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Interesting Bit of History

Kryozerkia
28-06-2006, 22:23
It was 1987. At a lecture the other day they were playing an old news video of Lt. Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration.

There was Ollie, in front of God and country, getting the third degree but what he said was stunning!

He was being drilled by a senator; "Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?"

Ollie replied, "Yes, I did, Sir."

The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, "Isn't that just a little excessive?"

"No, sir," continued Ollie.

"No? And why not?" the senator asked.

"Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir."

"Threatened? By whom?" the senator questioned.

"By a terrorist, sir" Ollie answered.

"Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?"

"His name is Osama bin Laden, sir" Ollie replied.

At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued. Why are you so afraid of this man?" the senator asked.

"Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of", Ollie answered.

"And what do you recommend we do about him?" asked the senator.

"Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth."

The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip.

By the way, that senator was Al Gore!


Also:

Terrorist pilot Mohammad Atta blew up a bus in Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called "political prisoners."

However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their hands. The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, "insisted" that all prisoners be released.

Thus Mohammad Atta was freed and eventually thanked the US by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center. This was reported by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified. It was censored in the US from all later reports.

If you agree that the American public should be made aware of this fact, pass this on.

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I got this in an email today.

It sounds relatively valid so, I'd thought I'd share because it's NOT filled with crackpot conspiracy-theorists paranoia.

I welcome any attempts to prove this wrong, since this is part of history and helped formed a viable part of the enemies who are the target of the War on Terror.
Vetalia
28-06-2006, 22:27
It sounds relatively valid so, I'd thought I'd share because it's NOT filled with crackpot conspiracy-theorists paranoia.

I welcome any attempts to prove this wrong, since this is part of history and helped formed a viable part of the enemies who are the target of the War on Terror.

It's not; the testimony in 1987 was about the Palestinian terrorist Abu Naidal who had made death threats against North for his involvement in the airstrikes against Libya following According to the U.S. Senate Web site, North was in fact questioned by committee counsel John Nields, not a senator.

Here's Ollie North himself setting the record straight (http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/ollienorth/2004/10/22/13417.html)
Kecibukia
28-06-2006, 22:28
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/ollienorth-osama.htm

http://www.truthminers.com/hoaxarticles/atta.htm
Outcast Jesuits
28-06-2006, 22:28
Al Gore's a dumbass.
I figured I'd be blunt.
Tactical Grace
28-06-2006, 22:31
http://cnparm.home.texas.net/911/Backg/Rumsfeld-Saddam.jpg

If you agree that the American public should be made aware of this fact, pass this on.
The Black Forrest
28-06-2006, 22:37
Wow. Al must be a serious contender if they are already digging for crap.
Barbaric Tribes
28-06-2006, 22:42
fuck al-gore, he is the biggest piece of shit ever. he's more incompotent than Dick Cheney....and that is saying ALLOT.
Vetalia
28-06-2006, 22:43
Wow. Al must be a serious contender if they are already digging for crap.

Good point...next they'll be digging up the Buddhist temple incident. Doesn't bug me, though seeing as how I like Al Gore and I'd vote for him if he ran.
Druidville
28-06-2006, 22:56
I suspect Snopes is behind this, to drive visitors to their site. :D
Desperate Measures
28-06-2006, 22:57
fuck al-gore, he is the biggest piece of shit ever. he's more incompotent than Dick Cheney....and that is saying ALLOT.
Al`lot´
v. t. 1. To distribute by lot.
[imp. & p. p. Allotted; p. pr. & vb. n. Allotting.]
2. To distribute, or parcel out in parts or portions; or to distribute to each individual concerned; to assign as a share or lot; to set apart as one's share; to bestow on; to grant; to appoint; as, let every man be contented with that which Providence allots him.
Ten years I will allot to the attainment of knowledge.
- Johnson.
The Ogiek People
28-06-2006, 22:58
More urban myths.
Keruvalia
28-06-2006, 23:18
I love the people who jump up and down on Al Gore over a false story.

Foot, meet Mouth. Mouth, this is Foot. Ya'll will get along great!
Kryozerkia
28-06-2006, 23:22
More urban myths.
That's why I said I welcome any attempt to prove this wrong... :rolleyes:

I guess people don't really read the WHOLE story any more these days.

And no, I'm a socialist and I could care less about the Republicans.
Nural
28-06-2006, 23:31
Whenever I get one of these types of emails, I check urban legends sites to see if it is true or not. If false, I reply to the sender with links detailing how the email was incorrect.
Free Soviets
28-06-2006, 23:34
I got this in an email today.

don't you people ever get tired of getting completely burned by these things? have you ever encountered any that actually weren't lies or grossly misleading somehow?
Nural
28-06-2006, 23:43
don't you people ever get tired of getting completely burned by these things? have you ever encountered any that actually weren't lies or grossly misleading somehow?"Every time you masturbate God kills a kitten." Or are you trying to tell me that is a lie?
The Ogiek People
28-06-2006, 23:47
That's why I said I welcome any attempt to prove this wrong... :rolleyes:

I guess people don't really read the WHOLE story any more these days.

