Who would be in your war cabinet/high command?
Greater Alemannia
27-06-2006, 14:15
Right, so if you were trying to take over the world, and you could have ANY 10 people helping you achieve your goals, who would you pick?
I'd say:
Clausewitz
Sun Tzu
Zhuge Liang
Rommel
Napoleon Bonaparte
Julius Caesar
Alexander the Great
Bismarck
Cao Cao
Frederick the Great
</blatant ripoff of the dinner topic>
The Aeson
27-06-2006, 14:18
Right, so if you were trying to take over the world, and you could have ANY 10 people helping you achieve your goals, who would you pick?
I'd say:
Clausewitz
Sun Tzu
Zhuge Liang
Rommel
Napoleon Bonaparte
Julius Caesar
Alexander the Great
Bismarck
Cao Cao
Frederick the Great
</blatant ripoff of the dinner topic>
Now, the trouble is, even if we overcome the language barrier between almost all of these people, the fact that they were all leaders in their own time would probably lead them to chafe over your command. And I really wouldn't want a bunch of irate tactical geniuses running my war machine.
Neu Leonstein
27-06-2006, 14:18
Take out Bismarck, put in Manstein.
Greater Alemannia
27-06-2006, 14:19
Now, the trouble is, even if we overcome the language barrier between almost all of these people, the fact that they were all leaders in their own time would probably lead them to chafe over your command. And I really wouldn't want a bunch of irate tactical geniuses running my war machine.
We're pretending that they can all speak English.
New Burmesia
27-06-2006, 14:19
Take out Bismarck, put in Manstein.
Nah, you want Bismarck to negociate peace, and to start wars in your favour.
Greater Alemannia
27-06-2006, 14:20
Take out Bismarck, put in Manstein.
Yeah, but I need Bismarck for diplomacy. Not all war, you know.
Evil Satanic OzMonkeys
27-06-2006, 14:21
Benito Moussilini
Adolf Hitler
James Blunt
Colin Powell
Regis Philbin
Michael the Archangel
Satan
God
Tom Delay
Donald Rumsfield
Green israel
27-06-2006, 14:21
We're pretending that they can all speak English.
and that they aren't egomaniacs who mostly had no clue about modern weaponary and tactics?
Psychotic Mongooses
27-06-2006, 14:22
Tom Barry.
Neu Leonstein
27-06-2006, 14:24
Yeah, but I need Bismarck for diplomacy. Not all war, you know.
But a high command doesn't do diplomacy. A war cabinet does maybe.
Either way, you have to have Manstein in there. He'll run circles around most of those guys.
Greater Alemannia
27-06-2006, 14:27
and that they aren't egomaniacs who mostly had no clue about modern weaponary and tactics?
Yes, that too.
Actually, many of those on my list were subservient to state and ruler. Bismarck, Zhuge Liang, Rommel, for example.
And modern weaponry and tactics aren't THAT different. Tanks are just cavalry made of metal >_>
Galloism
27-06-2006, 14:29
Benito Moussilini
Adolf Hitler
James Blunt
Colin Powell
Regis Philbin
Michael the Archangel
Satan
God
Tom Delay
Donald Rumsfield
God gets invited to do a lot of things...
Greater Alemannia
27-06-2006, 14:29
But a high command doesn't do diplomacy. A war cabinet does maybe.
Either way, you have to have Manstein in there. He'll run circles around most of those guys.
I'm flipping up Manstein and Rommel. MAYBE take out Caesar, since I've got Alexander.
New Burmesia
27-06-2006, 14:30
Benito Moussilini
Adolf Hitler
Two people who lost? Noce idea...
James Blunt
Just NO!
Colin Powell
Bit useless.
Regis Philbin
What do you wanna do? Put POWs in the TV business?
Regis Philbin
Michael the Archangel
Satan
God
I can see one of the two crossing the floor. Probably God, since Powell and deLay are in the cabinet :P
Tom Delay
Put him in the enemies' cabinet, and watch their treasury run dry...:p
Donald Rumsfield
Already taken by Bush!
Neu Leonstein
27-06-2006, 14:30
I'm flipping up Manstein and Rommel.
No contest. Rommel was decent on the ground, leading his guys from the front - he's got no place in an office pointing at a map.
Psychotic Mongooses
27-06-2006, 14:32
Ohhh, I'd have Subedei Ba'taeur too.
I like the small mobile, guerrila hit-and-run type leaders. :D
Greater Alemannia
27-06-2006, 14:33
No contest. Rommel was decent on the ground, leading his guys from the front - he's got no place in an office pointing at a map.
Perhaps you're right. Although Rommel's quite good, so it's a pity.
BogMarsh
27-06-2006, 14:37
Right, so if you were trying to take over the world, and you could have ANY 10 people helping you achieve your goals, who would you pick?
