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could you ever join the army

I couldn't but could you

Nope, I am incapable of joining any branch of the military, sadly.

I could join, but I have no desire to, especially because I have first hand reports from friends who are in the military :p

I am as soon as I graduate college.

Naw. I would learn a lot from it, but I don't think its for me.

I would if I could, but they won't take me because I'm handicapped. Ah well.

I physically could, but I never will.

well i couldn't support a country who allows gay marriage (that's my opinion please dont report me i dont want to make a fourth nationstates account)

I physically could, but I never will.
physically but not mentally :p

No ... and I'm frankly insulted by the question.

I physically could, but I never will.
No kidding I have better things to do with my degrees then some piddly little officer

Yes, and I intend to after I graduate (I've got this space on my wall waiting for a certain fellow's head ;) )

Halfbreed']Yes, and I intend to after I graduate (I've got this space on my wall waiting for a certain fellow's head ;) )
make sure you eat their heart and gain their courage their rich tasty courage

Yes.
However I dropped Physical Education a while back, so I suppose I'd need to get in shape.

Yes.
However I dropped Physical Education a while back, so I suppose I'd need to get in shape.
get in shape and go kick uncle sam's ass for making you die for your country

make sure you eat their heart and gain their courage their rich tasty courage

Tastes just like chicken ;)

get in shape and go kick uncle sam's ass for making you die for your country

If he does the job right, then he WON'T have to die for his country. The other guy will.

Halfbreed']



If he does the job right, then he WON'T have to die for his country. The other guy will.
get those commies

well i couldn't support a country who allows gay marriage (that's my opinion please dont report me i dont want to make a fourth nationstates account)

Okay, that's your opinion. Welcome to it.

But you're a United States citizen, yes?

Do you buy and sell stuff here? Pay your taxes? Basically have an investment in economies both local and national?

Do you vote? Go to jury duty?

Then you support the US.

That's a good thing. That's something to be happy about. You don't have to like all of the laws or trends in common culture that the US has. And yet, you can participate in the process, even if you think the country's "culture" is evil or useless or whatever.

Because wartime rhetoric has us all turned about, we seem to have embraced an idea that "fighting" or "dying" for one's country is the only legitimate means of "supporting'" the country.

Parallel to that, I see a lot of silly bumper-sticker rhetoric that implies that those who "fight for the country" (soldiers) are more patriotic than others, by virtue of being soldiers. That, somehow, they are more invested in this country.

It's a short leap of illogic to next assume that the soldier is "more of a legitimate citizen" than everyone else. I hope we're not on our way to assuming that soldiers are a separate class from the rest of us.

It's not so. They are citizen soldiers, and in America, that means citizen first. And god bless 'em.

But anyhow, joining the Armed Forces doesn't suddenly mean you're "supporting the US", where before you "weren't supporting the US".

A bit behind the times aren't you? The commies were the 60s-80s.

Now we have to deal with the folks who want to cut off people's heads for believing different things. (They throw less interesting parties than the commies- no booze)

I will be starting my Royal Marines PRMC soon so yeah I guess I would and will

Halfbreed']Now we have to deal with the folks who want to cut off people's heads for believing different things. (They throw less interesting parties than the commies- no booze)

Yeah, and instead of some bogus paradise of perfect non-heirarchic government (paradoxically achieved by stultifying totalitarian cruelty), they want to "recreate" a comic-book, never-actually-existed version of the Ottoman Empire.

You know, those buttholes who decided the Armenian genocide was A-OK, went ahead with it, but then persisted in lying about whether it actually happened.

The War on terror may be a poorly-ordered, dubiously-concieved nightmare of political hypocrisy, run by rich assjacks who have shown no particular policy interest in the "nation-building" they talk about...

But then look at the scumbags on the other side.

Also rich assjacks.

Making poor, unlettered, scared kids do their fighting for them.

Often with no hope of even surviving, or seeing their families again.

It's enough to make you shit blood, puke snake venom and eat glass. What a world.

EDIT: Oh, yeah. No, I won't go in. I support my country by trying to get its young citizens to stop sniffing glue long enough to learn how to read.

And, I'd make a lousy soldier. I'd probably try to chew my DI's face off, out of rage at being yelled at, then he or she would rightly kick my teeth out the back of my asshole. Going into the Armed Forces likely equals going to the hospital and not much else.

get in shape and go kick uncle sam's ass for making you die for your country

I'm Canadian.
I doubt I'd even have to get in shape to join the Canadian army.

If I'm in shape by the end of the year I plan on joining the Army Reserve next year. Cut Lunch Commandos here I come.

http://www.army.gov.au/

I guess I could, but I have aversion to all that walking, having people screaming orders at me, and getting shot at.

I guess I could, but I have aversion to all that walking, having people screaming orders at me, and getting shot at.
That and wasting my other skills :) I would much preffer to do as now and work as an outside contractor

get those commies
Have you got a problem with commies? I bet you never knew that all the cool kids are communists.

