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Ken Lay is dead.

Montacanos
05-07-2006, 22:58
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/07/05/D8ILTJL00.html

He had a heart attack. I not sure whaty to think about it. The man disgusted me, if this is anything, it at least resembles justice.
Farnhamia
05-07-2006, 23:00
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/07/05/D8ILTJL00.html

He had a heart attack. I not sure whaty to think about it. The man disgusted me, if this is anything, it at least resembles justice.
Except I did want him to languish behind bars, even if only for a little while.
Montacanos
05-07-2006, 23:03
I can second that. He destroyed so many peoples lives. However, If I'd known he was going to die I wouldve expected him to die in a drive-by shooting.
Francis Street
05-07-2006, 23:03
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/07/05/D8ILTJL00.html

He had a heart attack. I not sure whaty to think about it. The man disgusted me, if this is anything, it at least resembles justice.
Perhaps this is a punisment from God, but personally I wouldn't say that this was a death penalty case.
Dorstfeld
05-07-2006, 23:05
Let me put it this way:

I sure ain't sheddin' no tears.
Neo Undelia
05-07-2006, 23:09
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/07/05/D8ILTJL00.html

He had a heart attack. I not sure whaty to think about it. The man disgusted me, if this is anything, it at least resembles justice.
Death is never justice.
---Russia----
05-07-2006, 23:19
Let me put it this way:

I sure ain't sheddin' no tears.


I dont think he cares.
Iztatepopotla
05-07-2006, 23:20
I tell you, he's faking it.
N Y C
05-07-2006, 23:21
Well, I must say I'm suprised! Who knew he had a heart to die of an attack from?
Insert Quip Here
05-07-2006, 23:23
Well, I must say I'm suprised! Who knew he had a heart to die of an attack from?
Hey, that was my line ;) Good one!
The Eastern Hemisphere
05-07-2006, 23:26
Shame he won't be able to experience the wilder sides of American prisons.
Intangelon
05-07-2006, 23:38
Well, he should have been made to face life with looming debts and no job security while being given conjugal visits from Bubba in the cell down the block, but dead is good, too.
Empress_Suiko
05-07-2006, 23:40
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/07/05/D8ILTJL00.html

He had a heart attack. I not sure whaty to think about it. The man disgusted me, if this is anything, it at least resembles justice.


What? You could atleast fake a bit of mercy. He didn't do anything to deserve death and the people who cheer this are ten times worse then him. Shameful!
Empress_Suiko
05-07-2006, 23:41
Well, he should have been made to face life with looming debts and no job security while being given conjugal visits from Bubba in the cell down the block, but dead is good, too.




I think I am gonna be sick. He didn't deserve to die.
Sarzonia
05-07-2006, 23:41
The first thought to cross my mind was, "well, that's one way to get out of a prison sentence."

I guess David Crosby won't get his wish, expressed so eloquently in "They Want It All": "These people that they stole from/Whose lives they laid to waste/They should have to meet 'em all face to face/And explain just why their mommas didn't teach 'em not to steal..."
Katganistan
05-07-2006, 23:50
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/07/05/D8ILTJL00.html

He had a heart attack. I not sure whaty to think about it. The man disgusted me, if this is anything, it at least resembles justice.


No, it resembles cardiac arrest.
Conscience and Truth
05-07-2006, 23:50
Most people on this Forum will likely agree with me, in that Ken Lay, and most other corporate CEO's, should be in jail, and that people that are currently in jail for "ordinary" crimes, which are really caused by society, poverty, and corporate greed, should be released.

Should we re-examine who we jail in this society? Is it really moral to jail theives who are only stealing to provide for their family, like in the case of Hurricane Katrina, when greedy entreprenuers, who make profits off the backs of the poor, are left free to exploit?
Keruvalia
05-07-2006, 23:53
Ken Lay's zombie will be declared the winner of the Mexican Presidential election recount.
Intangelon
05-07-2006, 23:54
I think I am gonna be sick. He didn't deserve to die.
That's your opinion. I happen to think he did. Watch or read the movie or book ENRON: The Smartest Guys in the Room and you'll learn that Kenny Boy had about as much concern for the average human being as the average human being does for a gnat. I know you've got that whole Shinto/Zen "all life is precious" thing going on, but when you treat people like Ken Lay treated his own employees and the people whom he deprived of energy in order to make illegal gains, you deserve what fate hands you. In this case, fate handed Kenny an MI.
Empress_Suiko
05-07-2006, 23:55
Ken Lay's zombie will be declared the winner of the Mexican Presidential election recount.



