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Has anyone on this site had personal experience of a miracle?
Can/do miracles happen or is it impossible?

In my younger and more stupid days I was driving about forty miles per hour over the speed limit, drunk, and with an open bottle in my car. Cop pulled me over. Never even walked up to my window, just stood by my back bumper. He asked me if I knew I was driving 40 over the speed limit. I stammered "no officer, I didn't realize..." He told me to have a good night and got back into his car.

That miracle showed me that The Lord loves drunks.

Yes, I have had several life altering miracles happen to me.





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In my younger and more stupid days I was driving about forty miles per hour over the speed limit, drunk, and with an open bottle in my car. Cop pulled me over. Never even walked up to my window, just stood by my back bumper. He asked me if I knew I was driving 40 over the speed limit. I stammered "no officer, I didn't realize..." He told me to have a good night and got back into his car.

That miracle showed me that The Lord loves drunks.

Why else would he have Jesus turn water into wine?

In my younger and more stupid days I was driving about forty miles per hour over the speed limit, drunk, and with an open bottle in my car. Cop pulled me over. Never even walked up to my window, just stood by my back bumper. He asked me if I knew I was driving 40 over the speed limit. I stammered "no officer, I didn't realize..." He told me to have a good night and got back into his car.

That miracle showed me that The Lord loves drunks.
does that explain your name also.Did that really happen?cos thats kinda bad!

In my younger and more stupid days I was driving about forty miles per hour over the speed limit, drunk, and with an open bottle in my car. Cop pulled me over. Never even walked up to my window, just stood by my back bumper. He asked me if I knew I was driving 40 over the speed limit. I stammered "no officer, I didn't realize..." He told me to have a good night and got back into his car.

That miracle showed me that The Lord loves drunks.


I think the miracle was that you didn't wreck....After all you wouldn't want to spill that beer everywhere!

Why is it that I can only vote 'yes' if they have happened to me personally, otherwise I must content myself with 'possibly'?

Yes, I have had several life altering miracles happen to me.





Woooohooooo 3000...i feel uber special!

like what?

does that explain your name also.Did that really happen?cos thats kinda bad!
I've done alot of stupid things in my past.

Pffft! No, because God's busy doing his own thing. He's throwing parties up in heaven.

I have experienced many miracles in my life, but I guess it would depend on what you would consider a miracle whether or not they count.

I've done alot of stupid things in my past.
sorry if I sounded judgemental,we all do stupid things,its learning from being stupid that is important.

Has anyone on this site had personal experience of a miracle?
Can/do miracles happen or is it impossible?My best friend just had the cutest little daughter. I think that qualifies as a miracle. Nothing magic about that though.

Pffft! No, because God's busy doing his own thing. He's throwing parties up in heaven.
I read that as 'throwing panties up in heaven'.

And no, no miracles here.

like what?


Welln the greatest miracle is that I am somehow still alive today. I have been hit by three(3) cars, fell off of a cliff, been attacked by a deer(not funny one so bit), been electrocuted, I ran into a two-by-four once, with nails in it knocking me unconcious, i guess in a comatose state for 2 days. Yeah, I have had little injury compared to all i have faced. Minor scratches, bruises. I should be dead though!

I have experienced many miracles in my life, but I guess it would depend on what you would consider a miracle whether or not they count.
definition;
a miracle can be called so if the laws of natureare inexplicably violated,and the event has deep/religious significance.

Why is it that I can only vote 'yes' if they have happened to me personally, otherwise I must content myself with 'possibly'?
sorry, the first option can count as a yes without it having happened to you personaly.

I read that as 'throwing panties up in heaven'.
Maybe he does that too.

Welln the greatest miracle is that I am somehow still alive today. I have been hit by three(3) cars, fell off of a cliff, been attacked by a deer(not funny one so bit), been electrocuted, I ran into a two-by-four once, with nails in it knocking me unconcious, i guess in a comatose state for 2 days. Yeah, I have had little injury compared to all i have faced. Minor scratches, bruises. I should be dead though!
you are very clumsy,are you sure these are miracles and not just sheer luck?

