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He, Him, The Father... why is god (specifically the Abrahamic god) considered to be a male? If god does not have a physical form, how can it have a gender? If god does have a physical form, why would it have genitals? God is asexual.

Is this just the bias of the times reflected in writing that has never been corrected, or is god's junk an essential part of the Abrahamic religions?


DISCLAIMER: THIS IS ASSUMING THAT THERE IS A GOD.

*anticipates mandatory "because there is no god. +1." responses despite disclaimer*

Cuz he's the man. And everyone loves the man.

Most modern religions have their origins in patriarchal societies.

God is a thought.

Well, in Christianity in any case, God was supposed to have a son. And since an asexual being and a female having a son would just be kind of weird, and two female beings making babies has wily lesbian overtones, that leaves...

Male.

Ancient bias in the Christian part. As I understand from someone who is Jewish and theoretically knows this (as I do not), in Hebrew, God is referred to as an "It" with a slight connotation to gender - and this gender changes based upon how He/She is acting. Sort of like the name thing - same God, different facet.

Ok?

God is a thought.
God is Love.



Burns: I bring you love...

Moe: He's packing love!

Mob: KILL HIM!

God must be a women. Would explain why the world is so poorly designed and prone to such irrational destruction.

I mean, just look at the Native Americans. They weren’t paying any attention to God. Instead they were whoring around with Mother Earth, so God, in her feminine Jealousy hit him with colonization and Smallpox.

You know STDs and pregnancy? Well, we all know that if a women isn’t getting any, the last thing she wants is for anyone else to.

probably the same reason why ships, boats, cars, and almost everything else is a 'She'.

God is Love.



Burns: I bring you love...

Moe: He's packing love!

Mob: KILL HIM!


Good episode :p

probably the same reason why ships, boats, cars, and almost everything else is a 'She'.

Cell phones too apparentally. (Either that or crossdressers)

*anticipates mandatory "because there is no god. +1." responses despite disclaimer*

Well, since you asked so nicely. Because there is no god. +1

In actuality, because we karyotyped God. 46, XY.

Also, because Jesus was a guy, and dads always want sons.

Unless Jesus was actually female.

Well, in Christianity in any case, God was supposed to have a son. And since an asexual being and a female having a son would just be kind of weird, and two female beings making babies has wily lesbian overtones, that leaves...

Male.

Oh yeah, and Genesis talks about God making Adam in his image. And then making Eve... well, kind of just making it up as he went along I suppose.

Oh yeah, and Genesis talks about God making Adam in his image. And then making Eve... well, kind of just making it up as he went along I suppose.

Well, I'm wondering if this is just a reflection of the bias of the people who wrote all this down, or if this is a fundamental "truth." Does "God made man in His own image" mean literally that? If it is a bias of the times, will it ever be overturned?

Fundies?

Well, I'm wondering if this is just a reflection of the bias of the people who wrote all this down, or if this is a fundamental "truth." Does "God made man in His own image" mean literally that? If it is a bias of the times, will it ever be overturned?

Fundies?

Well, the more important question here is, what did he make woman in the shape of?

You're right about the pro-male bias in the Judeo-Christian religions. Actually, a lot of these religions (perhaps going back to their roots in Zoroastrianism) were reactions to the prominent status women played in the times; women had the power to give birth to children and, on average, were more intelligent (as we see even today) and were thus revered, so a group of men decided to make themselves more dominant by creating a religion that gave men special rights; notice how no women ever founded major religions? This is evidenced by the fact that cultures untouched by Western religions, like the Native Americans, have much more respect for women than Europe in society. In fact, when the Europeans settled in the Americas and the natives noticed how the men were doing the farming, they felt that this was overly disrespectful to women, who did all the farming in Native American society.

And yes, even though I don't believe in God in the least, I suppose making man in God's image means that man's genitals are in the image of God's.

Well, the more important question here is, what did he make woman in the shape of?
Answer: dunno, but I like the shape! :D

I believe that if there is a God, God wouldn't be male or female, but both or neither. I mean, think about it, if there is a God s/he created everything. So everything we know comes from God. We obviously know and understand male and female, so God must have male and female qualities. Kind of like the yin and yang...God is both the male energy and the female energy. God is considered a male because most of the major religions were very patriarchal even if they aren't now. However, there are a few religions that are matriarchal or, such as Wicca, have both a God and a Goddess. It's basically how we interpret it. I mean, we don't want to call God an it, because we generally respect God and it doesnt sound very respectful. And we need a pronoun for God, so it's either he or she. It's basically how we interpret God.

