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Source: http://www.deathwithdignity.org/news/news/california.asp

And Wesley J Smith, a supposedly secular anti-choicer, brags about increasing suffering.

http://www.wesleyjsmith.com/blog/2006/06/assisted-suicide-goes-down-to-deserved.html#comments

I encourage all of you to post comments.

I have already added a comment. It's extreme, but desperate people do desperate things.

Perhaps we should point out the hypocrisy and inconsistency that the anti-choice "alliance" has deeper pockets, and that true compassion relieves pain and does not cut palliative care budgets.

If Wesley ever gets bone cancer, I'm pretty sure he'll change his mind.

If Wesley ever gets bone cancer, I'm pretty sure he'll change his mind.

And I hope he does.

I would treat him thusly:

Ethical Ways to treat Pro-lifers in Hospices

1. Administer a paralytic drug to the anti-choicer, while being sure they can still breathe on their own. This will prevent them from screaming in pain while feeling every ounce of their pain.

2. Close their eyes to give visitors, family and carers the false impression that they are not in pain.

3. Cease administering the drug every week to let them speak, and see if they still believe in "life at all costs".

Meh, sucks to be Californian I guess. *shrug*

Meh, sucks to be Californian I guess. *shrug*
Not normally (as I sit outside under the shade of the redwoods with a nice sea breeze) but this does suck.

Not normally (as I sit outside under the shade of the redwoods with a nice sea breeze) but this does suck.

Yeah. I want WJS to get AIDS or cancer.

In many cases, the pain medication kills the patient, not the cancer. Cancer is a slow and horrific disease, especially in its final stages.

As an example:

http://www.exitinternational.net/esther_wild.htm

"With the law gone Esther had little choice but to subject herself to the gradual process of slow euthanasia (terminal sedation). Esther took four days to die, waking frequently as her body seemed immune to the amount of morphine need for her gpainh.

This long and drawn out process was almost too much for her partner Martin who, at one point, demanded gthe bloody drugs. If you donft do something Ifll bloody do ith. It took all my powers of persuasion to stop him taking the law into his own hands."

And I hope he does.

I would treat him thusly:
How very ... enlightened of you. :rolleyes:

And I hope he does.

I would treat him thusly:
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My mother was a CEO of a hospice here in NZ. They are about making the last weeks/days whatever of a persons life as comfortable as possible.

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My mother was a CEO of a hospice here in NZ. They are about making the last weeks/days whatever of a persons life as comfortable as possible.
Hospice people do great work. My hat's off to your mother.

Hospice people do great work. My hat's off to your mother.
Thanks. I'll pass that on, heh.

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My mother was a CEO of a hospice here in NZ. They are about making the last weeks/days whatever of a persons life as comfortable as possible.

That's very admirable, but this is the best we can do for some people in Australia, sadly:

http://www.exitinternational.net/maxwell_bell.htm

http://www.exitinternational.net/esther_wild.htm

The conservatives don't care about the votes of those who are too weak to vote or who will die soon anyway.