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what are your plans if you are in The United States of America?

and if you aren't does your country have a similar holiday? what's it called? what's it for? when is it and how do you celebrate?

I am going to the obligatory picnic and to see fireworks tomorrow, pretty standard. ;)

and if you aren't does your country have a similar holiday?

It's called lunch break. Generally lasts for an hour.


what's it called?

This year? Tuesday.


what's it for?

Generally to keep track of how many more days before the weekends.


when is it


Every year on the 2nd day of the week.


how do you celebrate?


Generally with some breakfast. ;)

We had our picnic and fireworks on Saturday. I thought about going to see fireworks again on Tuesday, but I have class on Wednesday, and the closest fireworks on Tuesday are about an hour away. Which is an hour trip I really don't feel like making.

what are your plans if you are in The United States of America?

and if you aren't does your country have a similar holiday? what's it called? what's it for? when is it and how do you celebrate?

I am going to the obligatory picnic and to see fireworks tomorrow, pretty standard. ;)
I shall be attending the fireworks in our nation's capital with my partner. He's never been, so this should be interesting...:)

Cookout; wondering if it's anything less than pure insanity to try to see fireworks in D.C.

Cookout; wondering if it's anything less than pure insanity to try to see fireworks in D.C.
Nope. It's pretty much pure insanity. And I say this as somebody who lived in Boston for 4 years, a place which has its own fair share of 4th of July insanity.

Obligatory cook out with family, cut out early, go to cook out with friends. I also bought some illegal fireworks, but I'm kind of undecided about whether or not I'm too old to be playing with fireworks.

what are your plans if you are in The United States of America?

Giving a 40oz salute to the death of my nation.

Obligatory cook out with family, cut out early, go to cook out with friends. I also bought some illegal fireworks, but I'm kind of undecided about whether or not I'm too old to be playing with fireworks.
we actually have to go see a professional show this year, my in-laws that are in the county where you can do your own fireworks, are under burn ban :(

and if you aren't does your country have a similar holiday?
"we lost the war Day", yeah... it's great :p

Kind of funny; some years ago I was in Epcot Center, and a citizen from somewhere in the UK judging by his accent was asking when the parks' busiest seasons were.

The clerk helping him listed Easter, Christmas, "And of course the fourth."

The guest was a little mystified and asked, "The fourth of what?"

The clerk looks at him as if he is insane, and says, "The fourth of July..."

At which point I felt it necessary to interupt with a "Pardon me... but I don't really think they celebrate American Independence in the UK."

;) Got a laugh from the the gent, though I'm sorry to say the clerk still looked like he didn't get it.

Obligatory cook out with family, cut out early, go to cook out with friends. I also bought some illegal fireworks, but I'm kind of undecided about whether or not I'm too old to be playing with fireworks.


Too old!? Never. We had one display already in my front yard Saturday night. I have to run back to Alabama to get some more for tomorrow. Theyre so pretty!

I'll probably be watching the 17.25+ ton firework get launched out of Florida

You know, I was just chatting with my SO yesterday and we came to the conclusion that the launch was probably put off just so it COULD be done on Independence Day.

I plan on doing nothing.. :rolleyes:

Although I am possibly going to see fireworks tonight; depends if I feel like sitting there watching the fireworks but hearing the white trash next to me yell at their loud mouthed kids.. I guess I could walk around and meet up with friends from school.. but in the last few days I've said about.. oh 7 words.. I'm feeling very happy not talking or seeing people.. I'm a hermit.

I plan on doing nothing.. :rolleyes:

Although I am possibly going to see fireworks tonight; depends if I feel like sitting there watching the fireworks but hearing the white trash next to yell at their loud mouthed kids...

iPod. Or other personal music device.

prolly gonna go drink some beer and light off some fireworks. the usual 4th.

Giving a 40oz salute to the death of my nation.
Can I join you? I'll pay for the booze.

[/puppy eyes]

iPod. Or other personal music device.
You know, I never even thought of that!

Thank you!

Shame we English can't celebrate an independence day, it's just that we've never let ourselves be subject to the indignity of foreign occupation...

Shame we English can't celebrate an independence day, it's just that we've never let ourselves be subject to the indignity of foreign occupation...
Well, you can celebrate your military, one of the world's superpowers at the time, being defeated by a bunch of farmers with squirrel rifles.

Well, you can celebrate your military, one of the world's superpowers at the time, being defeated by a bunch of farmers with squirrel rifles.

And the French :D

And the French :D
mostly the French:D

I can't say what my plans are right now, but if all goes well, you will all know soon enough. :D

mostly the French:D


still blaming the french i see.

Well, you can celebrate your military, one of the world's superpowers at the time, being defeated by a bunch of farmers with squirrel rifles.
what? vietnam?


oooh noo.... i see... nevermind ;)

what? vietnam?


oooh noo.... i see... nevermind ;)

No, even worse. Patchouli smelling hippies.

I can't say what my plans are right now, but if all goes well, you will all know soon enough. :D
Oh shi--*runs*

Havin' a cookout. :D I might see some fireworks if someone in my neighborhood (or the one nearby) sets some off in the street. That's my 4th of July for yeh.

still blaming the french i see.
what? no. Im saying the US would not be a country if it werent for them.

Shame we English can't celebrate an independence day, it's just that we've never let ourselves be subject to the indignity of foreign occupation...

Americans didn't *let* themselves be subject to the indignity of foreign occupation either. You Brits just came here and built towns and started calling yourselves Americans. Then the Brits that were still in England started demanding money of the Americans and the Americans said "let us in Parliament, then we'll pay up" and Ol' Georgie was like "NO! GIMME MAH MONAH!" and the Americans got together on July 4th, 1776, and told England, "Well f@#$ THAT!"

And then the most powerful military in the world at that time got beat by a bunch of Frenchies and farmers with rifles. :D

Cookout, then fireworks. However...the firing range near my aunts place is open, maybe I could sneak down and fire off a few rounds? Always fun to begin the fireworks early!

what are your plans if you are in The United States of America?

and if you aren't does your country have a similar holiday? what's it called? what's it for? when is it and how do you celebrate?