God+Mary=Jesus ;)

I'd assume a 'He'

I believe that if there is a God, God wouldn't be male or female, but both or neither. I mean, think about it, if there is a God s/he created everything. So everything we know comes from God. We obviously know and understand male and female, so God must have male and female qualities. Kind of like the yin and yang...God is both the male energy and the female energy. God is considered a male because most of the major religions were very patriarchal even if they aren't now. However, there are a few religions that are matriarchal or, such as Wicca, have both a God and a Goddess. It's basically how we interpret it. I mean, we don't want to call God an it, because we generally respect God and it doesnt sound very respectful. And we need a pronoun for God, so it's either he or she. It's basically how we interpret God.

Why does the existance of a God necisitate that they created everything? After all, couldn't a 'God' simply be a higher form of being, that may have taken some hand in shaping the world, but wasn't necessary for it's creation? Take a look at Greek mythology, for example. Or any number of other mythologies, I'm sure.

What I find fascinating about this issue is the linguistics that accompany the theology. I know that in Latin and all its child languages, the "he" pronoun is generally preferred over the "she." This might be true for Aramaic as well, I'm not sure and I'm calling on someone with an authority in ancient Middle-Eastern languages to shed some light on this. But, if this kind of tendency exists in Aramaic or ancient Persian, what I want to know is whether the pro-male tendencies first appeared in the religion or language?

God+Mary=Jesus ;)

I'd assume a 'He'

There could still be a God that doesn't follow that one isolated interpretation, despite the fact that I'm an atheist. God as a more universal principle does not have a gender. The popularity of Christianity has only made God so, and subsequently given males a much higher status in society than they originally had, as I previously explained.

i think god is an "it"... but he is refered to in the sense of a male because in the Early languages the term "it" didnt exist, even today this term is not found in any of the holy languages (Arabic, Hebrew and Aramic)... and they refer to the unknown as he.... so probably thats why...

God+Mary=Jesus ;)

I'd assume a 'He'

Is Jesus biologically related to Mary?

Is Jesus biologically related to Mary?

i actually never understood that part in christianity... im not a christian, but i know alot about it... but this part i get confused on...

is Jesus the Son of Mary, or is he god?, and if he is god... then who is the holy spirit!!!, and who is joseph???

Is Jesus biologically related to Mary?

They didn't have the technology to give birth to someone elses child then?
(I don't believe he was the child of god, I believe he existed and was probably a "nice guy" but I don't believe he was related to god or that there was even a God at all. But for this thread I'd have to assume that there was a God and I decided to go by the Christian God because I'm farily ignorant of everything else, but I'm working on fixing that so just give me time.)

Well, the more important question here is, what did he make woman in the shape of?

Perfection! AKA, me! XD

God must be a women. Would explain why the world is so poorly designed and prone to such irrational destruction.

I mean, just look at the Native Americans. They weren’t paying any attention to God. Instead they were whoring around with Mother Earth, so God, in her feminine Jealousy hit him with colonization and Smallpox.

You know STDs and pregnancy? Well, we all know that if a women isn’t getting any, the last thing she wants is for anyone else to.

ROFLMAO. That is surprisingly persuasive.

Is Jesus biologically related to Mary?

I really would like to know.
If not, what is Jesus' genetic structure?
If so, then that means god... had his way with her.

what defines maleness? For humans, its biological. Males have outties, females, innies. Does anyone seriously argue that God is a male, though, and if they do, is it because a) it says so in their religion or b) God has balls and shaft?

I really would like to know.
If not, what is Jesus' genetic structure?
If so, then that means god... had his way with her.

Wouldn't put it past him. :p

Male.

Not just a male, but a deadbeat dad. We never did see any alimony or support payments mentioned now did we? Nope, he just fathered the kid and said "bye bye" :p

He, Him, The Father... why is god (specifically the Abrahamic god) considered to be a male? If god does not have a physical form, how can it have a gender? If god does have a physical form, why would it have genitals? God is asexual.

Is this just the bias of the times reflected in writing that has never been corrected, or is god's junk an essential part of the Abrahamic religions?


What girl will say "I am the Alpha and Omega, the beggining and end, I am I".

I find it hard to belive a girl says that, besides I think God is all above that but if his super-ego had to be reflected on more human terms it would relate more to a guys.