Then he stole all their money and fled to Madrid.
Empress_Suiko
05-07-2006, 23:56
That's your opinion. I happen to think he did. Watch or read the movie or book ENRON: The Smartest Guys in the Room and you'll learn that Kenny Boy had about as much concern for the average human being as the average human being does for a gnat. I know you've got that whole Shinto/Zen "all life is precious" thing going on, but when you treat people like Ken Lay treated his own employees and the people whom he deprived of energy in order to make illegal gains, you deserve what fate hands you. In this case, fate handed Kenny an MI.



Its a fact, he did some bad things but nothing making death a valid punishment. Only Child Rape, Murder and torture justify death.
Conscience and Truth
05-07-2006, 23:57
Ken Lay's zombie will be declared the winner of the Mexican Presidential election recount.

I heard that the Mexican election was stolen by corporations. I hate the world, I wish we could all just live in perfect equality and not have to worry about finances anymore. This would allow each person to do what they want to, which the whole point of the American Revolution.
Kherberusovichnya
06-07-2006, 00:04
What? You could atleast fake a bit of mercy. He didn't do anything to deserve death and the people who cheer this are ten times worse then him. Shameful!

Fake mercy? Why?

I didn't want him dead. I wanted him forced for the rest of his life to make money back for the American people, with no benefit to him, or credit given to him. His death is an escape from that.

I feel sorry for any family he's got. A wretched thieving bastard.... but someone's son, someone's kid. And regardless of what he was like to the outside world, to his parent(s?) he had something good, something worth remembering. Even if it was back when he was very, very young. Now their earthly link to that memory is gone.

But I'm not going to "fake mercy". What does that even mean?

People hate him because he annhiliated the quality of life of many, many people, people that he never met, simply because he thought he could get away with it. My dad went and saw The Smartest Guys In the Room. He and those who worked on his scheme with him absolutely typified the idea of "overwhelming arrogance".

Much like with Michael Milken (who never really had to suffer, nor ever showed any particular remorse either, for his part in the S&L scandals of the 80's), some of the people that were defrauded in this scheme are going to be poor. Not "set back", but poor. Losing the money they lost doesn't necessarily set them at some comfortable "starting-over point", it puts them into a financial dead zone.

If this seems overly vicious to you, try to remember, it's not "just money". At the scale these guys worked, the damage is enormous. [I]Lives are ruined.[/I ]

During his trial, he acted as if it was all perfectly fine, and that if Joe Anybody Investor was stupid enough to believe him, they deserved to be defrauded. He actually defended his his massive buying sprees with defrauded investors' money, as though his deception had "earned" him the money legitimately.

"Malignant self-regard". Also known as "malignant narcissism". People with this condition are often close to being sociopathic. We're not worse off for his exit.
Intangelon
06-07-2006, 00:09
Its a fact, he did some bad things but nothing making death a valid punishment. Only Child Rape, Murder and torture justify death.
Well, I'm glad you have your priorities in order, and good for you.

I'm glad he's dead, so there it is.
Desperate Measures
06-07-2006, 00:14
Ken Lay's zombie will be declared the winner of the Mexican Presidential election recount.
Ken Lay is dead. Long live Ken Lay!
Unrestrained Merrymaki
06-07-2006, 01:37
Is it too late to ass fuck him with a nutmeg grater?
Vetalia
06-07-2006, 01:38
And that's how we learned our lesson.
Pacitalia
06-07-2006, 01:47
Is it too late to ass fuck him with a nutmeg grater?

It's never too late for that. :)

I think he took a couple of pills cos he was too selfish to go to jail. That's my opinion on the subject.
Empress_Suiko
06-07-2006, 01:49
Well, I'm glad you have your priorities in order, and good for you.

