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last night while waiting for the fireworks to start I have the following conversation with my 5 year old

Her:"do you want me to be rich?"
Me: "I want you to be happy, but if you want to be rich, I will support that"
H: "okay, I will get rich"
M:"how are you going to get rich?"
H: "I am going to get a lot of money":rolleyes: (yeah, she rolled her eyes)
M: "how are you going to get a lot of money?"
H: "people will give me thier money?"
M: "why would people give you thier money?"
H: "I will ask, and they will give me a little"
M: "but how is that going to make you rich?"
H: "I will ask a lot of people, if 1 million people give me $5 then I will be rich"

:eek:

I then tried to explain to her that I thought it was a better idea to go get a job, and earn money to get rich, to which she replied "but dad and you both have jobs and we aren't rich yet"

I decided to drop it and change the conversation, but today she wakes up and says

Her: "maybe I could sell something and make money?"
Me: "what?"
Her: "a secret"

and she has been in her room for 2 hours taking apart electronics and comes out every so often to ask me questions like

"do you think someone would pay me for something if it didn't work but I told them that if they could make it work they could be rich?"

:D

so......I don't know what to do with her. Her younger sister tells me she is trying to annoy me with this, and that actually does make sense since we had a long discussion about capitalism and socialism a few days back, which by the end of the 4 hour conversation my bias was known........now, how do I annoy her back?

steal all the money she's made....

:p

last night while waiting for the fireworks to start I have the following conversation with my 5 year old

Her:"do you want me to be rich?"
Me: "I want you to be happy, but if you want to be rich, I will support that"
H: "okay, I will get rich"
M:"how are you going to get rich?"
H: "I am going to get a lot of money":rolleyes: (yeah, she rolled her eyes)
M: "how are you going to get a lot of money?"
H: "people will give me thier money?"
M: "why would people give you thier money?"
H: "I will ask, and they will give me a little"
M: "but how is that going to make you rich?"
H: "I will ask a lot of people, if 1 million people give me $5 then I will be rich"

:eek:

I then tried to explain to her that I thought it was a better idea to go get a job, and earn money to get rich, to which she replied "but dad and you both have jobs and we aren't rich yet"

I decided to drop it and change the conversation, but today she wakes up and says

Her: "maybe I could sell something and make money?"
Me: "what?"
Her: "a secret"

and she has been in her room for 2 hours taking apart electronics and comes out every so often to ask me questions like

"do you think someone would pay me for something if it didn't work but I told them that if they could make it work they could be rich?"

:D

so......I don't know what to do with her. Her younger sister tells me she is trying to annoy me with this, and that actually does make sense since we had a long discussion about capitalism and socialism a few days back, which by the end of the 4 hour conversation my bias was known........now, how do I annoy her back?

Let her catch you posting a query on Nationstates about how much one should ask for a five year old girl, pound-for-pound, ready to eat...

How old is she, Smunkee?

I'm sure she'll eventually share some of that wealth with you.

Or take her to england (if you're not their already) and let her get some benefits, then tell the authorities she's been illegally claiming and the newspapers will claim it's a national scandal!

:p

how do I annoy her back?

Tell her you are going to give all your worldly goods to charity and join a commune. Then make a trip to donate some stuff to Goodwill or the Salvation Army.

How old is she, Smunkee?
she will actually be 5 in about 2 weeks, but she has decided for all intents and purposes that she is actually 5 now, and I got tired of fighting her on it.

she's a good electrician for a five year old.

Make her pay rent, seeing as though she's going to be 'sooo rich' soon.

she's a good electrician for a five year old.
she is good at a lot of things. :) most of them scare the hell out of me though. :(

If you let her be 5 now she will be 6 before Christmas. Worse still the mini capitalist will expect birthday presents each time she gets older.

she will actually be 5 in about 2 weeks, but she has decided for all intents and purposes that she is actually 5 now, and I got tired of fighting her on it.

My daughter did the same thing. She felt 'fiver' than just plain old four...

Strange creatures, aren't they.

H: "I will ask a lot of people, if 1 million people give me $5 then I will be rich"


Tell her it works better if she threatens to kill and eat her pet rabbit if people do not fork over the cash.

Hey - it saved Toby ;)

steal all the money she's made....
as her parent, you do own her soul after all (and all earthly goods that comes with)

so......I don't know what to do with her. Her younger sister tells me she is trying to annoy me with this, and that actually does make sense since we had a long discussion about capitalism and socialism a few days back, which by the end of the 4 hour conversation my bias was known........now, how do I annoy her back?

Which is your position? Anti "lust-for-money"?

If you let her be 5 now she will be 6 before Christmas. Worse still the mini capitalist will expect birthday presents each time she gets older.
I have no problem with her desire to get rich, I have a problem with the plan she came up with. I don't think sitting around begging for money is a very responsible way to make a living.

I think she just knows that I am very 'work' oriented and she is seeing how much of an "easy way out" she can come up with to annoy me.

steal all the money she's made....

and give it someone else after you take a hefty cut to pay for the adminstration of the redistribution of wealth .

Which is your position? Anti "lust-for-money"?
anti-sitting on your ass waiting for a handout :p

she will actually be 5 in about 2 weeks, but she has decided for all intents and purposes that she is actually 5 now, and I got tired of fighting her on it.

Bah, she's only five. Don't worry about it. You've got years to mold her differently.

and give it someone else after you take a hefty cut to pay for the adminstration of the redistribution of wealth .
CEO of Robin Hooding, eh?

Are you sure she's not like, an alien baby? Y'know, no abduction memories from five years ago?

Bah, she's only five. Don't worry about it. You've got years to mold her differently.

Agreed. Lots of kids fashion all kinds of half-baked schemes to get rich, powerful, or superhuman at that age. As I recall, I spent much of my time around five pestering my dad on the best way to mutate myself into a living liquid.

Agreed. Lots of kids fashion all kinds of half-baked schemes to get rich, powerful, or superhuman at that age. As I recall, I spent much of my time around five pestering my dad on the best way to mutate myself into a living liquid.
that's oddly comforting. :)

Agreed. Lots of kids fashion all kinds of half-baked schemes to get rich, powerful, or superhuman at that age. As I recall, I spent much of my time around five pestering my dad on the best way to mutate myself into a living liquid.

well i never. at that age i was like a miniature buddha.. i sure liked my cake....

:D

so......I don't know what to do with her. Her younger sister tells me she is trying to annoy me with this, and that actually does make sense since we had a long discussion about capitalism and socialism a few days back, which by the end of the 4 hour conversation my bias was known........now, how do I annoy her back?
Well, my biases contradict yours, but it's be fun to help you out (but isn't someone asking for money who doesn't have any, a socialist thing? The radio I get but...)
First of all, she is obviously annoying you by villifying capitalists, and acting like one. Well, it's just as easy to over-villify a socialist! Well, maybe you don't need to villify your self, but you still can annoy her. Say, that of course as her parent, it's your duty to see that her money goes to the right place. Say you would make sure ALL of the money she made (or only 90% percent if you're generous:D) needs to go to people who can't find jobs, and such.
I'm sure you can come up with more ideas like this. Keep-up the good work to stop your corporol offspring from turning this world into Jennifer Goverment. ;)

Go show her some hobos and tell her how they had the same game plan as her.