Sorry girls :p

The answer is simple. Human kind is called "man" therefore He would be the more generic unbiased term.

I've agreed with you for quite a while, see my sig.
And God is refered to as he in the OT because there is no real word for "it" in Hebrew, the word for "he" is used instead. So they used he/it for god.
(conjecture here)
I'd say that it's considered to be male now because you don't usually use "it" for a living being in Hebrew, so after a while they assumed it was a he, because that's how it was refered to.

To quote George Carlin:
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy would've been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I say "this guy", because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if there is a God, it has to be a man.

No woman could or would ever fuck things up like this. So, if there is a God, I think most reasonable people might agree that he's at least incompetent, and maybe, just maybe, doesn't give a shit. Doesn't give a shit, which I admire in a person, and which would explain a lot of these bad results.


Thus, god is a man.

Well, in Christianity in any case, God was supposed to have a son. And since an asexual being and a female having a son would just be kind of weird, and two female beings making babies has wily lesbian overtones, that leaves...

Male.

Yeah... but Mary just carried Jesus and treated Him as her own, so she was a surrogate, I believe. Until you prove otherwise I will liken God to a She.

He, Him, The Father... why is god (specifically the Abrahamic god) considered to be a male?

Jewish answer: Because the human soul is female.

My answer: Got any tacos?

Yeah... but Mary just carried Jesus and treated Him as her own, so she was a surrogate, I believe. Until you prove otherwise I will liken God to a She.

Actually, without a paternal chromosome, no Y ... Jesus had to be a she.

Men are better than women, and God is the greatest being, therefore God must be male. :p

Perfection! AKA, me! XD
I can buy that. If you include TBD in your definition of perfection as well.
:fluffle:

God is genderless.

I suppose that would make him an 'it'. I still refer to Him as, well, Him, but I don't think of him as being male. God does not have genitalia.

God is but an assumption created for the sake of abstract argument and with time became a myth.

God is but an assumption created for the sake of abstract argument and with time became a myth.

Wait... are you talking about in reality, or within this thread? :p

He is the 'father' thus he is a man, just not in the normal since of man.

Could god be just a little adolescent girl? But, I'm not sure though. Don't take my word for it...

btw, I don't even know what myrth is? :confused:

He is the 'father' thus he is a man, just not in the normal since of man.

So, god has an X and a Y chromosome?

Well, God was around before sex. God created sex. So God is without sex. In the Christian tradition, people have spoken of God using male and female metaphors. Some people used a metaphor of God being a Mother, and that's accepted by the mainstream, but the term "Father" is supported by the Bible.

Someone had some questions about basic Christian theology. Well, God is personal, not just a guiding force, principle, or thought. God is and always was composed of three Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The Son of God took flesh as a male, Jesus (He was circumcised, He was seen naked, etc). He really was the son of Mary. That fact almost can't be disputed. The Holy Spirit conceived Jesus, but without having sex. Joseph was the husband of Mary, who helped raise Jesus. The Holy Spirit is the Person of God who spoke through the prophets, and dwells within Christians.

The reason for the complex Trinity belief is that Jesus said some things that sound awefully God-like, forgiving sins and all that. But then you see Jesus talking to God, so there are at least two Persons there.

-snip-

OK, thanks. You seem well-versed enough; what is Jesus' genetic composure? Does he have 50% of Mary's genes? If so, whose genes make up the other 50%? Or was Mary just a vessel, contributing no genetic material? Either way, Jesus was a zygote at one point, right? So whose DNA did he have?

I can buy that. If you include TBD in your definition of perfection as well.
:fluffle:

Aww *blushes*

:fluffle:

To quote George Carlin:
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy would've been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I say "this guy", because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if there is a God, it has to be a man.

No woman could or would ever fuck things up like this. So, if there is a God, I think most reasonable people might agree that he's at least incompetent, and maybe, just maybe, doesn't give a shit. Doesn't give a shit, which I admire in a person, and which would explain a lot of these bad results.


Thus, god is a man.
I fail to understand. Any real man would have thrown the Earth through the window out of frustration by now.

God is a women, or at the very least, a metrosexual.

I fail to understand. Any real man would have thrown the Earth through the window out of frustration by now.

God is a women, or at the very least, a metrosexual.

Maybe he's stoned.

does not exist.

does not exist.

...

DISCLAIMER: THIS IS ASSUMING THAT THERE IS A GOD.