I think the miracle was that you didn't wreck....After all you wouldn't want to spill that beer everywhere!
Hell No! It was a Samuel Smith's Winter Welcome Ale.

definition;
a miracle can be called so if the laws of natureare inexplicably violated,and the event has deep/religious significance.

If the laws of nature are ever "violated," it is due to our misunderstanding of said laws.

i was hit with a golf club by my eye and the doc said if it was less than 1mm down i would have lost my eye. i would still be alive but would have a sight problem now its that a miricle??? or just pure luck or even destiny?

If the laws of nature are ever "violated," it is due to our misunderstanding of said laws.
ah, you follow the path of John Hick and David hume, Hick says that miracles cant happen because there are not natural laws
and Hume says that natureal laws cant be broken.

Miracles happen!
My mom's cousin, Robin, was diagnosed with breast cancer a few years back. It was pretty bad. Anyways, she went to her church to pray about it. She felt a hand on her back and opened her eyes. A woman she had never seen said "I don't understand why, but God told me to lay my hand on your back and to give you my bracelet. He told me you'd be better... I don't know why, but I had to see what would happen." Robin, confused, watched the woman go. The next week, she went in to start chemotherapy. The doctor's were at a loss for words- the cancer, previously so bad, was completely gone! Robin knows God sent the woman to perform one of His miracles. The bracelet is her most prized posession. She has showed it to me; the design resembles people praising the Lord. :p

you are very clumsy,are you sure these are miracles and not just sheer luck?


No, I am clumsy,but these were miracles. How do i come out of being hit by cars, going 35+ mph, and not get more than a scratch? or fall from a cliff and not break a bone, let alone die. And that deer was rather pissed :p

would being forwarned of an accident that was going to happen to me the next day with a powerful vision be a miracle?

The next day I was careful and foiled the accidents plans.

Miracles happen!
My mom's cousin, Robin, was diagnosed with breast cancer a few years back. It was pretty bad. Anyways, she went to her church to pray about it. She felt a hand on her back and opened her eyes. A woman she had never seen said "I don't understand why, but God told me to lay my hand on your back and to give you my bracelet. He told me you'd be better... I don't know why, but I had to see what would happen." Robin, confused, watched the woman go. The next week, she went in to start chemotherapy. The doctor's were at a loss for words- the cancer, previously so bad, was completely gone! Robin knows God sent the woman to perform one of His miracles. The bracelet is her most prized posession. She has showed it to me; the design resembles people praising the Lord. :p

That is pritty cool, but can you prove it was from god?

I have one of divine wrath and assistance, however.

I had to take an extremely hard exam (for math) once, without studying or any preparation. It counted as 30% of my mark, and I was sitting on a 65. Ten minutes before I took the test, I said "Dear God, if I get perfect on this test I will not swear for a whole month."

A week later I found out that my test mark 100%, and that my mark was bumped from a 65 to a 76. I was pleased as hell.

However, I forgot about my promise, swore the next day when I tripped, and sadly my computer broke down on me.

That is pritty cool, but can you prove it was from god?It wasn't. If you really have to know, it was me. I like skrewing with people, that's all.

That is pritty cool, but can you prove it was from god?
Who else? I am a strong believer, so I know I'm biased. But cancer doesn't just get up and go; something happened. How else can you explain it than by using God as the source?:confused:

It wasn't. If you really have to know, it was me. I like skrewing with people, that's all.
Ha ha, very funny. But I'm serious, this isn't just made up.

I have one of divine wrath and assistance, however.

I had to take an extremely hard exam (for math) once, without studying or any preparation. It counted as 30% of my mark, and I was sitting on a 65. Ten minutes before I took the test, I said "Dear God, if I get perfect on this test I will not swear for a whole month."

A week later I found out that my test mark 100%, and that my mark was bumped from a 65 to a 76. I was pleased as hell.