I am going to the obligatory picnic and to see fireworks tomorrow, pretty standard. ;)Germany's is October 3rd, but it hardly gets celebrated. It's Reunification Day.

But for the fourth of July, I'll be watching Germany stomp Italy into the ground :)

FYI, its weritten 1/7 in the civilised world.

FYI, its weritten 1/7 in the civilised world.

And what holiday would the 1st of July be?

FYI, its weritten 1/7 in the civilised world.

do you perhaps mean 4/7

And what holiday would the 1st of July be?

Canada Day!

But for the fourth of July, I'll be watching Germany stomp Italy into the ground :)

start of WW3?

Canada Day!

everyone knows thats as useless as talk like a pirate day



:D

Happy "we got the hell out of America" day!

start of WW3?World Cup Semi-Finals :D

everyone knows thats as useless as talk like a pirate day



:D

Here in Michigan it's rather handy that Canada Day and US Independence Day are so close together. The cities on the border coordinate their fireworks displays, and there are displays going on all over the state for a week. If I wanted to I could see fireworks every day from the 28th of June up until the 4th of July.

everyone knows thats as useless as talk like a pirate day



:D

Hey! Talk Like A Pirate Day got me laid once! What the hell has Canada Day ever done for me?!?

I'll probably be watching the 17.25+ ton firework get launched out of Florida

Probably not going to happen. They discovered a crack in the foam casing on that particular firework.

Can I join you? I'll pay for the booze.

[/puppy eyes]

We dont pay for booze here in Jersey. We steal it.

White Sox vs. Orioles, sec 151 at US Cellular Field. Jose Contreras (8-0) 3.54 vs Rodrigo Lopez (5-9) 6.32. Contreras, the best pitcher in baseball right now, is looking for his 17th straight win as he continues his campaign for Cy Young. Hoping the Sox can hammer out another win. Last game I went to was the ESPN game when they came back from a 9-2 deficit in the 8th to go to extras. They almost pulled it off in the 10th.

I am going to Drink beer ..smoke a few doobies ...eat a bunch of charred meat..and water melon and corn on the cob...some steamed clams and at night some crabs ...then break out the jack Daniels and blow shit up for a while ...then a few more doobs and go look for something left over to eat...:D

Happy "we got the hell out of America" day!

Kicked your asses... :D

Probably not going to happen. They discovered a crack in the foam casing on that particular firework.

NASA is probably dumb enough to launch it anyways...

Americans didn't *let* themselves be subject to the indignity of foreign occupation either. You Brits just came here and built towns and started calling yourselves Americans. Then the Brits that were still in England started demanding money of the Americans and the Americans said "let us in Parliament, then we'll pay up" and Ol' Georgie was like "NO! GIMME MAH MONAH!" and the Americans got together on July 4th, 1776, and told England, "Well f@#$ THAT!"

And then the most powerful military in the world at that time got beat by a bunch of Frenchies and farmers with rifles. :D
You see, it's appallingly inaccurate and nationalist statements like this that make people like me, who would ordinarily just say "have a good day", say instead "stop talking utter bollocks and learn some history."

I'll probably be watching the 17.25+ ton firework get launched out of Florida

That would be my dreamshot of riding atop that fountain of fire! :D

what are your plans if you are in The United States of America?

and if you aren't does your country have a similar holiday? what's it called? what's it for? when is it and how do you celebrate?

I am going to the obligatory picnic and to see fireworks tomorrow, pretty standard. ;)

Although I am not American, I intend to celebrate Independence Day in my own special way. I am going to dress up as George III, stand on our Atlantic Coast and scream "We'll be back, you'll see! YOU'LL SEE! And we'll get your pesky little dog too!"

We dont pay for booze here in Jersey. We steal it.
Cool!

Although I am not American, I intend to celebrate Independence Day in my own special way. I am going to dress up as George III, stand on our Atlantic Coast and scream "We'll be back, you'll see! YOU'LL SEE! And we'll get your pesky little dog too!"
Video Tape it.....

and then we'll find a way to get it on some news channel somehow

I'm American and I'm taking July 4th off.

My family and some friends are coming over- we're grilling ribs, burgers,dogs and whatever anyone else brings. Corn on the cob, baked beans, fresh cherries, watermelon, etc..
We also have a load of beer I'll put on ice tommorrow morning.

We'll probably hit the beach for a little while and I'm teaching my boys to sail.


I'll also set off some fireworks tommorrow night while the kids roast marshmellows and catch fireflies.

You see, it's appallingly inaccurate and nationalist statements like this that make people like me, who would ordinarily just say "have a good day", say instead "stop talking utter bollocks and learn some history."

Can't take a joke then, I take it? I did learn history, I WAS JOKING AROUND. Gosh.

:rolleyes:

I do know that the Americans started most of the conflict in the Revolution, we spent so much time on in it SS that we didn't even get past the year 1800.

But it still was "Taxation without Representation," so it was kinda George III's fault, because he wouldn't let the colonists speak up, and then he started all sorts of other restricitons on the colonists, and that's what led to the Declaration of Independence, taxes didn't play *that* big a role in it.

See? American teenagers DO know something. Now, if you don't mind, I'll spend tomorrow celebrating the fact that Americans now don't have to worry about some king taking their rights away from across an ocean.

I'm going to be fending Earth off from an alien invasion. Oh wait, you mean that Independance Day? :p
I know I'll go see fireworks, probably go eat somwhere nice.

I'm American and I'm taking July 4th off.
Hey it's you!

How has your week been?

HE he, I've just remembered, my sister's softball team has practice tomorrow, but my parents aren't lettign my sister go... and sadly she doesn't want to go anyway. :(

Whatever the party I got invited to turns out to be, so probably fireworks and meat.

Hoo ha America!!!!