*anticipates mandatory "because there is no god. +1." responses despite disclaimer*

"God" is a Religious entity... nothing more nothing less... "god" is a reason for people to do the right thing..

and personally i don't care if "god" is a he she it... WHATEVER

...

What, you missed mine?

What, you missed mine?
No, I just declined to comment because you actually read the OP.

We naturally declare unkown gender as male. Just live with it.

"Iww a bug!"
"Don't kill him!"

God is a sociopathic 13-year-old boy who tortures us because it's fun.

God must be a women. Would explain why the world is so poorly designed and prone to such irrational destruction.

I mean, just look at the Native Americans. They weren’t paying any attention to God. Instead they were whoring around with Mother Earth, so God, in her feminine Jealousy hit him with colonization and Smallpox.

You know STDs and pregnancy? Well, we all know that if a women isn’t getting any, the last thing she wants is for anyone else to.

You're Funny

Well of COURSE God is male.

No woman could or would screw things up like this.

We naturally declare unkown gender as male. Just live with it.

"Iww a bug!"
"Don't kill him!"
Unless it's a mode of transportation. Planes, boats, cars -- almost universally referred to with female pronouns...at least in English.

He, Him, The Father... why is god (specifically the Abrahamic god) considered to be a male? If god does not have a physical form, how can it have a gender? If god does have a physical form, why would it have genitals? God is asexual.

Is this just the bias of the times reflected in writing that has never been corrected, or is god's junk an essential part of the Abrahamic religions?


DISCLAIMER: THIS IS ASSUMING THAT THERE IS A GOD.

*anticipates mandatory "because there is no god. +1." responses despite disclaimer*

Actually, I'm pretty sure that the Holy Ghost was referred to as feminine in the original writings of the Bible, but that got edited over by the revisionists of the Middle Ages. God isn't really male or female, because those things are a result of physiological aspects (chromosomes, glands, brain, hormones, sex organs, all that) which I don't think that God has in any physical sense. But at least in English, "It" is too impersonal, so we generally revert to "he".

Personally, I think God can be whatever God chooses to be.

God is a sociopathic 13-year-old boy who tortures us because it's fun.

yep and we are just bytes on the screen of his xbox, thank god he's learning how to play the game shame he cant do it better tho!

yep and we are just bytes on the screen of his xbox, thank god he's learning how to play the game shame he cant do it better tho!

No, no, no. If you were here some time ago, there was a thread that explained it all. God, and his angels, are actually a corporation, with him as the CEO trying develop their latest build of "Real Life", a MMORPG. But problems in development, shortages in resources and general competition from the likes of Vishnu, lawsuits from Zeus and his rival corporation made it a mess.

Apparently Real Life was to be a big kicker. Then it got messed up. :p

see the christian god is male for the simple fact that they believe he created man in HIS image, therefore men look like god

no women do not count as they were made from one of man's ribs later

To quote George Carlin:
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy would've been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I say "this guy", because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if there is a God, it has to be a man.

No woman could or would ever fuck things up like this. So, if there is a God, I think most reasonable people might agree that he's at least incompetent, and maybe, just maybe, doesn't give a shit. Doesn't give a shit, which I admire in a person, and which would explain a lot of these bad results.


Thus, god is a man.

God didn't 'fuck' things up, Satan did.

God didn't 'fuck' things up, Satan did.

If God created everything, then He (sic) created Satan. If Satan fucked things up, it's because of God. If you are omni-present, omniscient and omnipotent then you must be omni-responsible.

You know, they're right, God must be male. He screws things up and then tries to put the blame on someone else.

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There is either no god or all the gods popular at anytime from greeks to nose gods to mother earth to budda to sheeva to allah everybody including mooby hehe. Anyways of course it's a male in the bible it was put together deciphered whatever by a bunch of roman men pagans i might add a lifelong one named constantine in particular so it was made by a buisness man a very good one but a man nonetheless. So this supposed Holy book is biased. And i feel bad for the devil bad rap. Also everyone knows the church just wanted to demonize wemon to make themselves better original sin, eve, whatever althought im on the suprised side that they didn't try to claim stan was a woman althought satans powerful they were trying to portray women as being evil but weak it's awful. I think the one thing we can agree on is that constantine wasn't getting laid.

He, Him, The Father... why is god (specifically the Abrahamic god) considered to be a male? If god does not have a physical form, how can it have a gender? If god does have a physical form, why would it have genitals? God is asexual.