Well, my biases contradict yours, but it's be fun to help you out (but isn't someone asking for money who doesn't have any, a socialist thing? The radio I get but...)
First of all, she is obviously annoying you by villifying capitalists, and acting like one. Well, it's just as easy to over-villify a socialist! Well, maybe you don't need to villify your self, but you still can annoy her. Say, that of course as her parent, it's your duty to see that her money goes to the right place. Say you would make sure ALL of the money she made (or only 90% percent if you're generous:D) needs to go to people who can't find jobs, and such.
I'm sure you can come up with more ideas like this. Keep-up the good work to stop your corporol offspring from turning this world into Jennifer Goverment. ;)
I think I may have confused you, I am a capitalist, I like money, I just don't think it's something that should be handed out for no reason........I am not so bothered about the invention idea, but the defrauding people with it is worrisome.

I have no problem with her desire to get rich, I have a problem with the plan she came up with. I don't think sitting around begging for money is a very responsible way to make a living.

I think she just knows that I am very 'work' oriented and she is seeing how much of an "easy way out" she can come up with to annoy me.

Tell her how long it takes to count to a million. Then tell her how much time elapses between suckers willing to give bums 5 bucks. Then drive to the middle of the largest nearby city and show her beggars on the street and how their lifestyle compares with hers.

Or have her "help" you with some task and pay her for it to start teaching her it's funner and less boring to work than to sit. Also more rewarding.

That probably wont do much to annoy her however. Which was the original question.

that's oddly comforting. :)

I've heard all kinds of half-baked schemes out of my gf's eight-year-old. Been hearing them for years now. They mellow out, though, as they get older.

I think I may have confused you, I am a capitalist, I like money, I just don't think it's something that should be handed out for no reason........I am not so bothered about the invention idea, but the defrauding people with it is worrisome.
Aaaaaah. I see. Still, the plan oughtta work. :)

Threaten to burn her teddy bear if she doesn't listen to you. Or call her a capitalist pig....

Give her the illustrated children's edition of The Communist Manifesto and the Pop-up version of Das Kapital. That should set her straight.

Its simply because your child is an idiot.

anti-sitting on your ass waiting for a handout :p

But - she isn't... she's composing business plans.

And - if you had two business plans in your head, and one of them would take the next thirty years, and the other would take the next thirty minutes... which would you honestly choose?

Assuming both make the same end-product payout, and are equivalent in terms of moral viability?

She is not necessarily looking for a bad thing, when she looks for 'easy' money.

Aaaaaah. I see. Still, the plan oughtta work. :)
yeah, I think so.

:headbang: Well my oldest son at 5 years old told me he would beg for money to pay for lottery tickets :eek: 10 years later he lacks the motavation to go to that much trouble :confused:

Its simply because your child is an idiot.

Could you possibly be more of a prick?

But - she isn't... she's composing business plans.

And - if you had two business plans in your head, and one of them would take the next thirty years, and the other would take the next thirty minutes... which would you honestly choose?

Assuming both make the same end-product payout, and are equivalent in terms of moral viability?

She is not necessarily looking for a bad thing, when she looks for 'easy' money.
true.... have to think on this one.

Although she did just invent something, I am not sure if it's useful.....

I've heard all kinds of half-baked schemes out of my gf's eight-year-old. Been hearing them for years now. They mellow out, though, as they get older.

LOL that reminds me, the next door neighbor kid who is 7 has just informed me that birds fly because they "beat down the gravity with their wings"

I think I may have confused you, I am a capitalist, I like money, I just don't think it's something that should be handed out for no reason........I am not so bothered about the invention idea, but the defrauding people with it is worrisome.

Does she have some favourite food that has a filling of some kind that you make.

Be it apple pie, or jelly donuts or whatever?

If she does, then you make up a batch for her with the wrong filling (mustard, or cranberry sauce or some such). Then see how much she likes being defrauded ;)

true.... have to think on this one.

Although she did just invent something, I am not sure if it's useful.....

Useful is actually irrelevent, if she can get a patent on it, any related design later in life can be claimed as 'derived from' it...

LOL that reminds me, the next door neighbor kid who is 7 has just informed me that birds fly because they "beat down the gravity with their wings"

That's hysterical! :D

true.... have to think on this one.

Although she did just invent something, I am not sure if it's useful.....


CAREFUL!!! She will try to sell it to you by convincing you it'll work if you can just fix it.

keep poking her, that'd sure annoy the heck outta me

What did she invent? I may invest in it (only if £400 will go far)

Tell her quite frankly that nothing comapres to Refused Party Program therefore it matters not whether she ever amounts to anything as it will inevitably be utterly meaningless.

What did she invent? I may invest in it (only if £400 will go far)
you know she hasn't really explained to me what it is yet, she is working on a presentation (I loaned her my dry erase board) I do know she has made some combination of an alarm clock, a personal CD player (that was broke), a phone, and an old pair of computer speakers. It makes A LOT of noise.....but that might be all it does.

I have no problem with her desire to get rich, I have a problem with the plan she came up with. I don't think sitting around begging for money is a very responsible way to make a living.

I think she just knows that I am very 'work' oriented and she is seeing how much of an "easy way out" she can come up with to annoy me.
LMAO! Well, just let her go and see what she comes up with. The worst that can happen is that she will try a couple of things. If people laugh at her, that will deter her. If she finds something that works, you'll all be rich.

Oh ... and don't forget to tell her that, as a minor, you will have to manage all the money she makes. That alone might give her pause for thought. :D

Hmm. Its dosen't make noise it um........contacts spirits..yes thats it spirits. I can see it now. Miss your loved ones? Want to know what their doing? Well wonder no more. With the Spirit Phone you can talk them all the time. Order yours today!!!

shoot your blasted children. :mp5:

Give her the illustrated children's edition of The Communist Manifesto and the Pop-up version of Das Kapital. That should set her straight.
ROFL. (http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/laughoutloud.gif)

shoot your blasted children. :mp5:
no thanks:rolleyes:

You could read to her the story of the ant and the grasshopper.

Hmm. Its dosen't make noise it um........contacts spirits..yes thats it spirits. I can see it now. Miss your loved ones? Want to know what their doing? Well wonder no more. With the Spirit Phone you can talk them all the time. Order yours today!!!

BRILLIANT!!!

She's not even 5 yet--give her a chance to learn and test out ideas before you judge her as being immoral. She's trying to get a grasp of what's going on around her and how she fits in to everything. My son went through a few money phases, but his focus always shifted to other interests. She sounds like a precociously smart kid who will go through ideas and fads a mile a minute while she's growing up--relax and enjoy it!

LOL that reminds me, the next door neighbor kid who is 7 has just informed me that birds fly because they "beat down the gravity with their wings"
! (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/lachen/laughing-smiley-014.gif)

Tell her you live in a facist state that doesn't want her to be rich, therefore if she makes a profit, they will take the profit let her keep nothing.

I don't know..

You could read to her the story of the ant and the grasshopper.

neo con version

The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he's a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others are cold and starving. CBS, NBC, and ABC show up to provide pictures of the shivering grasshopper next to video of the ant in his comfortable home with a table filled with food. America is stunned by the sharp contrast. How can it be that, in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so?

