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Will Rowling Kill Harry Potter

Not bad
27-06-2006, 20:27
She says she might in book seven.

Should she kill him off?
The Alma Mater
27-06-2006, 20:28
Yes. And Voldemort should live to rule all of creation.
Maybe with Hermione as his empress ;)
Drunk commies deleted
27-06-2006, 20:28
Rowling will burn in hell for leading the world's children to witchcraft and satanism through her wicked books. Harry Potter should die and burn for eternity.
I V Stalin
27-06-2006, 20:29
Rowling will burn in hell for leading the world's children to witchcraft and satanism through her wicked books.
Is that from a reputable source, or just Jesussaves?
Darknovae
27-06-2006, 20:30
She says she might in book seven.

Should she kill him off?

No, I think she said she wouldn't. Voldy definitely will. So will Snape.:sniper: And Bellatrix, and Umbridge. Bwah ha ha.

But Ron and hermione will totally hook up. :D
Fleckenstein
27-06-2006, 20:30
Rowling will burn in hell for leading the world's children to witchcraft and satanism through her wicked books. Harry Potter should die and burn for eternity.

Not to mention the mockery of government departments!

Harrumph!
Kinda Sensible people
27-06-2006, 20:31
Well remember, if she does, some fanboy somewhere is going to claim that Harry is not dead (no matter how much evidence he is presented with), so even if she does he won't be dead in the minds of the masses. :rolleyes:

People did that with Dumbledore after all.

In short: Yes, the basis of the books is death* and sacrifice, so I wouldn't be suprised if the lesson of book 7 came in Harry's death.

*Watch yesterday's interview if you don't beleive me.
Drunk commies deleted
27-06-2006, 20:31
Is that from a reputable source, or just Jesussaves?
What? Since when is Jesussaves not a reputable source?
Pledgeria
27-06-2006, 20:31
She says she might in book seven.

Should she kill him off?

She might, she might not. Just remember that one of her tasks is to build the suspense to maximize book sales.

That being said... I hope she doesn't kill him off, but in the end he's just a fictional character. I'd be as sad as when DD died, but I'll get over it.
Outcast Jesuits
27-06-2006, 20:31
Rowling will burn in hell for leading the world's children to witchcraft and satanism through her wicked books. Harry Potter should die and burn for eternity.
You know what? IT'S FICTION!!!! SHUT UP AND LIVE WITH IT!!! DON'T COME ON THIS THREAD IF YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM WITH IT!!!
The Black Forrest
27-06-2006, 20:31
Harry will have an Arthurian end.

Rowlings is a very private person. The best way to have your privacy and to make sure nobody tries a sequel is to kill off the hero.
I V Stalin
27-06-2006, 20:32
What? Since when is Jesussaves not a reputable source?
Very true... *nods sagely*
New Lofeta
27-06-2006, 20:32
Maybe with Hermione as his empress ;)

Or the the Princess Leia bikinni.

I think she originally intended to kill him off, but can't now, because of how big it's become. Hagrid will go instead.
Drunk commies deleted
27-06-2006, 20:32
You know what? IT'S FICTION!!!! SHUT UP AND LIVE WITH IT!!! DON'T COME ON THIS THREAD IF YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM WITH IT!!!
I'M ENTITLED TO VOICE MY OPINION AS LONG AS I DON'T VIOLATE FORUM RULES. DEAL WITH IT.

And may The Lord God Jesus Christ bless and forgive you.
I V Stalin
27-06-2006, 20:32
Harry will have an Arthurian end.

Rowlings is a very private person. The best way to have your privacy and to make sure nobody tries a sequel is to kill off the hero.
All well and good, but when it's a series about magic it's not difficult to bring the hero back from the dead.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
27-06-2006, 20:33
Nooooo, I will not look at this thread.

In fact, I won't even post in it except to say that I won't look at it.

And I would be typing this blind, except I suck at that. Bah. :(
Kecibukia
27-06-2006, 20:34
You know what? IT'S FICTION!!!! SHUT UP AND LIVE WITH IT!!! DON'T COME ON THIS THREAD IF YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM WITH IT!!!

He's being sarcastic. Remove the Caps Lock.
New Lofeta
27-06-2006, 20:34
You know what? IT'S FICTION!!!! SHUT UP AND LIVE WITH IT!!! DON'T COME ON THIS THREAD IF YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM WITH IT!!!

He *may* have been joking.
Penguin Dictators
27-06-2006, 20:34
Rowling will burn in hell for leading the world's children to witchcraft and satanism through her wicked books. Harry Potter should die and burn for eternity.

and you'll burn forever in your own arrogance and ignorance. Witchcraft and Satanism aren't even close to being one and the same, so you should hold your tongue there.

Witchcraft, aka, Wicca, is a very structured and peaceful "religion," There are no practices of actual "spells," but more along the lines of self "empowering (aka confidence boosters)" techniques. There are no pointy hats and cloaks, or evil chants and whatnot. That is all a LIE brought by Hollywood.

As for Satanism and Witchcraft being one, that is also a lie, brought both by Hollywood, and the Christians of the old world, so that they wouldn't have another religion that they thought would "Threaten" theirs.

Anyways, off of that note...

I don't want Rowling to kill Harry. It would be an interesting plot twist to see Voldemort win, but I guess I'm more of a sucker for the predictable endings where he would die, and everything would be good again.
Outcast Jesuits
27-06-2006, 20:35
Harry will have an Arthurian end.