Is this just the bias of the times reflected in writing that has never been corrected, or is god's junk an essential part of the Abrahamic religions?


DISCLAIMER: THIS IS ASSUMING THAT THERE IS A GOD.

*anticipates mandatory "because there is no god. +1." responses despite disclaimer*

Man was made in His image. He does have a physical form. Woman was created from Man as a partner. Woman was not created in God's image as Man was. Therefore, God is a He.

(plus, if God were female...sperm would taste like chocolate :D )

God cannot be either male or female, because humans are said to be made in His own likeness. He is both and he is neither.

Sorta like the concept of the trinity, it's really best if you don't think about it:)

You need some pronoun when referring to him, so why not "him"?

I want to see someone say he's the "Holy Feminine" :D

Personally I don't think God has a specific gender.

We refer to God as male and Natural Order as female.

The two are the same thing.

The difference is that God fucks with us - he's male - and we fuck with Mother Nature - she's female.

I don't know whether god is male or female. What I do know is that god put the world on the oven then left the room, forgetting to close the fire. It's always the same when you leave things unatended: it goes from bad to worse.

Personally, I'd say a non-physical, one-of-a-kind being wouldn't really have need of any kind of reproductive organs, so...neither.

Anyway, I notice that women tend to want God to be female, and men for God to be male. (exceptions exceptions, but what do I care?) Thus, I assume that people just don't want to sound Deiphilic...(dei = God, philia = sexual attraction, thus deiphilia = ...) :cool:

Two rednecks are getting up there in years, so they make a pact that whoever dies first will come back and report to the other on what Heaven is like. Sure enough, a week later, one of them passes on. The night after the funeral, Zeke is out sitting on his porch, when a ghost appears.
"Rafe, is that you?"
"Yep, Zeke, it's me all right."
"Well, can you tell me what Heaven's like, Rafe?"
"You're not gonna like it, Zeke."
"Well, tell me anyway. I gotta know!"
"God is black."
"Black!?!"
"Yup. And She's pissed!"

He, Him, The Father... why is god (specifically the Abrahamic god) considered to be a male? If god does not have a physical form, how can it have a gender? If god does have a physical form, why would it have genitals? God is asexual.

Is this just the bias of the times reflected in writing that has never been corrected, or is god's junk an essential part of the Abrahamic religions?


DISCLAIMER: THIS IS ASSUMING THAT THERE IS A GOD.

*anticipates mandatory "because there is no god. +1." responses despite disclaimer*
*YAWNS* I refer to him, as he. But anyone who acually beleives he is a specific gender, and DEBATES over it is a moron. He's beyond a body. He's not Zeus you know.

Many languages use gender to refer to even inanimate objects. Referring to God as He and Him does not mean God has a penis.
I believe that a being such as God would encompass both genders and how we refer to God's gender would entirely rely on how WE are relating to God and/or the stance God is choosing to take with us.

The Genesis account of man in God's image is only valid if you subscribe to a limited literal interpretation. I much prefer to see it as man is not created in the physical image of God, but the spiritiual image of God.

God as a physical man being that has intercourse with Mary to father Jesus is the domain of the Latter Day Saints. I don't put any stock in that belief.

Of course, as was raised by another poster, I often wonder what the genes of Jesus would reveal. One presumes he would be genetically Mary's son, but would he have any other genes? Joseph's?

God is whatever that particular religion defines it to be ... most of the majors are patriarchal, it follows that the ultimate leader would be male

I define it as an it though as it depends on the religion

GOD IS FAKE YOU CRAZY RELIGIOUS FUCKS!!!!!!!! :upyours: :mp5:

GOD IS FAKE YOU CRAZY RELIGIOUS FUCKS!!!!!!!! :upyours: :mp5:
Well, let's not be a pretentious, offensive ass about our belief system or anything...

I mean, far be it for people in a thread about God, which assumes that God is real in the first post, impose their beliefs on you by forcing you to click on the page and read them all...since we all know that you're incapable of skipping a forum topic...

Douchebaggery ahoy.