Then a representative of the NAAGB (The National Association for the Advancement of Green Bugs) shows up on Nightline and charges the ant with "green bias", and makes the case that the grasshopper is the victim of 30 million years of greenism. Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper, and everybody cries when he sings "It's Not Easy Being Green." Bill and Hillary Clinton make a special guest appearance on the CBS Evening News to tell a concerned Dan Rather that they will do everything they can for the grasshopper who has been denied the prosperity he deserves by those who benefited unfairly during the Reagan summers, or as Bill refers to it, the "Temperatures of the 80's." Richard Gephardt exclaims in an interview with Peter Jennings that the ant has gotten rich off the back of the grasshopper, and calls for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his "fair share". Finally, the EEOC drafts the "Economic Equity and Anti-greenism Act," retroactive to the beginning of the summer. The ant is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugs and, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the government. Hillary gets her old law firm to represent the grasshopper in a defamation suit against the ant, and the case is tried before a panel of federal judges that Bill appointed from a list of single-parent welfare moms who can only hear cases on Thursday afternoon between 1:30 and 3:00 PM when there are no talk shows scheduled.

The ant loses the case.

The story ends as we see the grasshopper finishing up the last bits of the ant's food while the government house he's in -- which just happens to be the ant's old house -- crumbles around him since he doesn't know how to maintain it. The ant has disappeared in the snow. And on the TV, which the grasshopper bought by selling most of the ant's food, they are showing Bill Clinton standing before a wildly applauding group of Democrats announcing that a new era of "fairness" has dawned in America.


taxocrat version

Despite constant attacks from the grasshoppers, the "leader" ants Clinton and now Kerry continue to work hard to make the house strong. Ant Clinton eliminates a staggering deficit left by grasshoppers Reagan and Bush Sr. and then builds a surplus of funds and a booming economy for all to enjoy, including grasshoppers. Many of the grasshoppers are jealous and relentless in their attacks on the ants.

Ant Kerry volunteers for active duty in Viet Nam, while grasshopper Dubya spends most of his time hopping around and partying and then disappears for months instead of reporting for duty. Grasshopper Dubya, the flying Floridian cockroaches, and the Supreme salamanders steal the 2000 election away from ant Gore and all the ants wanting the house to remain strong. Countless ants weep because they were not allowed to vote or their votes were "somehow lost."

The grasshopper, now the head of the house, declares himself to be a “war insect.” He quickly squanders the surplus budget and puts the house into an even worse deficit than that left by his father grasshopper. The ants in the house are so sad because they have less money, fewer jobs, higher taxes, little or no healthcare, dirty air, and many have lost their relatives in an unjust war.

When asked how history will view him, grasshopper Dubya simply replies, “What does it matter, we will all be dead.”

Difference between old and new versions: In old version, the grasshopper dies. In new version, we all die.

Moral of the story: Vote Democratic to make the house strong again!

centrist view

Ants and Grasshoppers

There are two main takes
on the ant and grasshopper fable.

The Republican or capitalist view
(and basically Aesop’s view) is...
that the hard-working, foresightful
well-organized, commodity-investing ant
knows what needs to be done
to successfully weather the winter
and provide for his family –
while the lazy, leaf munching, hippie hopper,
probably from an illegal alien family
whiles, hops and screws the summer away
leaving eggs hither and yon –
and then has the nerve, the gall
to ask the thrifty, virtuous, abstemious ant
to support him when the cold winds blow,
the corn is gone from the fields
and the blush is off the rose.

The Democrat or socialist view,
au contraire, mon frère is....
that the stingy, grubbing
anal retentive, resource-hogging ant
grabs everything in the field for himself
and his boring, tight-assed little pissant family
even as he’s free to enjoy
the grasshopper’s mating songs
and high-tensile acrobatics
without a ticket or even a fare-thee-well –
and THEN when his neighbor,
who’s honorably practiced his native culture
as hopper traditions demand
is a bit down on his luck in the gathering cold,
with no foodstuffs left in the field clear cut by the ant,
and asks for a bit of hand and a modicum of fairness,
is coldly rebuffed and left to die
by the callousness of a creature of greed.

But both of these, looked at clearly,
are utter nonsense!

Ants are not patriarchal pillaging capitalists –
they’re not even "he’s" at all –
rather an ant hill’s
an ongoing Amazon Warrior Queendom
with a single egg-laying monarch
whose males are bred as stud slaves
and once turned out to fertilize new queens
are antsana non gratia and left to die –
and whose female worker/warrior/nurses
have no sexual lives at all
and work so hard they wear out in weeks
only to be replaced
by the next and next and next generations.

Fierce, aggressive, organized and pitiless
they gather food because they must
and resist all incursions from without
with deadly, swarming, poisonous force –
and will kill and eat a dying grasshopper
in their collective grasp as avidly as a piece of grain –
Because they’re ANTS, dammit!!

Grasshoppers, on the other hand,
are perennials, each on their own,
and must eat fast, grow fast, jump fast,
make mating calls and couple fast
before the days grow short –
and even if the ants were of a mind
to build old grasshopper homes
or fund grasshopper security programs
or re-educate grasshoppers on proper larval care,
t’would all be for naught –
for all the grasshoppers
would still die in the fall,
even in the middle of an endless supply
of the tasty leaves they munch
(which ants neither gather nor eat at all)
and would never raise their children –
Because they’re GRASSHOPPERS, dammit!!

So what’s the REAL moral??
Well..... ....several.

If you’re a grasshopper
stay away from ants, spiders, birds, toads and such,
and eat drink and make whoopee
like there’s no tomorrow –
because for you, in the fall, there isn’t.

If you’re a male ant, tough.
Enjoy being fed and kept idle as a kid
and when shoved out of the nest,
best you at least make love once,
but love made or no,
you’re a dead drone.

If you’re a female worker/warrior ant
bust your butt and stay vigilant every damn day.
Dig, gather, tend, attack, defend. Period.
It’s a hard life, but at least it’s short.

If you’re a queen ant,
lay, lady, lay.

If you’re a writer of fables,
stick with mammals already.
The analogies are closer.

And if you’re a reader or viewer
of any story, book, movie, show or newscast,
do be careful of how many of your own
internalized, anthropomorphized beliefs
you project on others.


http://mcraeclan.com/Graeme/Language/UpdatedAntAndGrasshopper.htm

you know she hasn't really explained to me what it is yet, she is working on a presentation (I loaned her my dry erase board) I do know she has made some combination of an alarm clock, a personal CD player (that was broke), a phone, and an old pair of computer speakers. It makes A LOT of noise.....but that might be all it does.

Does your child have glowing red eyes and dress frequently in large brown hooded robes?

Your daughter is a Jawa.

keep poking her, that'd sure annoy the heck outta me

I'd go with that answer, also keep asking her "why" to everything she says. It sure irritates me when kids say it to me.

;)

p.s darkside rules! (check out star wars gangsta rap by Weird Al Yankovic).

*snip*
http://mcraeclan.com/Graeme/Language/UpdatedAntAndGrasshopper.htm
:p

Hmm. Its dosen't make noise it um........contacts spirits..yes thats it spirits. I can see it now. Miss your loved ones? Want to know what their doing? Well wonder no more. With the Spirit Phone you can talk them all the time. Order yours today!!!