No ... and I'm frankly insulted by the question.
Shut Up

:)

I'm Canadian.
I doubt I'd even have to get in shape to join the Canadian army.
Naw, they'd have fun doing it for ya.;)

I dunno if they'd accept me with my mental instabilities.

I'd join a rebel army to fight the federal government.....

I served about a third of my term...then started to get from bored to seriously bored. I mean, everybody with an IQ over 80 understands and can perform drills within a week. All of 'em. The rest is: ok, wait here. ........ now run.........now, wait here........now run - and: the rifle belongs 1.5 centimeter more to the left, private Wagner. Sir, yes, Sir...........Yaaaaaaaaawn. The best part of it was, as a stinger soldier, to play virtual reality games (you know, it's kind of expensive to shoot down our 26 FA-18A's. Hahaha.). That was fun!

I was an anti-army person before I served and now even more. In our case (Switzerland), army is just a stupid way of squandering a sensles amount of money. Have the Europeans and Americans protect us! We have all their dirty money! ;) No, seriously: whoever would attack Switzerland would either have beaten the European Union armies (which means we wouldn't stand a chance) or be a united European Union army (which means we wouldn't stand a chance). Why waste money? Spend more money on civ protection, disaster relieve and police...abolish the army. One of the few things that I say with pride if I talk about Switzerland is, that we voted (twice!) to abloish our army. The bad thing about democracy is, that I always lose!

Nope. I'm too old, too gay, and too disabled. Just as well. I wouldn't care to join anyway.

get those commies
I can only hope you're joking.

I served about a third of my term...then started to get from bored to seriously bored. I mean, everybody with an IQ over 80 understands and can perform drills within a week. All of 'em. The rest is: ok, wait here. ........ now run.........now, wait here........now run - and: the rifle belongs 1.5 centimeter more to the left, private Wagner. Sir, yes, Sir...........Yaaaaaaaaawn. The best part of it was, as a stinger soldier, to play virtual reality games (you know, it's kind of expensive to shoot down our 26 FA-18A's. Hahaha.). That was fun!

I was an anti-army person before I served and now even more. In our case (Switzerland), army is just a stupid way of squandering a sensles amount of money. Have the Europeans and Americans protect us! We have all their dirty money! ;) No, seriously: whoever would attack Switzerland would either have beaten the European Union armies (which means we wouldn't stand a chance) or be a united European Union army (which means we wouldn't stand a chance). Why waste money? Spend more money on civ protection, disaster relieve and police...abolish the army. One of the few things that I say with pride if I talk about Switzerland is, that we voted (twice!) to abloish our army. The bad thing about democracy is, that I always lose!
I thought that in Switzerland, everyone had to keep a Steyr AUG in their house to defend against attackers :confused:

Or does (or did) Switzerland have a proffesional army too?

I thought that in Switzerland, everyone had to keep a Steyr AUG in their house to defend against attackers :confused:

Or does (or did) Switzerland have a proffesional army too?
Switzerland has the largest standing army in the world, as all eligible men are considered to be on call at all times.

SNIP

but who will protect the pope if not the swiss?

Yootopia: If you're serving you have the rifle at home, yes. And no, we don't have a professional army. There guys called Instructors, which are specialists teaching specific things - they are professionals. But as far as I know, none of combat troops are professionals. Maybe pilots? Dunno.

Philosopy: That's poo-poo. Switzerland has around 220'000 men in service, incl the reserve. That still makes a fairly big army per capita (it used to be over 500/k, which I believe was the largest per capita) but is nothing compared to North Korea (apparently 1 mio) or China (in 2003: 2.3 million).

And the Pope...isn't God protecting him? What does he need the Swiss for. ;)

could you ever join the army
No. To old.

could you ever join the army

I couldn't but could youIf I lied about them denying me when they drafted me, maybe.

I could...but I'm gonna join the Royal Australian Air Force. Sure beats living in holes for weeks. Not that I dislike service in the field, just that well, I have about double the GI IQ. Easily.

could you ever join the army

I couldn't but could you

no, I hate fake authority and my iq is too high

Yeah, I actually have considered joining the military, fighting for my country would be an honor, though I am conservative, watch war movies, read war books, belong to Military.com, and constantly watch videos of the Iraq War, Shock and Awe was an awsome sight.

I served in the Swedish army as per military service... actually, I still have some good friends from the time.

These days though, due to military spending cut backs, they only call up around a third or less of the age group due for military service.

I could join very easily.
Heck NZ now have an Anti-Tank system.:eek:

Nope.

I went to in my youth but coz I have only one kidney they said no. Luckyiest escape of my life, now of course I have told my kids the can join up over my dead body.

Living in a country with compulsory military service (or actually one can also serve for a longer time in some civilian crap or just go to jail but oh well), yeah. If it wasn't compulsory? Yeah.

