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My friend and I often discuss which is better: to be the Ruler of the Nerds, or the lowest of the normal. Highest of the low, or lowest of the high. I want to see what NS thinks about this. Post why you think it's better.
I find that it's more useful being Ruler of the nerds because my nerds basically do my bidding and my dirty work when I don't feel like doing it.

Well seeing as one is Bill Gates and the other is some popular bloke down the pub, I think the question answers itself. :)

My friend and I often discuss which is better: to be the Ruler of the Nerds, or the lowest of the normal. Highest of the low, or lowest of the high. I want to see what NS thinks about this. Post why you think it's better.
I find that it's more useful being Ruler of the nerds because my nerds basically do my bidding and my dirty work when I don't feel like doing it.

Umm... you messed up. You want highest of the low or lowest of the high. In that case, the options are Ruler of the normal, or lowest of the Nerds.

I've seen folks argue for the other, despite the obviousness of it.

Umm... you messed up. You want highest of the low or lowest of the high. In that case, the options are Ruler of the normal, or lowest of the Nerds.
Not according to popular consensus. According to Nerds, yes, but the majority finds Nerds lower because they are more anti-social.

I already am ruler of the Nerds.

I already am ruler of the Nerds.
I rebel!!! Power to the people!!

Why does nerds = lowest?

Why does nerds = lowest?
It's unfortunate, but I go by normal standards. Nerds are lowest in social activities. Most nerds don't exactly spend their time doing the coolest of things according to the leaders of popular society.

I'd love to be ruler of the nerds! It's my life long dream!

I'd love to be ruler of the nerds! It's my life long dream!
You shall lose!!! It's my destiny!!!

I rebel!!! Power to the people!!

But I'm such a good leader ...

Oh well ... usurped before I even had a chance to show off my crown.

Maybe next lifetime.

But I'm such a good leader ...

Oh well ... usurped before I even had a chance to show off my crown.

Maybe next lifetime.
Sorry...here's your crown. We want a Congress, though.

To be a nerd and quote Heinlein:

"It is better to be a live jackal than a dead lion, but it is better still to be a live lion and usually easier."

So who gives a crap.

I'd rather not classify myself into either group, instead flow freely back and forth between the two, deriving enjoyment from whatever, whenever, whereever.

We need some preps on here so it won't be quite so one-sided.

It's unfortunate, but I go by normal standards. Nerds are lowest in social activities. Most nerds don't exactly spend their time doing the coolest of things according to the leaders of popular society.
Even if that were 100% true, why would that make nerds "the lowest"? Why does how cool and social you are determine your worth in this way? There's more to life; it's more complex and you can't place people in such ranks based on one or two factors.

Even if that were 100% true, why would that make nerds "the lowest"? Why does how cool and social you are determine your worth in this way? There's more to life; it's more complex and you can't place people in such ranks based on one or two factors.
Nerds aren't the lowest: it sounds better when you say lowest than when you say lowest above dorks, freaks, goths, etc. Poetic justice, people!!!

Be yourself, do whatever you want, be friends with whoever you want, like whatever you want. Follow your own conscience, for if it tells you something is wrong, it probably is. If anyone tells you that you must act/dress/talk/walk a certain way, steal their alcoholic delights and run. That's my creed. If one sticks to it, they will eventually find themselves enjoying far more friends and fun than if they were to confine yourself to just a tiny little social group. Life is too short to limit yourself in any silly way such as high school cliques.

Be yourself, do whatever you want, be friends with whoever you want, like whatever you want. Follow your own conscience, for if it tells you something is wrong, it probably is. If anyone tells you that you must act/dress/talk/walk a certain way, steal their alcoholic delights and run. That's my creed. If one sticks to it, they will eventually find themselves enjoying far more friends and fun than if they were to confine yourself to just a tiny little social group. Life is too short to limit yourself in any silly way such as high school cliques.
Yay!!!

Ruler of the Nerds, of course. Who is the ruler of the nerds here? Max Barry?