Rowlings is a very private person. The best way to have your privacy and to make sure nobody tries a sequel is to kill off the hero.
The poor woman is probably bombarded with people daily. I can't blame her.
Outcast Jesuits
27-06-2006, 20:35
He's being sarcastic. Remove the Caps Lock.
but I like the Caps Lock...:(
Drunk commies deleted
27-06-2006, 20:36
and you'll burn forever in your own arrogance and ignorance. Witchcraft and Satanism aren't even close to being one and the same, so you should hold your tongue there.

Witchcraft, aka, Wicca, is a very structured and peaceful "religion," There are no practices of actual "spells," but more along the lines of self "empowering (aka confidence boosters)" techniques. There are no pointy hats and cloaks, or evil chants and whatnot. That is all a LIE brought by Hollywood.

As for Satanism and Witchcraft being one, that is also a lie, brought both by Hollywood, and the Christians of the old world, so that they wouldn't have another religion that they thought would "Threaten" theirs.

Anyways, off of that note...

I don't want Rowling to kill Harry. It would be an interesting plot twist to see Voldemort win, but I guess I'm more of a sucker for the predictable endings where he would die, and everything would be good again.
Jesus can give you all the confidence you need and you don't have to sell your soul to get it, but I don't want to hijack the thread.
Kecibukia
27-06-2006, 20:37
Harry and Ron must die so Hermoine can become my love slave.

*Goes of to write FanFic*
Penguin Dictators
27-06-2006, 20:38
Jesus can give you all the confidence you need and you don't have to sell your soul to get it, but I don't want to hijack the thread.

I don't care what Jesus could give, I could care less about Christianity, or any other mass religion for that matter. I'm happy with my life without religion, and without all the bull crap that comes with it.
New Zero Seven
27-06-2006, 20:38
Harry Potter will eat a magic mushroom and then turn into a happy goat and live the rest of his life married to Princess Gwendolyne of the Netherealm. He will eventually transform into IceGoat, a superpowered creature with the ability to turn things into fire. His end of life mission is to fight the Evil Eye in hopes of getting the Stanley Cup, the chalace of peace that created the world. But then a swarm of fire ants come and eat him alive, so he doesn't save the world. Bummer.
Terrorist Cakes
27-06-2006, 20:38
I don't care, as long as Ron and Hermione end up together.
Kecibukia
27-06-2006, 20:39
Harry Potter will eat a magic mushroom and then turn into a happy goat and live the rest of his life married to Princess Gwendolyne of the Netherealm. He will eventually transform into IceGoat, a superpowered creature with the ability to turn things into fire. His end of life mission is to fight the Evil Eye in hopes of getting the Stanley Cup, the chalace of peace that created the world. But then a swarm of fire ants come and eat him alive, so he doesn't save the world. Bummer.

I don't think the mushrooms are being eaten by Harry.
Minoriteeburg
27-06-2006, 20:40
Harry Potter will eat a magic mushroom and then turn into a happy goat and live the rest of his life married to Princess Gwendolyne of the Netherealm. He will eventually transform into IceGoat, a superpowered creature with the ability to turn things into fire. His end of life mission is to fight the Evil Eye in hopes of getting the Stanley Cup, the chalace of peace that created the world. But then a swarm of fire ants come and eat him alive, so he doesn't save the world. Bummer.


that plot sounds better than the books and movies
New Lofeta
27-06-2006, 20:41
I don't think the mushrooms are being eaten by Harry.

I think the Magic Mushrooms will eat Harry actually.
Drunk commies deleted
27-06-2006, 20:42
I don't care what Jesus could give, I could care less about Christianity, or any other mass religion for that matter. I'm happy with my life without religion, and without all the bull crap that comes with it.
Ok, let's just drop the whole discussion. We're hijacking this thread.

Your friend in Christ, Drunk Commies
Alstitua
27-06-2006, 20:43
All well and good, but when it's a series about magic it's not difficult to bring the hero back from the dead.
Except it mentions in the books (twice) that that's impossible. Anyways, I agree that she probably was going to originally, but then it became so popular so she's not sure anymore. Of course, I want her to kill the SOB just to annoy those Potter worshippers. Just so I have an excuse to shout "HE'S F**KING DEAD, YOU MOTHERF**KING B**TCH, NOW WHO THE F**K WILL YOU F**KING WORSHIP?" (before she actually reads the book, of course).

And on that note, can anyone think of a logical reason why HP is so popular. Sure, I read it, but it's really nothing compared to lots of other series.
The Aeson
27-06-2006, 20:44
Well, first off, I would like to announce that I came into this thread with a spiked club and flamethrower to deal with fanboys and fangirls.

Second, if Harry dies, he better do something useful and take Voldemort with him.

Third, I don't imagine he will, but it could be. Oh, whoever predicted that Ron and Hermoine are going to hook up, you're a bit behind.

Fourth or fifth, I'd say that Draco is probably screwed. Snape will probably survive. Voldemort's fate may as well be written in stone. Look for someone close to Harry to die here. Smart money's on either Ron or Granger, looking at how the deaths have been building, (Cedric, Sirius, Dumbledore)
I V Stalin
27-06-2006, 20:45
Except it mentions in the books (twice) that that's impossible. Anyways, I agree that she probably was going to originally, but then it became so popular so she's not sure anymore. Of course, I want her to kill the SOB just to annoy those Potter worshippers. Just so I have an excuse to shout "HE'S F**KING DEAD, YOU MOTHERF**KING B**TCH, NOW WHO THE F**K WILL YOU F**KING WORSHIP?" (before she actually reads the book, of course).