:eek: :sniper:

I'll be sitting at home with my family... possibly going to a dinner with our family friends... or all of us with their neighbors... who knows. Whatever we do or don't do, I ain't cookin' it up. I'd just as easily ignore the whole day. I do most national holidays, and I celebrate plenty that aren't recognized here.

I will comment, however, that the overexcitable fireworks have been mellower this year. I've always ranted and raved that the holiday is 4th of July, not 1st thru 7th of July. If you've got some left over shoot a few off on the 5th, but no reason to start early and go on for a week.

I'm going to see the fireworks show in 45 minutes. Then waiting there for 2 and a half hours. I hope there's at least enough room to toss around a football or kick a soccer ball around. That's the problem with seeing big city ones compared to small town ones. HUGE crowds.

I'm afraid that I'm going to be working all day today (It's the 4th in Japan) and teaching an adult English class tonight.

I wanted to get hotdogs and set off some fireworks, but it's raining and my little supermarket ran out of hotdogs. :(

Japan actually has three different days to celebrate, Foundation Day (2/11), Constitution Day (5/3) and the Emperor's Birthday (12/23). The only thing interesting about any of them is that you can get onto the ground of the Imperial Palace on the Emperor's Birthday and see the Imperial family if you so wish. You can also sign a birthday book for him.

I have to admit that the Japanese have us beat in terms of fireworks during the summer though.

Hey it's you!

How has your week been?


Been good, thanks. We closed on the sale of our old house and the purchase of a new one last week.

I'm now in PA-almost all moved in. This place is great-better than I thought.

Hows everything with you?

what are your plans if you are in The United States of America? ;)
hmm... get up, go to work (I work in a Hospital, so no holiday for me :( ) go home, then depending on my mood...
Fustrated - Mad = Play Unreal Tourniment on my ps2...
not fustrated - Play Everquest on my PS2

watch fireworks, then go sleep.

(have fun at that picnic tomorrow!)

what are your plans if you are in The United States of America?

and if you aren't does your country have a similar holiday? what's it called? what's it for? when is it and how do you celebrate?

I am going to the obligatory picnic and to see fireworks tomorrow, pretty standard. ;)

Helping father clean the bathroom and watch the fireworks on WPXI! Gotta love the fireworks on the 3 rivers.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY AMERICA!

I get to go to the mall here in Lexington, KN with my debate institute to see Superman returns and get the hell off campus for a little while. I think the whole nation might well get to see some $18 million fireworks tommorow thanks to NASA. Just joking. Food wise I envy all fo you. I might end up getting like fried chicken or something for lunch but it will prolly be so greasy that it could Rival some of y'alls fireworks :rolleyes: . Anywho back to work.

Eric Out

I get to go to the mall here in Lexington, KN with my debate institute to see Superman returns and get the hell off campus for a little while. I think the whole nation might well get to see some $18 million fireworks tommorow thanks to NASA. Just joking. Food wise I envy all fo you. I might end up getting like fried chicken or something for lunch but it will prolly be so greasy that it could Rival some of y'alls fireworks :rolleyes: . Anywho back to work.

Eric Out

Your abbreviation for Kentucky is wrong. Kentucky is KY not KN.

Shame we English can't celebrate an independence day, it's just that we've never let ourselves be subject to the indignity of foreign occupation...
You mean besides the Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Vikings and Scots?

I intend to watch the Washington Mutual fireworks on Lake Union on HDTV. I don't go to fireworks shows anymore because in 1993, I was fortunate to be able to share a sailboat on Lake Union for those same fireworks. To be out on the water while the explosions and foutains of flame go off just over your head and you can even feel the shockwave from the blasts in the sky reverberate in your chest and move your shirt around...well, nothing tops that.


I'll also be secretly wishing a mild illness on everyone who doesn't understand that ALL fireworks are ILLEGAL within the city limits of my home town. Every year for the fortnight surrounding US Independence Day, it sounds like a bleeding war zone. What is it with mouth-breathers and their desire for noise? They pass it on to their little yard-ape cracker spawn and it perpetuates throughout society.

So, since it's 9:30 PM right now and that I might not be on at all tomorrow, I'd like to wish all the americans a Happy 4th of July. WHEEEEE USA! GET RID OF BUSH! :p

Let's all just take this day off to clebrate a great nation (with the minor flaw of President Bush) and remember what the Founding Fathers risked so that we could be free, those 230 years ago.

I know, it's still the 3rd, but I stil might not be on tomorrow, so... Happy 4th of July anyways. :p

I'll barbecue some kebabs, grill some vegetables and garlic bread. It'll be just my daughter and me. After that, we might join some friends for fireworks. It'll be a quiet day.

Shame we English can't celebrate an independence day, it's just that we've never let ourselves be subject to the indignity of foreign occupation...

Hmm... ever heard of ROME? Or did Boudica win? :D

Going to watch the fireworks with the symphony in Arlington, but just doing sparklers this year, been too dry and dangerous to try anything else. The pryo in me is very sad ... :(

Oh at 5 yrs and 1 1/2 yrs, they will pretty much get a kick out sparklers and the show.

I'm doing a LOT of laundry. Also, some computer games. Yes!

I celebrated the day... 2 days ago. :)

Can't take a joke then, I take it? I did learn history, I WAS JOKING AROUND. Gosh.

:rolleyes:

I do know that the Americans started most of the conflict in the Revolution, we spent so much time on in it SS that we didn't even get past the year 1800.

Apparently, you really do need to go back to history class. Both sides were responsible for foamenting the Revolution.

But it still was "Taxation without Representation," so it was kinda George III's fault, because he wouldn't let the colonists speak up, and then he started all sorts of other restricitons on the colonists, and that's what led to the Declaration of Independence, taxes didn't play *that* big a role in it.

Played more of a role than you think but it was just one big reason among many. *points to Dec of Ind for what I mean*

See? American teenagers DO know something. Now, if you don't mind, I'll spend tomorrow celebrating the fact that Americans now don't have to worry about some king taking their rights away from across an ocean.