And no, I'm a socialist and I could care less about the Republicans.

Why don't YOU try reading into stories that you get through random email rather than perpetuating this crap?
Poopistra
29-06-2006, 00:53
At least AL Gore is trying to fix current problems... not create new ones
NERVUN
29-06-2006, 00:58
I suspect Snopes is behind this, to drive visitors to their site. :D
You know, I didn't notice the Snopes one in the sites already presented. So for a full set: http://www.snopes.com/rumors/north.asp
IL Ruffino
29-06-2006, 01:22
Dems never know how to handle terrorism, that's why I never vote for them.

Republicans are good for America.
Free Soviets
29-06-2006, 01:26
don't you people ever get tired of getting completely burned by these things? have you ever encountered any that actually weren't lies or grossly misleading somehow?

serious questions, btw
Assis
29-06-2006, 01:27
http://cnparm.home.texas.net/911/Backg/Rumsfeld-Saddam.jpg

If you agree that the American public should be made aware of this fact, pass this on.
that is so obviously a fake. you can clearly see the person on the right is a woman, not saddam. :D
Ultraextreme Sanity
29-06-2006, 01:31
you do know that this is a bullshit story passed around on the internet ?



Check facts like Bin Laden was in Afghanistan fighting soviets with US backing at the time .
Free Soviets
29-06-2006, 01:34
you do know that this is a bullshit story passed around on the internet ?

Check facts like Bin Laden was in Afghanistan fighting soviets with US backing at the time .

bah, facts. you can prove anything that's even remotely true with facts.
The Dangerous Maybe
29-06-2006, 01:47
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I got this e-mail today, and it looks pretty valid, so I am rounding up my bank information.

I expect that you will be civil and not steal my good fortune.
Vetalia
29-06-2006, 01:49
I got this e-mail today, and it looks pretty valid, so I am rounding up my bank information. I expect that you will be civil and not steal my good fortune.

Hey, it was sent by a doctor so it has to be valid.
The Dangerous Maybe
29-06-2006, 01:53
Hey, it was sent by a doctor so it has to be valid.

I hope he doesn't frequent NS General, he might get mad that I kind of let the cat out of the bag.
Demented Hamsters
29-06-2006, 01:58
Don't you love these urban myths.
This was doing the rounds 6 years ago, coincidently. Guess there's some GOPs out there who are getting worried 'bout Gore's intentions.

Brings up an interesting point: Has anyone ever come across a political urban myth that doesn't implicitly slag off the Democrats? One that slags off GOP?
WangWee
29-06-2006, 01:58
I got this e-mail today, and it looks pretty valid, so I am rounding up my bank information.

I expect that you will be civil and not steal my good fortune.

I think he may be the same doctor who sent me an email on how I can enlarge my penis with pills made from penguin pheromones.
Demented Hamsters
29-06-2006, 02:00
I hope he doesn't frequent NS General, he might get mad that I kind of let the cat out of the bag.
Hey! Why not show a bit of consideration to your fellow NS'ers?
We're all friends here aren't we?

Let us all in on the deal! We'll all send our details to you, you fwd them on and we all get a piece of the pie.

Shame on you for being so selfish and wanting to keep it all for yourself.
Teh_pantless_hero
29-06-2006, 02:02
Oh look, pointless partisan hackery, on nationstates even! I am shocked and appalled :rolleyes:
The Dangerous Maybe
29-06-2006, 02:05
Hey! Why not show a bit of consideration to your fellow NS'ers?
We're all friends here aren't we?

Let us all in on the deal! We'll all send our details to you, you fwd them on and we all get a piece of the pie.

Shame on you for being so selfish and wanting to keep it all for yourself.

Since you have shamed me into it, TG me your bank's name and routing number along with your account number, and I will make sure you get your share.
Bogstonia
29-06-2006, 02:09
So I know this guy called Steve Jones.
He is the most evil person I know. I recommend we form a super-death-kill-squad and go get him. You better do it too, otherwise in 20 years he'll do some bad stuff and then people will send e-mails around about it and blame you guys. Trust me, I've got a crystal ball and shit.
Freising
29-06-2006, 02:10
you do know that this is a bullshit story passed around on the internet ?



Check facts like Bin Laden was in Afghanistan fighting soviets with US backing at the time .

That was in the 70's. This incident was in the late 80's.
IL Ruffino
29-06-2006, 02:16
Since you have shamed me into it, TG me your bank's name and routing number along with your account number, and I will make sure you get your share.
Done.