And on that note, can anyone think of a logical reason why HP is so popular. Sure, I read it, but it's really nothing compared to lots of other series.
Eh, ok. I've not read more than three quarters of the first book before giving up because I thought it was crap. So sod knows why it's so popular.
United O-Zone
27-06-2006, 20:45
Yes. And Voldemort should live to rule all of creation.
Maybe with Hermione as his empress ;)

Or maybe with Harry as his empress
Terrorist Cakes
27-06-2006, 20:46
Or maybe with Harry as his empress

If harry crossdresses, I'm so there.
United O-Zone
27-06-2006, 20:47
Meheheheheh
The Alma Mater
27-06-2006, 20:47
Jesus can give you all the confidence you need and you don't have to sell your soul to get it, but I don't want to hijack the thread.

Butbut.. Voldemort IS Jesus. Just look at the evidence: he was resurrected, one can become one with him through the reading of his Book, given to people by the Archangel Malfoy to save their souls...
Terrorist Cakes
27-06-2006, 20:48
Well, first off, I would like to announce that I came into this thread with a spiked club and flamethrower to deal with fanboys and fangirls.

Second, if Harry dies, he better do something useful and take Voldemort with him.

Third, I don't imagine he will, but it could be. Oh, whoever predicted that Ron and Hermoine are going to hook up, you're a bit behind.

Fourth or fifth, I'd say that Draco is probably screwed. Snape will probably survive. Voldemort's fate may as well be written in stone. Look for someone close to Harry to die here. Smart money's on either Ron or Granger, looking at how the deaths have been building, (Cedric, Sirius, Dumbledore)

What do you mean I'm behind? They almost hooked up, but it didn't actually happen.
United O-Zone
27-06-2006, 20:48
Butbut.. Voldemort IS Jesus. Just look at the evidence: he was resurrected, one can become one with him through the reading of his Book, given to people by the Archangel Malfoy to save their souls...

mwahahahahahahaHAHAHAAAHAHAHHA! ur so fucking hilariuos
Greater Alemannia
27-06-2006, 20:48
If harry crossdresses, I'm so there.

I can picture Radcliff declining to do that last movie... or not... :eek:
The Alma Mater
27-06-2006, 20:49
mwahahahahahahaHAHAHAAAHAHAHHA! ur so fucking hilariuos

Actually that isn't mine. It is an actual conspiracy theory which some people genuinely believe.
British Stereotypes
27-06-2006, 20:50
Eh, ok. I've not read more than three quarters of the first book before giving up because I thought it was crap. So sod knows why it's so popular.
I found the first one to be slow to get into, I didn't really enjoy it. The rest are good though.

I mean...I don't read harry potter, those are kids books. :rolleyes:
Philosopy
27-06-2006, 20:50
Rowling will burn in hell for leading the world's children to witchcraft and satanism through her wicked books. Harry Potter should die and burn for eternity.
Brother Inebriated and Expired Communist makes a good point. Rowling has inflicted an evil upon this world, and deserves to be punished in the afterlife.

The Lord will smile on all who burn this book of Satan.
Deutschland III
27-06-2006, 20:51
Butbut.. Voldemort IS Jesus. Just look at the evidence: he was resurrected, one can become one with him through the reading of his Book, given to people by the Archangel Malfoy to save their souls...

Uhhh, wtf is up with that retarded post???? Anyways...

Hasn't she already finished writing the seventh book? I heard she finished it and is waiting to publish it or whatever. So if she is, then it has already happened, there's not too much we can b*tch about now...
Drunk commies deleted
27-06-2006, 20:52
If harry crossdresses, I'm so there.
See? I told you those books lead to immorality.
Greater Alemannia
27-06-2006, 20:52
Besides, we all know that Harry Potter's a pervert:

http://************/p2nwv
Kinda Sensible people
27-06-2006, 20:53
Uhhh, wtf is up with that retarded post???? Anyways...

Hasn't she already finished writing the seventh book? I heard she finished it and is waiting to publish it or whatever. So if she is, then it has already happened, there's not too much we can b*tch about now...

She started writing in January. She says it's gonna be long (but not as long as five, she hopes). I doubt she's done yet.
Ladamesansmerci
27-06-2006, 20:53
Well, first off, I would like to announce that I came into this thread with a spiked club and flamethrower to deal with fanboys and fangirls.
But but but...I WUV HARRY! He's the bestest friend a girl can have. He's so special, and magical, and dreamy...
The Alma Mater
27-06-2006, 20:53
Uhhh, wtf is up with that retarded post????

It is not any more retarded than saying the books are evil and destroying souls. But lets be honest: there are quite a few Christian elements in the story. Evil being associated with snakes for instance.
Penguin Dictators
27-06-2006, 20:54
She started writing in January. She says it's gonna be long (but not as long as five, she hopes). I doubt she's done yet.

I think she announced some time after the 6th book was released, that she we wouldn't see the 7th one for about two years.