*drinks a coke for that line*

I'm going to a Tex-Mex resturaunt with my family.

I'm going to a Tex-Mex resturaunt with my family.

Fajitas kick more ass than anything in the entire world of food. I'm going to get some Tex-Mex followed by fireworks and maybe Starbucks to top it off.

Who needs the Fourth of July when you've got....... WAITANGI DAY!!!

It's on the 6th of February, and it 'celebrates' the day when the Maori and the Pakeha- I mean, British signed the Treaty of Waitangi. We usually celebrate by having stuff at Waitangi, which is usually crashed by a bunch of hardcore Maori having their yearly protest about said Treaty.

Yeah... we rule. :p

Apparently, you really do need to go back to history class. Both sides were responsible for foamenting the Revolution.
I know both sides were responsible. The English wouldn't let the Americans have a voice, and when you look at the Boston massacre it seems like the Americans over-reacted just a tiny bit.

Played more of a role than you think but it was just one big reason among many. *points to Dec of Ind for what I mean*
Yes, but once the taxes were imposed, George III started searches on ships and warehouses without warrants, and he did restrict freedom of speech, and started quartering his soldiers in civilian houses during peaces time before the taxes started... Quite a bit of it was just after the Frenchand Indian War, and the taxes were the last straw because hte colonists had no voice in British government.

*drinks a coke for that line*

Well gee, thanks for thinking I'm just another stupid American.

I know both sides were responsible. The English wouldn't let the Americans have a voice, and when you look at the Boston massacre it seems like the Americans over-reacted just a tiny bit.

Wouldn't you if some military personnel killed 5 of your citizens after a snowball fight? Not to mention Boston's harbor being shut down. That didn't help Georgie boy's case either.

Yes, but once the taxes were imposed, George III started searches on ships and warehouses without warrants, and he did restrict freedom of speech, and started quartering his soldiers in civilian houses during peaces time before the taxes started... Quite a bit of it was just after the Frenchand Indian War, and the taxes were the last straw because hte colonists had no voice in British government.

Hence why I pointed to the Declaration of Independence for the other reasons for the Revolutionary War.

Well gee, thanks for thinking I'm just another stupid American.

I didn't say you were did I? no. I agreed with your last line. I actually agree with all of what you said. Just had to point out a few things is all :)

Wouldn't you if some military personnel killed 5 of your citizens after a snowball fight? I was talking before then too, the snowball fight was started by Americans, and the Boston Tea Party? Hmm? Besides, the Boston Massacre wasn't much of a massacre, when you think about it... *shrug*

I didn't say you were did I? no. I agreed with your last line. I actually agree with all of what you said. Just had to point out a few things is all :)

Ah, okay, misread that. My apologies.

I was talking before then too, the snowball fight was started by Americans, and the Boston Tea Party? Hmm? Besides, the Boston Massacre wasn't much of a massacre, when you think about it... *shrug*

No it wasn't much of a massacre. As to the Boston Tea Party, it was in response to the Tea Tax :D The Snowball fight was started by it but that still didn't give the British the right to fire on the citizens. However, they were tried but most were found innocent of any wrong doing.

Ah, okay, misread that. My apologies.

Its cool :)

Daddy works from nine to one, so I'll probably work on our church website until he gets home. Sister and Mama will probably be shopping or something. When he gets off, we'll go to World Gym for an hour or so then go to Wild Oats to pick up some chicken sausage for dinner. Come home, grill up the sausage, eat outside with the dogs (Bellamy, a Golden Retriever, first birthday on 16 July; and Lucy, an English Setter, three months), then go see some fireworks in town. Fireworks are banned in my city, so the city presentation is the only one people can see :X.

So yeah, pretty much like a normal day except for the fireworks. The dogs are gonna be so scared ;_;. BUT HEY, BELLAMY SAYS HAPPY FOURTH:

http://strawberii.net/fourth.jpg

what are your plans if you are in The United States of America?

and if you aren't does your country have a similar holiday? what's it called? what's it for? when is it and how do you celebrate?

I am going to the obligatory picnic and to see fireworks tomorrow, pretty standard. ;)

Regular working day here. However, Sunday I'll be throwing my annual bash. For this year's bash, I've planned a big beach party instead of the trad BBQ. Bikinis, beer, and beach!

I plan to wake up at about 9 am, and go to work at 11. Probably around 2 pm, I'll walk over to the cheesesteak place around the corner and have lunch, and at 3 ish I'll be back at work. I'll come home at about 8:30, wherupon I will eat my dinner. Then I'll watch some TV, probably be on the internet for a bit, and then go back to sleep.

I just got back from the fireworks. It started raining 20 minutes before they started, so they pushed it 10 minutes early, so the music wasn't syncronized and the parking lamps were still on. The fireworks started nicely but they had to cancel the finale which was a dissapointment. Also the food line at the german booth was huge, so no bratwurst on a stick for me -_-.

Been good, thanks. We closed on the sale of our old house and the purchase of a new one last week.

I'm now in PA-almost all moved in. This place is great-better than I thought.

Hows everything with you?
Last week, the area flooded, but no damage here.

Very humid, planning on stalking yo..Yoko Ono. Yes, Yoko.

I don't see the point in the 4th of July anymore...never really did.

You mean besides the Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Vikings and Scots?
Don't forget the Romans and the French in 1066 (good 'ol William the Conqueror).

And maybe this will round out this thread - the document that established the Fourth of July, for your reading pleasure:

The Declaration of Independence of the Thirteen Colonies
In CONGRESS, July 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. —Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain [George III] is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us, in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by the Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

Selginius I don't think anybody will read that.

Selginius I don't think anybody will read that.
Sadly, no. Why read the document that helped forge the nation we live in today, and provided many of the ideas for our Constitution as well?

Though I plan on making my kids suffer through me reading it to them tomorrow and every fourth from now until they move out. Not the whole thing, just thru the "When in the course of human events" main paragraph.