Reminds me of a book by Robert Rankin called Fandom of the Operator.

Where can I get one?:D

Reminds me of a book by Robert Rankin called Fandom of the Operator.

Where can I get one?:D

Call 0800 666123. Make sure you have credit card details ready. Allow upto 6 months delivery. Spirits LTd has does not have reponsibility if your product is broken/fake/nonexistant....

"do you think someone would pay me for something if it didn't work but I told them that if they could make it work they could be rich?"

That's what marketing is! :P

Call 0800 666123. Make sure you have credit card details ready. Allow upto 6 months delivery. Spirits LTd has does not have reponsibility if your product is broken/fake/nonexistant....

That's cool. I'll do it!:)

*checks credit card balances*

Aww... man no funds :mad:

okay, so apparently her invention doesn't do what she thought it would, but... it does annoy the dog, so she is going to "market it" to people who have a phobia of dogs, she says they can carry it with them, and if a dog comes close they turn it on and he will run away......I asked her what if the dog doesn't run away and instead eats them?

she said "no refund"

I have decided to play along until her dad gets home, let her annoy him. :p

okay, so apparently her invention doesn't do what she thought it would, but... it does annoy the dog, so she is going to "market it" to people who have a phobia of dogs, she says they can carry it with them, and if a dog comes close they turn it on and he will run away......I asked her what if the dog doesn't run away and instead eats them?

she said "no refund"

I have decided to play along until her dad gets home, let her annoy him. :p
She rocks :D

She knows that all profit is good profit.

Refunds are teh ebil. :mad:

you know she hasn't really explained to me what it is yet, she is working on a presentation (I loaned her my dry erase board) I do know she has made some combination of an alarm clock, a personal CD player (that was broke), a phone, and an old pair of computer speakers. It makes A LOT of noise.....but that might be all it does.

Ask her how people will carry all this and how they'll power it also. ;)

I asked her what if the dog doesn't run away and instead eats them?

she said "no refund"



hehehehehehehe

Your daughter will go far. I pity those in her way!

Are her first two initials JP like JP Morgan or JP Getty?

You know, this is a good time to bring up the magic of investing. They're never too young.

okay, so apparently her invention doesn't do what she thought it would, but... it does annoy the dog, so she is going to "market it" to people who have a phobia of dogs, she says they can carry it with them, and if a dog comes close they turn it on and he will run away......I asked her what if the dog doesn't run away and instead eats them?

she said "no refund"

I have decided to play along until her dad gets home, let her annoy him. :p
You're daughter wins, she just fucking wins, game over.

Good lord....5 years old and already becoming a con artiste

Smunk - is this the kid that's scared of clowns? If so then maybe it's time to dig your old costume out! :D

Bless the child, she is testing the boundaries of her world, some kids take 'til nine to query like that, some just become automatic citizens and never question anything. Some only get as far as getting upset at the world, some only cope and some only change their environment.

Smunk - is this the kid that's scared of clowns? If so then maybe it's time to dig your old costume out! :D
no that would be the 3 year old, who has as of 30 minutes ago started her own "advertising company" and has pulled out all the crayons and markers and started making ads for her sister's "dogtronic4500" she is also making posters for me, so I will leave her be.

She is going to make me one with a dragon on it for the front door that says "we don't like you, go away"

:D

Tell her you are going to give all your worldly goods to charity and join a commune. Then make a trip to donate some stuff to Goodwill or the Salvation Army.

You need to intervene before she votes for Bush III.

no that would be the 3 year old, who has as of 30 minutes ago started her own "advertising company" and has pulled out all the crayons and markers and started making ads for her sister's "dogtronic4500" she is also making posters for me, so I will leave her be.

She is going to make me one with a dragon on it for the front door that says "we don't like you, go away"

:D

Methinx your kids are gonna take over the world! :p

She is going to make me one with a dragon on it for the front door that says "we don't like you, go away"

:D
The Dogtronic4500 commands you to scan that and share it with the rest of us.

The Dogtronic4500 commands you to scan that and share it with the rest of us.

resistance is futile!

Long Live CAPITALISM!

resistance is futile!
The Dogtronic4500 will assimilate, resistance is futile.

The Dogtronic4500 will assimilate, resistance is futile.

oooo...now I'm worried. Smunk - you've gotta stop them while you still can!!!
:eek:

The Dogtronic4500 commands you to scan that and share it with the rest of us.
in the interest of full disclosure, she doesn't know how to spell, so I wrote out the sentence for her and she copied it to her "poster" also the stuff coming out of the dragon's mouth is supposed to be fire.

Before anyone otherwise criticizes remember she is only 3......

oh, and my scanner is broke :( so I took a pic of it, she is going to color the dragon maybe she hasn't decided. I gave her $1.75 for the poster. http://f10.putfile.com/7/18515483512-thumb.jpg (http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=7/18515483512.jpg&s=f10)

in the interest of full disclosure, she doesn't know how to spell, so I wrote out the sentence for her and she copied it to her "poster" also the stuff coming out of the dragon's mouth is supposed to be fire.
It is obvious that it is a fire breathing dinosaur like creature. Oh no Godzirra!


oh, and my scanner is broke :( so I took a pic of it, she is going to color the dragon maybe she hasn't decided. I gave her $1.75 for the poster.
You're just encouraging them.

That's awesome, everyone should hang that on their door.

It is obvious that it is a fire breathing dinosaur like creature. Oh no Godzirra!
haha.


You're just encouraging them.
encouraging my daughter who is actually working for money? sure. I don't plan on buying the dogtronic4500 especially since she wants $39.00 for it. I told her I would rent it for $6.00 if she thought it would keep daddy out of the kitchen while I am cooking dinner though. ;) I think I can annoy her otherwise.

That's awesome, everyone should hang that on their door.
I am taking it tonight to get it laminated and it will hang on my door after that. :cool:

in the interest of full disclosure, she doesn't know how to spell, so I wrote out the sentence for her and she copied it to her "poster" also the stuff coming out of the dragon's mouth is supposed to be fire.

Before anyone otherwise criticizes remember she is only 3......

oh, and my scanner is broke :( so I took a pic of it, she is going to color the dragon maybe she hasn't decided. I gave her $1.75 for the poster. http://f10.putfile.com/7/18515483512-thumb.jpg (http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=7/18515483512.jpg&s=f10)

Excellent poster!

I especially like the use of day-glo pink eye to frighten people away!

That is the best buck seventy five you will ever spend.

:p

last night while waiting for the fireworks to start I have the following conversation with my 5 year old

Her:"do you want me to be rich?"
Me: "I want you to be happy, but if you want to be rich, I will support that"
H: "okay, I will get rich"
M:"how are you going to get rich?"
H: "I am going to get a lot of money":rolleyes: (yeah, she rolled her eyes)
M: "how are you going to get a lot of money?"
H: "people will give me thier money?"
M: "why would people give you thier money?"
H: "I will ask, and they will give me a little"
M: "but how is that going to make you rich?"
H: "I will ask a lot of people, if 1 million people give me $5 then I will be rich"

:eek:

I then tried to explain to her that I thought it was a better idea to go get a job, and earn money to get rich, to which she replied "but dad and you both have jobs and we aren't rich yet"

I decided to drop it and change the conversation, but today she wakes up and says

Her: "maybe I could sell something and make money?"
Me: "what?"
Her: "a secret"

and she has been in her room for 2 hours taking apart electronics and comes out every so often to ask me questions like

"do you think someone would pay me for something if it didn't work but I told them that if they could make it work they could be rich?"