Lets look at the evidence. The world is clearly poorly designed, with numerous natural disasters (excluding those caused by us:p ) and a tendency to go through random fluctuations in temperature periodically that wipe out a large number of species. So clearly a half-finished bodged DIY job. The dominant species on Earth, humankind, who are meant to have been made in the image of god, are clearly highly flawed, attempting to destroy other members of the species in wars largely generated by irrational and aggressive nationalistic feeling, even attempting to develop weapons that could destroy the world at the flick of a switch. OF COURSE GOD IS MALE, FOOLS!:rolleyes:

Lets look at the evidence. The world is clearly poorly designed, with numerous natural disasters (excluding those caused by us:p ) and a tendency to go through random fluctuations in temperature periodically that wipe out a large number of species. So clearly a half-finished bodged DIY job. The dominant species on Earth, humankind, who are meant to have been made in the image of god, are clearly highly flawed, attempting to destroy other members of the species in wars largely generated by irrational and aggressive nationalistic feeling, even attempting to develop weapons that could destroy the world at the flick of a switch. OF COURSE GOD IS MALE, FOOLS!:rolleyes:

On the other hand, God did create kittens, flowers, and a species that maintains a stock of bubblegum and candles.

As for the people saying God is both...Hermaphrodite Jesus would like a word with you.

...Hermaphrodite Jesus would like a word with you.
OMG ROFL! Thank you for making me laugh out loud! :fluffle:

OMG ROFL! Thank you for making me laugh out loud! :fluffle:

You've obviously never heard of...http://raptorj.ytmnd.com/
The Raptor Jesus fad was one of my favorite Internet events.

On the other hand, God did create kittens, flowers, and a species that maintains a stock of bubblegum and candles.

As for the people saying God is both...Hermaphrodite Jesus would like a word with you.

Hermaphrodite Jesus! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL :D But, on more serious matters, i refuse to believe that there is any living beings in the known universe (apart from maybe mice) that do not like kittens!

The Christian God is always given a masculine title in the Bible (including the gospels in Jesus's conversations). God is described as "Father", Jesus was an actual human man, and even the Holy Spirit is referred to as masculine. So I don't see what basis anybody would have for saying that the Christian God is anything other than masculine.

As an aside, in Catholic theology, marriage is considered a symbol of the masculine God's relationship with the Church which is considered feminine.


As far as Jesus's birth, it's not widely believed in the Christian mainstreem that God "had sex" with Mary. To assume that that is the only way that Jesus could have been born is showing a lack of understanding in the concept of an omnipotent God.

God is a giant penis!

If God created everything, then He (sic) created Satan. If Satan fucked things up, it's because of God. If you are omni-present, omniscient and omnipotent then you must be omni-responsible.

You know, they're right, God must be male. He screws things up and then tries to put the blame on someone else.

Try reading the Bible. If that isnt your thing, then why argue over God? The Bible is pretty much the authority on God. If you dont believe in Him, thats fine, but why argue then?

God is righteous and just. He created Satan as an angel, but he became arrogant and wanted to rule over the heavens. God cast him down from heaven. He could not completely get rid of Satan for rebelling, however, because He is righteous and just.
When Satan commits his last crime, he will be brought to trial and thrown into a lake of fire for eternity.

I dont pretend to be a biblical scholar, and no one can truly know exactly what God's plans are, and why He did what He did.

because in Creation, Adam is created in God's image, and Eve created from Adam. Therefore, God would be male.

there is the additional point of God and Mary creating Jesus, but I don't particularly subscribe to that.

I'd say God is male. I mean, the most beautiful thing in creation is the male body, afterwards.

No, I am not biased on this issue :p

Try reading the Bible. If that isnt your thing, then why argue over God? The Bible is pretty much the authority on God. If you dont believe in Him, thats fine, but why argue then?

God is righteous and just. He created Satan as an angel, but he became arrogant and wanted to rule over the heavens. God cast him down from heaven. He could not completely get rid of Satan for rebelling, however, because He is righteous and just.
When Satan commits his last crime, he will be brought to trial and thrown into a lake of fire for eternity.

I dont pretend to be a biblical scholar, and no one can truly know exactly what God's plans are, and why He did what He did.

The Bible is rehashed Semitic myths in bad translation. It's hearsay evidence and would be inadmissable in court.

God is whatever you choose to invent, as far as I know. Without firsthand experience it's all asstalk.

god is Jimi hendrix

god is Jimi hendrix
pshaw, clapton is god.

pshaw, clapton is god.
And proof that even Gods can fall. My girlfriend will hurt me if she reads this.