Cookout; wondering if it's anything less than pure insanity to try to see fireworks in D.C.

Iwas in DC on July 5th one year, and the entire way around the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool was littered with TONS of spent bottle rockets and other fireworks. Too bad I didn't get to see any of it the night before. :(

Iwas in DC on July 5th one year, and the entire way around the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool was littered with TONS of spent bottle rockets and other fireworks. Too bad I didn't get to see any of it the night before. :(
I would LOVE to take a vacation one year in DC around the 4th.

I chilled with some friends for most of the afternoon today, then watched the local professional fireworks display. Not bad, but it was of noticably lower quality than the last time I went (two years ago).

Today, well...I'm currently at work, and don't get done until 7am, so I sleep until the afternoon, then go over to my friends to get overly full on grilled meat, followed by my OWN fireworks display.

It'll be a good time! :D

Happy Independence Day!!!

what are your plans if you are in The United States of America?

and if you aren't does your country have a similar holiday? what's it called? what's it for? when is it and how do you celebrate?

I am going to the obligatory picnic and to see fireworks tomorrow, pretty standard. ;)

Well, I have a paid day off work (yes! I love working in an international environment!) and will probably head onto the base around noon...that's supposed to be when all the festivities get started. Other than that, I've got to get my immunizations and a new passport--fantastic!:rolleyes:

Shame we English can't celebrate an independence day, it's just that we've never let ourselves be subject to the indignity of foreign occupation...

Unless you count that little German problem. Queen Elizabeth II. Dont be sad though, you get to blow things up celebrating Guy Fawkes trying to blow up parliament.

I would LOVE to take a vacation one year in DC around the 4th.

Bring lots of ice water. From what I remember (it's been a few years), it's damn hot and humid around DC this time of year.

Bring lots of ice water. From what I remember (it's been a few years), it's damn hot and humid around DC this time of year.
Not a problem, I'm from Houston, where the average summer day is low of 80 (just before the sun rises), high in the mid to upper 90's, with humidity of 70-80%. Why, it'd be a cool day in the park to what I'm used to!

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

Ha, I know that one by heart!

I don't see the point in the 4th of July anymore...never really did.

It's
to send up the "Special Relationship" bewteen America and Britain,
distract the Americans from the real problems in the world.


Bread and circuses everybody, bread and circuses.

It's
to send up the "Special Relationship" bewteen America and Britain,
distract the Americans from the real problems in the world.


Bread and circuses everybody, bread and circuses.



To me it's about forcing me to praise a country I don't particularly care for. I don't care if anybody else like america, I just happen not to. Of course where does it say I have to love america?

i spent independance day in the states on holiday *thinks* 3 years ago. I was in little town in Oregon and they go all out there. There was a parade, fireworks, and a street party... it was cool

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COMMENTARY: I'll be with my family, as usual. It's traditional for us to be together on July 4th, with the hot dogs, hamburgers, cips and dip, and beer. Later in the evening, we'll watch the local fireworks display. What are you doing today? ( All derogatory comments will be ignored. Today, you will not bring me down. ) :D

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Red, white and true to U.S. (http://http://www.washtimes.com/national/20060703-112356-5789r.htm)


By Jennifer Harper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
July 4, 2006

Three cheers for the red, white and blue.

Pride in America prevails across the country, according to a spate of public opinion polls that reveal old-fashioned patriotism remains in the heart of the nation.

"Majority still extremely proud to be an American," heralds a Gallup poll released yesterday that asked respondents to quantify their feelings. Overall, 92 percent said they were proud to be Americans, with 57 percent describing themselves as "extremely proud."

Some were prouder than others, though. Three-quarters of Republican respondents were in the extreme category, along with 71 percent of conservatives and 66 percent of Southerners. The figure stood at 40 percent among liberals, 47 percent among Democrats and 49 percent among those who had postgraduate education.

The survey of 1,002 adults was conducted June 9 to 11 and had a margin of error of three percentage points.

Yankee pride resonated on a global scale as well. The United States ranked first in a patriotism survey of 34 countries, said a University of Chicago study that gauged the feelings of more than 28,000 adults throughout Europe and Asia toward their homeland's politics, military might, history and other factors.

"While America's position as the remaining superpower and world's largest economy clearly plays an important role in this top ranking, an element of idealism also spurs pride in the U.S.," the study noted. "Unlike most nation-states, which were built up around a primordial tribe, the U.S. is based on a set of shared ideals. This allows American pride to be not only particularistic, but also universal."

Neither gas prices, the Dixie Chicks' cynicism nor uneasiness over terrorism has taken a toll on July Fourth, apparently: 87 percent of us plan to celebrate, according to a survey of 7,400 adults released June 22 by the National Retail Federation (NRF).

Nine out of 10 of us -- up from 77 percent last year -- will head to a community celebration or watch fireworks, the survey found. And Old Glory rules: 112 million of us own an American flag, while 87 million own patriotically themed hats, shirts and other items. The NRF poll of 7,479 consumers was taken June 7 to 14 and has a margin of error of one percentage point.

A Fox News survey of 900 voters, meanwhile, found that 57 percent said the nation is more patriotic than it was five years ago. Given the choice, 44 percent said they would rather spend Independence Day with President Bush than Al Gore, the choice of 35 percent, though 19 percent opted for "neither." Among Republicans, 83 percent chose Mr. Bush and 4 percent Mr. Gore; 11 percent said neither. Among Democrats, 66 chose Mr. Gore, 13 percent Mr. Bush and 19 percent neither. The Fox poll of 900 registered voters was taken last Tuesday and Wednesday, and it had a margin of error of three percentage points.

American patriotism is not necessarily a seasonal occurrence. A Purdue University survey of 1,500 adults conducted from August to January found that 97 percent were proud to be Americans, 96 percent said being an American is an important part of who they are, and 92 percent said they consider themselves "an American first and foremost."

In other countries, pride of identification is usually in the 80 percent range, study author and sociologist Jeremy Straughn told the Lincoln (Neb.) Journal Star on Sunday, adding, "American identity is almost like a religion."