However, I forgot about my promise, swore the next day when I tripped, and sadly my computer broke down on me.

once I laughed at the the shoddy job some neighbors did on their christmas lights, and as I did so, a section of my xmas lights went out. I then said to myself that it was lame to judge theirs and mine started working perfectly again.

just because you cant explain something doesnt give you the right to use god as the explaination

Another time, a friend of my family was walking through her yard. Her kid were in the pool, alone (probably not the best idea: she was 4 at the time). The woman swears she felt a hand on her shoulder, but when she turned noone was there. Instead, turning around made her concious that her daughter was drowning and she was able to save her. She truly believes that her daughter's guardian angel was responsible for notifying the mom of her daughter's danger.

just because you cant explain something doesnt give you the right to use god as the explaination
God, to me, is responsible for everything, explainable and unexplainable, in some way. Miraculous or not, I believe God does everything- and for a reason.

just because you cant explain something doesnt give you the right to use god as the explaination
How do you explain it then? Ideas must evolve. Look at the heliocentric theory. Before, Ptolemy believed the Earth as the center of the universe. Centuries later Copernicus was able to prove the Sun as the center of the solar system. Thus we have to start somewhere, so why not start at God?

God, to me, is responsible for everything, explainable and unexplainable, in some way. Miraculous or not, I believe God does everything- and for a reason.
I respect your belief- but Im afraid I just cant agree with you(sorry)What would it take for you to not believe in god ?

How do you explain it then? Ideas must evolve. Look at the heliocentric theory. Before, Ptolemy believed the Earth as the center of the universe. Centuries later Copernicus was able to prove the Sun as the center of the solar system. Thus we have to start somewhere, so why not start at God?
Thankyou. I completely agree. When in doubt, start with God. He will not let you down.

Thankyou. I completely agree. When in doubt, start with God. He will not let you down.
Actually, I'm agnostic, but oh well. I started out Mormon.

I respect your belief- but Im afraid I just cant agree with you(sorry)What would it take for you to not believe in god ?
Absolutely nothing can shake my faith, I hope. I'm not perfect, but I believe as hard as I can and I don't think there are alot of things that can get rid of that.

Actually, I'm agnostic, but oh well. I started out Mormon.
It doesn't matter what you are; I was simply stating that I agreed with your statement. But could you explain your faith to me? I'm interested in theology and have never heard of agnostic before.

Absolutely nothing can shake my faith, I hope. I'm not perfect, but I believe as hard as I can and I don't think there are alot of things that can get rid of that.
fair play, when I was still a catholic I just couldnt retain my faith due to lots of factors.Its good(in a way) that your faith is not strong.
on a purley hypothetical note what would you do(when you die) if you found out that god didn exist-for example would you still be glad you followed a religion?

It doesn't matter what you are; I was simply stating that I agreed with your statement. But could you explain your faith to me? I'm interested in theology and have never heard of agnostic before.
an agnostic is a person is undecided as to whether god (s) exists unlike the athiest who believes god doesnt exist or the theist who believes he does

It doesn't matter what you are; I was simply stating that I agreed with your statement. But could you explain your faith to me? I'm interested in theology and have never heard of agnostic before.
Agnostic-of a belief in no supernatural beings
atheists can believe in Satan.

once I laughed at the the shoddy job some neighbors did on their christmas lights, and as I did so, a section of my xmas lights went out. I then said to myself that it was lame to judge theirs and mine started working perfectly again.

Wow, a bit creepy, but cool at the same time.

fair play, when I was still a catholic I just couldnt retain my faith due to lots of factors.Its good(in a way) that your faith is not strong.
on a purley hypothetical note what would you do(when you die) if you found out that god didn exist-for example would you still be glad you followed a religion?
Yeah, definitely. The way I see it, it's win-win. If God exists, I get to live in His glory forever because I worshiped Him. If He doesn't (which I find unlikely), at least I lived my life happily; believed that there was sometone out there who loved me deeply and watched over me. I love my life because I believe that God is part of it; if I found out that He isn't, I still loved my life, right? I see no downside to my belief.

Yeah, definitely. The way I see it, it's win-win. If God exists, I get to live in His glory forever because I worshiped Him. If He doesn't (which I find unlikely), at least I lived my life happily; believed that there was sometone out there who loved me deeply and watched over me. I love my life because I believe that God is part of it; if I found out that He isn't, I still loved my life, right? I see no downside to my belief.

unless there is a God, but when you die you find out that you followed the wrong Religion and you get sent to hell.

