-$750. for a system with an as yet unutilized technology that will need more technology to produce. hd-dvd is already capable of being mass produced.

raise your hand if you buy a console and nothing else.

no one seems to factor in the price of a game and possibly a second controller when you buy a new console. thats another $60-$150, depending on how many games and type of controller.(wait, does the ps3 have built in wireless? i really dont know).

that raises the price to $560-$750. for a system with an as yet unutilized technology that will need more technology to produce. hd-dvd is already capable of being mass produced.

raise your hand if you buy a console and nothing else.
*Raises hand*

at first, I bought a PS2 only (it came with one controller and I got a used memory card.) used it as a DVD player and played my PS1 games on it untill the PS2 Games I was waiting for were released.

Edit: I just remembered, my memory card was free from the store I got it from.

Nintendo is better. PC is also better. For that price you may as well get a PC.

Stop waisting your time with consoles. PC wins.

Stop waisting your time with consoles. PC wins.
while I will admit that the PC is more versitile when it comes to function... may I add some small facts.

I have yet to see spamware, addware and viruses made for the console system.

I have yet to see a console fail in running a program because of an obscure setting made by another program/component/drivers.

I would rather my Nieces and Nephews and their friends play on my playstation/sega/nintendo system than on my PC.

I have yet to see a game made for a console to not run because a component is obsolete.

I play certain games on my PC, but I also get great use out of my consoles.

I'll stick to my 360,PS2 and I am going to get a Wii the PS3 is not worth its price at all and alot of the stuff was ripped off of the 360 and Wii and its no better than the 360

Its expensive and I probably wont bother to get one but considering how many people were willing to buy xbox 360s for excess of 2 grand I'm sure sony will be fine.

Fleckenstein, your siggy is out of date. :p

while I will admit that the PC is more versitile when it comes to function... may I add some small facts.

I have yet to see spamware, addware and viruses made for the console system.

I have yet to see a console fail in running a program because of an obscure setting made by another program/component/drivers.

I would rather my Nieces and Nephews and their friends play on my playstation/sega/nintendo system than on my PC.

I have yet to see a game made for a console to not run because a component is obsolete.

I play certain games on my PC, but I also get great use out of my consoles.
Yeah, that.

And second your other-I went through film school using my PS2 as my DVD player-and CD player for quite a while.

well the ps 2 and the ps weren't bad, good costs, bot i gotta break it to you, the PSP sux! not only does justp lay reak, but reviews say "it can do everything, but play good games" and ill admit the DS was off to a rocky start, but its got some good games out

second of all, the PS3 doesn't have all that many features and plus, i could save quite a bit of money just selling the gamecube console itself to get the Wii after all, it can use GCN controllers and play GCN games while being able to use the memory cards, its two systems (or more) in one

oh and the 360 is great too

well the ps 2 and the ps weren't bad, good costs, bot i gotta break it to you, the PSP sux! not only does justp lay reak, but reviews say "it can do everything, but play good games" and ill admit the DS was off to a rocky start, but its got some good games out

second of all, the PS3 doesn't have all that many features and plus, i could save quite a bit of money just selling the gamecube console itself to get the Wii after all, it can use GCN controllers and play GCN games while being able to use the memory cards, its two systems (or more) in one

oh and the 360 is great too

Gotta admit, you're right about the DS. I've seen a first peson shooter for the PSP (forgot the name) but it was a complete waste of time. The little thumbstick is NOT suitable. FPS games on the DS are so much more fluent; like Metroid Prime: Hunters. Instead of some fidly thumbstick, you use the touch screen to look, jump, change weapons, morph, roll/move in morph form, and in touch mode, you can even use it to shoot....oh, and it's a map too...