That reminds me, the next Harry Potter movie doesn't come out until July of 2007.
Kinda Sensible people
27-06-2006, 20:55
I think she announced some time after the 6th book was released, that she we wouldn't see the 7th one for about two years.

That reminds me, the next Harry Potter movie doesn't come out until July of 2007.

I know that Mugglenet is predicting the book for Summer of '07 or Summer of '08, for marketing purposes. Summer '07 is my hope, but '08 may be a better bet.
The Nazz
27-06-2006, 20:55
Rowling definitely hinted at it when she said that the most effective way to keep someone from doing a sequel once you've stopped writing is to kill the character off (though that doesn't preclude "The Tales of Ron and Hermione" or something similar, like Card did, disastrously in my opinion, with the novel about Bean). But that could have been one big swerve as well.

From a writer's point of view, I can see wanting to kill him off because by this point, Rowling's got to be tired of writing about him. And it's going to be damn near impossible for her to do an encore now because everything she writes will be compared---probably unfavorably--with the Potter series.
The Black Forrest
27-06-2006, 20:59
Besides, we all know that Harry Potter's a pervert:

http://************/p2nwv

You know Harry doesn't exist right?

Daniel Radcliffe appears to be acting just like any boy ever created.
Darknovae
27-06-2006, 20:59
Besides, we all know that Harry Potter's a pervert:

http://************/p2nwv

:eek: AAAAAAAAAHHHH!!! THE DELUSIONAL HARRY/HERMIONE SHIPPERS WERE RIGHT AFTER ALL! AAAAAAAAAHHH!!!!! RUN AWAY RUN AWAY! RUN FOR YOUR LLLLIIIIVVVEEEESSS!!!!!

But poor Ron! He's going to be so disappointed that Hermione went for Harry! :( But that's okay, he can always come to me :D
Penguin Dictators
27-06-2006, 21:00
Well, first off, I would like to announce that I came into this thread with a spiked club and flamethrower to deal with fanboys and fangirls.

Second, if Harry dies, he better do something useful and take Voldemort with him.

Third, I don't imagine he will, but it could be. Oh, whoever predicted that Ron and Hermoine are going to hook up, you're a bit behind.

Fourth or fifth, I'd say that Draco is probably screwed. Snape will probably survive. Voldemort's fate may as well be written in stone. Look for someone close to Harry to die here. Smart money's on either Ron or Granger, looking at how the deaths have been building, (Cedric, Sirius, Dumbledore)

But what about one of the Dursleys? Sure, it's somewhat unlikely it seems, but they're someone from his family. Look at it this way, they killed someone who Harry was friends with, then someone who was close to his parents, then someone who they practically entrusted his life to.

As far as I see it, next in line is an actual family member, so why not one of the Dursleys? Harry might not like them, but they are his family, and that'd definately set off a fuse.
I V Stalin
27-06-2006, 21:00
But but but...I WUV HARRY! He's the bestest friend a girl can have. He's so special, and magical, and dreamy...
Sorry to be the one to break this to you...but Harry's gay.
Greater Alemannia
27-06-2006, 21:00
You know Harry doesn't exist right?

Daniel Radcliffe appears to be acting just like any boy ever created.

YOU'RE DESTROYING THE FUNNAY! Why do you have to destroy the funn-ay? :(
Heikoku
27-06-2006, 21:00
Harry could make himself female, they do have Life at about 4 here (thinking Mage: The Ascension).

DCD, you're joking... right? Right? PLEASE don't make me think you a moron...
Drunk commies deleted
27-06-2006, 21:00
You know Harry doesn't exist right?

Daniel Radcliffe appears to be acting just like any boy ever created.
Don't he look all pale and waxy? Kinda creepy looking. Maybe Rowling already did kill him and brought him back to life as a horny zombie for publicity purposes.
Heikoku
27-06-2006, 21:01
Sorry to be the one to break this to you...but Harry's gay.

They have Mind 3 or 4, so that could be "solved"...
Drunk commies deleted
27-06-2006, 21:01
Harry could make himself female, they do have Life at about 4 here (thinking Mage: The Ascension).

DCD, you're joking... right? Right? PLEASE don't make me think you a moron...
Yeah, I'm joking, but you still have my permission to think me a moron.
Rhursbourg
27-06-2006, 21:02
he wont die he will end up as some tacky transvestite Cabreret singer on the northern workingman's club scene
Heikoku
27-06-2006, 21:03
As far as I see it, next in line is an actual family member, so why not one of the Dursleys? Harry might not like them, but they are his family, and that'd definately set off a fuse.

Yes. A "Hey, Vold, you're not so bad after all!" fuse on fans, and, maybe, on the character, if J.K. develops more of an irony sense. :p
Andaluciae
27-06-2006, 21:03
Nope, he'll have him immigrate to America and become a Republican.
The Black Forrest
27-06-2006, 21:05
he wont die he will end up as some tacky transvestite Cabreret singer on the northern workingman's club scene

Harry Potter is Liza Minnelli? :eek:
Heikoku
27-06-2006, 21:05
Yeah, I'm joking, but you still have my permission to think me a moron.

I might, but not because of THAT. =-)
Sumamba Buwhan
27-06-2006, 21:09
What the hell is a Harry Potter? Is that like a ONe-Armed Bandit or a Bald Blacksmith? Can't we all just get along and stop making fun of people :(


btw DCD is the funny
Taldaan
27-06-2006, 21:09
As long as it involves Hermione getting nekkid in the last movie, its all good.