In addition, more than 90 percent said that speaking and writing English well and a willingness to pledge allegiance to the flag are important in defining someone as truly American.

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COMMENTARY: I'll be with my family, as usual. It's traditional for us to be together on July 4th, with the hot dogs, hamburgers, cips and dip, and beer. Later in the evening, we'll watch the local fireworks display. What are you doing today?
I'll watch football!!!! Like 3 billion, give or take, others.
*launches snotrocket at DC*

Not at all I guess.. Is it wrong to post here if you're not from the USA? If so then disregard my post.

"Unlike most nation-states, which were built up around a primordial tribe, the U.S. is based on a set of shared ideals. This allows American pride to be not only particularistic, but also universal."

and all other countries that grew up from a 'primordial tribe' cant be patriotic at a civilization that has been around onger that their own?

and if you aren't does your country have a similar holiday?

Yes


what's it called?


Independence day :)


what's it for?


Achieving independence from Russia



when is it and how do you celebrate?


18th November, celebration is watching fireworks in extreme cold (usually) and then eating supper with families or getting drunk in pubs (depending on preferences)

Let's just hope that the US doesn't celebrate it by blowing up the Space Shuttle yet again. That's fireworks I don't want to see, especially not with our German engineer on board...

Celebrating the heroes of July 4th, of course. (http://web.telia.com/~u31626597/vmbilder/dfbelf_GER-HUN_1954.jpg)

Celebrating the heroes of July 4th, of course. (http://www.anae.mu-luebeck.de/anae2000/Simulator/helden%20von%20bern.gif)
And who might those gentlemen in the photograph be? :)

Celebrating the heroes of July 4th, of course. (http://www.anae.mu-luebeck.de/anae2000/Simulator/helden%20von%20bern.gif)Hehe. Tonight against Italy too.

On a more serious note, I hung up my American flag on my window for today and exchanged my oil splattered banner for the star spangled banner for today.

And who might those gentlemen in the photograph be? :)First German soccer team to win a world cup, on the 4th of July, 1954 in Bern, Switzerland. :)

On a more serious note, I hung up my American flag on my window for today and exchanged my oil splattered banner for the star spangled banner for today.
I blew my nose in one once.

And who might those gentlemen in the photograph be? :)
The Germans that won the WC in 1954, if I'm correct.:p

First German soccer team to win a world cup, on the 4th of July, 1954 in Bern, Switzerland. :)
damn you, I had to search for it:p

Selginius I don't think anybody will read that.

You are wrong. I read it. Out of boredom, and because, I had never read this document.

On a more serious note, I hung up my American flag on my window for today and exchanged my oil splattered banner for the star spangled banner for today.I blew my nose in one once.Didn't the oil feel odd, all over your nose?

Didn't the oil feel odd, all over your nose?
No. Kinda soothing.

but I'm kind of undecided about whether or not I'm too old to be playing with fireworks.

Quiet with such heretical thoughts! Fireworks are for everyone!

Didn't the oil feel odd, all over your nose?
I'd be surprised how VW would be able to blow their nose on one of these:
http://www.tribout.com/ProductImages/DOZ18.jpg

We've don't have Independence Day.

(Hell, we don't have any Independence Day of our own either)

I'd be surprised how VW would be able to blow their nose on one of these:
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Maybe he has a really tiny nose?

I'd be surprised how VW would be able to blow their nose on one of these:
http://www.tribout.com/ProductImages/DOZ18.jpg
Naah. It was a big one. Belonged to an American exchange student.

I won't.

working.


as the 51st state of america, i don't see why we shouldn't have the day off too :( (especially cos we lost the war... you know.... we need time off to be grumpy and stuff ;))

Fireworks are illegal in the city limits where I live. So, I'll just enjoy my day off work, and this evening I'll sit on my front porch and watch the illegal fireworks displays.

Not at all... unless Germany should win. In which case, I was reminded today, it is my moral obligation to get drunk in a Dublin pub and cheer until my voice gives out.

But someone please remind me to start some 5 or more threads about "How do you celebrate Reunification Day" on the 3rd of October, please. :rolleyes:

I'll be working at an art festival. Holidays are great for stagehands, there's always work ;)

working.


as the 51st state of america, i don't see why we shouldn't have the day off too :( (especially cos we lost the war... you know.... we need time off to be grumpy and stuff ;))

Same here (Working tonight)

I think we should have the 5th of November as a national holiday; think about it we set off fire works and burn figures of Guy Fakes (or more recently Bin Laden)

Same here (Working tonight)

I think we should have the 5th of November as a national holiday; think about it we set off fire works and burn figures of Guy Fakes (or more recently Bin Laden)

November the 5th? Ah yes, the ''lets burn an effigy that represents the historical and traditional hate/fear of Catholics'' Day.

November the 5th? Ah yes, the ''lets burn an effigy that represents the historical and traditional hate/fear of Catholics'' Day.

If somebody tried to blow up your Capital Hill in Washington D.C I would imagine you wouldn’t like him or her that much .

If somebody tried to blow up your Capital Hill in Washington D.C I would imagine you wouldn’t like him or her that much .
Well, quite a number of us got rather pissed on 9/11, so I suppose you'd be right about that. :)

If somebody tried to blow up your Capital Hill in Washington D.C I would imagine you wouldn’t like him or her that much .Ah, but what if someone burnt down the White House?

Ah, but what if someone burnt down the White House?
Ah, but someone did that already, in 1812. We got kinda pissed about that too. :D

Ah, but someone did that already, in 1812. We got kinda pissed about that too. :DBut we don't burn effigies of Canadians in the streets on the anniversary...

Its over by 33 minutes already guys!:p

Its over by 33 minutes already guys!:pNot in Slovakia... :p

Its over by 33 minutes already guys!:p

Not where I'm at its not :p

Seventh of April has already been over for months.

