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The problem with this debate comes down to a simple point in my view.

Which would the world be more dramaticlally impacted by

Knowing for certianity how the world was created?

OR

Knowing for certianity why the world was created?

Why would the why be relevant?
Why would the how be relevant?

Why would the why be relevant?
Why would the how be relevant?


Damn you beat me to it, but to reiterate Bog's(can I call you that) point, yeah what he said!

Why would the why be relevant?
Why would the how be relevant?Indeed. Either way it's here, and we'll have to live with it.
Neither the how, why, when or where will change what is.

Well, ok, the how would be interesting from a scientific point of view.
And maybe we could create another one.

Damn you beat me to it, but to reiterate Bog's(can I call you that) point, yeah what he said!

It is really coincidental, but Bog is Russian for God... :p

I picked the name Bogmarsh to mean Ulster, but I can't always explain the whys and the hows of my subconscious.

It is really coincidental, but Bog is Russian for God... :p

I picked the name Bogmarsh to mean Ulster, but I can't always explain the whys and the hows of my subconscious.


Ahhh are you Irish? I love the Irish especily the wimmin folx, strong, fiesty, good lookin'. So I guess you know what the word bog means then over here in England! heheheh

Ahhh are you Irish? I love the Irish especily the wimmin folx, strong, fiesty, good lookin'. So I guess you know what the word bog means then over here in England! heheheh

I'm British.
I intended for BogMarsh to be an Ulster run by Ian Paisley -
but at the end of the day, I can't method-act a crazy fundamentalist.

*goes to crap in the bog*
See me soon in my new movie 'I'm not totally obsessed by Nazis, mein Fuhrer!'.

I'm British.
I intended for BogMarsh to be an Ulster run by Ian Paisley -
but at the end of the day, I can't method-act a crazy fundamentalist.

*goes to crap in the bog*
See me soon in my new movie 'I'm not totally obsessed by Nazis, mein Fuhrer!'.

Is he still alive? Shit I guess it's true that only the good die young, Muuuwhahahaha!

Why would the why be relevant?

Some people believe that their own morality will be dramatically impacted by the answer to this question. For those people, the "why" is very important.


Why would the how be relevant?
Well, for one thing, knowing how things come about is often very helpful for us as we try to learn how they work.

For instance, I'm currently studying the vestibular system in the ear. If you experience an injury to this system, you'll have a lot of trouble standing, walking, or moving around, because this system provides you with your orientation and balance. However, in a great many cases, if you experience an injury to this system you will recover over time. We want to understand how this recovery happens, because if we can figure that out then maybe we can figure out how to help the people who don't experience recovery on their own.

The interesting thing is that the recovery of function after injury appears to follow virtually the exact same pattern as we see in development. If we can learn how this system comes into existence in the first place, it helps us better understand how to repair it after injury or disease.

Knowing for certianity how the world was created?

OR

Knowing for certianity why the world was created?
The world wasn't created at all, both your questions are meaningless.

Now pick up a biology textbook and learn the slightest little bit about evolution before making another one of these stupid threads again.

The world wasn't created at all, both your questions are meaningless.

Now pick up a biology textbook and learn the slightest little bit about evolution before making another one of these stupid threads again.

remind us then why this is pointless as per your thread title - because you seem to have a point... or have i overdosed on coffee, yet again?

In my opinion - I'm here because my parents had sex, and i dont really like thinking about that - bit traumatic - and that for me is the how and the why :)

simplistic i know - but my head hurts - i'm having fluffle withdrawls

muwahahaha

remind us then why this is pointless as per your thread title - because you seem to have a point... or have i overdosed on coffee, yet again?
His thread title hardly fits with the initial post anyways. Especially since he says that the debate is pointless and neither question he asks will matter, but he states them both from the perspective of a creationist argument.

So in a way, he's really just saying that the creationist side of things is pointless.

His thread title hardly fits with the initial post anyways. Especially since he says that the debate is pointless and neither question he asks will matter, but he states them both from the perspective of a creationist argument.

So in a way, he's really just saying that the creationist side of things is pointless.

thank you for clarifying :D

The world wasn't created at all, both your questions are meaningless.

Now pick up a biology textbook and learn the slightest little bit about evolution before making another one of these stupid threads again.

So, you're telling us that the world was always here?

Oh, are we talking about 'world' as in Earth, or 'world' as in universe?

So, you're telling us that the world was always here?

Oh, are we talking about 'world' as in Earth, or 'world' as in universe?
I'm saying it wasn't created, it was formed. Created involves intent, formed does not.

The problem with this debate comes down to a simple point in my view.

Which would the world be more dramaticlally impacted by

Knowing for certianity how the world was created?

OR

Knowing for certianity why the world was created?

Why is pointless.

How is one of the most fundamentally important questions in all of human existence. The more we can understand how life progresses on Earth (and how the universe progresses in general) we can use that information to predict future changes and better understand ourselves through past changes, in order to make better lives for ourselves.

That is why creationism is worthless and evolution is extremely important.

Indeed. Either way it's here, and we'll have to live with it.
Neither the how, why, when or where will change what is.

If only we thought that way when it came to everything...like diseases.

If only we thought that way when it came to everything...like diseases.
Yeah, we'd all be dead of plague by now. I guess this debate wouldn't be occuring if we did that. :)

If only we thought that way when it came to everything...like diseases.
Problem is, it's quite difficult to live with alot of diseases. They have this annoying habit of killing people.

EDIT: Damn you Bottle.

EDIT: Damn you Bottle.
Mwa ha ha.

If only we thought that way when it came to everything...like diseases.Maybe I should have said "deal" instead of "live", but frankly, it should come down to the same thing. You live with it, you deal with it.

I always thought the evolution/creation debate was rather pointless because people who reject evolution today are like people who reject a round Earth today. It isn't like debating other things due to that. Its akin to debating if gravity is the result of nature or God holding us down.

And yes, people do still believe in a flat Earth:

Flat Earth Society (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_Society)

This is petition to ban all creationism vs. evolution threads on this site.

I always thought the evolution/creation debate was rather pointless because people who reject evolution today are like people who reject a round Earth today. It isn't like debating other things due to that. Its akin to debating if gravity is the result of nature or God holding us down.

And yes, people do still believe in a flat Earth:

Flat Earth Society (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_Society)

Until NASA sent them this picture: Images Link (http://www.creationofuniverse.com/1024/images/3_Earth-&-Moon_jpg.jpg)

Why would the why be relevant?
Why would the how be relevant?
Well the how would be relevant because it might shed some light on some of the things that happen in the universe that we don't currently understand, like how gravity works for example.