I'm glad he's dead, so there it is.



then I feel sorry for you. I don't celebrate the death of people who did not deserve it.
The Black Forrest
06-07-2006, 01:55
I think I am gonna be sick. He didn't deserve to die.

For the amount of people that got fucked over by his actions, he got off rather lightly.
The Black Forrest
06-07-2006, 01:55
And that's how we learned our lesson.

What lesson was that?

Do you think Sorbaines/Oxely would have prevented what he did?
Empress_Suiko
06-07-2006, 02:02
For the amount of people that got fucked over by his actions, he got off rather lightly.



:rolleyes:
Gauthier
06-07-2006, 02:07
Right now Kenny Boy is being introduced to the rest of the Escaped Justice the Hard Way Club in Hell by Slobodan Milosevic, and being put in his membership seat... next to the empty one reserved for O.J. Simpson.
Neo Undelia
06-07-2006, 02:09
Right now Kenny Boy is being introduced to the rest of the Escaped Justice the Hard Way Club in Hell by Slobodan Milosevic, and being put in his membership seat... next to the empty one reserved for O.J. Simpson.
No.
Actually his consciousness has ceased to exist and these insults are childish.
Empress_Suiko
06-07-2006, 02:09
Right now Kenny Boy is being introduced to the rest of the Escaped Justice the Hard Way Club in Hell by Slobodan Milosevic, and being put in his membership seat... next to the empty one reserved for O.J. Simpson.



There is no such thing as hell.
Iztatepopotla
06-07-2006, 02:16
What? You could atleast fake a bit of mercy. He didn't do anything to deserve death and the people who cheer this are ten times worse then him. Shameful!
What do you mean "he didn't do anything to deserve death"? People just die, no matter what they do.
SpringMeadow
06-07-2006, 02:20
My question is--now who gets all the money he stole?
Iztatepopotla
06-07-2006, 02:22
My question is--now who gets all the money he stole?
He left it all to a SeƱor Kenito Leygardo, of Paraguay ;)
Empress_Suiko
06-07-2006, 02:22
What do you mean "he didn't do anything to deserve death"? People just die, no matter what they do.


Are you kidding me? He didn't deserve to die...What else could that mean? Just like Regan and Mother Teresa DIDN'T Deserve to die.
Iztatepopotla
06-07-2006, 02:24
Are you kidding me? He didn't deserve to die...What else could that mean? Just like Regan and Mother Teresa DIDN'T Deserve to die.
And I tell you people just die, it happens to all of them. All humans die just because that's what they do. You know, mortals?
Empress_Suiko
06-07-2006, 02:25
And I tell you people just die, it happens to all of them. All humans die just because that's what they do. You know, mortals?



*smack*


Just because they die doesn't mean they deserve to.
Kinda Sensible people
06-07-2006, 02:26
Are you kidding me? He didn't deserve to die...What else could that mean? Just like Regan and Mother Teresa DIDN'T Deserve to die.

I find it amusing that a man who wrecked thousands of lives and probably drove people to suicide because of the money he scammed them out of deserves a lighter punishment than someone who killed one person or raped one person in your mind.

I'm not saying any of them are good things to do, and I don't want any of them killed (I beleive in a thing called forgiveness and re-formation), but I think that it's Ironic that if I Beat someone near to death in the street I would get a harsher punishment than if I conned 20 people out of their life savings.
SpringMeadow
06-07-2006, 02:27
And I tell you people just die, it happens to all of them. All humans die just because that's what they do. You know, mortals?

WHAT??? I'm gonna DIE?????

Does anyone wonder if somehow he faked his own death and is now on his way to some tropical island to enjoy the fruits of his nefarious schemes?

(I just love a good conspiracy theory)
Iztatepopotla
06-07-2006, 02:29
*smack*

*deftly dodges smack, that's right, I ain't a gentleman*

Just because they die doesn't mean they deserve to.
There really no such thing as "deserve to die." You're human, your faith is to die, whether you want it or not. What you mean to say is that he didn't deserve to be killed or put to death, but since that didn't happened and just died like any other human, then it's irrelevant.