When, some years later, the founding fathers got to writing all this whacky stuff down, surely they meant:

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear things which make a flash and a bang shall not be infringed"
as the second ammendment.

Bear in mind that at the time, the only flashy, bangy things they had were guns. This quote from John Adams should illustrate:
"It ought to be solemnized with pomp and parade, with shows, games, sports, guns, bells, bonfires, and illuminations, from one end of this continent to the other, from this time forward forever more"

Fireworks. For the people. If your government can't trust you to responsibly burn some waste wood, have a gentlemanly boxing match, and permanently disfigure your sister by shooting her with a rocket, what the hell does democracy MEAN. :p

Maybe a few people should spend the day learning to spell independEnce? ;)

when is this Indie Pen Dance?

when is this Indie Pen Dance?
been waiting for it, I sure have.

The girls and I spell it incorrectly because we have a game where we dance thoughout the fireworks display. ;)

Happy Independance Day!

what are your plans if you are in The United States of America?

and if you aren't does your country have a similar holiday? what's it called? what's it for? when is it and how do you celebrate?

I am going to the obligatory picnic and to see fireworks tomorrow, pretty standard. ;)

Happy independence day, us across the pond are rooting for you - in a civilised British way!

Happy independence day, us across the pond are rooting for you - in a civilised British way!

And us Aussies are rooting for you too. In our less-civilized Aussie way.

And us Aussies are rooting for you too. In our less-civilized Aussie way.

Does it involve plenty of cans of XXXX?

Does it involve plenty of cans of XXXX?

Don't forget the Stump-Jump Plough!

I blew my nose in one once.

Funny, I sometimes watch the history channel and see things about Nazi Germany. It's interesting to see non-Americans back when they were somewhat important.

Ever notice that no one ever burns or derides the German flag? No, me neither. Because it isn't important to anybody.

Funny, I sometimes watch the history channel and see things about Nazi Germany. It's interesting to see non-Americans back when they were somewhat important.

Ever notice that no one ever burns or derides the German flag? No, me neither. Because it isn't important to anybody.Eut had a better answer in what used to be his OP.

If somebody tried to blow up your Capital Hill in Washington D.C I would imagine you wouldn’t like him or her that much .

Er? The Capitol is on flat ground... as is most of DC. The Mall area in particular was filled in marsh.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/medtour/images/capitol.jpg

But we don't burn effigies of Canadians in the streets on the anniversary...

Why would we? The troops that attacked DC were not Canadian, or at best a small minority Canadian. (I've posted this before).

Why would we? The troops that attacked DC were not Canadian, or at best a small minority Canadian. (I've posted this before).Guy Fawkes was only a small part of the Conspiracy...

Guy Fawkes was only a small part of the Conspiracy...

Being dead for 200 odd years by 1812, one would hope so! :)

Funny, I sometimes watch the history channel and see things about Nazi Germany. It's interesting to see non-Americans back when they were somewhat important.

Ever notice that no one ever burns or derides the German flag? No, me neither. Because it isn't important to anybody.

Hello? Welcome.
I politely suggest that you don't make sweeping statements which rely on Nazi Germany as an antithesis. Trust me, it doesn't work.
I jest read the first word of your post. Got me. Congrats, I post anyway. :)

I've got work, but I'm going to try and call out on account of a rash on my hand (actually just poison ivy).

Selginius I don't think anybody will read that.

I, for one, make a point of doing so every year on this date. 'Tis an old family tradition, along with a re-read of the constitution.

You are wrong. I read it. Out of boredom, and because, I had never read this document.

I sincerly hope you got something out of it, if just a sense of history.

Just finished work, now going out for picnic.

For all you americans out there who don't hate america i want to hear why you love your country.

Happy Birthday Imperalistic Neo-Babylon!

Happy Birthday Imperalistic Neo-Babylon!
Hey! Babylon was a great place. Hedonism pwns.

Happy Birthday Imperalistic Neo-Babylon!

... thank you ... you just proved yuorself an idiot, and rude. Did you read the first post.. Why do i ask, obviously not.. because apparently you are anoother person who hates america

... thank you ... you just proved yuorself an idiot, and rude. Did you read the first post.. Why do i ask, obviously not.. because apparently you are anoother person who hates america


Not the actual country, just my government, and the idolatrous, narcissistic, and materialistic. society we have here

You can't possibly think you're the first person to post one of these superfluous threads, can you?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=490322

There is a US national day thread. Use it, please.

i like my country cuz it gives me the right to argue against the president

Because I can walk outside my house in my boxers to walk my dog and not get arrested.

I love the country because of its natural beauty.

i love the country becaues its 3000 miles away

Long live the right to say what you want and not get your head blown off.

Not the actual country, just my government, and the idolatrous, narcissistic, and materialistic. society we have here
Nothing wrong with idols, as long as it’s healthy. Narcissism and materialism drive both the economy and individual success.
Plus, those things are slowly eating away at and will inevitably destroy the filthy idea of spirituality, especially Christianity.

Because I can walk outside my house in my boxers to walk my dog and not get arrested.

Because I can own deadly weapons, and it's a protected right

Because I can form my own cult, the Cult of the sacred designated marksman, and it's a protected right

Because I can say whatever I want about the gov't, it's a protected right

Because I can go anywhere, it's a protected right

Because I can practice,create, form, divvide, or do whatever I want religious

Because I can protest whatever I want about the government

Because I can...do a lot of things

Nothing wrong with idols, as long as it’s healthy. Narcissism and materialism drive both the economy and individual success.
Plus, those things are slowly eating away at and will inevitably destroy the filthy idea of spirituality, especially Christianity.


Yes, because being spiritual makes one soooo unclean.:rolleyes:

Umm...I can get a free education as a female.
I can have whatever religion I want.
Capitalism.
And lots of good food.

