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I was just curious to see how many people know who this man is and what he is famous for, but overshadowed by his better-known collaborator. If no one knows after a few posts, I will tell you. Please no cheating tho (no googling, wikipedia, etc).

What man?

What man?
If you have to ask ...

I was just curious to see how many people know who this man is and what he is famous for, but overshadowed by his better-known collaborator. If no one knows after a few posts, I will tell you. Please no cheating tho (no googling, wikipedia, etc).

Um - John Doe - given that it is a person about which we know nothing.

Friedrich Engels was the co-author of the Communist Manifesto.

Author of the Communist Manifesto.

Co-Author of the Communist Manifesto.

Marx did write parts of it too, I'm sure.

I guess the shame of it all has left Mr A. speechless.

Yeah, he lives down the road from me.

Marx did write parts of it too, I'm sure.

Marx put his name to it, but the writing style is certainly not that of Karl - so it was written by Engels, with how much assistance from Marx I guess only they will ever know.

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god i`hate his umm...*tries not to give it away* co-thinker just as much!:gundge:

It scares me that there are people who don't know who Engels is.

FTR he was the financial backing and philosophical partner of Karl Marx.

Someone who didn't like free trade (http://www.marx.org/archive/marx/works/1847/06/01.htm). Internationalist my arse.

One of the two guys who promised poor people the world, but never explained quite how it was going to happen. The result: people did what they asked and revolted, and then didn't know what to do next...and what followed is history.

That was the central failing of the two. Not the Labour Theory of Value, not the division of society into classes, not their call for violent revolution - but that they never even bothered to explain how greater control and centralisation would eliminate control and centralisation. And that left "good people" like Lenin with trying to think of something himself, and "bad people" like Mao and Pol Pot to do the same.

Atleast I"m not the only one who didn't know who he was... I feel rather uninformed now :(

It scares me that there are people who don't know who Engels is.

FTR he was the financial backing and philosophical partner of Karl Marx.

Yep! Just like there are people who don't know T.R. from F.D.R... :(

For a second I thought he was that 19th century guy who got jailed for writing bad things about a politician (which happened to be true), but that was... Zimmerman? Maybe?

Anyway, the "collaborator" clue tipped me off. Wasn't he Karl Marx's partner in crime? Marx and Engels? The founders of Communism?

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god i`hate his umm...*tries not to give it away* co-thinker just as much!:gundge:

Amen.

He's a dirty commie!

He's a dirty commie!

Also Amen.

Friedrich Engels was one of the Marx brothers. I believe he played Harpo.

Yep! Just like there are people who don't know T.R. from F.D.R... :(
Ted Rogers?

Ted Rogers?

QED.

A political writer, a good one indeed. He was with Marx the creator of the dialectic materialism, not communism, one of the best social explaining theories, even two hundred years later.
And his way of writing was much more amusing than Marx one. :p

Ps: I don't know who is T.R. from FDR (I guess this last one is Roosevelt, but the good one, you know new deal and so), can you tell me
?

Yea I know that guy.

He also wrote 'Condition of the Working Class in England in 1844'

Good read, that.

I knew the guys name, but I couldn't remember exactly what he'd done...

Ah know who he was.
Too bad they didn't put him in Brideswell.

In a politically themed forum did you think you where going to get that many people who didn't know who he was?

Isn't he the man behind the curtain?

Who is Karl Marx?

He was friends with Moses Hess and in with Marx

Engels, of Marx and. No, I didn't look. *g*

Ok, well it seems pointless now since everyone has stated who Engels is, but I know who he is.

Co-writer of the Communist Manifesto!!! What do I win, what do I win?

For a second I thought he was that 19th century guy who got jailed for writing bad things about a politician (which happened to be true), but that was... Zimmerman? Maybe?

"(T)hat 19th century guy who got jailed for writing bad things about a politician"
is pretty vaugue... And the two Zimmermans I could think of - Arthur Zimmermann or Robert Allen Zimmerman - definately don't fit the description.

Ps: I don't know who is T.R. from FDR (I guess this last one is Roosevelt, but the good one, you know new deal and so), can you tell me?

T.R. was the good one - Nobel Peace prize, big stick, square deal, national parks, FDA, Panama, etc. F.D.R. was the bad one - the New Deal (http://www.cato.org/dailys/12-29-03.html) is just one example of his economic harm.

who is the man...Günther is the pleasureman.

T.R. was the good one - Nobel Peace prize, big stick, square deal, national parks, FDA, Panama, etc. F.D.R. was the bad one - the New Deal (http://www.cato.org/dailys/12-29-03.html) is just one example of his economic harm.

Very good explination, though recent prizes have made getting a Nobel Peace Prize nothing to brag about.

As for the New Deal, it, in my opinion, brought about most of the problems which we are suffering today.