And, besides, he's just faking it. :)
Empress_Suiko
06-07-2006, 02:30
I find it amusing that a man who wrecked thousands of lives and probably drove people to suicide because of the money he scammed them out of deserves a lighter punishment than someone who killed one person or raped one person in your mind.

I'm not saying any of them are good things to do, and I don't want any of them killed (I beleive in a thing called forgiveness and re-formation), but I think that it's Ironic that if I Beat someone near to death in the street I would get a harsher punishment than if I conned 20 people out of their life savings.



Money can be returned and replaced, your life can't.
TeHe
06-07-2006, 02:31
I heard that the Mexican election was stolen by corporations. I hate the world, I wish we could all just live in perfect equality and not have to worry about finances anymore. This would allow each person to do what they want to, which the whole point of the American Revolution.

No, I'm fairly sure that's the whole point of communism. :p The point of the American revolution was to teach the English that they can't tax us without having to deal with one motherf**king big hissyfit. :)
Iztatepopotla
06-07-2006, 02:32
WHAT??? I'm gonna DIE?????
Unless there are very radical advances in celullar rejuvenation or in transferring your thoughts to a computer during your lifetime, yes.

(By the way, the above looks increasingly likely, but I wouldn't bet on it just yet).

Does anyone wonder if somehow he faked his own death and is now on his way to some tropical island to enjoy the fruits of his nefarious schemes?

(I just love a good conspiracy theory)
That's what I've been saying!
Kinda Sensible people
06-07-2006, 02:32
Money can be returned and replaced, your life can't.

So a 60 year-old man who loses most of his money because he had invested it in what he thought was a safe venture (because of lies told by it's CEO) that went belly up can just make back his 40 years of retirement savings? Why don't you go tell that to the people who lost all their money then. They might even wait to laugh at you until you left.
Empress_Suiko
06-07-2006, 02:35
So a 60 year-old man who loses most of his money because he had invested it in what he thought was a safe venture (because of lies told by it's CEO) that went belly up can just make back his 40 years of retirement savings? Why don't you go tell that to the people who lost all their money then. They might even wait to laugh at you until you left.



:rolleyes:


A lawsuit and the government can then aid them in getting th money back. They wouldn't laugh at me but laugh at you instead, because they are trying to get their money back via lawsuits.
Kinda Sensible people
06-07-2006, 02:36
:rolleyes:


A lawsuit and the government can then aid them in getting th money back. They wouldn't laugh at me but laugh at you instead, because they are trying to get their money back via lawsuits.

Where would they get it back from? Enron? There's kind of a lack of money for it to return. Enron went BANKRUPT. It had no money to return. There is no way for the money to be made back.
TeHe
06-07-2006, 02:38
Where would they get it back from? Enron? There's kind of a lack of money for it to return. Enron went BANKRUPT. It had no money to return. There is no way for the money to be made back.

Government handouts.
Kinda Sensible people
06-07-2006, 02:42
Government handouts.

You mean like these people:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron

Pensions

Thousands of Enron employees and investors lost their life savings, children's college funds, and pensions when Enron collapsed. A lawsuit on the behalf of a group of Enron's shareholders has been filed against Enron executives and directors. This lawsuit accuses twenty-nine of these executives and directors of insider trading and misleading the public.

Because the 401(k) plan is a defined contribution plan, there was no PBGC insurance and employees lost the money they invested in Enron stock. They could only sue those considered a fiduciary for breach of their duty of care based on ERISA Section 404.
Unrestrained Merrymaki
06-07-2006, 02:42
:rolleyes:


A lawsuit and the government can then aid them in getting th money back. They wouldn't laugh at me but laugh at you instead, because they are trying to get their money back via lawsuits.

That's pretty naive....
TeHe
06-07-2006, 02:44
You mean like these people:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron

I stand corrected.
SpringMeadow
06-07-2006, 03:02
That's what I've been saying!

(about faking his own death)--Sorry I missed that post the first time around. Does anyone REALLY think Lay faked his won death--It would make a great novel. And you know what they say about Truth being stranger than fiction....
The Black Forrest
06-07-2006, 03:12
:rolleyes:

Sorry hun,

Respect is something earned.

