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The polls have closed in Mexico City and most of the country, with only the western states and Baja California still open. So far, the two front runners are so close to each other it's being called a tie.

Andrés Manuel López Obrador is a left leaning populist ideologically, perhaps closer to Lula DaSilva than Chávez, but in between those two, has a very strong follower base amongst the poor but his economic policies are iffy at best. He has called for the renegotiation of NAFTA, reinforcing state control over certain industries, and increased social spending.

Felipe Calderón Hinojosa is a right leaning populist, from the same party as the current president, Vicente Fox, and will probably continue the same economic policies which are solid but haven't benefited the population that much.

The other four candidates don't have that much chance of winning.

Total vote count should be done by Tuesday or Wednesday. It is likely that the preliminary count won't reveal a winner. In Mexico the candidate with the most votes wins. It's one six-year term only.

Mexican elections.. sounds like a euthamism.

Liasia']sounds like a euthamism.
Euthamism? :confused:

Andrés Manuel López Obrador is a left leaning populist ideologically, perhaps closer to Lula DaSilva than Chávez, but in between those two, has a very strong follower base amongst the poor but his economic policies are iffy at best. He has called for the renegotiation of NAFTA, reinforcing state control over certain industries, and increased social spending..

Because we all know how well Pemex is working under state control...they'll be flat out of oil in a decade because they've mismanaged the oil sector so badly and are so endemically corrupt. Populism is the road to economic disaster and poverty and has always been...I hope for Mexico's sake that they don't allow this failed ideology back in to influence.

Euthamism? :confused:
It's spelt wrong. It means like 'choking the bishop' or 'kicking the bucket'. Referring to something a bit taboo with an inoffensive (if stupid) phrase.

Because we all know how well Pemex is working under state control...they'll be flat out of oil in a decade because they've mismanaged the oil sector so badly and are so endemically corrupt. Populism is the road to economic disaster and poverty and has always been...I hope for Mexico's sake that they don't allow this failed ideology back in to influence.

Tax cuts can be as populist as any other policy. I attach populism as an irresponsible act of government to obtain popular appeal. I believe the government has a responsibility to the impoverished.

Having said this I hope the future leadership of Mexico can follow Vicente Fox's line of policy. Democratizing the economy.

Liasia']It's spelt wrong. It means like 'choking the bishop' or 'kicking the bucket'. Referring to something a bit taboo with an inoffensive (if stupid) phrase.
Eufemism! ;)

I can assure you that after 70 years of corrupt elections and through the work of the last 18 years, the Mexican federal electoral system is one of the most advanced and bullet-proof in the world. It will be very hard for anyone to commit fraud or to dispute the results.

Eufemism! ;)

I can assure you that after 70 years of corrupt elections and through the work of the last 18 years, the Mexican federal electoral system is one of the most advanced and bullet-proof in the world. It will be very hard for anyone to commit fraud or to dispute the results.
I was thinking more along the lines of 'mexican election.. sounds like what someone might say to discreetly describe masturbation'. But suit yourself:p

Tax cuts can be as populist as any other policy. I attach populism as an irresponsible act of government to obtain popular appeal. I believe the government has a responsibility to the impoverished.

Populism is deceiving the people through bribery and demogoguery, and a useless tax cut is as much a part of it as anything else.

Having said this I hope the future leadership of Mexico can follow Vicente Fox's line of policy. Democratizing the economy.

Hopefully.

Fox has done many great things. Provided Mexico with good government for a change and he has not set the newly created wealth and oportunity coming from NAFTA to waste. Mexico naturally has severe problems but the outlook is much better than it was before Fox.

Regarding populism, I'm assuming Vetalia that we can agree that the dictionary's definition of populism needs updating.

"A political philosophy supporting the rights and power of the people in their struggle against the privileged elite."

I don't think it has anything to do with overthrowing elites.

The first results from the fast count start giving an advantage to Felipe Calderón, but many parts of the country still have to report.

http://www.reforma.com

Has Fox News prematurely called Jalisco for Hinojosa yet and, thus, declaring him President?

Has Fox News prematurely called Jalisco for Hinojosa yet and, thus, declaring him President?
No :)
So far Calderón Hinojosa is ahead in Jalisco, but it doesn't matter all that much since it's the popular vote that counts over here.

Meanwhile, the leftist party that Mr Obrador represents has kept power of the local government in Mexico City.

The quick count reports almost 1/3 of the polls, and it's still too close to call. Although Felipe Calderón still has a slight advantage, he has slipped from a relatively comfortable 4.5 points lead to a very nerve-wrecking 2.7 and continues to slip.

With a bit over 55% of the polls reported in the quick count, the two pointers are now less than 2 points from each other and closing.

The fast count has been completed now for 2/3 of the polls. The lead of Felipe Calderón over Manuel López Obrador is of just 1.1%

The Federal Electoral Institute has said that they won't give an official pronouncement until Wednesday, when all votes have been counted.

I'm turning in for the night. I'll check on the preliminary results in the morning, afternoon, whenever I wake up. Meanwhile, they're less than 1 point from each other, and about 30% of the polls to count.

Remember these are only the preliminary results. Votes are being physically counted as we speak and the official results will be announced on Wednesday.

With 95 % in , By 500,000 votes the conservative Felipe Calderón has won the election. Ermmmmm....According to Yahoo news.

Latest is that both are declaring victory w/ the election commision not releasing official results until they tally everything starting wednesday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060703/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/mexico_elections;_ylt=Amzk8oiEpliPJQYQcrv3xm.s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--

The fast count now includes over 98% of the votes and Calderón is still ahead, although only by .98%

Calderón has already called the election, but López Obrador says he'll wait for the official results. Officially, no winner has been declared.

Very close but I'm kind of proud of Mexico right now...they have really changed from the bad old days of not so long ago .


Viva la Mexicano 's viva mexico !

They have started counting the voting acts (the summaries from each polling station), which are what counts for the official result.

So far, with 82.42% counted, López Obrador (PRD) has 36.6% against Calderón's (PAN) 34.71%, in opposition to what the preliminary results indicated on Sunday! :eek:

PAN is accusing PRD of slowing down the counting in places where Calderón has an advantage. The Electoral authority says that no result is official until everything has been counted. There may still be a vote recount.

Hey I'm pretty proud of Mexico, too. This has all the elements of Election 2000 in the US that, in many countries, would result in bloodshed. Mexico's showing the world that they are civilised and handling this admirably.

I like it!

Huge thumbs way, way up, regardless of the outcome.

I do so love Democracy. YAY DEMOCRACY!

Hey I'm pretty proud of Mexico, too. This has all the elements of Election 2000 in the US that, in many countries, would result in bloodshed. Mexico's showing the world that they are civilised and handling this admirably.
I hope there is no big incident, but it worries me that López Obrador will try something like movilizing people or worse to try to pressure the electoral authorities to rule in his favor.

But I hope he can be a big man in case he loses.

Although there are about 800 polling stations to confirm, all of them are in favour of Felipe Calderón, who took the lead from Andrés López Obrador in the early morning hours. With just 0.26% difference the PAN candidate is announcing his victory. The PRD will still ask for every vote to be counted and they have called for a press conference at 8:30 Mexico City time.

The official count has finished and the winner is Felipe Calderón by a margin of .57%

López Obrador says he will ask for a recount of each individual vote before the Federal Electoral Tribunal and will start movilizing people.

A vote by vote count could be finished by August 31 and the Electoral Tribunal has to announce a decision by September 6.

That sucks if it will take that long. I was really sort of curious how this would end up. Oh well, at least they are significantly more democratic now than in the past.