:D

so......I don't know what to do with her. Her younger sister tells me she is trying to annoy me with this, and that actually does make sense since we had a long discussion about capitalism and socialism a few days back, which by the end of the 4 hour conversation my bias was known........now, how do I annoy her back?


Explain to her that she owes you rent. Explain that interest will be paid on the unpaid rent. Suggests ways at which she could help pay off the interest.

Explain indentured servitude and that you have come round to the capitalist way of thinking.

I then tried to explain to her that I thought it was a better idea to go get a job, and earn money to get rich, to which she replied "but dad and you both have jobs and we aren't rich yet"

Doesn't she have a point? Americans tend to believe that everyone who works hard will get rich in capitalism. All you have is your faith in the free market.

Doesn't she have a point? Americans tend to believe that everyone who works hard will get rich in capitalism. All you have is your faith in the free market.
yeah, I think she doesn't realize that we could be rich if we sacrificed things that we aren't now though. I have priorities and "being rich" isn't really one of them right now.

in the interest of full disclosure, she doesn't know how to spell, so I wrote out the sentence for her and she copied it to her "poster" also the stuff coming out of the dragon's mouth is supposed to be fire.

Before anyone otherwise criticizes remember she is only 3......

oh, and my scanner is broke :( so I took a pic of it, she is going to color the dragon maybe she hasn't decided. I gave her $1.75 for the poster. http://f10.putfile.com/7/18515483512-thumb.jpg (http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=7/18515483512.jpg&s=f10)
That's one heckuva poster for a kid that age. *Capitalism Medal being awarded* *Men in buisness suits rolling drums* "The youngest people to ever receive this medal!"

well theres that pedophilla thread next door....

"I will ask a lot of people, if 1 million people give me $5 then I will be rich"

So she wants to work in sales. How disappointing for you.

Remember the old adage:

Be nice to your kids, they're the ones that will be choosing your retirement home.

:p

last night while waiting for the fireworks to start I have the following conversation with my 5 year old

Her:"do you want me to be rich?"
Me: "I want you to be happy, but if you want to be rich, I will support that"
H: "okay, I will get rich"
M:"how are you going to get rich?"
H: "I am going to get a lot of money":rolleyes: (yeah, she rolled her eyes)
M: "how are you going to get a lot of money?"
H: "people will give me thier money?"
M: "why would people give you thier money?"
H: "I will ask, and they will give me a little"
M: "but how is that going to make you rich?"
H: "I will ask a lot of people, if 1 million people give me $5 then I will be rich"

:eek:

I then tried to explain to her that I thought it was a better idea to go get a job, and earn money to get rich, to which she replied "but dad and you both have jobs and we aren't rich yet"

I decided to drop it and change the conversation, but today she wakes up and says

Her: "maybe I could sell something and make money?"
Me: "what?"
Her: "a secret"

and she has been in her room for 2 hours taking apart electronics and comes out every so often to ask me questions like

"do you think someone would pay me for something if it didn't work but I told them that if they could make it work they could be rich?"

:D

so......I don't know what to do with her. Her younger sister tells me she is trying to annoy me with this, and that actually does make sense since we had a long discussion about capitalism and socialism a few days back, which by the end of the 4 hour conversation my bias was known........now, how do I annoy her back?

Dude. Your 5-year old is an f-ing genius. Most of us don't figure that stuff out until our 20's. By the time she hits high-school she should have moved past the e-bay "selling 10 year old laptops as 5 year old laptops" scam and actually know how to run a corporation, or at least a 6:00 am infomercial.

Remember the old adage:

Be nice to your kids, they're the ones that will be choosing your retirement home.
I'll kill myself before I go into one of those places, lol.

As long as her fiddling with the electronics doesn't produce her a lightsaber with a pink blade and she comes out, saying "I am your daughter!" and you go screaming "Noooooo.......!" things should work out fine.

If she's really interested in fixing or building stuff - why not get her some physics kit for her birthday. (Let's just hope she doesn't produce the first electric chair for puppets or something :p)

That is so f*ing awesome.
Let her read this thread.

YOU ROCK KID!

I think it's time your kid read some Machiavelli.

I think it's time your kid read some Machiavelli.

And throw in some Sun Tzu, Rommel, Carnegie, and Mahan.

And throw in some Sun Tzu, Rommel, Carnegie, and Mahan.
And let's not for get Adam Smith!

And throw in some Sun Tzu, Rommel, Carnegie, and Mahan.

Toss in some L. Ron Hubbard, she may be running her own pyramid scheme/cult someday.

Toss in some L. Ron Hubbard, she may be running her own pyramid scheme/cult someday.


The one book guaranteed to be her favorite:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0553212788/sr=8-1/qid=1152139228/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-7579491-3195918?ie=UTF8

The one book guaranteed to be her favorite:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0553212788/sr=8-1/qid=1152139228/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-7579491-3195918?ie=UTF8
Woo hoo! The Prince! Possibly my favorite book in the world!

No offense Smunkee, but your daughter's about two steps from evil genius. :eek:

No offense Smunkee, but your daughter's about two steps from evil genius. :eek:
Or two years...

Doesn't she have a point? Americans tend to believe that everyone who works hard will get rich in capitalism. All you have is your faith in the free market.

Yes, yes, we're such evil kapitalists... :rolleyes:

Smart and Lazy investors get rich in capitalism. The average hard-worker is broke by 10 years after retiring.

*sighs and goes back to reading Cradle of Saturn by James P. Hogan*

Oh, for a clean start - away from all these maddening, money-obsessed, would-be magnates and moguls.

...now, how do I annoy her back?

Sending her to the (ahem) 're-education camp' would probably be sufficiently annoying.

*schnip*
H: "I will ask, and they will give me a little"
M: "but how is that going to make you rich?"
H: "I will ask a lot of people, if 1 million people give me $5 then I will be rich"

:eek:

I then tried to explain to her that I thought it was a better idea to go get a job, and earn money to get rich, to which she replied "but dad and you both have jobs and we aren't rich yet"
The funny part is, she's right. It is that simple to become a millionaire. And if you're not a charity, it's even tax-free. Most people are just too inhibited by social mores to ask people for money.