I'd say:
Clausewitz
Sun Tzu
Zhuge Liang
Rommel
Napoleon Bonaparte
Julius Caesar
Alexander the Great
Bismarck
Cao Cao
Frederick the Great
</blatant ripoff of the dinner topic>
Bumpkin Liang is mine, along with Aguinalo Magsaysay and Zhukov.
Face it - yer effed before the fight starts.
Fleckenstein
27-06-2006, 14:41
hmm. no one mentioned von Moltke (sp?). i guess he's mein then!
ahaha. good one. :rolleyes:
pretty much any german strategist, and neville chaimberlain. we can use him as bait! :D
Greater Alemannia
27-06-2006, 14:42
Bumpkin Liang is mine, along with Aguinalo Magsaysay and Zhukov.
I don't hold Russian commanders in high regard. It doesn't take much to just throw millions of troops at the enemy and wait for them to break through.
Iztatepopotla
27-06-2006, 14:45
Charlie's Angels
Starsky & Hutch
Shaft
TJ Hooker
Bruce Lee
The Six Million Dollar Man
Pele
Dr Bruce Banner
Red Tide2
27-06-2006, 14:46
Hmmm... I would take the following:
General Heinz Guderian: Inventor of Blitzkrieg and the one who led the drive through the Ardennes(the first one). I would make him the overall manager.
General George Patton: To run my offenses.
General Omar Bradley: For the moral boost among the men.
Admiral Yamamoto: Takes care of the Naval area.
General Curtis LeMay: Runs the (Conventional) Airforce, I wouldnt trust the man with my nukes though.
Ho Chi Minh: If I run into guerillas/insurgents/partisans, he'll take care of them since he was one during WW2 and the French-Indonesian War.
Albert Speer: Yes, I know he was a Nazi, but he also was an ingenious manager of resources and technology... which is exactly where I would stick him.
Red Tide2
27-06-2006, 14:50
I don't hold Russian commanders in high regard. It doesn't take much to just throw millions of troops at the enemy and wait for them to break through.
This guy had some potential: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Tukhachevsky
Pity Stalin had him shot.
The Infinite Dunes
27-06-2006, 14:53
You're all too militarily focused, and by the looks of my poorly informed mind, too tactically focused as well. I thought high commands were supposed to do with strategy, not tactics.
Since I'm bad with names I'll just give the general formation I would have in my high command.
Espionage expert - need someone to run a spy service to project our secrets and find out the enemies secrets
Propaganda expert - need someone to make the masses hate the enemy and make the enemy's populace doubt their leaders. Helps keep morale of army up.
Technology expert - Someone to stimulate technological advance and advise on the best way to utilise new break throughs.
Diplomacy expert - Someone to help us acquire allies
Logistics expert - Makes sure the the army and country are well supplied. Works in tandem with the Economics expert. Advises on the health of the citizens and of the army. Comments of feasbility of strategies.
Economics expert - Advises on what the economy can and cannot support and makes predictions about how to best protect our economy and to best destroy the enemies economy.
Military strategy expert - general guy to advise on military strategy and what the military machine needs and wants. Superior of other strategists. Comments on army morale.
Naval strategist - specialist strategist
Air strategist - specialist strategist
Land strategist - specialist strategist
BogMarsh
27-06-2006, 14:55
I don't hold Russian commanders in high regard. It doesn't take much to just throw millions of troops at the enemy and wait for them to break through.
Possibly. Meanwhile, Zhuge Bumpkin is my kinsman - not yours!
Greater Alemannia
27-06-2006, 14:59
Possibly. Meanwhile, Zhuge Bumpkin is my kinsman - not yours!
Not likely. I read RotTK and played all the Dynasty Warriors games. :p
BogMarsh
27-06-2006, 15:04
Not likely. I read RotTK and played all the Dynasty Warriors games. :p
Have you read San Kuo?
Greater Alemannia
27-06-2006, 15:07
Have you read San Kuo?
Isn't that just... RotTK?
BogMarsh
27-06-2006, 15:08
Isn't that just... RotTK?
Did you read it in Chinese?
Greater Alemannia
27-06-2006, 15:11
Did you read it in Chinese?
God no.
BogMarsh
27-06-2006, 15:29
God no.
:D
As I said.. Zhuge Bumkpin is MY Kinsman - not yours...
KooleKoggle
27-06-2006, 15:43
Two people who lost? Noce idea...
Well for Hitler, I'm guessing he's talking about the early Hitler that was a military genius. After that, his doctor was giving him speed, making his decisions careless and rash.
Ouranberg
27-06-2006, 16:00
Hitler was never a military genious, in fact, as a soldier, he had no clue whatsoever. He had frickin' geniouses as generals, Manstein, Rommel, Guderian, Dönitz, even Göring wasn't that bad as a pilot. Anyways, the only thing, Hitler was good at was talking to huge crowds and making them believe what he wants to. So if he has to get any job, give him propaganda, along with Goebbels.
But make sure, that they don't write your political agenda, or you maybe shot for genocide.