The fact he died doesn't earn him the right to have it.
Thriceaddict
06-07-2006, 03:16
Sorry hun,

Respect is something earned.

The fact he died doesn't earn him the right to have it.
Yeah, that's what I never get. Some horrible bastard dies and suddenly, because he's dead, everyone is praising him.
Xadelaide
06-07-2006, 03:16
"There is no such thing as hell."

Oh, there most definitely is. If not, then how would bad people receive any just punishment?

BTW, Ken Lay's definitely going to hell. Level Nine. To chill (literally) with (S)Hitler and Milosevic and Stalin and Mussolini and the evil guy downstairs.

Ken Lay = teh boned.
Empress_Suiko
06-07-2006, 03:52
"There is no such thing as hell."

Oh, there most definitely is. If not, then how would bad people receive any just punishment?

BTW, Ken Lay's definitely going to hell. Level Nine. To chill (literally) with (S)Hitler and Milosevic and Stalin and Mussolini and the evil guy downstairs.

Ken Lay = teh boned.



Hell is a myth and as far as I have read hell doesn't go based on levels. And who decides who goes there and who doesnt?


hell = complete myth
DHomme
06-07-2006, 03:53
http://lespyrrho.hautetfort.com/images/medium_champagne_pop.jpg
Empress_Suiko
06-07-2006, 03:53
Sorry hun,

Respect is something earned.

The fact he died doesn't earn him the right to have it.


Don't ever talk down to me again.


I show respect to the fallen and refuse to mock those who have died, more so when they have done nothing to deserve death.

Sorry sugar but you are dead wrong.
Empress_Suiko
06-07-2006, 03:54
http://lespyrrho.hautetfort.com/images/medium_champagne_pop.jpg



You make me sick.
Empress_Suiko
06-07-2006, 03:56
That's pretty naive....



Naive is thinking the government shouldn't help them get back lost money due to fraud. Other companies do that you know.
DHomme
06-07-2006, 03:56
You make me sick.

I know it's a cheap bottle but the good stuff's reserved for Sharon and Thatcher.
Empress_Suiko
06-07-2006, 03:57
I know it's a cheap bottle but the good stuff's reserved for Sharon and Thatcher.



Vile, just vile. Since when did death become a reason to party?
DHomme
06-07-2006, 03:58
Vile, just vile. Since when did death become a reason to party?

The death of an evil human being who serves their own selfish agenda without regard to other people is always a reason to party.
Thriceaddict
06-07-2006, 03:59
http://lespyrrho.hautetfort.com/images/medium_champagne_pop.jpg
:D :D :D :D :D

Good one!
Iztatepopotla
06-07-2006, 03:59
Vile, just vile. Since when did death become a reason to party?
Since the Aztecs. :D
Vetalia
06-07-2006, 04:03
What lesson was that?

It's a Futurama reference. Bender fucks up royally by crashing the ship through the wall and tries to get out of being fired by saying "and that's how we learned our lesson" as if it made the situation disappear. I guess it's appropriate to the situation somehow...

Do you think Sorbaines/Oxely would have prevented what he did?

No...one of the few things Sarbox does is make it harder for small companies to go public, making our country a less attractive place to invest in startups and lowering interest in American stock markets.

It's great for the accounting industry, but needs reform to make it more effective and less expensive.
Empress_Suiko
06-07-2006, 04:04
You people are tacky and make me sick! I bet you people would not want people dancing when you die. Hell has a place for all those who mock the dead.
Liberated Provinces
06-07-2006, 04:05
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/07/05/D8ILTJL00.html

He had a heart attack. I not sure whaty to think about it. The man disgusted me, if this is anything, it at least resembles justice.

How dare you! The public humiliation and complete loss of dignity was punishment enough. Declaring his death justice after he's been living through Hell for the last year is cruel, to say the least. You're no better than him.

*The fact that I'm from Houston might have biased this post.*
Thriceaddict
06-07-2006, 04:06
You people are tacky and make me sick! I bet you people would not want people dancing when you die. Hell has a place for all those who mock the dead.
1 What do I care? I'll be dead.
2 I thought you just said hell doesn't exist?
The Black Forrest
06-07-2006, 04:08
I know it's a cheap bottle but the good stuff's reserved for Sharon and Thatcher.