;)


Although what I would also like to see would be a slight darkening of the end. Harry has a chance to destroy Voldemort once and for all, but to do it he has to either kill Ron and Hermione (or Ginny, if the apparent romance blooms a little), or condemn them to eternal torment, for example an unremovable Cruciatus curse or something. On the same sadistic note, I want Draco Malfoy dead.
The Lone Alliance
27-06-2006, 21:09
What? Since when is Jesussaves not a reputable source?
Since it was made.


I think she might, I believe that Harry is the final key to how the Volt guy survives, and only Harry dying will end it. Hopefully in a huge magic explosion that equals a Nuclear weapon in strength. BABOOM!
Ieuano
27-06-2006, 21:11
Harry Potter will steal the world cup, than hide it in a bush for a certain dog to find
Poliwanacraca
27-06-2006, 21:18
And on that note, can anyone think of a logical reason why HP is so popular. Sure, I read it, but it's really nothing compared to lots of other series.

how can u insult harry potter jk rowling is a genuis and u r just jellous cuz ur too stupid to apreciate great literature when u see it harry potter is greater than shakespear or any of that stupid crap u idiot

Now, let's see how many people don't notice this white text here, and think I'm serious. Tee hee.
Terrorist Cakes
27-06-2006, 21:23
Except it mentions in the books (twice) that that's impossible. Anyways, I agree that she probably was going to originally, but then it became so popular so she's not sure anymore. Of course, I want her to kill the SOB just to annoy those Potter worshippers. Just so I have an excuse to shout "HE'S F**KING DEAD, YOU MOTHERF**KING B**TCH, NOW WHO THE F**K WILL YOU F**KING WORSHIP?" (before she actually reads the book, of course).

And on that note, can anyone think of a logical reason why HP is so popular. Sure, I read it, but it's really nothing compared to lots of other series.

Okay, the writing is pretty subpar, but most people don't know that. The popularity of HP stems from Rowling's ability to create an interesting, multi-faceted world that appeals to the young people of today. The novels present no profound themes, and are riddled with grammatical imperfections, but they're an escape for people. Many people dream about being magical, having tons of supportive friends, and feeling heroic. Harry Potter helps these people feel hope for their dreams, and escape from the bleakness of mortal life.
Ladamesansmerci
27-06-2006, 21:37
Sorry to be the one to break this to you...but Harry's gay.
No, no, you're lying. He told me himself that he loved him. How dare you lie about him!
Poliwanacraca
27-06-2006, 21:48
Rowling definitely hinted at it when she said that the most effective way to keep someone from doing a sequel once you've stopped writing is to kill the character off (though that doesn't preclude "The Tales of Ron and Hermione" or something similar, like Card did, disastrously in my opinion, with the novel about Bean). But that could have been one big swerve as well.

I'm entirely in agreement about Card's Bean 'n' Petra novels. I liked both characters very much in Ender's Game, but by the second or third or fourth sequel of them angsting and schmooping at each other, I just sort of wanted to smack them both. Bleh.
Not bad
27-06-2006, 21:50
No, no, you're lying. He told me himself that he loved him. How dare you lie about him!

I heard a teletubby was gay too, Harry Potter must be gay as well.
Dosuun
27-06-2006, 21:56
"And then Harry Potter and all of his friends went straight to hell for practicing witchcraft."

But seriously I lost interest in these books after the second. If she'll kill him off then good. Make as many kids as you can cry. Someone should write a book about the easter bunny dying over and over in the most violent ways possible and then call it a childrens book. "That's the easter bunny and that's a meat grinder and that's the easter bunny getting tossed into the the meat grinder."
Katganistan
27-06-2006, 21:57
She says she might in book seven.

One word: MARKETING.

She's pulled this crap already in "The Order of the Phoenix" with the "one of the major characters DIES! and I CRIED when I wrote it!" nonsense. That was the book in which she jerked everyone around with is it Mr. Weasely? Is it McGonigle? Is it Dumbledore? Is it Ron, Hermione, Neville.....

When she finally "killed" Sirius I couldn't muster enough emotional energy to give a shit.

Apparently, this falls under the same category. "Ohhhh, let's tell the fans I might kill Harry so everyone will be frothing at the mouth to buy the book!"


Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the series, but I thought Phoenix was the worst based on the way she played with our emotions not only through her writing but by dropping these hints outside the books. It's cheap.
Katganistan
27-06-2006, 22:04
Actually, I think Malfoy will be redeemed in the end. It's utterly obvious and unoriginal.
Not bad
27-06-2006, 22:08
One word: MARKETING.



Three words

darned effective marketing.

The seventh book should be the last Harry Potter book and likely Rowlings last hurrah as an author. Farm wisdom has it that you gotta make hay while the sun's shining.
AB Again
27-06-2006, 22:08
They are fictional characters in a series of childrens books people. Don't take it so seriously. No one is going to be killed, or die. Just some words will be written, published and read.

As to it being marketing - yes it is. That is one thing that Rowling does very well.
Penguin Dictators
27-06-2006, 22:10
Rowling definitely hinted at it when she said that the most effective way to keep someone from doing a sequel once you've stopped writing is to kill the character off (though that doesn't preclude "The Tales of Ron and Hermione" or something similar, like Card did, disastrously in my opinion, with the novel about Bean). But that could have been one big swerve as well.