Yeah, definitely. The way I see it, it's win-win. If God exists, I get to live in His glory forever because I worshiped Him. If He doesn't (which I find unlikely), at least I lived my life happily; believed that there was sometone out there who loved me deeply and watched over me. I love my life because I believe that God is part of it; if I found out that He isn't, I still loved my life, right? I see no downside to my belief.
pascals wager in your own personal way!
with all its plusses and drawbacks
what would you do if you found out you worshipped the wrong god and went to the 'real' gods version of hell?

unless there is a God, but when you die you find out that you followed the wrong Religion and you get sent to hell.
And still, my life was happy through my eyes. You have not found a loophole yet.

pascals wager in your own personal way!
with all its plusses and drawbacks
what would you do if you found out you worshipped the wrong god and went to the 'real' gods version of hell?
same- happy life.

pascals wager in your own personal way!
with all its plusses and drawbacks
what would you do if you found out you worshipped the wrong god and went to the 'real' gods version of hell?

beat you to it! :p



a happy average of 80 years would pale in comparison to an eternity in hell wouldnt it?

Personally I believe in God because I feel that I experienced God and that is the only reaosn I believe - I was an agnostic leaning toward atheism until then. BUT I don't follow any religion nor do I believe in hell.

Has anyone on this site had personal experience of a miracle?
Can/do miracles happen or is it impossible?
You mean like intercessory prayer? (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-2112892,00.html)

Yes, as a matter of fact, a miracle did happen to me once. I was on a public transit bus, and the guy sitting next to me hauled out a Koran and started screaming, "Allahu Ackbar!" at the top of his lungs. Apparently his backpack was full of explosives, or something. Fortunately, God came down from heaven, grabbed the woman in the seat behind us, stripped off her burka, and strangled the terrorist with it. He then gave me explosive diarrhea, His idea of a joke. But it's not all bad, because whenever I tell someone I have ED they give me free condoms.

Huh? probably 80% of this site is atheist, but the majority so far (20 out of 29) believe that miracles happen or are open to the possibility?

You mean like intercessory prayer? (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-2112892,00.html)

Yes, as a matter of fact, a miracle did happen to me once. I was on a public transit bus, and the guy sitting next to me hauled out a Koran and started screaming, "Allahu Ackbar!" at the top of his lungs. Apparently his backpack was full of explosives, or something. Fortunately, God came down from heaven, grabbed the woman in the seat behind us, stripped off her burka, and strangled the terrorist with it. He then gave me explosive diarrhea, His idea of a joke. But it's not all bad, because whenever I tell someone I have ED they give me free condoms.

Hooray!

I've never witnessed a miracle sober.

That said, it depends on what scale you define an event as a miracle or non-miracle. Like many people, I have little luck outbursts which seem too connected or improbable to be coincidences, like fast-food outlets accidentally undercharging you or giving you extra stuff, or finding money on street, stuff like that. Are those mini-miracles? Who knows.

definition;
a miracle can be called so if the laws of natureare inexplicably violated,and the event has deep/religious significance.
I guess that means that miracles can seem to have happened.

Huh? probably 80% of this site is atheist, but the majority so far (20 out of 29) believe that miracles happen or are open to the possibility?
People who like miracles are drawn to threads about them.

Miracles can and do happen.

Why is it that I can only vote 'yes' if they have happened to me personally, otherwise I must content myself with 'possibly'?


Yea I was like huh? when I saw that too. So I had to go with possibly, even though I would have picked yes normally.

Agnostic-of a belief in no supernatural beings
atheists can believe in Satan.

This is a joke right?

Agnostic-of a belief in no supernatural beings
atheists can believe in Satan.

wouldn't the only people who believe in Satan be Christians?

Welln the greatest miracle is that I am somehow still alive today. I have been hit by three(3) cars, fell off of a cliff, been attacked by a deer(not funny one so bit), been electrocuted, I ran into a two-by-four once, with nails in it knocking me unconcious, i guess in a comatose state for 2 days. Yeah, I have had little injury compared to all i have faced. Minor scratches, bruises. I should be dead though!

do you like testing your body to the limits?jk, my uncle ran into a deer and they both fell down, got up and ran away from each other it was friggin hilarious!

My miracle...I didn't drop that knife on my toe.