:D That was funny!
Iztatepopotla
06-07-2006, 04:10
You people are tacky and make me sick! I bet you people would not want people dancing when you die. Hell has a place for all those who mock the dead.
A few posts ago you said there's no hell. Which is it? :confused:

What do I care if people dance on my grave? I'd be dead and rotting. If I could join them that'd be something else.
The Black Forrest
06-07-2006, 04:10
It's a Futurama reference. Bender fucks up royally by crashing the ship through the wall and tries to get out of being fired by saying "and that's how we learned our lesson" as if it made the situation disappear. I guess it's appropriate to the situation somehow...


GAH!

I deserve to do this :headbang: for missing the reference!
Liberated Provinces
06-07-2006, 04:10
You people are tacky and make me sick! I bet you people would not want people dancing when you die. Hell has a place for all those who mock the dead.

Way to go Suiko! It's good to see that not all the decent people have died off yet.
The Black Forrest
06-07-2006, 04:22
Don't ever talk down to me again.


Hey! At your height I can't help it!


I show respect to the fallen and refuse to mock those who have died, more so when they have done nothing to deserve death.

Sorry sugar but you are dead wrong.

Nope sweety! A bastard in life doesn't deserve to be honored.
The Black Forrest
06-07-2006, 04:24
You people are tacky and make me sick! I bet you people would not want people dancing when you die. Hell has a place for all those who mock the dead.

What's wrong when with drinking and dancing?

If I can throw one more party with my death, so be it!

I want a wake when I go! :D
Lt_Cody
06-07-2006, 04:32
Lay is probably laughing at us this very instant from his secret island resort now that his clone is dead.

*re-adjusts tinfoil hat*
Sdaeriji
06-07-2006, 04:38
Lay deserves no more respect now that he's dead than he did while he was alive and cheating thousands out of every dime he possibly could. I don't celebrate that he's dead, but I certainly don't need to show him mercy or anything absurd like that. This world is a far better place with one less evil man like him in it.
The American Privateer
06-07-2006, 04:40
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/07/05/D8ILTJL00.html

He had a heart attack. I not sure whaty to think about it. The man disgusted me, if this is anything, it at least resembles justice.

Kira has arrived to dispense judgemen upon us. If your name and face appear on the internat or on TV in connection with a crime, a reaaaal crime. He shall write you name in his Death Note and ye shall drop dead a minute later from a heart attack.

OOC: Sorry, been readung to much Death Note recently, great manga by the way
Thriceaddict
06-07-2006, 04:41
Lay deserves no more respect now that he's dead than he did while he was alive and cheating thousands out of every dime he possibly could. I don't celebrate that he's dead, but I certainly don't need to show him mercy or anything absurd like that. This world is a far better place with one less evil man like him in it.
I wouldn't say far better, but at least a little.
Dobbsworld
06-07-2006, 04:43
Oh no, and his potato chips were so tasty...
Secret aj man
06-07-2006, 04:43
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/07/05/D8ILTJL00.html

He had a heart attack. I not sure whaty to think about it. The man disgusted me, if this is anything, it at least resembles justice.

that disgusting excuse for a human should have been torn to pieces by wolves.

that pos robbed old ladies so he could have 10,000.00 bath tub accessories.

what a scumbag...and i know he has family and kids...that he loved...well he should have been less greedy and not such a whore.
then daddy would not be paying the piper now...he got off easy if you ask me..fucking scumbag.

if it was up to me...i shudder to think of the evil i would be capable of..for someonr that robbed thousands of their lifes savings..so he could have million dollar parties.
what a piece of shit...he got off easy.

i dont have a problem with rich people..trying to be rich myself....but to do what he did,fuck him..he should be drawn and quartered.

sucks for his kids....what a legacy he left..lol...i want to punch him in the face just for that.

fuckin devil.
CthulhuFhtagn
06-07-2006, 04:49
You people are tacky and make me sick! I bet you people would not want people dancing when you die. Hell has a place for all those who mock the dead.
1. My funeral is going to be playing the most upbeat music around. If people aren't dancing, I'm going to have my corpse wired up so that it climbs out of the casket and yells, "FUCKING DANCE!"
2. You just said there is no hell.
The American Privateer
06-07-2006, 04:54
1. My funeral is going to be playing the most upbeat music around. If people aren't dancing, I'm going to have my corpse wired up so that it climbs out of the casket and yells, "FUCKING DANCE!"
2. You just said there is no hell.