*goes to make a website*

well, she sold her dogtronic4500, apparently while it annoyed my dog, it calms the 13 puppies next door, they stopped yapping the moment she turned it on, they look high, anyway, the neighbor paid her $20 for it which we took and put in her savings account, we are going tomorrow to the thrift store to pick up more stuff so she can work on another one....anyone have whining puppies?

haha.

she is good at a lot of things. :) most of them scare the hell out of me though. :(

Why? Has she started drawing plans up for thermonuclear weapons? Smallpox cultures? Spoofed a few million out of the Swiss banks? Stole and sold state secrets to the highest bidder? :p

:p

last night while waiting for the fireworks to start I have the following conversation with my 5 year old

Her:"do you want me to be rich?"
Me: "I want you to be happy, but if you want to be rich, I will support that"
H: "okay, I will get rich"
M:"how are you going to get rich?"
H: "I am going to get a lot of money":rolleyes: (yeah, she rolled her eyes)
M: "how are you going to get a lot of money?"
H: "people will give me thier money?"
M: "why would people give you thier money?"
H: "I will ask, and they will give me a little"
M: "but how is that going to make you rich?"
H: "I will ask a lot of people, if 1 million people give me $5 then I will be rich"

:eek:

I then tried to explain to her that I thought it was a better idea to go get a job, and earn money to get rich, to which she replied "but dad and you both have jobs and we aren't rich yet"

I decided to drop it and change the conversation, but today she wakes up and says

Her: "maybe I could sell something and make money?"
Me: "what?"
Her: "a secret"

and she has been in her room for 2 hours taking apart electronics and comes out every so often to ask me questions like

"do you think someone would pay me for something if it didn't work but I told them that if they could make it work they could be rich?"

:D

so......I don't know what to do with her. Her younger sister tells me she is trying to annoy me with this, and that actually does make sense since we had a long discussion about capitalism and socialism a few days back, which by the end of the 4 hour conversation my bias was known........now, how do I annoy her back?

Her corrupt reasoning reflects on your failure as a mother.

You should have beaten her more often.

well, she sold her dogtronic4500, apparently while it annoyed my dog, it calms the 13 puppies next door, they stopped yapping the moment she turned it on, they look high, anyway, the neighbor paid her $20 for it which we took and put in her savings account, we are going tomorrow to the thrift store to pick up more stuff so she can work on another one....anyone have whining puppies?

haha.

So your five-year old cobbled together a device that emits a sound that calms restless puppies and just sold it for $20?

Damn, that beats the hell out of the lemonade stand my sister and I ran at that age.

Inform her that she owns nothing until she becomes an adult at 18 and therefore if she did make millions they would belong to you and your husband.

well, she sold her dogtronic4500, apparently while it annoyed my dog, it calms the 13 puppies next door, they stopped yapping the moment she turned it on, they look high, anyway, the neighbor paid her $20 for it which we took and put in her savings account, we are going tomorrow to the thrift store to pick up more stuff so she can work on another one....anyone have whining puppies?

haha.

I'll say this about your kid. At nearly 5 years, she's a genius. Can I invest in her company? I figure in 2 years time, she'll have a stranglehold on the local electronics market, and in 10, the whole US.

Or she'll be an evil genius with a secret base in some extinct volcanic island planning the construction of her doomsday device. The Humantronic 5000 :p

I believe your daughter has discovered dognip.
Don't want any here, I'm a cat person.



...Did that sound weird to anyone but me?

well, she sold her dogtronic4500, apparently while it annoyed my dog, it calms the 13 puppies next door, they stopped yapping the moment she turned it on, they look high, anyway, the neighbor paid her $20 for it which we took and put in her savings account, we are going tomorrow to the thrift store to pick up more stuff so she can work on another one....anyone have whining puppies?

haha.

Your daughter made 20 dollars AND got rid of dead electronics AND quieted 13 puppies next door.

WIN WIN WIN situation!

so......I don't know what to do with her. Her younger sister tells me she is trying to annoy me with this, and that actually does make sense since we had a long discussion about capitalism and socialism a few days back, which by the end of the 4 hour conversation my bias was known........now, how do I annoy her back?

Start calling her Comrade instead of her given name and suddenly announce that all of her possessions in her room are now being given to the collective (the rest of the family, or a single member of the family of your choice) to be equally distributed amongst the proletariat.

You could even conceivably expand this approach into a 1984 kind of motif and refer to your spouse as Big Brother, and refer to her needling as "thoughtcrime".

Have fun.

:p

last night while waiting for the fireworks to start I have the following conversation with my 5 year old

Her:"do you want me to be rich?"
Me: "I want you to be happy, but if you want to be rich, I will support that"
H: "okay, I will get rich"
M:"how are you going to get rich?"
H: "I am going to get a lot of money":rolleyes: (yeah, she rolled her eyes)
M: "how are you going to get a lot of money?"
H: "people will give me thier money?"
M: "why would people give you thier money?"
H: "I will ask, and they will give me a little"
M: "but how is that going to make you rich?"
H: "I will ask a lot of people, if 1 million people give me $5 then I will be rich"

:eek:

I then tried to explain to her that I thought it was a better idea to go get a job, and earn money to get rich, to which she replied "but dad and you both have jobs and we aren't rich yet"

I decided to drop it and change the conversation, but today she wakes up and says

Her: "maybe I could sell something and make money?"
Me: "what?"
Her: "a secret"

and she has been in her room for 2 hours taking apart electronics and comes out every so often to ask me questions like

"do you think someone would pay me for something if it didn't work but I told them that if they could make it work they could be rich?"

:D

so......I don't know what to do with her. Her younger sister tells me she is trying to annoy me with this, and that actually does make sense since we had a long discussion about capitalism and socialism a few days back, which by the end of the 4 hour conversation my bias was known........now, how do I annoy her back?


Put 25% Dad tax on anything she makes, heh at least that way you'll be prepearing her for the world.

Her: "maybe I could sell something and make money?"
Me: "what?"
Her: "a secret"

and she has been in her room for 2 hours taking apart electronics...
Dude, your kid is awesome! The future of humanity, if you ask me.

Get her a dual degree in Engineering and Business, then let her loose on the planet.

She sounds gorgeous!

Praise her for making a useful object and selling it to someone with an actual need for the product. Admire her bank book.

Then, after warning everyone in your street to give her no money, suggest she try out her other idea of begging for money, send her round the street and when she comes back, having only gained some social skills but no cash from the exercise...maybe she will naturally turn her creative mind to more sucessful ventures.

You can teach empathy to stop begging, but when you have children with Asperger's in the family, you learn to use self interest. ;-)

Threaten to burn her teddy bear if she doesn't listen to you. Or call her a capitalist pig....

Worked for me:)

It only took a couple of years in my case:P

well, she sold her dogtronic4500, apparently while it annoyed my dog, it calms the 13 puppies next door, they stopped yapping the moment she turned it on, they look high, anyway, the neighbor paid her $20 for it which we took and put in her savings account, we are going tomorrow to the thrift store to pick up more stuff so she can work on another one....anyone have whining puppies?

haha.Your daughter is a genius.

Put 25% Dad tax on anything she makes, heh at least that way you'll be prepearing her for the world.Sorry for the double post, but Smunk is a woman.

Sorry for the double post, but Smunk is a woman.

yes, but the man should get all the money....

Does she have an allowence? If so, tell her she's now supporting her sister/s and take all but a penny away. :fluffle:

Whilst I don't wish to question your motives, WHY were you having a deep and meaningful conversation about capitalism and socialism...

WITH A FOUR YEAR OLD CHILD????

Sorry, I just can't get over it.

Whilst I don't wish to question your motives, WHY were you having a deep and meaningful conversation about capitalism and socialism...

WITH A FOUR YEAR OLD CHILD????