Propably wouldn't if I lived in the US though, not exactly interested in getting shot on the other side of the globe because some stupid politician needs cheap fuel for his car.

could you ever join the army

I couldn't but could you

already joined, served, and went back to being a civilian.

im in the army reserve. but i dont think id be arsed enough to join the army ( assuming Irelands forces can be called an army) unless of course, the world was attacked my aliens. a giant crab tank thing. or my country was occupied

or my country was occupied

I love the way we Irish always add that bit in, and the Americans hardly ever do.

already joined, served, and went back to being a civilian.
I salute you

Nope. I'm too old, too gay, and too disabled. Just as well. I wouldn't care to join anyway.you just have all sorts of problems dont ya

but who will protect the pope if not the swiss?
the pope is overrated

no, I hate fake authority and my iq is too high
sure

no, I hate fake authority and my iq is too high

Either you are Authority of your own accord - or you merely exist to OBEY authority.

Yours is not to make reply
Yours is not to question why
Yours is to obey -
or in agony die.

ban gay marriages and i will fight for my country

I would like to.

I will be starting my Royal Marines PRMC soon so yeah I guess I would and will

I wish Yuo luck and hope your one few that pases.

As for me Iam too old to join the Army expect the TA but iam Joining the RNVR

I could, but the one thing that might hold me back from ever participating in combat are my glasses. I'd probably get placed in some sort of support role, or have my glasses replaced with those oversized thick-rimmed ones I sometimes see soldiers wearing.

I already AM all that I can be.

This is it.

It doesn't get any better than this.

...


I need a drink. :(

I could, but the one thing that might hold me back from ever participating in combat are my glasses. I'd probably get placed in some sort of support role, or have my glasses replaced with those oversized thick-rimmed ones I sometimes see soldiers wearing.
put them things in the sun you got yourself a death ray

I could, but the one thing that might hold me back from ever participating in combat are my glasses. I'd probably get placed in some sort of support role, or have my glasses replaced with those oversized thick-rimmed ones I sometimes see soldiers wearing.

They're called BC(Birth Control) Goggles. Because wearing them is the best way to be sure you'll never have sex. :)

I would (if they take me) if I was at home. But only because as a conscript I would be guaranteed not to be shipped away to fight somewhere.
If there was a chance that they might actually send me into crisis situations, I wouldn't join. I have no patriotic ambitions, I'd only do it for the fun and excitement for a few months.

Either you are Authority of your own accord - or you merely exist to OBEY authority.

Yours is not to make reply
Yours is not to question why
Yours is to obey -
or in agony die.

"Is your mind so small that you have to fall in, with the pack wherever they run?
Will you still sneer, when death is near, and say that you may as well worship the sun?"

-Black Sabbath.

"Is your mind so small that you have to fall in, with the pack wherever they run?
Will you still sneer, when death is near, and say that you may as well worship the sun?"

-Black Sabbath.


What is the sun around which everything is ordered?

I don't really hate freedom.
I merely think it is an entirely nonsensical proposition, like phlogiston.

Would I join?

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. I'm now going to college, largely on Uncle Sam's dime.

What is the sun around which everything is ordered?

I don't really hate freedom.
I merely think it is an entirely nonsensical proposition, like phlogiston.

Hah! Who says phlogiston doesn't exist? It's just that sometime it has negative mass. That's all.

Switzerland has the largest standing army in the world, as all eligible men are considered to be on call at all times.
Forget China?

could you ever join the army

I couldn't but could you

No! I don't like sleeping in the mud and walking in the rain. That's why I joined the Air Force.

I got drafted, denied service (conscious objector), and did civil service as a paramedic instead. Best choice ever!

I got drafted, denied service (conscious objector), and did civil service as a paramedic instead. Best choice ever!

That's great. Are you still a paramedic or going to school to get some type of meidcal degree?

No! I don't like sleeping in the mud and walking in the rain. That's why I joined the Air Force.

There is no rain. There is only mud and shit. That's why I joined the infantry, so I could get really dirty and smelly.

Try rolling around in all that stuff, and not taking a bath for 65 days.

There is no rain. There is only mud and shit. That's why I joined the infantry, so I could get really dirty and smelly.

Try rolling around in all that stuff, and not taking a bath for 65 days.

Go Air Force. Dry beds, very few MRE's, showers, clean clothes, and fly instead of walk. Only way to go.

A Haiku by Erehpsnogov:

The Army
Could you ever join the army
I couldn't but could you

Though the syllables are off, one of the best I've seen on NS.

6 yrs active Navy
3 yrs Natl Guard
1.5 yrs (and counting) Army Reserve

no, I hate fake authority and my iq is too high

You ever get lonely up there on your pedestal?

I could join very easily.
Heck NZ now have an Anti-Tank system.:eek:

Are you that impressed by the Javelin? :p

I don't plan to but it's a possibility I keep open.

That's great. Are you still a paramedic or going to school to get some type of meidcal degree?
No. I didn't keep up with the medical training. Our paramedic licenses expire after two years of inactivity, and while I considered becoming an MD while doing the job, I didn't want that kind of responsibility.
I'm at university right now, majoring in English & Biology to become a German highschool teacher. That suits me better. :D

(I did, however, work as a paramedic the year after I finished the service but they screwed me over with the payment, which then pretty much closed that case once and for all.)

I'm working my way through AFROTC, does that count?