Ruler of the Nerds, of course. Who is the ruler of the nerds here? Max Barry?
I reckon so. Can't think of anyone else. We should elect an overall ruler just for the hell of it.

Ruler of nerds is better than being the lowest of the normal people but it's still nothing special. Being king of nerds is like being the lifeguard of an above ground pool.

Ruler of nerds is better than being the lowest of the normal people but it's still nothing special. Being king of nerds is like being the lifeguard of an above ground pool.
I dunno. As ruler I have to give counsel to my nerds and they advise me on unknown subjects. We host events at different places (mostly LaserQuest), and I'm the interrelater of these messages. When someone needs stalking done, I help out for a hefty price.

...according to the leaders of popular society.

But they wouldn't know, would they? Nerds are smarter than they are.

Nerds > Normals

But they wouldn't know, would they? Nerds are smarter than they are.

Nerds > Normals
Unfortunately at this stage in my life they are the leaders. Which sucks because they get elected to school offices for sheerly being pretty faces.:mad:

I am the world's smartest dumbass.

I am the world's smartest dumbass.
Here's your trophy. *gleam, gleam*

It's unfortunate, but I go by normal standards. Nerds are lowest in social activities. Most nerds don't exactly spend their time doing the coolest of things according to the leaders of popular society.

What are these 'normal' standards? What is 'normal'? Who defines "the coolest of activities"? It seems to me that the definition of a nerd is entirely subjective and dependent on what one deems to be 'cool' or 'uncool'.

What's with labelling people anyway? My girlfriend and I both read Manga and she RPs with her friends. According to some, that would make us nerds, to others that would be cool. To her and I, its 'normal', to the scumbags who stand on street corners drinking cheap cider and mugging war veterans collecting for the Poppy Appeal, what we do is weird and 'uncool'.

What are these 'normal' standards? What is 'normal'? Who defines "the coolest of activities"? It seems to me that the definition of a nerd is entirely subjective and dependent on what one deems to be 'cool' or 'uncool'.

What's with labelling people anyway? My girlfriend and I both read Manga and she RPs with her friends. According to some, that would make us nerds, to others that would be cool. To her and I, its 'normal', to the scumbags who stand on street corners drinking cheap cider and mugging war veterans collecting for the Poppy Appeal, what we do is weird and 'uncool'.
Normal is what's accepted by the vast majority. If nerds are the vast majority, then I'm going to find a nice cave to live in.

Unfortunately at this stage in my life they are the leaders. Which sucks because they get elected to school offices for sheerly being pretty faces.:mad:

Almost everything a school can do to you requires some level of complicity on your part.

Don't comply.

Normal is what's accepted by the vast majority. If nerds are the vast majority, then I'm going to find a nice cave to live in.

Would you like us to hook up that cave with DSL?

Would you like us to hook up that cave with DSL?
Yes, please. I'll bring my PS2.

Nerds aren't the lowest: it sounds better when you say lowest than when you say lowest above dorks, freaks, goths, etc. Poetic justice, people!!!
Heh, sorry - I must just be in an argumentative mood :p
I like questioning things....

Heh, sorry - I must just be in an argumentative mood :p
I like questioning things....
I understand; quite frankly I started this thread to sort of argue.

My friend and I often discuss which is better: to be the Ruler of the Nerds, or the lowest of the normal. Highest of the low, or lowest of the high. I want to see what NS thinks about this. Post why you think it's better.
I find that it's more useful being Ruler of the nerds because my nerds basically do my bidding and my dirty work when I don't feel like doing it.


Ruler of nerds... you rule, right? Plus, nerds get RICH later in life. Unless they become 35-year-olds who live with their moms without jobs that are on the Net all the time.

Ruler of nerds... you rule, right? Plus, nerds get RICH later in life. Unless they become 35-year-olds who live with their moms without jobs that are on the Net all the time.
The problem with ruling is your control never passes the nerds. One clique, two if you lump in geeks.