I want an Irish wake, and I also want my body launched, whole, into space, with the Bluegrass tune "I'll Fly Away" playing. it would be totally apropriate.
Empress_Suiko
06-07-2006, 04:57
1. My funeral is going to be playing the most upbeat music around. If people aren't dancing, I'm going to have my corpse wired up so that it climbs out of the casket and yells, "FUCKING DANCE!"
2. You just said there is no hell.


if you want people to have a party to honor you that is one thing, but to celebrate because someone died because you are happy they are dead is another thing.


Its a figure of speech.
The Black Forrest
06-07-2006, 04:58
Way to go Suiko! It's good to see that not all the decent people have died off yet.

So how many mentally retarded people have been executed in Texas this year?
Empress_Suiko
06-07-2006, 04:59
So how many mentally retarded people have been executed in Texas this year?



WTF?
The Black Forrest
06-07-2006, 05:02
WTF?

His location says Houston Texas.

Texas executes mentally retarded people. Highest in the nation in fact.

http://www2.bc.edu/~sydnor/2.html
CthulhuFhtagn
06-07-2006, 05:04
if you want people to have a party to honor you that is one thing, but to celebrate because someone died because you are happy they are dead is another thing.

"Honor me"? You don't know me very well.
Empress_Suiko
06-07-2006, 05:05
His location says Houston Texas.

Texas executes mentally retarded people. Highest in the nation in fact.

http://www2.bc.edu/~sydnor/2.html


Whats your point and how does this pertain to this thread?
The Black Forrest
06-07-2006, 05:06
Whats your point and how does this pertain to this thread?

Welllll

If you have to explain it, then then it's a bad joke.
The Black Forrest
06-07-2006, 05:06
"Honor me"? You don't know me very well.

Depends? Will you have food?
Empress_Suiko
06-07-2006, 05:07
Welllll

If you have to explain it, then then it's a bad joke.



So in other words you have no idea?
A Lynx Bus
06-07-2006, 05:10
This thread is damn scary.
Empress_Suiko
06-07-2006, 05:14
This thread is damn scary.



WOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Non Aligned States
06-07-2006, 05:16
Money can be returned and replaced, your life can't.

If I ruin you financially to the point of destitution, you WILL lose your life by the simple fact that sustaining it no longer becomes feasible. If direct murder is the only validation for deserving death, Stalin, who as far as I know didn't directly kill the people in his gulags, and starved the people of Ukraine to death via deliberate famine, didn't deserve death either. He only took away the things they needed to survive.
Empress_Suiko
06-07-2006, 05:18
If I ruin you financially to the point of destitution, you WILL lose your life by the simple fact that sustaining it no longer becomes feasible. If direct murder is the only validation for deserving death, Stalin, who as far as I know didn't directly kill the people in his gulags, and starved the people of Ukraine to death via deliberate famine, didn't deserve death either. He only took away the things they needed to survive.



Stalin tortured people. The government can and should help people get their money back, they can't breathe life into you.
CthulhuFhtagn
06-07-2006, 05:21
Depends? Will you have food?
Well, I'll have something that tastes like pork...
Dobbsworld
06-07-2006, 05:26
Well, I'll have something that tastes like pork...
Pork-flavoured Lay chips?
Montacanos
06-07-2006, 05:29
Some of you really need to stop putting words in my mouth. I didnt say I wanted him to die, I didnt even say I thought he deserved to die. However, he is dead regardless and unless he really did fake it, it's going to stay that way. I dont think its faked, Hes not that rich.

This man destroyed the lives of thousands, not just with the destruction of so many livelihoods but also for his business conduct during emergency crises. Thousands die everyday, and this man was no different.