Sorry, I just can't get over it.
Children are smarter then adults. Get over yourself and realize we can exploit that somehow...

Sorry for the double post, but Smunk is a woman.


Ahhh then ignore the word Dad and substitute it for Mum!

Does she have an allowence? If so, tell her she's now supporting her sister/s and take all but a penny away. :fluffle:

Heh thats what my Dad done to me. He made me go out and get a paper roubnd then said okay son yor earning now you can give the twins their pocket money!:eek:

I just realized something. Smunk's 4 year old kid made a dog pacifier with computer speakers and other assorted junk. Now they're going to the thrift shop to get more old gear for her to play with. What are the odds that she'll turn out something like that anti-kid noisemaker in the next installment?

What will she make when she's older?

What will she make when she's older?
Is it wrong that the first thing that came to my head was "Vibrators. Really fancy ones."?

I probably need to sleep.

I will conceed (as usual) to having not read the entire thread yet, but based on the original post, I think you are missing the point:

This child has a brilliant future in late-night infomercials, or perhaps American politics.

Swallow your pride and get on the gravy train. Take good care of this one, and plan on retiring in style.

Does she have an allowence? If so, tell her she's now supporting her sister/s and take all but a penny away. :fluffle:
she doesn't get an allowance, but that would be a good idea if she did. :cool:

I just realized something. Smunk's 4 year old kid made a dog pacifier with computer speakers and other assorted junk. Now they're going to the thrift shop to get more old gear for her to play with. What are the odds that she'll turn out something like that anti-kid noisemaker in the next installment?

What will she make when she's older?
You know what I could make with computer speaks and assorted junk?
Something for the garbageman to take away.

Start calling her Comrade instead of her given name and suddenly announce that all of her possessions in her room are now being given to the collective (the rest of the family, or a single member of the family of your choice) to be equally distributed amongst the proletariat.

You could even conceivably expand this approach into a 1984 kind of motif and refer to your spouse as Big Brother, and refer to her needling as "thoughtcrime".

Have fun.
ah, yes. This is exactly what I was looking for, you are a genius.......I wonder if she is old enough for 1984 or if it will freak her out.

OMG, I just remembered that we have been reading Animal Farm, no wonder the kid has been acting weird.......

I am so dumb sometimes :( I really gotta fix that........:headbang:

Send her to Japan, she will be made an honorary god for craeting odd objects out of random junk and will be featured on all the tv shows.

Whilst I don't wish to question your motives, WHY were you having a deep and meaningful conversation about capitalism and socialism...

WITH A FOUR YEAR OLD CHILD????

Sorry, I just can't get over it.

Probably for the same reason that my little girl had a fair grasp on concepts like parallax and perspective at three. Kids have a much better ability to grasp the world than most people allow.

On the other hand, if you talk babytalk to them until their teen years, that's what you are going to get back.

in the interest of full disclosure, she doesn't know how to spell, so I wrote out the sentence for her and she copied it to her "poster" also the stuff coming out of the dragon's mouth is supposed to be fire.

Before anyone otherwise criticizes remember she is only 3......

oh, and my scanner is broke :( so I took a pic of it, she is going to color the dragon maybe she hasn't decided. I gave her $1.75 for the poster. http://f10.putfile.com/7/18515483512-thumb.jpg (http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=7/18515483512.jpg&s=f10)
Cute Picture!

your 5 year old reminds me of "Family Ties" Alex P. Keaton.... watch yourself there.

well, she sold her dogtronic4500, apparently while it annoyed my dog, it calms the 13 puppies next door, they stopped yapping the moment she turned it on, they look high, anyway, the neighbor paid her $20 for it which we took and put in her savings account, we are going tomorrow to the thrift store to pick up more stuff so she can work on another one....anyone have whining puppies?

haha.

hmmm.... study the effects and document it and if you can, go to the Humane Society and see what else it does, does it work with cats, parakeets and other animals. then see if she can redesign it to make it smaller/portable/good looking and then PATENT IT. save this thread as a form of documented proof (getting the neighbor to sign something in effect might help.)

also, if the Puppies look 'high' you might wanna get them examined by the Vet for any adverse effects. dont wanna get sued for cruelty to animals...

btw Smunkee... what is your child's name... MacGyver?

Whilst I don't wish to question your motives, WHY were you having a deep and meaningful conversation about capitalism and socialism...

WITH A FOUR YEAR OLD CHILD????

Sorry, I just can't get over it.
Smunkee's children are much older than they seem.... she (Smunkeeville) should get into teaching... I mean she could give the education system the Jolt it needs to get back on track.

Smunkee's children are much older than they seem.... she (Smunkeeville) should get into teaching... I mean she could give the education system the Jolt it needs to get back on track.
up until a kid is about 7 they are a sponge, they absorb whatever is around them, the question is what are you soaking kids in these days?

most people? cartoons, TV, and video games.

My house is 100% learning all the time, we even learn while we are watching TV, cartoons, and playing video games.

I do teach preschool in the fall, I had a kid this year who came in November with a 4 word speaking vocab, he said "mom, cup, daddy, poop" by March he was speaking in complete sentences, they tested him and he now has the vocabulary of a 5 year old, he will be 3 in August.

His parents seem to think that hanging out with me once a week has turned him into a genius, I assure you I am not that cool. Kids and I communicate well. I explained to the parents that all those parent conferences we had actually "re-trained" them on how to talk to thier kid. I didn't fix the kid, he wasn't broke, he was waiting to learn, waiting for someone to teach him.

Hopefully I will finish my book by the deadline and then people will quit thinking I am the "kid fixer" and will be able to "fix" thier own kids....

up until a kid is about 7 they are a sponge, they absorb whatever is around them, the question is what are you soaking kids in these days?

most people? cartoons, TV, and video games.

My house is 100% learning all the time, we even learn while we are watching TV, cartoons, and playing video games.

I do teach preschool in the fall, I had a kid this year who came in November with a 4 word speaking vocab, he said "mom, cup, daddy, poop" by March he was speaking in complete sentences, they tested him and he now has the vocabulary of a 5 year old, he will be 3 in August.

His parents seem to think that hanging out with me once a week has turned him into a genius, I assure you I am not that cool. Kids and I communicate well. I explained to the parents that all those parent conferences we had actually "re-trained" them on how to talk to thier kid. I didn't fix the kid, he wasn't broke, he was waiting to learn, waiting for someone to teach him.

Hopefully I will finish my book by the deadline and then people will quit thinking I am the "kid fixer" and will be able to "fix" thier own kids....

You really are that cool, but I think your influence will give them the power to become evil geniuses! After all.....

KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!
:D

His parents seem to think that hanging out with me once a week has turned him into a genius, I assure you I am not that cool. Kids and I communicate well. I explained to the parents that all those parent conferences we had actually "re-trained" them on how to talk to thier kid. I didn't fix the kid, he wasn't broke, he was waiting to learn, waiting for someone to teach him.
newsflash Smunkee... when it comes to kids and teaching them... you are "That Cool" :D

oh, and I was thinking... what did your 4... er... 5 year old do? can't see her taking those things apart and reconfigring them (sodering and such)


then again, these are your kids here...

newsflash Smunkee... when it comes to kids and teaching them... you are "That Cool" :D

oh, and I was thinking... what did your 4... er... 5 year old do? can't see her taking those things apart and reconfigring them (sodering and such)


then again, these are your kids here...
I am not really sure what all she did, I am not much with electronics, her grandpa is though and they had built a transistor radio before.......