From a writer's point of view, I can see wanting to kill him off because by this point, Rowling's got to be tired of writing about him. And it's going to be damn near impossible for her to do an encore now because everything she writes will be compared---probably unfavorably--with the Potter series.

One difference. Card did it with his own books. He didn't take a character from someone else's book and make a parallel novel out of it. He took Bean, a character from his story Ender's Game, and made a book to describe the challenge Ender had to face, a kid that could be his equal, hence Ender's Shadow. So there was actually some point to the parallel novel and sequals.

However, the fear we're talking about is someone ELSE taking Rowling's characters and making books about them. I can actually understand why she'd want to kill either his best friends off, or all of them, to prevent that from happening.

Bad ending to the series, but it works for preventing future spinoffs/ parallel novels/character sequals.
The Black Forrest
27-06-2006, 22:11
They are fictional characters in a series of childrens books people. Don't take it so seriously. No one is going to be killed, or die. Just some words will be written, published and read.

As to it being marketing - yes it is. That is one thing that Rowling does very well.

How do we know you are not a fictional character?
Penguin Dictators
28-06-2006, 16:26
we're all fictional, didn't you know that? We're all apart of the imagination of some 40 year old writer who's still at home living with his parents. ;)
Bottle
28-06-2006, 16:27
She says she might in book seven.

Should she kill him off?
Lord I hope so. Harry Potter is just about the least sympathetic character I've ever encountered. Stupid, selfish, and stereotypical...the tripple suck.
Ilie
28-06-2006, 16:29
I heard about that on the radio. I guess if she wants to stop writing the series, killing Harry off would be a good idea. UNLESS maybe the idea is he'd come back to life because of...magic?
Cegerth
28-06-2006, 16:37
His death would be a...satisfying end to the series.
Penguin Dictators
28-06-2006, 17:11
I heard about that on the radio. I guess if she wants to stop writing the series, killing Harry off would be a good idea. UNLESS maybe the idea is he'd come back to life because of...magic?

Can't. She already made it clear in her other books that you can't revive the dead. I don't think she'd go against her other writings.

Besides, that'd leave it open to people to continue off of that.
Ilie
28-06-2006, 17:15
Can't. She already made it clear in her other books that you can't revive the dead. I don't think she'd go against her other writings.

Besides, that'd leave it open to people to continue off of that.

Well then! Either this is the end, or it's not Harry that's going. I'm not sure why she keeps killing off these main characters anyway.

...might I add that I don't read the books? At all? Yeah.
BogMarsh
28-06-2006, 17:16
DIE, Harry, DIE!

Only Ron and Hermy will survive... :p
Wilgrove
28-06-2006, 17:18
I wonder if Harry and Hermione are old enough to star in their own erotica novel.

Anyways, I shall write the book on the Easter Bunny getting killed over and over! I shall call it "Happy Easter!"
Hispanionla
28-06-2006, 17:34
Bah, everybody knows dumbledore had a horcrux and made one for harry just in case.

EDIT: Anyone else notice how harry always gets off other people's steam?

Capitalism! :eek:
Teh_pantless_hero
28-06-2006, 17:45
Bah, everybody knows dumbledore had a horcrux and made one for harry just in case.

EDIT: Anyone else notice how harry always gets off other people's steam?

Capitalism! :eek:
Harry gets off because he is independently wealthy and is paying people off.
Penguin Dictators
28-06-2006, 17:45
DIE, Harry, DIE!

Only Ron and Hermy will survive... :p

well since you called her Hermy, it's most certain that Gwawp (sp?) will come out of nowhere looking for her, step on her and Ron, and kill her.

*Gwawp comes running*
"WHERE HERMIE?!?"

*looks down to see the figure of Ron and Hermie on his foot*

"I KILL HERMIE!!!!"
Teh_pantless_hero
28-06-2006, 17:49
Ginnie Weasley dies then Ron goes berserk and gets killed and Harry will be like NOOOOOO and get into a to-the-death battle with Voldermont and they will kill each other.

Then it will be revealed the whole thing was being told by Hermione Granger in retrospect who was really JK Rowling who then fakes her own death because the magical world didn't want the final story published and her books sell like mad and she becomes uber secretive richer.
Penguin Dictators
28-06-2006, 17:58
surpisingly Hero, I can actually see that happening XD
Alexia1991
28-06-2006, 18:11
err well.. i think that both harry and voldemort will die. this is because harry is a horcrux so in order to kill voldemort he needs to kill himself. that would also explain why voldemort cannot kill harry (beacuse it would be killing himself). BUT would she really do this? if she does then there is no possible sequal (even tho she sed she would only make 7) also it ends very suddenly. we need to know more!! i need to see and read this book!!
Teh_pantless_hero
28-06-2006, 18:18
ORRR, Harry could wake up and it was all a dream and on the very last page Rowling writes "Got'cha bitches!"
Friggin DOOM
28-06-2006, 18:30
Harry---> :p :sniper: <---Voldemort

Harry = DEAD
Voldemort= SUPREME OVERLORD OF DEATH
New Zero Seven
28-06-2006, 18:31
Harry will cast a spell that mistakenly kills himself.
Penguin Dictators
28-06-2006, 18:32
err well.. i think that both harry and voldemort will die. this is because harry is a horcrux so in order to kill voldemort he needs to kill himself. that would also explain why voldemort cannot kill harry (beacuse it would be killing himself). BUT would she really do this? if she does then there is no possible sequal (even tho she sed she would only make 7) also it ends very suddenly. we need to know more!! i need to see and read this book!!

wait, where did it mention that Harry was a Horcrux? So far I remember there were 7:

The Locket
The Diary
An Ravenclaw Object
A Hufflepuff Object

and of course 3 more which I can't for the life of me remember, but I remember they were all objects, I don't remember Harry being mentioned as one.
The Alma Mater
28-06-2006, 18:34
and of course 3 more which I can't for the life of me remember, but I remember they were all objects, I don't remember Harry being mentioned as one.