Most things in nature that produce life, are either female or have a dominet female gene. It makes sense that god is a woman and the bible was just the start of the anti feminist movement :D

God is righteous and just. He created Satan as an angel, but he became arrogant and wanted to rule over the heavens. God cast him down from heaven. He could not completely get rid of Satan for rebelling, however, because He is righteous and just.
When Satan commits his last crime, he will be brought to trial and thrown into a lake of fire for eternity.

Irrelevant as this is to the discussion of a spiritual being's gender, I must chip in...

God created Satan. Satan is the Source of All Evil. God is the Source of the Source of All Evil?

Anyway, if Satan became arrogant and evil, it was because God Created Satan in that way, predisposed to arrogance and evil. Therefore, God is responsible for Satan's fall, and hence Man's fall. It can only follow that God has sinned by leading all of Mankind into sin (since tempting another person into sin is a sin). God cannot sin. Therefore, God either did not create Satan, God does not exist, or God is not all-good.

Or, we could just stop trying to act all high-and-mighty about our vast wisdom of the universe, and play some NationStates.

Some of you seem to be arguing over the identity of your Lord God. Ok kids games up its me!

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When Satan commits his last crime, he will be brought to trial and thrown into a lake of fire for eternity.

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So he'll just throw Satan back into hell? 'a lake of fire'. Corruption really is in the highest places...and they say you can;t bribe the creator:p

Did you mean "myth"?

So he'll just throw Satan back into hell? 'a lake of fire'. Corruption really is in the highest places...and they say you can;t bribe the creator:p

You can't bribe the Creator, but for 20 bucks, I can put in a good word for you...

You can't bribe the Creator, but for 20 bucks, I can put in a good word for you...

Hee hee! Please refer to my earlier post..the I am God one. Shame on you for thinking you could influence me



(I'm off dairy for a month if you could sneak me in some galaxy chocie I'll over look your blasphemioustic comments, I could of course make it myself but well there is a patent on it and I'm in hte middle of a legal battle with Galaxy)

Irrelevant as this is to the discussion of a spiritual being's gender, I must chip in...

God created Satan. Satan is the Source of All Evil. God is the Source of the Source of All Evil?

Anyway, if Satan became arrogant and evil, it was because God Created Satan in that way, predisposed to arrogance and evil. Therefore, God is responsible for Satan's fall, and hence Man's fall. It can only follow that God has sinned by leading all of Mankind into sin (since tempting another person into sin is a sin). God cannot sin. Therefore, God either did not create Satan, God does not exist, or God is not all-good.

Or, we could just stop trying to act all high-and-mighty about our vast wisdom of the universe, and play some NationStates.


God created Satan as an angel, but He gave him a free will. Satan chose to do what he did, God didnt force him to.
And if you think that free will is sin, then you must be some kind of Commie... :P

Besides, God isnt at fault for things his creation did. If your son snapped and commited murder, surely you wouldnt be to blame.

I didn't bother to read the posts, so I don't know if someones said this already, but in English it is a refrence to something lesser than a human (an object or an animal) so it would not be appropriate for those who belive in God to call God it, in the case of a singular gender-neutral reference to a person, he is the proper term. So for those who believe in a singular God it should be he, those who don't it, and those who believe in many gods or a many incarnations of a single god should use the pronouns according to the gender ascribed to each one.

also, when considering the primarily masculine terms of refernce to God in Abrahamic faiths remember,
Isreal(ancient)=Patriarchal

God created Satan as an angel, but He gave him a free will. Satan chose to do what he did, God didnt force him to.
And if you think that free will is sin, then you must be some kind of Commie... :P

Besides, God isnt at fault for things his creation did. If your son snapped and commited murder, surely you wouldnt be to blame.

If I had complete control over the make-up of my son and a knowledge of every choice and action he would make in the future, yeah, I would be.

He, Him, The Father... why is god (specifically the Abrahamic god) considered to be a male? If god does not have a physical form, how can it have a gender? If god does have a physical form, why would it have genitals? God is asexual.

Is this just the bias of the times reflected in writing that has never been corrected, or is god's junk an essential part of the Abrahamic religions?


DISCLAIMER: THIS IS ASSUMING THAT THERE IS A GOD.

*anticipates mandatory "because there is no god. +1." responses despite disclaimer*

Well the English language generally (if something doesnt have a gender) goes to a default setting of male.

If I had complete control over the make-up of my son and a knowledge of every choice and action he would make in the future, yeah, I would be.

If God had active control, it wouldnt be free will. God knew what he was going to do, but that doesnt mean he controled what satan did.