I didn't get to look at the thing much, but I think from the sound of it the radio was intact, she re-wired the sound to come out the computer speakers (well one of them, the other is broke) and attached the bell from the phone (it was old style) to make it ring when you pushed a button. You are supposed to push the button and the ringing gets the dog's attention, then when you turn it on, it makes a sound like static and alarm beeping at the same time, it's a very annoying sound, but it has volume control on it.....sorta......anyway, she knows more about it than I do, I am basically usless with electronics. :p

I am not really sure what all she did, I am not much with electronics, her grandpa is though and they had built a transistor radio before.......

I didn't get to look at the thing much, but I think from the sound of it the radio was intact, she re-wired the sound to come out the computer speakers (well one of them, the other is broke) and attached the bell from the phone (it was old style) to make it ring when you pushed a button. You are supposed to push the button and the ringing gets the dog's attention, then when you turn it on, it makes a sound like static and alarm beeping at the same time, it's a very annoying sound, but it has volume control on it.....sorta......anyway, she knows more about it than I do, I am basically usless with electronics. :p:eek:
Impressive!

If she can make another one, let me know, My cousin has a dog that barks at anyone who isn't immediate family (and nips at them, often times, he's muzzled when guests are around.) wouldn't mind seeing if this works on him.

You discuss politics with a five-year-old?

You discuss politics with a five-year-old?
she started it. :p

You discuss politics with a five-year-old?

You don't?

(Or wouldn't, if you are thus far 5-year-old-free)

she started it. :p

no- i think it was nimrod

You discuss politics with a five-year-old?

Don't knock it. I had discussions with my dad at that age about communism and capitalism, and twenty years later I have degrees in philosophy and political science and am going for even more advanced degrees.

Anything to get them thirsting for more knowledge is in my mind a good thing, no matter how much they actually process of the conversations (which as I recall was not much; I couldn't really wrap my head around the distribution of goods, and my dad was a biology major in college so he wasn't the most articulate proponent of either theory).

You don't?

(Or wouldn't, if you are thus far 5-year-old-free)

Probably not, unless she asked a question about it. From my experience, most of the five-year-olds I meet really don't care about government systems.

Probably not, unless she asked a question about it. From my experience, most of the five-year-olds I meet really don't care about government systems.
which goes back to my theory of 'what are you soaking your sponge in?'

see here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11306846&postcount=143)

most 5 year olds don't care because they don't have knowledge of it, and they don't know it because nobody talks to them about it.

It makes me sick to think that the first years of life when kids learn easier and faster and retain knowledge better are being wasted with Sponge Bob and Rugrats, it's terrible.

I talk to my kids about everything, I talk to them like they are adults, if they are confused I back up, but most of the time they aren't. They have huge vocabularies not because we sit down with flash cards or anything else equally weird, but because I read to them, constantly, talk to them, constantly and never try to "dumb down" for them.

Probably not, unless she asked a question about it. From my experience, most of the five-year-olds I meet really don't care about government systems.

One suspects trhat 'most of the five-year-olds you meet' are not being raised in the kind of environment that fosters that kind of discourse, then.

At three, my daughter had me explain parallax and perspective to her, so she could understand why her shadow jumps from one side to the other, when she walks under a lamp post.

At four, my daughter would bring me my history books, and ask me to teach her about Babylon and the Jews.

At five, my daughter asked me "If black absorbs light, and the other colours reflect it... why is your leather jacket shiny"?

At six, my daughter writes short stories and poetry, and we have debates over the relative merits of different creation stories, and scientific answers to the Creation question...


Talk to kids like they are smart enough to understand.. and often, they do.

Learning machines. That's what kids are.

Don't waste that opportunity.

Aye, my little sister is smarter than my parents think. And she's freakin evil. It is my goal to convert that intellect, for the good of mankind.

"do you think someone would pay me for something if it didn't work but I told them that if they could make it work they could be rich?"

It works for Carlton Sheets or however you spell that dude's last name. Looks like your daughter is on track to selling "Make Millions in Real Estate" schemes on late night television...

It works for Carlton Sheets or however you spell that dude's last name. Looks like your daughter is on track to selling "Make Millions in Real Estate" schemes on late night television...

I know! This girl should be encouraged - she's coming up with these ideas at five. :p

You know what I could make with computer speaks and assorted junk?
Something for the garbageman to take away.

It's obvious the Smunk's kid has more innovative talent than you then :p

Hopefully I will finish my book by the deadline and then people will quit thinking I am the "kid fixer" and will be able to "fix" thier own kids....

Just watch out for parents who send you kids and a copy of Machiavelli's The Prince. Them's Evil Overlords in training. :p

Just a question, but how is your five year old being an inventor mean your losing her to the dark side ?

She sounds great to me, not at all dark-sidish (wee, i invented a word :D)

Just a question, but how is your five year old being an inventor mean your losing her to the dark side ?

She sounds great to me, not at all dark-sidish (wee, i invented a word :D)

Obvious. One day, she'll invent a lightsaber and go after her, shooting lightning and everything.

After all, Anakin was an inventor too :p

It works for Carlton Sheets or however you spell that dude's last name. Looks like your daughter is on track to selling "Make Millions in Real Estate" schemes on late night television...


Bah..why spend the 100 bucks for the program?

I Like an ad I saw in "The Weekly World News":

"Find out how to get one million people to send you 1$!
Send 1$ to....."

Brilliant!

Obvious. One day, she'll invent a lightsaber and go after her, shooting lightning and everything.

After all, Anakin was an inventor too :p

Well, in some wacky way the dog-o-matic she invented could be compared to C3PO :D

Just a question, but how is your five year old being an inventor mean your losing her to the dark side ?

She sounds great to me, not at all dark-sidish (wee, i invented a word :D)
to be clear I am completely cool with the invention, I was not cool with the "asking people for money" and getting nothing in return or the idea of defruading people by selling them something that doesn't work....

If anyone wants to know, the dogtronic4500 is still working, but she is having trouble making another one, although once we figure out how to do it, the local puppy farm wants one (or two, if we can do that)

now, how do I annoy her back?

Tell her you're taking her to Disneyland. Then drive to some building that recently burned down and say, "Oh no, Disneyland burned down." :eek:

Then you can start to go to the real Disneyland, but it's getting kind of late... :p

In reference to Saturday Night Live.

that is one smart five year old....:)

It's obvious the Smunk's kid has more innovative talent than you then :p
I couldn't innovate innovation.

i think we are all smart at five years old, because we dont have any of this "logic" holding us back. we dont know that something is impossible so we dont see it as impossible and we try to achieve the impossible

Well, a a recent convert to free-market Capitalism, ask her what the going rate for stock in her venture is

Well, a a recent convert to free-market Capitalism, ask her what the going rate for stock in her venture is
she lost interest in it today, figured out that the lady next door will pay her $5.00 an hour to read to her elderly mother while she cleans house. My kid is going to have more money than I do soon:( :p