Voldemorts snake pet almost certainly is a horcrux too. They can be alive.
Angry Fruit Salad
28-06-2006, 18:39
So, tell me if I've gotten the gist of this thread so far -- Drunk Commies Deleted is fucking with someone's head while pretending to be an uberChristianNaziTroll, and everyone thinks Harry will die, even though Rowling has stated in an interview that from Book 1 she knew she was never going to kill of Harry.
The Alma Mater
28-06-2006, 18:42
So, tell me if I've gotten the gist of this thread so far -- Drunk Commies Deleted is fucking with someone's head while pretending to be an uberChristianNaziTroll, and everyone thinks Harry will die, even though Rowling has stated in an interview that from Book 1 she knew she was never going to kill of Harry.

No, everyone is *hoping* she will kill off Harry. Slight difference ;)
Penguin Dictators
28-06-2006, 18:43
Voldemorts snake pet almost certainly is a horcrux too. They can be alive.

That's right, the Snake was the fifth. It mentions 2 more which I can't remember though.
Rextron
28-06-2006, 18:46
nah she wouldnt kill potter:headbang: but shes only doin 1 more book
Teh_pantless_hero
28-06-2006, 18:47
That's right, the Snake was the fifth. It mentions 2 more which I can't remember though.
The blatantly obvious answer is the Godric Gryffindor's Sword and some Slytherin object.
Klitvilia
28-06-2006, 18:50
That's right, the Snake was the fifth. It mentions 2 more which I can't remember though.



The Gaunt necklace is the 6th, but it was destroyed. It was the Slytherin object.


Oh, and it's not the sword, because that is defended in Dumbledores office and before him by the Sorting hat
Tynelia
28-06-2006, 18:51
<places tongue in cheek>

1) Harry and Ron both die, but of course with his dying breath Harry kills "He who shall not be named" Hermione is crushed but then finds the sympatheic hand of a redeemed Draco Malfoy who completes the turn to the light begun when he refuses to kill Dumbledor.

Malfoy admits that the real reason why he kept calling her Mudblood and all that other stuff when they were wee ones was because he really did like her but his father would be ticked off if he found out, so he insulted her instead as a sign of his youngling affection. Hermione confesses that the reason she was so hurt by his insults was because she too had a secret crush on him as well. The two then go off living happily ever after accidently stumbling over the forgotton Ron and Harry corpses in their way.

The End.

<tongue still in cheek>
2) Hermione and Harry hook up the night before the final battle and after Harry's killed she finds out she's carrying Harry's child. This of course sets up the new series Harry Potter: The Next Generation.

The End....for now.

<more serious theory>
3) Snape reveals the whole "Kill Dumbledor" deal was part of a clever plan the two of them hatched to trick Voldemort into welcoming Snape back to the inner circle. Hermione is killed before the final battle depriving Harry of "she who figures everything out" to continue the tradition of removing Harry's guardians and protectors (Cedric killed trying to defend Harry, Sirius was his guardian and Dumbledor the main shield against Voldemort). Then just as Voldemort monlogues over a beaten Harry, Snape turns on Voldemort gets killed in the fight allowing Harry the time to find what he needs to defeat Voldemort and save the day .

The End

<somewhere in between>
4) Voldemort hits Harry where it hurts and kills Ginny. This provokes Harry to fight before he is ready. Harry does the "dying breath kill Voldemort" thing and dies leaving Ron and Hermione to mourn their losses. Or alternately Harry fails/dies but Ron kills Voldemort seeing how Ron's been the comedic sidekick for so long it'd be nice to make him the hero.

personal listing of most likely to least likely to die
1)Hermione
2)Harry
3)Snape
4)Ginny
5)Ron

don't really see anyone else likely to be on the hitlist
Penguin Dictators
28-06-2006, 18:54
The blatantly obvious answer is the Godric Gryffindor's Sword and some Slytherin object.

It can't be the sword.

If you remember Dumbledore's words in the 2nd book, the sword would only appear to a true Gryffindor. And you know Dumbledore's magic isn't going to fail for someone that isn't it, even for someone like Voldemort.
Teh_pantless_hero
28-06-2006, 18:55
The Gaunt necklace is the 6th, but it was destroyed. It was the Slytherin object.


Oh, and it's not the sword, because that is defended in Dumbledores office and before him by the Sorting hat
Dumbledore is gone and the sword has been pulled from it's Japanese anime hiding spot inside the hat.
Penguin Dictators
28-06-2006, 18:56
read my post Pantless. It explains it a bit more, and no, Dumbledore's magic didn't die with him.
Metision
28-06-2006, 19:03
Maybe Harry and Voldemort will kill eachother at the same time.
Teh_pantless_hero
28-06-2006, 19:04
read my post Pantless. It explains it a bit more, and no, Dumbledore's magic didn't die with him.
What does your post have to do with anything? It is all currently speculation.
Penguin Dictators
28-06-2006, 19:07
What does your post have to do with anything? It is all currently speculation.