Because I can own deadly weapons, and it's a protected right
Because I can form my own cult, the Cult of the sacred designated marksman, and it's a protected right

Because I can say whatever I want about the gov't, it's a protected right

Because I can go anywhere, it's a protected right

Because I can practice,create, form, divvide, or do whatever I want religious

Because I can protest whatever I want about the government

Because I can...do a lot of things

Deadly weapons? nope terrorism
Cults are protected? What about Waco?
Say you want to kill a member of the Gov't and see how long you are free
You can't go into top secret military bases now can you? :p
Can you do a lesser jihad? thats religious.
You have to buy a permit to protest don't you?
And you are also prohibited from doing a lot of things.

Deadly weapons? nope terrorism
Cults are protected? What about Waco?
Say you want to kill a member of the Gov't and see how long you are free
You can't go into top secret military bases now can you? :p
Can you do a lesser jihad? thats religious.
You have to buy a permit to protest don't you?
And you are also prohibited from doing a lot of things.
Sooo negative...someone needs a dose of love!

Sooo negative...someone needs a dose of love!


Hehe. Hey its fun pointing out these flaws. I get tired of blind patriotism. "we are the land of the free" BUT we have to abide by all these things, and if you say something too bad, well you can be put away..and so on...grr...:headbang:

Hehe. Hey its fun pointing out these flaws. I get tired of blind patriotism. "we are the land of the free" BUT we have to abide by all these things, and if you say something too bad, well you can be put away..and so on...grr...:headbang:
Better than no patriotism at all and collapsing like the Western Roman Empire.

All I have to say is that if you don't like it here, you're free to go, and even that is more than some countries can say.

All I have to say is that if you don't like it here, you're free to go, and even that is more than some countries can say.
like China!

Who doesn't love their country. Even the most oppressed will cite reasons why they love their country. So even though this question makes me kind of tired and want to lay down, I will answer it because what else you gonna do with a caffeine buzz?

I really love the vastness of the US, that you can drive all day and see such variety in climate and fauna. I live on the great plains, the Flint Hills of Kansas to be exact, which to me, is one of the most beautiful places on the planet. I have also live in central Texas near Austin and have a deep appreciation for the Hill Country of Texas and the Gulf Coast near South Padre Island. I also spent a year in South Florida, which despite the huge population of homeless and an over-abundance of senior citizens, is a tropical paradise. We had lizards like homes in the north might have mice. They were awesome. I miss the enormous ficus trees. =)

Notice that I have made no mention of loving my country's government. I think the whole Bush administration could jump down a shit hole and not be missed. If there is a meteor out there headed our way, I hope it hits Washington.

Better than no patriotism at all and collapsing like the Western Roman Empire.


Too bad this neo-roman/neo babylonian empire will crumble. And it will crumble soon. And i will be around to say "i told ya so"

Too bad this neo-roman/neo babylonian empire will crumble. And it will crumble soon. And i will be around to say "i told ya so"
Optimist much! Hopefully we won't all fall into poverty when it does.

Yes, because being spiritual makes one soooo unclean.:rolleyes:
It restricts the quest for pleasure and happiness, which is ultimately all that we have.

A wonderful fireworks display in D.C. as well as in Pittsburgh. Once again, both places done a job well done. I cannot wait for next year's shows.

Too bad this neo-roman/neo babylonian empire will crumble. And it will crumble soon. And i will be around to say "i told ya so"

Wow. That's only been said since the country was founded. :rolleyes:

Being the world's oldest Constitutional state has its advantages, stability being one of them.

The whole wheel is going to turn yet again on 21 January 2009, when the new President takes office.

BTW, if the US did crumble, so will the planetary economy. And I will be around to say "i told ya so".

A wonderful fireworks display in D.C. as well as in Pittsburgh. Once again, both places done a job well done. I cannot wait for next year's shows.

Indeed! NYC was awesome as usual. I seriously am considering paying the $130 next year to watch from the top of the Empire State: it's one of the very few places anywhere that you can watch fireworks explode at EYE level.

Saturday (the 8th) is Sailfest in New London, CT! They put on the same Grucci show as Manhattan, only slightly smaller due to the shape of the harbor. If anyone lives anywhere near south eastern Connecticut, I HIGHLY recommend going! http://www.sailfest.org/
(No tickets necessary, those are just for one venue. It's normal for people to pull up alongside I-95 to watch!)

All I have to say is that if you don't like it here, you're free to go, and even that is more than some countries can say.


*grin*
I'm sure we can do better 'n that in the UK.

If you don't like it, we just give you an ASBO.

Hehe. Hey its fun pointing out these flaws. I get tired of blind patriotism. "we are the land of the free" BUT we have to abide by all these things, and if you say something too bad, well you can be put away..and so on...grr...:headbang:
I challenge you to find one thing you can say that will get you "put away." Just one thing.

I challenge you to find one thing you can say that will get you "put away." Just one thing.The phrase "I want to kill the President" has been known to work, actually.

The phrase "I want to kill the President" has been known to work, actually.
Very funny. Ha. Ha. You're a regular laugh riot, you are. :rolleyes:

Very funny. Ha. Ha. You're a regular laugh riot, you are. :rolleyes:If you're not prepared for the answer, don't ask the question ;)

Very funny. Ha. Ha. You're a regular laugh riot, you are. :rolleyes:
Well it's the correct answer.

Who doesn't love their country. Even the most oppressed will cite reasons why they love their country. So even though this question makes me kind of tired and want to lay down, I will answer it because what else you gonna do with a caffeine buzz?

I really love the vastness of the US, that you can drive all day and see such variety in climate and fauna. I live on the great plains, the Flint Hills of Kansas to be exact, which to me, is one of the most beautiful places on the planet. I have also live in central Texas near Austin and have a deep appreciation for the Hill Country of Texas and the Gulf Coast near South Padre Island. I also spent a year in South Florida, which despite the huge population of homeless and an over-abundance of senior citizens, is a tropical paradise. We had lizards like homes in the north might have mice. They were awesome. I miss the enormous ficus trees. =)


That's really quite sweet. In fact, it's the nicest thing I've read all day. I'll go to bed on that :)