What creates a miracle is a deep sense of appreciation. Some people have to have a semi stop half an inch from their head before it's a miracle and others simply have to wake up in the morning.

I would like to be in the latter group.

wouldn't the only people who believe in Satan be Christians?

where do Satanists fall under then?

where do Satanists fall under then?
They fall under logic?

They fall under logic?

I was just saying there are more groups of people that believe in Satan than just Christians

Do you believe in miracles? Yes. Though havent had personal experience with one.

I was just saying there are more groups of people that believe in Satan than just Christians
Specifically Satan or a supernatural being in charge of the underworld and your soul?

what?

what?
Well, Hades and Satan are in the same league, correct? And Brahmin controls where your soul goes in the next life. Thinking of others...:headbang:
Can't think of anymore at the mo', but you get the point.

Still, many of them believe in Satan right?

no, I mean why are you telling me that? I was just proving to someone else that Christians aren't the only ones who might believe in Satan. I'm not saying specifically what all of them believe in.
I like documented evidence. Examples.
I'm hungry!!! It's not me, I swear!!!

ok , but you forgot that many religious polls are not the reflection of the truth. Many people say that they belong to a certain religious denomination and then never go to church in their life or actually belive it, this makes it hard to find evidence on the subject manner. All I can come up with at the moment is life experiences.

ok , but you forgot that many religious polls are not the reflection of the truth. Many people say that they belong to a certain religious denomination and then never go to church in their life or actually belive it, this makes it hard to find evidence on the subject manner. All I can come up with at the moment is life experiences.
I was like that for a while. It's kind of weird to be a fourth grade agnostic in my area. Heck, my own mother doesn't know my religious status.

hold old are you now? (because your grammar sentace was conflicting)

hold old are you now?
15

ok, I was just making sure that you weren't still in fourth grade

ok, I was just making sure that you weren't still in fourth grade
That would be slightly creepy...no, I just completely lost faith when I was in fourth grade.

that would be creepy...so have you been searching for "the truth" since then

that would be creepy...so have you been searching for "the truth" since then
Yes, in everything I can get my hands on.

I have several friends just like that

We're seriously off topic...and the only people on this thread.

I've done alot of stupid things in my past.
in your past?
You sure just in that frame of reference?

Of course I'm one to talk about doing dumb things in cars.
I've walked away for two potentially fatal accidents with nothing worse than a scratch barely comparable to cutting oneself shaving.
Cars were totalled. Esp the one that went under the bus.

I was also pulled over once for doing 150+ (km, so ~90 mph). That's loss of licence and a very hefty fine level in NZ.
So there I was thinking I'd just screwed my life totally. I was living 30km out of town at the time - no public transport, and only working p/t. I was looking at having to sell my car to pay for the fine, and a few other things, and move.
Cop gets out of the car, and lo-and-behold, it's a mate from the outrigger club. We'd competed together in the NZ champs 7 months back. He had just graduated from Police college the week prior (it takes 6 months) and this was his first day on the job.
After we chatted for a while, he asked me if I knew how fast I was going. Not seeing any point in lying I said yes. He then said he would have to give me a fine, thought for a few seconds then asked me if I was going to speed in the future.
I told him I'd give very careful consideration from now on.
With that he let me go.

We're seriously off topic...and the only people on this thread.

sorry, I just get easily distracted with conversation

Only at three-thirty A.M. on opposing Tuesdays, provided that a Mr. Smith who makes his dwelling in a Tibetean Monestary has eaten fish the previous Wednsday.

One thing you need to know about miracles; don't ask for one. I recall asking God for a sign and having that sign shoved down my throat :confused:

wouldn't the only people who believe in Satan be Christians?

The Church of Satan
(I think it was established in 1961 or so but They worship Satan because Christiananity is the most popular religion in the world and since most devil characters from most religions are similar, they label them all with the name Satan. The religion is really wierd imo. I think most of them are just teens trying to be the oposite of thier parents.

One thing you need to know about miracles; don't ask for one. I recall asking God for a sign and having that sign shoved down my throat :confused:

do you think that was really an in your face from god, or are you just venting about a bad experience and thought you'd associate it with God because you are angry with him?

miracles = comforting to think about but not going to happen.