I will not mourn him, I will not shed a single tear for this DISGUSTING, VILE, MONSTER. I seriously dont know what philosophical context people fall under when they say "You are just as bad as him for not regretting his passing." That is nonsense. Nonsense that defies the history of civilization and the institution of survival. No culture in the world treats death the way you are.
Non Aligned States
06-07-2006, 05:34
Don't ever talk down to me again.

Yes sweety, we won't talk down to you. And you know why? This is why.


Hell is a myth and as far as I have read hell doesn't go based on levels. And who decides who goes there and who doesnt?


hell = complete myth

And then, 1 page later.

Hell has a place for all those who mock the dead.

Silly Suiko.
Empress_Suiko
06-07-2006, 05:37
Yes sweety, we won't talk down to you. And you know why? This is why.



And then, 1 page later.



Silly Suiko.

Maybe you missed the part where I said it was a figure of speech. Now knock off the flamebaiting.
A Lynx Bus
06-07-2006, 05:39
Well, I'll have something that tastes like pork...pork is wicked gross
Non Aligned States
06-07-2006, 05:42
Stalin tortured people.

Not personally, no. Like Saddam, proving he physically did the deed is tricky. He had his flunkies do it from them.


The government can and should help people get their money back, they can't breathe life into you.

Except the government can't magic money out of thin air. All that money was taken by the Enron execs and squandered away. So what do you propose then eh? Rob Peter to pay Paul? So what can they do then? In short, not much. The government and the taxpayers can't, and shouldn't, be made to pay for the crimes of others. And when the crimes of others are this bad to the point of utter ruin, the only thing left is to see that justice gets served.

Even if it takes death to do it.
Non Aligned States
06-07-2006, 05:44
Maybe you missed the part where I said it was a figure of speech. Now knock off the flamebaiting.

If calling someone sweety or silly is flamebaiting, I do believe you are simply too sensitive. But please, if you feel offended, call the mods. It would be interesting at least.
Empress_Suiko
06-07-2006, 05:45
If calling someone sweety or silly is flamebaiting, I do believe you are simply too sensitive. But please, if you feel offended, call the mods. It would be interesting at least.


I don't run to mommy and daddy over everything. I would rather just ignore you.
The Black Forrest
06-07-2006, 05:46
So in other words you have no idea?

Who are we talking about?
Empress_Suiko
06-07-2006, 05:47
Who are we talking about?


Nevermind.
A Lynx Bus
06-07-2006, 05:48
If calling someone sweety or silly is flamebaiting, I do believe you are simply too sensitive. But please, if you feel offended, call the mods. It would be interesting at least.
Well, it usually is quite condescending when someone says that.
The Black Forrest
06-07-2006, 05:52
Well, it usually is quite condescending when someone says that.

But what if it's done with a smile?
A Lynx Bus
06-07-2006, 05:56
But what if it's done with a smile?
I guess it depends on what kind of smile it is. :) = one smug bastard
Non Aligned States
06-07-2006, 06:04
I don't run to mommy and daddy over everything. I would rather just ignore you.

Of course at the same time, you ignore a valid rebuttal to your argument.
Empress_Suiko
06-07-2006, 06:10
Of course at the same time, you ignore a valid rebuttal to your argument.



Valid? HA!


Anyway, this is going nowhere.
Non Aligned States
06-07-2006, 06:48
Valid? HA!


Anyway, this is going nowhere.

Certainly. It goes nowhere when the other party refuses to rebut the argument, choosing instead to use pithy commentary and other shortcuts as if that would invalidate the opposing debater. It is a common tactic among NS General, but contributes nothing of substance.
The Black Forrest
06-07-2006, 08:39
Valid? HA!

Anyway, this is going nowhere.

Hey we were just following you!
Soviet Haaregrad
06-07-2006, 11:05
What? You could atleast fake a bit of mercy. He didn't do anything to deserve death and the people who cheer this are ten times worse then him. Shameful!

He ruined thousands of lives, if you looking for good reasons to cap someone, that's on my top 10 list.

Ken Lay --> x.x :mp5: <-- me.