How so? As I mentioned, Dumbledore STATES it at the end of the 2nd book that the sword CAN ONLY appear to a true Gryffindor. And since Voldemort isn't one, the sword won't appear for him, so he can't very likely put a horcrux on a sword that won't appear for him.
Teh_pantless_hero
28-06-2006, 19:11
How so? As I mentioned, Dumbledore STATES it at the end of the 2nd book that the sword CAN ONLY appear to a true Gryffindor. And since Voldemort isn't one, the sword won't appear for him, so he can't very likely put a horcrux on a sword that won't appear for him.
You know Rowling, that doesn't prevent it from having appeared before and then that enchantment being put on it.
Penguin Dictators
28-06-2006, 19:16
You know Rowling, that doesn't prevent it from having appeared before and then that enchantment being put on it.

Ok, so where would it have appeared before? If it only appears for a true Gryffindor, where would it have appeared with Voldemort right there with it?

Couldn't have been the Tom and Harry battle, since Harry had it most of the time, and when he put it down, he killed Tom before anything could happen.
Teh_pantless_hero
28-06-2006, 19:22
Ok, so where would it have appeared before? If it only appears for a true Gryffindor, where would it have appeared with Voldemort right there with it?

Couldn't have been the Tom and Harry battle, since Harry had it most of the time, and when he put it down, he killed Tom before anything could happen.
Yes, its not like Rowling has ever had anything occur in the Harry Potter-verse before the enrollment of Harry Potter in the school. :rolleyes;
Penguin Dictators
28-06-2006, 19:24
still, if someone else tried to grab the sword, wouldn't you expect it to dissapear? Otherwise that would defeat the purpose of it only appearing for a true gryffindor.
The Aeson
28-06-2006, 19:24
Yes, its not like Rowling has ever had anything occur in the Harry Potter-verse before the enrollment of Harry Potter in the school. :rolleyes;

Well, as far as I could tell, the Sword had been in the hat before Harry arrived, too. The only time I can think of just off the bat where someone might have needed to pull the sword before that would be the first time the Basilisk was on the loose, and there was no battle that time, so that's out...
Teh_pantless_hero
28-06-2006, 19:24
still, if someone else tried to grab the sword, wouldn't you expect it to dissapear? Otherwise that would defeat the purpose of it only appearing for a true gryffindor.
You obviously ignored what I said like 5 posts ago.
Penguin Dictators
28-06-2006, 19:29
Dumbledore is gone and the sword has been pulled from it's Japanese anime hiding spot inside the hat.

This? What exactly is this proving?
Teh_pantless_hero
28-06-2006, 19:29
This? What exactly is this proving?
No, try again.
Penguin Dictators
28-06-2006, 19:31
Well, as far as I could tell, the Sword had been in the hat before Harry arrived, too. The only time I can think of just off the bat where someone might have needed to pull the sword before that would be the first time the Basilisk was on the loose, and there was no battle that time, so that's out...

I think that pretty much covers that argument.
Teh_pantless_hero
28-06-2006, 19:35
You people don't read enough Harry Potter. You can always expect Rowling to take a story element and invent a past event in order to rework that story element to however she wants so she can use it for something crazy.

There is no guarantee that the sword was never found by Tom Riddle then enchanted so be hidden until a true griffindor found it again so that Voldermont could never use it.
Penguin Dictators
28-06-2006, 19:39
Dumbledore already knew about the dangers of Riddle, as you could slowly tell by the 6th book. He would have already known that it what would happen if he found the sword.

Besides, it already said that Tom Riddle didn't even know about the process until after he already left Hogwarts I believe. So even if he found it, he still knew nothing about Horcruxes to be able to put an enchantment on it.
DrunkenDove
28-06-2006, 19:58
Lord I hope so. Harry Potter is just about the least sympathetic character I've ever encountered. Stupid, selfish, and stereotypical...the tripple suck.

Indeed. I was cheering for the V guy all the way.
Avarhierrim
29-06-2006, 05:09
guys, the necklace hasn't been destroyed and the last horoux is in Voldemorts body
Penguin Dictators
29-06-2006, 05:12
The necklace has been destroyed if I remember right.

The Locket however isn't.
Avarhierrim
30-06-2006, 01:57
The necklace has been destroyed if I remember right.

The Locket however isn't.

you mean the opals? sorry the locket I meant not the opal necklace
Bottle
30-06-2006, 01:58
Indeed. I was cheering for the V guy all the way.
He's kind of a spaz, too, but at least he's evil. All other things being equal, I'll root for the villain every time.
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 05:46
you mean the opals? sorry the locket I meant not the opal necklace

yeah. The Opal Necklace was the horcrux destroyed in Book 6 when Harry and Dumbledore were at that one place.

The locket of course hasn't, because there's a mystery that we're supposed to guess, because of the initials on it, and it being a symbol of the Black family.
Swilatia
30-06-2006, 05:51
Rowling will burn in hell for leading the world's children to witchcraft and satanism through her wicked books. Harry Potter should die and burn for eternity.
no she will not.

But a hate the harry potterbokks too. not because of this satanism nonsense, bt because they just simply suck arse.