NationStates Jolt Archive


Freedom or Security

Pledgeria
27-06-2006, 09:07
People these days seem more willing than ever to trade in their freedom for security. I'm curious what people would say if given an explicit choice.
Anglachel and Anguirel
27-06-2006, 09:30
Please, make me a slave to Big Brother, but don't let the scary A-rab turrists get me! Will you check under my bed for turrists, George?
Linthiopia
27-06-2006, 09:46
Please, make me a slave to Big Brother, but don't let the scary A-rab turrists get me! Will you check under my bed for turrists, George?

Well said. I might change my opinion on different matter, but when it comes to the "A-rab turrists", I'll just take my freedom, please.
Ferrum Testudo
27-06-2006, 09:53
Actually, even though I voted for freedom, I'd take a cream-puff over either one.
Lunatic Goofballs
27-06-2006, 09:55
History shows that more people have been killed by their governments in power than by foreign governments.

What else needs to be said?

Oh, I know: I like pie. :)
Pledgeria
27-06-2006, 09:56
Actually, even though I voted for freedom, I'd take a cream-puff over either one.

:cool: And I'd take a cig over all 3.
Swilatia
27-06-2006, 09:57
I say freedom comes first.

Really, all this security nonsesense is unnecasary, our security stuff today is useless. all it does is take away pur freedom.
Ferrum Testudo
27-06-2006, 10:12
:cool: And I'd take a cig over all 3.

Ooohh.. even better.
Bokkiwokki
27-06-2006, 10:28
Freedom vs. security? Or (the idea of) freedom vs. the paranoid view that restricting or recording people's movements, using metal detectors to "ensure" safety, making xenophobia a government policy, having people being terrified of unattended luggage, and so and and so forth, leads to security?
Jwp-serbu
27-06-2006, 10:29
History shows that more people have been killed by their governments in power than by foreign governments.

What else needs to be said?

Oh, I know: I like pie. :)

+100
Pledgeria
27-06-2006, 10:59
Freedom vs. security? Or (the idea of) freedom vs. the paranoid view that restricting or recording people's movements, using metal detectors to "ensure" safety, making xenophobia a government policy, having people being terrified of unattended luggage, and so and and so forth, leads to security?

Either way, more of that stuff == less freedom.
Turquoise Days
27-06-2006, 11:00
Give me freedom, any day.
Hamilay
27-06-2006, 11:06
Security for me. I am teh special. Voted so under the premise that this was actual security and not the (for the most part) fearmongering and ridiculous policies of Dubya and company. I prefer to give up some liberties for safety. Liberties are when you can't enjoy them being dead.
Hobovillia
27-06-2006, 11:11
"One who scarafices freedom for security, niether deserves, nor gets either"

the gist of someones quote of a quote...
Krakatao0
27-06-2006, 11:13
If you have freedom you can get security. Without freedom, what is security?
Dreamy Creatures
27-06-2006, 11:14
I would like for my freedom protected. If that can't be protected, then what use would any other security be? A security for a life that makes you suicidal? And on another note, I prefer chocolate above pie (no, and no chocolate pie please!)
Turquoise Days
27-06-2006, 11:31
"One who scarafices freedom for security, niether deserves, nor gets either"

the gist of someones quote of a quote...
Wasn't it Jefferson?
Cape Isles
27-06-2006, 11:40
I think I'd prefer security because how can we judge freedom?
Psychotic Mongooses
27-06-2006, 12:47
Annoying, I must have been the only person that was thinking of a Hobbesian world when voting.

Hence me voting for for Security.

Free to do what? Be killed? Oooohh.
Greyenivol Colony
27-06-2006, 16:47
"It is better to die on your feet than live on your knees..."

Paraphraseth the Greyenivol Colony.
New Burmesia
27-06-2006, 17:10
Wasn't it Jefferson?

Franklin. But i'm a Brit, so don't quote me on the Founding Fathers...
Formidability
27-06-2006, 17:17
Total Freedom equals total chaos. There needs to be some security but not too much.